The Donald Ukraine has to make some concessions to Russia since they volunteered themselves to be invaded: “I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into.”
He continued his ignorance saying Russia deserves to keep the conquered territory since they worked hard for it. He was asked if he could see a future where Ukraine returns to its pre-invasion borders: “It certainly would seem to be unlikely. Russia took a lot of land and they fought for that land.”
President Zelensky responded that Ukraine will not accept any agreements reached between Russia and the US if he is not included in the discussions, and said that other European countries must be included as well.
The Donald shouldn't be involved in any negotiations.
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The Donald Ukraine has to make some concessions to Russia since they volunteered themselves to be invaded: “I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into.”
He continued his ignorance saying Russia deserves to keep the conquered territory since they worked hard for it. He was asked if he could see a future where Ukraine returns to its pre-invasion borders: “It certainly would seem to be unlikely. Russia took a lot of land and they fought for that land.”
President Zelensky responded that Ukraine will not accept any agreements reached between Russia and the US if he is not included in the discussions, and said that other European countries must be included as well.
The Donald shouldn't be involved in any negotiations.
Ukraine has to make some concessions to Russia since they volunteered themselves to be invaded: “I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into.”
He continued his ignorance saying Russia deserves to keep the conquered territory since they worked hard for it.
Wow. RAPE is okay in trumpworld.
But then, from what we clearly understand about trump, this is no surprise.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
The [fascist/Convicted felon/rapist]:
Ukraine has to make some concessions to Russia since they volunteered themselves to be invaded: “I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into.”
He continued his ignorance saying Russia deserves to keep the conquered territory since they worked hard for it.
Wow. RAPE is okay in trumpworld.
But then, from what we clearly understand about trump, this is no surprise.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: The [fascist/Convicted felon/rapist]: Ukraine has to make some concessions to Russia since they volunteered themselves to be invaded: “I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into.” He continued his ignorance saying Russia deserves to keep the conquered territory since they worked hard for it.
Wow. RAPE is okay in trumpworld.
But then, from what we clearly understand about trump, this is no surprise.
Dumbass/racist Megyn Kelly calls Obama-appointed federal judges “absolute idiots” who were hired because of their “DEI profile”
02/13/25
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: The [fascist/Convicted felon/rapist]: Ukraine has to make some concessions to Russia since they volunteered themselves to be invaded: “I think they have to make peace. That was not a good war to go into.” He continued his ignorance saying Russia deserves to keep the conquered territory since they worked hard for it.
Wow. RAPE is okay in trumpworld.
But then, from what we clearly understand about trump, this is no surprise.
Dumbass/racist Megyn Kelly calls Obama-appointed federal judges “absolute idiots” who were hired because of their “DEI profile”
Trump threatens 50-100% tariffs on cars made in Canada and Mexico. This would damage US auto industry because of integrated and optimized supply chain. There is no such thing as a purely American car because auto parts often cross borders before a car is completed to keep costs down and quality high. Tariffs would increase prices, decrease car sales and manufacturing jobs. Replacing foreign factories would cost billions and take years to accomplish.
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Trump threatens 50-100% tariffs on cars made in Canada and Mexico. This would damage US auto industry because of integrated and optimized supply chain. There is no such thing as a purely American car because auto parts often cross borders before a car is completed to keep costs down and quality high. Tariffs would increase prices, decrease car sales and manufacturing jobs. Replacing foreign factories would cost billions and take years to accomplish.
The Donald Ukraine has to make some concessions to Russia since they volunteered themselves to be invaded: He continued his ignorance saying Russia deserves to keep the conquered territory since they worked hard for it. Zelensky responded that Ukraine will not accept any agreements reached between Russia and the US if he is not included in the discussions, and said that other European countries must be included as well. The Donald shouldn't be involved in any negotiations.
Trump forgets that Russia is the aggressor in illegal invasion and Ukraine has no choice but to defend itself. Zelensky seeks security guarantees because Russia has a history of breaking peace agreements or invading neighbors. As in Afghanistan, Trump idea of peace is for one side to surrender and not have a say in determining its future. Apparently, dictators believe that might makes right. Of course, Russian aggression shouldn't be rewarded but Trump, Putin and Jinping don't care. They are imperialists who seek to annex other countries.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
The Donald Ukraine has to make some concessions to Russia since they volunteered themselves to be invaded: He continued his ignorance saying Russia deserves to keep the conquered territory since they worked hard for it. Zelensky responded that Ukraine will not accept any agreements reached between Russia and the US if he is not included in the discussions, and said that other European countries must be included as well. The Donald shouldn't be involved in any negotiations.
Trump forgets that Russia is the aggressor in illegal invasion and Ukraine has no choice but to defend itself. Zelensky seeks security guarantees because Russia has a history of breaking peace agreements or invading neighbors. As in Afghanistan, Trump idea of peace is for one side to surrender and not have a say in determining its future. Apparently, dictators believe that might makes right. Of course, Russian aggression shouldn't be rewarded but Trump, Putin and Jinping don't care. They are imperialists who seek to annex other countries.
Again, nothing that you posted in bold in post #826 can be verified with internet searches. Guess you just make shit up. Too bad.
Dumb political statements? Senator Chris Murphy, Conneticut went sourched earth on an X post. The post said; If you support Border Czar Tom Homan arresting AOC for giving illegal aliens instructions on how to avoid deportation, post a [thumbs up emoji] in the comments," the fan page account posted on Thursday. "Make your voice heard."
Murphy responded with It takes some f---ng gall to have Vance lecturing Europe on ‘free speech’ when at the exact same time the Trump regime is threatening Democrats back home with arrest if they even explain people’s rights to them."
Murphy's tweet was hit with a community note, detailing that he was responding to a parody fan account and that Lara Trump did not issue such a tweet.
The idiot thought it was Lara Trump posting when in fact it was a parody account.
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@Midnight1
Again, nothing that you posted in bold in post #826 can be verified with internet searches. Guess you just make shit up. Too bad.
Dumb political statements? Senator Chris Murphy, Conneticut went sourched earth on an X post. The post said; If you support Border Czar Tom Homan arresting AOC for giving illegal aliens instructions on how to avoid deportation, post a [thumbs up emoji] in the comments," the fan page account posted on Thursday. "Make your voice heard."
Murphy responded with It takes some f---ng gall to have Vance lecturing Europe on ‘free speech’ when at the exact same time the Trump regime is threatening Democrats back home with arrest if they even explain people’s rights to them."
Murphy's tweet was hit with a community note, detailing that he was responding to a parody fan account and that Lara Trump did not issue such a tweet.
The idiot thought it was Lara Trump posting when in fact it was a parody account.
I receive a newsletter from a former Federal prosecutor on the 13th & shared it with the forum. A simple search does not bring any results & I'm not about to listen to anymore oval office interviews to prove the authenticity.
I did & do not make shit up & you should know that by now.
I'm going to be much more careful when I post in the future. Getting a secondary confirming source will be my course of action moving forward.
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I receive a newsletter from a former Federal prosecutor on the 13th & shared it with the forum. A simple search does not bring any results & I'm not about to listen to anymore oval office interviews to prove the authenticity.
I did & do not make shit up & you should know that by now.
I'm going to be much more careful when I post in the future. Getting a secondary confirming source will be my course of action moving forward.
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@UNIMAN Full disclosure...I have nothing to hide. If you so choose, the newsletter is written by Ron Filipkowski & it's free to subscribe to for now. For more info, you can GOOGLE or check him out on blue.sky.
@UNIMAN Full disclosure...I have nothing to hide. If you so choose, the newsletter is written by Ron Filipkowski & it's free to subscribe to for now. For more info, you can GOOGLE or check him out on blue.sky.
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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@UNIMAN Full disclosure...I have nothing to hide. If you so choose, the newsletter is written by Ron Filipkowski & it's free to subscribe to for now. For more info, you can GOOGLE or check him out on blue.sky.
It’s terrible that people dying and being mutilated in a war has simply turned into a topic that both parties use selfishly to push their partisan views and then roll laugh about it .
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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It’s terrible that people dying and being mutilated in a war has simply turned into a topic that both parties use selfishly to push their partisan views and then roll laugh about it .
"The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO"
Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
"The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO"
Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US.
"The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land
...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO"
Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US.
YUP!
If it was about stopping NATO countries on their borders they would have invaded Finland 2 years ago too
They didn't because NATO is just a ruse, an excuse for land grab of a non NATO country and a very juicy one at that in Ukraine where as you say they have and still believe it belongs in Russia!
But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that?
Because they absolutely would not give back all annexed territories and retreat behind UN established borders, that proves it was either entirely or at least mostly about land grab of a giant non NATO country with a multitude of resources they covet
6 NATO countries share a border with Russia
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
"The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land
...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO"
Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US.
YUP!
If it was about stopping NATO countries on their borders they would have invaded Finland 2 years ago too
They didn't because NATO is just a ruse, an excuse for land grab of a non NATO country and a very juicy one at that in Ukraine where as you say they have and still believe it belongs in Russia!
But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that?
Because they absolutely would not give back all annexed territories and retreat behind UN established borders, that proves it was either entirely or at least mostly about land grab of a giant non NATO country with a multitude of resources they covet
But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that?
Perhaps you mean something like the Minks Agreement, otherwise known as the Belovezha Accords....
Time is a flat circle
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@Zeus4par
But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that?
Perhaps you mean something like the Minks Agreement, otherwise known as the Belovezha Accords....
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: "The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO" Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US. YUP! If it was about stopping NATO countries on their borders they would have invaded Finland 2 years ago too They didn't because NATO is just a ruse, an excuse for land grab of a non NATO country and a very juicy one at that in Ukraine where as you say they have and still believe it belongs in Russia! But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that? Because they absolutely would not give back all annexed territories and retreat behind UN established borders, that proves it was either entirely or at least mostly about land grab of a giant non NATO country with a multitude of resources they covet 6 NATO countries share a border with Russia
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: "The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO" Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US. YUP! If it was about stopping NATO countries on their borders they would have invaded Finland 2 years ago too They didn't because NATO is just a ruse, an excuse for land grab of a non NATO country and a very juicy one at that in Ukraine where as you say they have and still believe it belongs in Russia! But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that? Because they absolutely would not give back all annexed territories and retreat behind UN established borders, that proves it was either entirely or at least mostly about land grab of a giant non NATO country with a multitude of resources they covet 6 NATO countries share a border with Russia
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: "The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO" Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US. YUP! If it was about stopping NATO countries on their borders they would have invaded Finland 2 years ago too They didn't because NATO is just a ruse, an excuse for land grab of a non NATO country and a very juicy one at that in Ukraine where as you say they have and still believe it belongs in Russia! But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that? Because they absolutely would not give back all annexed territories and retreat behind UN established borders, that proves it was either entirely or at least mostly about land grab of a giant non NATO country with a multitude of resources they covet 6 NATO countries share a border with Russia
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: "The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO" Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US. YUP! If it was about stopping NATO countries on their borders they would have invaded Finland 2 years ago too They didn't because NATO is just a ruse, an excuse for land grab of a non NATO country and a very juicy one at that in Ukraine where as you say they have and still believe it belongs in Russia! But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that? Because they absolutely would not give back all annexed territories and retreat behind UN established borders, that proves it was either entirely or at least mostly about land grab of a giant non NATO country with a multitude of resources they covet 6 NATO countries share a border with Russia
I know a guy from the Ukraine that lost his brother . and wife’s mother . and can’t sleep nights cuz of the plight of those that suffer . Trouble comes to find him . Bad news on the daily . He lost all his property . but it’s his conscience that’s rocked severely . Cuz he fears he . Just isn’t doing enough . To protect . But how can he ? When he’s just a working man ? And friendly ? And not hurtful like those burning his world that are his “ enemies “ ? Deadly . And diabolical . Every second the stress attacks . Last night we met with friends but he just set himself on the bench . And didn’t talk or hang . Feel bad for that dude . Mak stay up if you’re reading this .
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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I know a guy from the Ukraine that lost his brother . and wife’s mother . and can’t sleep nights cuz of the plight of those that suffer . Trouble comes to find him . Bad news on the daily . He lost all his property . but it’s his conscience that’s rocked severely . Cuz he fears he . Just isn’t doing enough . To protect . But how can he ? When he’s just a working man ? And friendly ? And not hurtful like those burning his world that are his “ enemies “ ? Deadly . And diabolical . Every second the stress attacks . Last night we met with friends but he just set himself on the bench . And didn’t talk or hang . Feel bad for that dude . Mak stay up if you’re reading this .
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: "The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO" Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US.
YUP!
If it was about stopping NATO countries on their borders they would have invaded Finland 2 years ago too
They didn't because NATO is just a ruse, an excuse for land grab of a non NATO country and a very juicy one at that in Ukraine where as you say they have and still believe it belongs in Russia!
But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that?
Because they absolutely would not give back all annexed territories and retreat behind UN established borders, that proves it was either entirely or at least mostly about land grab of a giant non NATO country with a multitude of resources they covet
6 NATO countries share a border with Russia
@Zeus4par
Hammer - Nail - Head right there. That won't stop the right wing lies though....
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: "The war in Ukraine isn't about Russia gaining land ...it's about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO" Ukraine never had a good chance of joining NATO. Besides, NATO is a defensive alliance which poses no threat to Russia. For years, Russia kept minimal defenses near borders of NATO countries. Ironic that former soviet republics want to join NATO because of Russia threat. Imperialist Russia has a long history of invading neighbors. Russians believe Ukraine belongs to Russia. Similar to China's obsession with Taiwan and Trump's belief that Canada should be part of US.
YUP!
If it was about stopping NATO countries on their borders they would have invaded Finland 2 years ago too
They didn't because NATO is just a ruse, an excuse for land grab of a non NATO country and a very juicy one at that in Ukraine where as you say they have and still believe it belongs in Russia!
But even if promises and contracts were to be signed denying Ukraine NATO membership for 1000 years guaranteed, on condition neither Russia or any Russian influenced country (Belarous or others) ever encroach on Ukraine again or the contract is void, would Russia then say "It's all good now Ukraine, you can have all your territories back because our annexation of them was never about land grab anyway" ? Really. What dummy would actually believe Russia would do that?
Because they absolutely would not give back all annexed territories and retreat behind UN established borders, that proves it was either entirely or at least mostly about land grab of a giant non NATO country with a multitude of resources they covet
6 NATO countries share a border with Russia
@Zeus4par
Hammer - Nail - Head right there. That won't stop the right wing lies though....
Sen. Rand Paul was asked about Dipshit Donnie's plan on tariffs against Mexico and China: “I’m against the tariffs and I’m going to do everything I can to stop them.”
He'll do everything before he does anything!
Someone needs to tell him the horses have already left the barn.
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Sen. Rand Paul was asked about Dipshit Donnie's plan on tariffs against Mexico and China: “I’m against the tariffs and I’m going to do everything I can to stop them.”
He'll do everything before he does anything!
Someone needs to tell him the horses have already left the barn.
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