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    Posted: May. 20, 2020 - 6:24 PM ET #101

    CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March.

    "It is an unlikely source of transmission."

    Well I'll be...an_popcorn

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    CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March.

    "It is an unlikely source of transmission."

    Well I'll be...an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: May. 20, 2020 - 6:46 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March. "It is an unlikely source of transmission." Well I'll be...
    surprised Im shocked. Im at a lost for words right now liean_worship

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March. "It is an unlikely source of transmission." Well I'll be...
    surprised Im shocked. Im at a lost for words right now liean_worship

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March. "It is an unlikely source of transmission." Well I'll be...

    The CDC and the WHO both sent mixed messages about wearing a mask too. They both originally said that they don't recommend healthy people wear one. And that's always been the standard health recommendation. The fact that they both were told to reverse that normally issued guideline, is just one of the many clues that point to the scam-plandemic's agenda.

    I have many articles that state (before the alleged covid19) wearing a face mask is dangerous to your immune system and your health. If anyone is interested in what was the normal before the "new normal" became gospil?

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March. "It is an unlikely source of transmission." Well I'll be...

    The CDC and the WHO both sent mixed messages about wearing a mask too. They both originally said that they don't recommend healthy people wear one. And that's always been the standard health recommendation. The fact that they both were told to reverse that normally issued guideline, is just one of the many clues that point to the scam-plandemic's agenda.

    I have many articles that state (before the alleged covid19) wearing a face mask is dangerous to your immune system and your health. If anyone is interested in what was the normal before the "new normal" became gospil?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3: CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March. "It is an unlikely source of transmission." Well I'll be... The CDC and the WHO both sent mixed messages about wearing a mask too. They both originally said that they don't recommend healthy people wear one. And that's always been the standard health recommendation. The fact that they both were told to reverse that normally issued guideline, is just one of the many clues that point to the scam-plandemic's agenda. I have many articles that state (before the alleged covid19) wearing a face mask is dangerous to your immune system and your health. If anyone is interested in what was the normal before the "new normal" became gospil?

    They said from the beginning that they didn't want healthy people wearing masks because they didn't wanted surplus available to those most in need. Namely frontline health care workers. If your case is so strong, why must you twist somerhings and omit others entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3: CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March. "It is an unlikely source of transmission." Well I'll be... The CDC and the WHO both sent mixed messages about wearing a mask too. They both originally said that they don't recommend healthy people wear one. And that's always been the standard health recommendation. The fact that they both were told to reverse that normally issued guideline, is just one of the many clues that point to the scam-plandemic's agenda. I have many articles that state (before the alleged covid19) wearing a face mask is dangerous to your immune system and your health. If anyone is interested in what was the normal before the "new normal" became gospil?

    They said from the beginning that they didn't want healthy people wearing masks because they didn't wanted surplus available to those most in need. Namely frontline health care workers. If your case is so strong, why must you twist somerhings and omit others entirely.

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2020 - 4:28 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3: CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March. "It is an unlikely source of transmission." Well I'll be... The CDC and the WHO both sent mixed messages about wearing a mask too. They both originally said that they don't recommend healthy people wear one. And that's always been the standard health recommendation. The fact that they both were told to reverse that normally issued guideline, is just one of the many clues that point to the scam-plandemic's agenda. I have many articles that state (before the alleged covid19) wearing a face mask is dangerous to your immune system and your health. If anyone is interested in what was the normal before the "new normal" became gospil?

    It is another example of how they bungled this whole thing.  Wearing a mask does not help that much.  The cloth masks have been shown to increase respiratory illnesses, etc. 

    Sure you want to have masks for the medical folks. But, at first, they were saying not to wear a mask,  Mainly, because they did not think it was that serious of a virus.  Then, they did not want to panic people — so, they said a mask was not necessary.  

    Then they realized they had panicked the folks and they were making a run on masks.  So, they then had to really discourage the use of masks because folks were depleting the supply.  So, they said they weren’t really effective, folks didn’t know how to use them, they can increase infections, that they give you a false sense of security, and that the medical folks needed them.  

    Now they say you have to wear one.  You have to wear one all the time around folks.  At work, at the store, anywhere you might get infected — even though masks are really more effective if worn mainly by the sick folks.  

    Very poor all the way around.  As have been most things with this scamdemic. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3: CDC now admits that Covid-19 virus does not live on outside surfaces for up to 3 days as first reported in March. "It is an unlikely source of transmission." Well I'll be... The CDC and the WHO both sent mixed messages about wearing a mask too. They both originally said that they don't recommend healthy people wear one. And that's always been the standard health recommendation. The fact that they both were told to reverse that normally issued guideline, is just one of the many clues that point to the scam-plandemic's agenda. I have many articles that state (before the alleged covid19) wearing a face mask is dangerous to your immune system and your health. If anyone is interested in what was the normal before the "new normal" became gospil?

    It is another example of how they bungled this whole thing.  Wearing a mask does not help that much.  The cloth masks have been shown to increase respiratory illnesses, etc. 

    Sure you want to have masks for the medical folks. But, at first, they were saying not to wear a mask,  Mainly, because they did not think it was that serious of a virus.  Then, they did not want to panic people — so, they said a mask was not necessary.  

    Then they realized they had panicked the folks and they were making a run on masks.  So, they then had to really discourage the use of masks because folks were depleting the supply.  So, they said they weren’t really effective, folks didn’t know how to use them, they can increase infections, that they give you a false sense of security, and that the medical folks needed them.  

    Now they say you have to wear one.  You have to wear one all the time around folks.  At work, at the store, anywhere you might get infected — even though masks are really more effective if worn mainly by the sick folks.  

    Very poor all the way around.  As have been most things with this scamdemic. 

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2020 - 4:30 AM ET #106

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-cdc-says-americans-dont-have-to-wear-facemasks-because-of-coronavirus-2020-01-30

     

    Most people don’t know how to use face masks correctly, and a rush to buy masks could prevent the people who need them most — health care providers — from getting them

     

    In fact the U.S. surgeon general recently urged the public to “STOP BUYING MASKS!” “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!,” wrote Surgeon General Jerome Adams

     

    “The virus is not spreading in the general community,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the Center for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in a Jan. 30 briefing. “We don’t routinely recommend the use of face masks by the public to prevent respiratory illness. And we certainly are not recommending that at this time for this new virus.”

     

    Adalja applauded the CDC’s recommendation on face masks. “Even during H1N1 [flu epidemic], there was no recommendation to wear face masks,” he said. They “end up creating a false sense of security and most people don’t wear them appropriately,” he said.

     

    People who are not in the medical field who wear the masks often come in contact with germs when they lift the mask up to eat or slip their fingers under the mask to blow their nose, he said.

    Panic-driven demand for face masks, Adalja said, is particularly worrisome because it could have “a negative supply shock” effect on hospital personnel who need these masks more than the general public.

     

    in early March, Adams told viewers that “you can actually increase your risk of getting a respiratory disease like coronavirus” if you wear a mask improperly.

     

    “It’s not going to do anything for you. It’s the people who actually have coronavirus that have the masks, need the masks,” Tapper said.

     

    First of all, most people buying masks are not getting one that stops the virus from reaching their mouth or nose anyway. The coronavirus is transmitted through droplets, not through the air. That means you cannot randomly breathe it in, but it also means the standard surgical mask you see people wearing will not help. Those masks are designed to keep droplets in—not to keep them out—and are intended to keep the wearer from getting others sick. 

     

    whether this coronavirus is “airborne” and what that means. The virus is not airborne using the scientific definition used for pathogenssuch as tuberculosisor measles. Droplets might become aerosolized for some viruses, but there is not yet evidence showing that this coronavirus can be breathed in when a nearby infected individual exhales.

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    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-cdc-says-americans-dont-have-to-wear-facemasks-because-of-coronavirus-2020-01-30

     

    Most people don’t know how to use face masks correctly, and a rush to buy masks could prevent the people who need them most — health care providers — from getting them

     

    In fact the U.S. surgeon general recently urged the public to “STOP BUYING MASKS!” “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!,” wrote Surgeon General Jerome Adams

     

    “The virus is not spreading in the general community,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the Center for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in a Jan. 30 briefing. “We don’t routinely recommend the use of face masks by the public to prevent respiratory illness. And we certainly are not recommending that at this time for this new virus.”

     

    Adalja applauded the CDC’s recommendation on face masks. “Even during H1N1 [flu epidemic], there was no recommendation to wear face masks,” he said. They “end up creating a false sense of security and most people don’t wear them appropriately,” he said.

     

    People who are not in the medical field who wear the masks often come in contact with germs when they lift the mask up to eat or slip their fingers under the mask to blow their nose, he said.

    Panic-driven demand for face masks, Adalja said, is particularly worrisome because it could have “a negative supply shock” effect on hospital personnel who need these masks more than the general public.

     

    in early March, Adams told viewers that “you can actually increase your risk of getting a respiratory disease like coronavirus” if you wear a mask improperly.

     

    “It’s not going to do anything for you. It’s the people who actually have coronavirus that have the masks, need the masks,” Tapper said.

     

    First of all, most people buying masks are not getting one that stops the virus from reaching their mouth or nose anyway. The coronavirus is transmitted through droplets, not through the air. That means you cannot randomly breathe it in, but it also means the standard surgical mask you see people wearing will not help. Those masks are designed to keep droplets in—not to keep them out—and are intended to keep the wearer from getting others sick. 

     

    whether this coronavirus is “airborne” and what that means. The virus is not airborne using the scientific definition used for pathogenssuch as tuberculosisor measles. Droplets might become aerosolized for some viruses, but there is not yet evidence showing that this coronavirus can be breathed in when a nearby infected individual exhales.

     
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    So, why the recent change in guidance by the CDC and our own governor? Was it because initially there were not enough masks to go around? It makes sense that medical personnel and the sick should have been given top priority of available supplies. But why is it just now that experts are telling us even two layers of cotton material — like a T-shirt — covering the face can help prevent the spread of COVID-19? Surely the experts have known that all along.

     

    Nurses at a hospital in Mexico said they were instructed not to wear masks when treating patients so they wouldn't incite fear, Reuters reported.

     

    In the face of this, publicly presenting an absolute answer — “You don’t need them” — for something that requires a qualified response just makes people trust authorities even less...the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. told the public to wear masks if they were sick. However, there is increasing evidence of asymptomatic transmission, especially through younger people who have milder cases and don’t know they are sick but are still infectious.Since the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. do say that masks lessen the chances that infected people will infect others, then everyone should use masks.

     

    Americans should wear face masks as a way to help stifle the spread of COVID-19, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top doctors leading the public health fight against the coronavirus pandemic — a departure from previous government guidance to only wear a mask if you were caring for someone with the illness or had it yourself.

    “If everybody does that, we’re each protecting each other,” Fauci said

     

    For months, federal health officials discouraged the use of surgical face masks. In recent weeks, some health experts began to question that decision, suggesting that the use of face coverings could have helped slow the spread of the virus sooner. But on Friday, the task force said it was now recommending face coverings “in light of recent studies.”

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    So, why the recent change in guidance by the CDC and our own governor? Was it because initially there were not enough masks to go around? It makes sense that medical personnel and the sick should have been given top priority of available supplies. But why is it just now that experts are telling us even two layers of cotton material — like a T-shirt — covering the face can help prevent the spread of COVID-19? Surely the experts have known that all along.

     

    Nurses at a hospital in Mexico said they were instructed not to wear masks when treating patients so they wouldn't incite fear, Reuters reported.

     

    In the face of this, publicly presenting an absolute answer — “You don’t need them” — for something that requires a qualified response just makes people trust authorities even less...the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. told the public to wear masks if they were sick. However, there is increasing evidence of asymptomatic transmission, especially through younger people who have milder cases and don’t know they are sick but are still infectious.Since the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. do say that masks lessen the chances that infected people will infect others, then everyone should use masks.

     

    Americans should wear face masks as a way to help stifle the spread of COVID-19, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the nation’s top doctors leading the public health fight against the coronavirus pandemic — a departure from previous government guidance to only wear a mask if you were caring for someone with the illness or had it yourself.

    “If everybody does that, we’re each protecting each other,” Fauci said

     

    For months, federal health officials discouraged the use of surgical face masks. In recent weeks, some health experts began to question that decision, suggesting that the use of face coverings could have helped slow the spread of the virus sooner. But on Friday, the task force said it was now recommending face coverings “in light of recent studies.”

     
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    Psychotherapist Amy Morin explains that wearing the masks does more for our mental health than our physical well-being, by soothing our anxiety and giving us the illusion of being in control.

     

    If a mask is not tested and approved as a legitimate N95 respirator by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), it’s not going to do much to stop the new coronavirus from reaching your mouth or nose.

     

    You know it’s serious when the Surgeon General has to say “seriously people.” Indeed, the current mask-sales frenzy is exactly that: a frenzy.

     

    Yeah, a standard surgical mask like the one that she is wearing ain’t going to keep much out except maybe keeping people from recognizing that she is Kate Hudson. Such masks are quite hole-ly, having many, many small holes. And viruses are small enough to get through these holes.

     

    Wearing a mask still leaves your eyes exposed to get viruses rubbed into them, unless you wear airtight goggles at the same time.

     

     

    Jeffrey Swisher, chairman of California Pacific Medical Center’s department of anesthesiology, has also tweetedthat "viral particles are too small and the filtration ability of surgical masks is insufficient" to prevent the spread of novel coronavirus. He added: "Surgical masks protect you as a patient in the operating room from bacterial contamination. Stop buying and hoarding them!"

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    Psychotherapist Amy Morin explains that wearing the masks does more for our mental health than our physical well-being, by soothing our anxiety and giving us the illusion of being in control.

     

    If a mask is not tested and approved as a legitimate N95 respirator by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), it’s not going to do much to stop the new coronavirus from reaching your mouth or nose.

     

    You know it’s serious when the Surgeon General has to say “seriously people.” Indeed, the current mask-sales frenzy is exactly that: a frenzy.

     

    Yeah, a standard surgical mask like the one that she is wearing ain’t going to keep much out except maybe keeping people from recognizing that she is Kate Hudson. Such masks are quite hole-ly, having many, many small holes. And viruses are small enough to get through these holes.

     

    Wearing a mask still leaves your eyes exposed to get viruses rubbed into them, unless you wear airtight goggles at the same time.

     

     

    Jeffrey Swisher, chairman of California Pacific Medical Center’s department of anesthesiology, has also tweetedthat "viral particles are too small and the filtration ability of surgical masks is insufficient" to prevent the spread of novel coronavirus. He added: "Surgical masks protect you as a patient in the operating room from bacterial contamination. Stop buying and hoarding them!"

     
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    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-04-masksdangerous-health.html

     

    The widespread use of cloth masks by healthcare workers may actually put them at increased risk of respiratory illness and viral infections and their global use should be discouraged, according to a UNSW study.

     

    The study found respiratory infectionwas much higher among healthcare workers wearing cloth masks.

    The penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% compared to medical masks with 44%.

    Professor Raina MacIntyre, lead study author and head of UNSW's School of Public Health and Community Medicine, said the results of the study caution against the use of cloth masks.

     

    The authors speculate that the cloth masks' moisture retention, their reuse and poor filtration may explain the increased risk of infection.

     

    "These guidelines need to be updated to reflect the higher infection risk posed by cloth masks, as found in our study."

     

    Professor MacIntyre said the study's results pointed to the effectiveness of medical masks, in addition to the harm caused by cloth masks.

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    The widespread use of cloth masks by healthcare workers may actually put them at increased risk of respiratory illness and viral infections and their global use should be discouraged, according to a UNSW study.

     

    The study found respiratory infectionwas much higher among healthcare workers wearing cloth masks.

    The penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% compared to medical masks with 44%.

    Professor Raina MacIntyre, lead study author and head of UNSW's School of Public Health and Community Medicine, said the results of the study caution against the use of cloth masks.

     

    The authors speculate that the cloth masks' moisture retention, their reuse and poor filtration may explain the increased risk of infection.

     

    "These guidelines need to be updated to reflect the higher infection risk posed by cloth masks, as found in our study."

     

    Professor MacIntyre said the study's results pointed to the effectiveness of medical masks, in addition to the harm caused by cloth masks.

     
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    At any rate, my rant about people so easily duped into wearing masks.  

    Now you have to wear it to go to work or to go shop. 

    Of course you don’t want to offend folks — because they have been led to believe that this really is the correct thing to do.  

    As the man said:

    ”When I went out in early March with a mask and gloves on, people looked at me like I was a weirdo. Now I go out without gloves and a mask on, people look at me like I’m an idiot.”

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    At any rate, my rant about people so easily duped into wearing masks.  

    Now you have to wear it to go to work or to go shop. 

    Of course you don’t want to offend folks — because they have been led to believe that this really is the correct thing to do.  

    As the man said:

    ”When I went out in early March with a mask and gloves on, people looked at me like I was a weirdo. Now I go out without gloves and a mask on, people look at me like I’m an idiot.”

     
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    At any rate, my rant about people so easily duped into wearing masks.   Now you have to wear it to go to work or to go shop.  Of course you don’t want to offend folks — because they have been led to believe that Rthis really is the correct thing to do.   As the man said: ”When I went out in early March with a mask and gloves on, people looked at me like I was a weirdo. Now I go out without gloves and a mask on, people look at me like I’m an idiot.”

    Excellent research Raiders 22. If you're telling the truth then you don't have to keep changing your story. Sure sign of a cover-up to protect the lies they are telling. I think that's what you have pointed out here.

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    At any rate, my rant about people so easily duped into wearing masks.   Now you have to wear it to go to work or to go shop.  Of course you don’t want to offend folks — because they have been led to believe that Rthis really is the correct thing to do.   As the man said: ”When I went out in early March with a mask and gloves on, people looked at me like I was a weirdo. Now I go out without gloves and a mask on, people look at me like I’m an idiot.”

    Excellent research Raiders 22. If you're telling the truth then you don't have to keep changing your story. Sure sign of a cover-up to protect the lies they are telling. I think that's what you have pointed out here.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: At any rate, my rant about people so easily duped into wearing masks.   Now you have to wear it to go to work or to go shop.  Of course you don’t want to offend folks — because they have been led to believe that Rthis really is the correct thing to do.   As the man said: ”When I went out in early March with a mask and gloves on, people looked at me like I was a weirdo. Now I go out without gloves and a mask on, people look at me like I’m an idiot.” Excellent research Raiders 22. If you're telling the truth then you don't have to keep changing your story. Sure sign of a cover-up to protect the lies they are telling. I think that's what you have pointed out here.

    That's not what he's pointed out at all? I truly believe yoy don't even read the things you comment on or even the articles you post. Do you want we to give you a cliff notes of what Raiders posted since you clearly either don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: At any rate, my rant about people so easily duped into wearing masks.   Now you have to wear it to go to work or to go shop.  Of course you don’t want to offend folks — because they have been led to believe that Rthis really is the correct thing to do.   As the man said: ”When I went out in early March with a mask and gloves on, people looked at me like I was a weirdo. Now I go out without gloves and a mask on, people look at me like I’m an idiot.” Excellent research Raiders 22. If you're telling the truth then you don't have to keep changing your story. Sure sign of a cover-up to protect the lies they are telling. I think that's what you have pointed out here.

    That's not what he's pointed out at all? I truly believe yoy don't even read the things you comment on or even the articles you post. Do you want we to give you a cliff notes of what Raiders posted since you clearly either don't get it.

     
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    Yeah.  I’m not saying it was a coverup or even lies.

    I think they did not fully understand how serious it was at the start.  I don’t think they saw it as a direct threat to us at first.  Then when it became apparent it was a threat and it was serious — they tried to assuage folks.  Then they tried to warn folks that masks didn’t really help — because they didn’t want them all bought up.  Then they tried to tell them that the medical folks needed them.  But by then people were scarfing them up.  Now they have swung the pendulum too far the other way — businesses feel forced to make workers wear them and politicians feel the need to make people feel obligated to wear them.  

    Of course masks can help.  But their original point is still very valid — masks are best used by the folks that are sick and the people that are aiding the sick.  Now the vast majority of healthy people are being made to wear the masks because the politicians have set the policies based on herd mentality. 

    As the studies have shown they can even be bad for you.  I mean think about it — do you really think it is good to breathe in and out your own CO2 all day long?  And as the studies have shown you also have a greater risk with cloth ones, for example, increasing respiratory illnesses because of the retention of moisture and germs and their reuse. 

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    Yeah.  I’m not saying it was a coverup or even lies.

    I think they did not fully understand how serious it was at the start.  I don’t think they saw it as a direct threat to us at first.  Then when it became apparent it was a threat and it was serious — they tried to assuage folks.  Then they tried to warn folks that masks didn’t really help — because they didn’t want them all bought up.  Then they tried to tell them that the medical folks needed them.  But by then people were scarfing them up.  Now they have swung the pendulum too far the other way — businesses feel forced to make workers wear them and politicians feel the need to make people feel obligated to wear them.  

    Of course masks can help.  But their original point is still very valid — masks are best used by the folks that are sick and the people that are aiding the sick.  Now the vast majority of healthy people are being made to wear the masks because the politicians have set the policies based on herd mentality. 

    As the studies have shown they can even be bad for you.  I mean think about it — do you really think it is good to breathe in and out your own CO2 all day long?  And as the studies have shown you also have a greater risk with cloth ones, for example, increasing respiratory illnesses because of the retention of moisture and germs and their reuse. 

     
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    There is also the additional concern of it inhibiting your natural immunity actions to everyday things.  Just the same as the quarantine.  Now you are isolated and not exposed to everyday germs and things as much and it may weaken your immune systems.  So, there is some fear that the quarantine will actually backfire somewhat.  But, as with the masks, we went from being encouraged to go about as normal at first — then we went straight away to you should stay home at all costs.  That is not how it should have worked.  They should have been isolating the sick and the at-risk population. And, if possible, doing some tracing.  

    My overall point is:  I don’t think they planned this out this way.  They could NOT have planned this out to work this well, no way.  

    They just bungled it at every single turn.  

    I, for sure, KNOW the media and democrats see this as an ‘opportunity’ — which is disgusting to me.  They have never been this ‘concerned or frightened’ about a flu or virus before.  They are simply ‘taking advantage’ — which is completely wrong. 

    Like the man said, “When we look back at our economy, we will see this as our biggest own goal in modern history”.

    There will be plenty of studies and research done on this.  So, hopefully we will learn from it. 

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    There is also the additional concern of it inhibiting your natural immunity actions to everyday things.  Just the same as the quarantine.  Now you are isolated and not exposed to everyday germs and things as much and it may weaken your immune systems.  So, there is some fear that the quarantine will actually backfire somewhat.  But, as with the masks, we went from being encouraged to go about as normal at first — then we went straight away to you should stay home at all costs.  That is not how it should have worked.  They should have been isolating the sick and the at-risk population. And, if possible, doing some tracing.  

    My overall point is:  I don’t think they planned this out this way.  They could NOT have planned this out to work this well, no way.  

    They just bungled it at every single turn.  

    I, for sure, KNOW the media and democrats see this as an ‘opportunity’ — which is disgusting to me.  They have never been this ‘concerned or frightened’ about a flu or virus before.  They are simply ‘taking advantage’ — which is completely wrong. 

    Like the man said, “When we look back at our economy, we will see this as our biggest own goal in modern history”.

    There will be plenty of studies and research done on this.  So, hopefully we will learn from it. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    There is also the additional concern of it inhibiting your natural immunity actions to everyday things.  Just the same as the quarantine.  Now you are isolated and not exposed to everyday germs and things as much and it may weaken your immune systems.  So, there is some fear that the quarantine will actually backfire somewhat.  But, as with the masks, we went from being encouraged to go about as normal at first — then we went straight away to you should stay home at all costs.  That is not how it should have worked.  They should have been isolating the sick and the at-risk population. And, if possible, doing some tracing.   My overall point is:  I don’t think they planned this out this way.  They could NOT have planned this out to work this well, no way.   They just bungled it at every single turn.   I, for sure, KNOW the media and democrats see this as an ‘opportunity’ — which is disgusting to me.  They have never been this ‘concerned or frightened’ about a flu or virus before.  They are simply ‘taking advantage’ — which is completely wrong.  Like the man said, “When we look back at our economy, we will see this as our biggest own goal in modern history”. There will be plenty of studies and research done on this.  So, hopefully we will learn from it.

    Then you truly are one of the many who believe the obvious lies and just think all those contradictions are dots that cannot be connected until after all the damages have been done and it's too late. Believe it or not, many others have seen this same hegalian dialectic played out before and aren't so simple minded that we need to wait for the bs Warren  Commission or 911 report to come out from a thoroughly corrupt Government. Lmao. But nice try.

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    There is also the additional concern of it inhibiting your natural immunity actions to everyday things.  Just the same as the quarantine.  Now you are isolated and not exposed to everyday germs and things as much and it may weaken your immune systems.  So, there is some fear that the quarantine will actually backfire somewhat.  But, as with the masks, we went from being encouraged to go about as normal at first — then we went straight away to you should stay home at all costs.  That is not how it should have worked.  They should have been isolating the sick and the at-risk population. And, if possible, doing some tracing.   My overall point is:  I don’t think they planned this out this way.  They could NOT have planned this out to work this well, no way.   They just bungled it at every single turn.   I, for sure, KNOW the media and democrats see this as an ‘opportunity’ — which is disgusting to me.  They have never been this ‘concerned or frightened’ about a flu or virus before.  They are simply ‘taking advantage’ — which is completely wrong.  Like the man said, “When we look back at our economy, we will see this as our biggest own goal in modern history”. There will be plenty of studies and research done on this.  So, hopefully we will learn from it.

    Then you truly are one of the many who believe the obvious lies and just think all those contradictions are dots that cannot be connected until after all the damages have been done and it's too late. Believe it or not, many others have seen this same hegalian dialectic played out before and aren't so simple minded that we need to wait for the bs Warren  Commission or 911 report to come out from a thoroughly corrupt Government. Lmao. But nice try.

     
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    This guy nails it. Funny as hell.

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    Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Bronx style   Delivery and Takeout   http://www.agingrebel.com/18043 Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.
    Yeah I just like them cats style,No Fear with Iron Balls   Very Professional and obviously not their first hit an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Bronx style   Delivery and Takeout   http://www.agingrebel.com/18043 Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.
    Yeah I just like them cats style,No Fear with Iron Balls   Very Professional and obviously not their first hit an_popcorn

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Bronx style   Delivery and Takeout   http://www.agingrebel.com/18043 Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.
    Technically you could partially blame this on Covert-19 with the allowing of masks in public. Great move  Im sure dude on receiving end of delivery wishes he could of used his 2ND Amendment Right.  My Motto about our 2ND Amendment has always been "I would rather have a gun and not need it Then need a gun and not have it". an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Bronx style   Delivery and Takeout   http://www.agingrebel.com/18043 Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.
    Technically you could partially blame this on Covert-19 with the allowing of masks in public. Great move  Im sure dude on receiving end of delivery wishes he could of used his 2ND Amendment Right.  My Motto about our 2ND Amendment has always been "I would rather have a gun and not need it Then need a gun and not have it". an_cheers

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Bronx style   Delivery and Takeout   http://www.agingrebel.com/18043 Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.Technically you could partially blame this on Covert-19 with the allowing of masks in public. Great move  Im sure dude on receiving end of delivery wishes he could of used his 2ND Amendment Right.  My Motto about our 2ND Amendment has always been "I would rather have a gun and not need it Then need a gun and not have it".

    You know I used to think that the NRA had a lot of nut cases in their organization. My brother being one who keeps a small arsenal in his house and used to be one of those rabid Raiders fans with season tickets. I used to worry about him, lol.

    But now I know why they feel the way they do. Today's reality really brings out the importance of the 2nd amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Bronx style   Delivery and Takeout   http://www.agingrebel.com/18043 Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.Technically you could partially blame this on Covert-19 with the allowing of masks in public. Great move  Im sure dude on receiving end of delivery wishes he could of used his 2ND Amendment Right.  My Motto about our 2ND Amendment has always been "I would rather have a gun and not need it Then need a gun and not have it".

    You know I used to think that the NRA had a lot of nut cases in their organization. My brother being one who keeps a small arsenal in his house and used to be one of those rabid Raiders fans with season tickets. I used to worry about him, lol.

    But now I know why they feel the way they do. Today's reality really brings out the importance of the 2nd amendment.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Bronx style   Delivery and Takeout   http://www.agingrebel.com/18043 Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.Technically you could partially blame this on Covert-19 with the allowing of masks in public. Great move  Im sure dude on receiving end of delivery wishes he could of used his 2ND Amendment Right.  My Motto about our 2ND Amendment has always been "I would rather have a gun and not need it Then need a gun and not have it". You know I used to think that the NRA had a lot of nut cases in their organization. My brother being one who keeps a small arsenal in his house and used to be one of those rabid Raiders fans with season tickets. I used to worry about him, lol. But now I know why they feel the way they do. Today's reality really brings out the importance of the 2nd amendment.
    Hope the glasses they were wearing were these  https://www.reflectacles.com/irlenses an_popcorn  I have heard that Iris scanning technology is rapidly improving on stationed surveillance camereas

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: Quote Originally Posted by BarneysDad: Bronx style   Delivery and Takeout   http://www.agingrebel.com/18043 Just another death to be counted as Covid19 no doubt.Technically you could partially blame this on Covert-19 with the allowing of masks in public. Great move  Im sure dude on receiving end of delivery wishes he could of used his 2ND Amendment Right.  My Motto about our 2ND Amendment has always been "I would rather have a gun and not need it Then need a gun and not have it". You know I used to think that the NRA had a lot of nut cases in their organization. My brother being one who keeps a small arsenal in his house and used to be one of those rabid Raiders fans with season tickets. I used to worry about him, lol. But now I know why they feel the way they do. Today's reality really brings out the importance of the 2nd amendment.
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    Then you truly are one of the many who believe the obvious lies and just think all those contradictions are dots that cannot be connected until after all the damages have been done and it's too late. Believe it or not, many others have seen this same hegalian dialectic played out before and aren't so simple minded that we need to wait for the bs Warren  Commission or 911 report to come out from a thoroughly corrupt Government. Lmao. But nice try.

    What lies are you talking about with the masks exactly?  My points were about the masks — why and how they bungled that.   I don’t think they intentionally ‘lied’ about it.  I think they addressed it wrong in the beginning.  Then I think they over-scared people and had to try to counter that — and overcorrected it.  And now, here we are.   

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    Then you truly are one of the many who believe the obvious lies and just think all those contradictions are dots that cannot be connected until after all the damages have been done and it's too late. Believe it or not, many others have seen this same hegalian dialectic played out before and aren't so simple minded that we need to wait for the bs Warren  Commission or 911 report to come out from a thoroughly corrupt Government. Lmao. But nice try.

    What lies are you talking about with the masks exactly?  My points were about the masks — why and how they bungled that.   I don’t think they intentionally ‘lied’ about it.  I think they addressed it wrong in the beginning.  Then I think they over-scared people and had to try to counter that — and overcorrected it.  And now, here we are.   

     

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