Members of the "elite" won't be found in these forums. There are plenty of successful people in here & some of us have controlled the financial opportunities/futures of others at one time or another in our careers & may have access to those in real power at times but nothing like the access to make major changes in our country but rather we can make positive changes for those we meet or never meet during our lives..
Having said that, most in here form their own opinions based on their life history, experiences and values taught to them by their immediate and extended families. Couple that with friends, educators mentors etc. as they also play a role in who we are or who we become.
Mass media or "elites" have little impact on most of us here although there are a few who will believe almost anything. I don't blame anyone for any of my faults but will credit many for my positive characteristics. Only you can give your power to the media/elites by listening/following them.
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@nostradumbass
Members of the "elite" won't be found in these forums. There are plenty of successful people in here & some of us have controlled the financial opportunities/futures of others at one time or another in our careers & may have access to those in real power at times but nothing like the access to make major changes in our country but rather we can make positive changes for those we meet or never meet during our lives..
Having said that, most in here form their own opinions based on their life history, experiences and values taught to them by their immediate and extended families. Couple that with friends, educators mentors etc. as they also play a role in who we are or who we become.
Mass media or "elites" have little impact on most of us here although there are a few who will believe almost anything. I don't blame anyone for any of my faults but will credit many for my positive characteristics. Only you can give your power to the media/elites by listening/following them.
@nostradumbass Members of the "elite" won't be found in these forums. There are plenty of successful people in here & some of us have controlled the financial opportunities/futures of others at one time or another in our careers & may have access to those in real power at times but nothing like the access to make major changes in our country but rather we can make positive changes for those we meet or never meet during our lives.. Having said that, most in here form their own opinions based on their life history, experiences and values taught to them by their immediate and extended families. Couple that with friends, educators mentors etc. as they also play a role in who we are or who we become. Mass media or "elites" have little impact on most of us here although there are a few who will believe almost anything. I don't blame anyone for any of my faults but will credit many for my positive characteristics. Only you can give your power to the media/elites by listening/following them.
Midnight1, as soon as you get a chance can you PM me please.....
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@nostradumbass Members of the "elite" won't be found in these forums. There are plenty of successful people in here & some of us have controlled the financial opportunities/futures of others at one time or another in our careers & may have access to those in real power at times but nothing like the access to make major changes in our country but rather we can make positive changes for those we meet or never meet during our lives.. Having said that, most in here form their own opinions based on their life history, experiences and values taught to them by their immediate and extended families. Couple that with friends, educators mentors etc. as they also play a role in who we are or who we become. Mass media or "elites" have little impact on most of us here although there are a few who will believe almost anything. I don't blame anyone for any of my faults but will credit many for my positive characteristics. Only you can give your power to the media/elites by listening/following them.
Midnight1, as soon as you get a chance can you PM me please.....
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: @DeezyAZ81 The problem is the sources used to debunk these allegations are controlled by the elites. If anyone goes against them they are bullied or hushed/cancelled (so much for the 1st amendment huh?) So who controls the sources claiming election fraud and missing voting logs? By the way none of these claims were presented, supported, or proven to be factual in any court case in Michigan or the Supreme Court.Can you tell me how many of the 64 cases were simply dismissed without any evidence allowed to be presented? I don't know the exact answer but my guess would be between 55-60. The courts disallowed evidence from being presented in court cases by Trump's legal team? What parallel universe do you live in? I know you are out there, but wow. Carry on.
I see how that sounds after I reread. There have been multiple cases dismissed without any evidence being allowed. Wether it be from lack of standing according Article III of the constitution,lack of proof of widespread fraud (which is the point of the evidence to begin with),attorney error or jurisdictional problems. The point is that there have been substantial number of cases dismissed and that "your powers to be" lump them in with actual cases that were actually tried and lost with every case that has been submitted. What ever happened to the 1000's of affidavits of the people that would commit a felony if they gave false information? I'm not trying to be a smartass, just trying to get a respectful answer from you. Can that be accomplished or not?
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: @DeezyAZ81 The problem is the sources used to debunk these allegations are controlled by the elites. If anyone goes against them they are bullied or hushed/cancelled (so much for the 1st amendment huh?) So who controls the sources claiming election fraud and missing voting logs? By the way none of these claims were presented, supported, or proven to be factual in any court case in Michigan or the Supreme Court.Can you tell me how many of the 64 cases were simply dismissed without any evidence allowed to be presented? I don't know the exact answer but my guess would be between 55-60. The courts disallowed evidence from being presented in court cases by Trump's legal team? What parallel universe do you live in? I know you are out there, but wow. Carry on.
I see how that sounds after I reread. There have been multiple cases dismissed without any evidence being allowed. Wether it be from lack of standing according Article III of the constitution,lack of proof of widespread fraud (which is the point of the evidence to begin with),attorney error or jurisdictional problems. The point is that there have been substantial number of cases dismissed and that "your powers to be" lump them in with actual cases that were actually tried and lost with every case that has been submitted. What ever happened to the 1000's of affidavits of the people that would commit a felony if they gave false information? I'm not trying to be a smartass, just trying to get a respectful answer from you. Can that be accomplished or not?
@nostradumbass Members of the "elite" won't be found in these forums. There are plenty of successful people in here & some of us have controlled the financial opportunities/futures of others at one time or another in our careers & may have access to those in real power at times but nothing like the access to make major changes in our country but rather we can make positive changes for those we meet or never meet during our lives.. Having said that, most in here form their own opinions based on their life history, experiences and values taught to them by their immediate and extended families. Couple that with friends, educators mentors etc. as they also play a role in who we are or who we become. Mass media or "elites" have little impact on most of us here although there are a few who will believe almost anything. I don't blame anyone for any of my faults but will credit many for my positive characteristics. Only you can give your power to the media/elites by listening/following them.
Well said - Midnite, I got something I want to send you. I am technology challenged, so anyway you can get me an address. my email is xxxxxxx. When you get this, it's kinda a cool it was something done by a local buddy of mine. You'll shit when you get it. Cool as hell.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@nostradumbass Members of the "elite" won't be found in these forums. There are plenty of successful people in here & some of us have controlled the financial opportunities/futures of others at one time or another in our careers & may have access to those in real power at times but nothing like the access to make major changes in our country but rather we can make positive changes for those we meet or never meet during our lives.. Having said that, most in here form their own opinions based on their life history, experiences and values taught to them by their immediate and extended families. Couple that with friends, educators mentors etc. as they also play a role in who we are or who we become. Mass media or "elites" have little impact on most of us here although there are a few who will believe almost anything. I don't blame anyone for any of my faults but will credit many for my positive characteristics. Only you can give your power to the media/elites by listening/following them.
Well said - Midnite, I got something I want to send you. I am technology challenged, so anyway you can get me an address. my email is xxxxxxx. When you get this, it's kinda a cool it was something done by a local buddy of mine. You'll shit when you get it. Cool as hell.
Comedian George Carlin said it best.. its a special club and we are not in it..( paraphrased)... money, power, control.. 2 examples.... blm riots.... sac kings p a announcer over 20 years gets fired for saying all lives matter.... Philadelphia times newspaper editorial writes building lives matters gets fired... I feel money can by power and control.
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Comedian George Carlin said it best.. its a special club and we are not in it..( paraphrased)... money, power, control.. 2 examples.... blm riots.... sac kings p a announcer over 20 years gets fired for saying all lives matter.... Philadelphia times newspaper editorial writes building lives matters gets fired... I feel money can by power and control.
Lindell video has evidence based on computer forensics with 100% proof that these dominion machines were connected to the internet and data was altered but somehow the most damning of evidence has disappeared.
All audits and recounts of paper ballots validate the accuracy of voting results from dominion machines in dozens of States. Dominion machines don't have modems connected to the internet. No evidence of data altered. Forsenic report by conspiracy theorist Ramslad is dismissed as flawed by Michigan attorney general, director of elections and secretary of state. He has no expertise in election technology and administration. US justice department found no evidence of widespread voting fraud. Homeland security department conclude 2020 election is the most secure in US history.
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Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass:
Lindell video has evidence based on computer forensics with 100% proof that these dominion machines were connected to the internet and data was altered but somehow the most damning of evidence has disappeared.
All audits and recounts of paper ballots validate the accuracy of voting results from dominion machines in dozens of States. Dominion machines don't have modems connected to the internet. No evidence of data altered. Forsenic report by conspiracy theorist Ramslad is dismissed as flawed by Michigan attorney general, director of elections and secretary of state. He has no expertise in election technology and administration. US justice department found no evidence of widespread voting fraud. Homeland security department conclude 2020 election is the most secure in US history.
Robinhood prevented their investors from buying GME to halt what was potentially one of the greatest Pyramid schemes in history. It's still Gamestop, dude. It's a brick and mortar retailer. And a bunch on investors getting together on reddit weren't going to prevent Gamestops from closing and save this company. It's an outdated business model. It's fun to stick it to the man but there were/is a ton of novice investors left holding the bag. Would you want to be the guy that sank your lifesavings into GME at $300+ on the strength of a viral news story?
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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@nostradumbass
Robinhood prevented their investors from buying GME to halt what was potentially one of the greatest Pyramid schemes in history. It's still Gamestop, dude. It's a brick and mortar retailer. And a bunch on investors getting together on reddit weren't going to prevent Gamestops from closing and save this company. It's an outdated business model. It's fun to stick it to the man but there were/is a ton of novice investors left holding the bag. Would you want to be the guy that sank your lifesavings into GME at $300+ on the strength of a viral news story?
When you got to the casino do they stop you from losing your money? No and they don’t care! Just like Robinhood doesn’t care but they were forced by our government to halt retail investors from trading GME to protect the elites.
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@StumpTownStu
C’mon really?
When you got to the casino do they stop you from losing your money? No and they don’t care! Just like Robinhood doesn’t care but they were forced by our government to halt retail investors from trading GME to protect the elites.
What do you think the end result would have been if they continued to let people trade GME? I'm not defending anyone. I hate these corporate fukks but in this specific case, what do you think would've happened?
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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@nostradumbass
What do you think the end result would have been if they continued to let people trade GME? I'm not defending anyone. I hate these corporate fukks but in this specific case, what do you think would've happened?
The elites are much more powerful than those courts and obviously at this point the SCOTUS. We are going in circles here, but again, the elites also control the MSM which you are basing your “facts” on.
So the elites control the courts, media, and own the SCOTUS, but they cannot prevent the My Pillow guy from creating and releasing a documentary with FAKE, false information about widespread election fraud?
Should be pretty easy for the "Elites" to just shut the My Pillow Guy up since they are the almighty and all powerful, yet they chose not to? Hmmmm.
Your theory doesn't make too much sense.
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Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass:
The elites are much more powerful than those courts and obviously at this point the SCOTUS. We are going in circles here, but again, the elites also control the MSM which you are basing your “facts” on.
So the elites control the courts, media, and own the SCOTUS, but they cannot prevent the My Pillow guy from creating and releasing a documentary with FAKE, false information about widespread election fraud?
Should be pretty easy for the "Elites" to just shut the My Pillow Guy up since they are the almighty and all powerful, yet they chose not to? Hmmmm.
Where are the 1000 plus affidavits. Why would people submit these under oath with possibility of committing a felony? Where are they?
You need to read up on the legality of affidavits. There is minimal risk for being prosecuted for perjury outside of actual court proceedings (depositions, grand jury proceedings, trial testimonies, Congressional testimonies). In fact, it is extremely rare.
Out of these 1000 plus affidavits, how many were attached to Trump's cases in courts? 0.
As to why they were not released publicly, ask your boy Giuliani. He is the one that prevented them from being released.
The "witnesses" on Trump's side that had their allegations actually heard in court were mostly dismissed or ruled not credible or inadmissible in court.
There just isn't anything there Snorkie. Move on.
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
Where are the 1000 plus affidavits. Why would people submit these under oath with possibility of committing a felony? Where are they?
You need to read up on the legality of affidavits. There is minimal risk for being prosecuted for perjury outside of actual court proceedings (depositions, grand jury proceedings, trial testimonies, Congressional testimonies). In fact, it is extremely rare.
Out of these 1000 plus affidavits, how many were attached to Trump's cases in courts? 0.
As to why they were not released publicly, ask your boy Giuliani. He is the one that prevented them from being released.
The "witnesses" on Trump's side that had their allegations actually heard in court were mostly dismissed or ruled not credible or inadmissible in court.
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Where are the 1000 plus affidavits. Why would people submit these under oath with possibility of committing a felony? Where are they? You need to read up on the legality of affidavits. There is minimal risk for being prosecuted for perjury outside of actual court proceedings (depositions, grand jury proceedings, trial testimonies, Congressional testimonies). In fact, it is extremely rare. Out of these 1000 plus affidavits, how many were attached to Trump's cases in courts? 0. As to why they were not released publicly, ask your boy Giuliani. He is the one that prevented them from being released. The "witnesses" on Trump's side that had their allegations actually heard in court were mostly dismissed or ruled not credible or inadmissible in court. There just isn't anything there Snorkie. Move on.
I actually read a couple articles on this matter and it seemed the common theme was the "credibility" of such. I do agree with what your saying. I believe the main belief that gamble and myself and others are convinced there was fraud. Just too many stories. Bottom one I can't swallow is the 80 million votes received. No way. Anyway, nothings going to be overturned and only a few hold onto that thought. The main point I believe gamble is trying to make is 'How do we validify that future elections will be on the up-n-up. How can anyone believe that they will be? example- why do we not want a valid ID to be shown when voting? It's baffling that anyone would not want this to be SOP. Yet this is a battleground,WHY? Is biden going to legallize 2 million immigrants just for votes? Absolutely, and it sure is hell ain't going to be for humanitarian reasons. Money also buys votes, right? So let's hand some out (Basically talking about student loans). We are making the American people more reliant on hand outs than ever before (not including Covid) and lazier as the clock moves (If that is even possible). We need less government not more. Congress has proven timelessly that they are not up for the job. TERM LIMITS. Appreciate the respectful reply
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Where are the 1000 plus affidavits. Why would people submit these under oath with possibility of committing a felony? Where are they? You need to read up on the legality of affidavits. There is minimal risk for being prosecuted for perjury outside of actual court proceedings (depositions, grand jury proceedings, trial testimonies, Congressional testimonies). In fact, it is extremely rare. Out of these 1000 plus affidavits, how many were attached to Trump's cases in courts? 0. As to why they were not released publicly, ask your boy Giuliani. He is the one that prevented them from being released. The "witnesses" on Trump's side that had their allegations actually heard in court were mostly dismissed or ruled not credible or inadmissible in court. There just isn't anything there Snorkie. Move on.
I actually read a couple articles on this matter and it seemed the common theme was the "credibility" of such. I do agree with what your saying. I believe the main belief that gamble and myself and others are convinced there was fraud. Just too many stories. Bottom one I can't swallow is the 80 million votes received. No way. Anyway, nothings going to be overturned and only a few hold onto that thought. The main point I believe gamble is trying to make is 'How do we validify that future elections will be on the up-n-up. How can anyone believe that they will be? example- why do we not want a valid ID to be shown when voting? It's baffling that anyone would not want this to be SOP. Yet this is a battleground,WHY? Is biden going to legallize 2 million immigrants just for votes? Absolutely, and it sure is hell ain't going to be for humanitarian reasons. Money also buys votes, right? So let's hand some out (Basically talking about student loans). We are making the American people more reliant on hand outs than ever before (not including Covid) and lazier as the clock moves (If that is even possible). We need less government not more. Congress has proven timelessly that they are not up for the job. TERM LIMITS. Appreciate the respectful reply
Where are the 1000 plus affidavits. Why would people submit these under oath with possibility of committing a felony? Where are they?
Trump lawyers haven't filed many affidavits in lawsuits. Judges usually dismiss affidavits because they aren't direct evidences. Often people see something suspicious but not actual wrongdoing or widespread fraud. Since perjury prosecutions are rare, the risk faced by those behind affidavits is relatively minimal.
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
Where are the 1000 plus affidavits. Why would people submit these under oath with possibility of committing a felony? Where are they?
Trump lawyers haven't filed many affidavits in lawsuits. Judges usually dismiss affidavits because they aren't direct evidences. Often people see something suspicious but not actual wrongdoing or widespread fraud. Since perjury prosecutions are rare, the risk faced by those behind affidavits is relatively minimal.
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Where are the 1000 plus affidavits. Why would people submit these under oath with possibility of committing a felony? Where are they? Trump lawyers haven't filed many affidavits in lawsuits. Judges usually dismiss affidavits because they aren't direct evidences. Often people see something suspicious but not actual wrongdoing or widespread fraud. Since perjury prosecutions are rare, the risk faced by those behind affidavits is relatively minimal.
Agree
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Where are the 1000 plus affidavits. Why would people submit these under oath with possibility of committing a felony? Where are they? Trump lawyers haven't filed many affidavits in lawsuits. Judges usually dismiss affidavits because they aren't direct evidences. Often people see something suspicious but not actual wrongdoing or widespread fraud. Since perjury prosecutions are rare, the risk faced by those behind affidavits is relatively minimal.
I actually read a couple articles on this matter and it seemed the common theme was the "credibility" of such. I do agree with what your saying. I believe the main belief that gamble and myself and others are convinced there was fraud. Just too many stories. Bottom one I can't swallow is the 80 million votes received. No way. Anyway, nothings going to be overturned and only a few hold onto that thought. The main point I believe gamble is trying to make is 'How do we validify that future elections will be on the up-n-up. How can anyone believe that they will be? example- why do we not want a valid ID to be shown when voting? It's baffling that anyone would not want this to be SOP. Yet this is a battleground,WHY? Is biden going to legallize 2 million immigrants just for votes? Absolutely, and it sure is hell ain't going to be for humanitarian reasons. Money also buys votes, right? So let's hand some out (Basically talking about student loans). We are making the American people more reliant on hand outs than ever before (not including Covid) and lazier as the clock moves (If that is even possible). We need less government not more. Congress has proven timelessly that they are not up for the job. TERM LIMITS. Appreciate the respectful reply
No disrespect or sarcasm intended with any of these questions.
Why can't you believe that Biden received 80 million votes?
Does that mean you can't believe Trump received 75 million votes either?
The country was in the middle of a pandemic and millions of more citizens used the LEGAL Vote by mail option to cast votes this election cycle. Many people were upset about loss of job, income, and health during pandemic. This likely drove turnout up on the Democratic side and left leaning independents wanting change.
Why do you seem to believe there was only election fraud on one side?
There are always illegal votes cast every election, but it occurs on both sides, and never enough to sway an election (usually not even in the thousands of cases nationwide). In this election there were actually a few Trump supporters documented trying to cast votes as dead relatives. It is never just one way.
Did you voice the same election security concerns and questions after the 2016 election when Trump won?
Why do you think Biden needs to legalize 2 million immigrants to win another election? He didn't need to in order to win in 2020.
As for term limits in Congress, I totally agree with you. We should not have any House Reps or Senators keeping their sets for 30, 40, or 50 years. It is absurd, and why nothing ever gets accomplished. There is no incentive to produce. Incumbents know they are going to keep their seats because of fundraising advantages and name recognition.
I also think there needs to be term limits for Supreme Court Justices. No member of the federal government should have lifetime tenure. That concept is pretty absurd in today's politics.
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Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:
I actually read a couple articles on this matter and it seemed the common theme was the "credibility" of such. I do agree with what your saying. I believe the main belief that gamble and myself and others are convinced there was fraud. Just too many stories. Bottom one I can't swallow is the 80 million votes received. No way. Anyway, nothings going to be overturned and only a few hold onto that thought. The main point I believe gamble is trying to make is 'How do we validify that future elections will be on the up-n-up. How can anyone believe that they will be? example- why do we not want a valid ID to be shown when voting? It's baffling that anyone would not want this to be SOP. Yet this is a battleground,WHY? Is biden going to legallize 2 million immigrants just for votes? Absolutely, and it sure is hell ain't going to be for humanitarian reasons. Money also buys votes, right? So let's hand some out (Basically talking about student loans). We are making the American people more reliant on hand outs than ever before (not including Covid) and lazier as the clock moves (If that is even possible). We need less government not more. Congress has proven timelessly that they are not up for the job. TERM LIMITS. Appreciate the respectful reply
No disrespect or sarcasm intended with any of these questions.
Why can't you believe that Biden received 80 million votes?
Does that mean you can't believe Trump received 75 million votes either?
The country was in the middle of a pandemic and millions of more citizens used the LEGAL Vote by mail option to cast votes this election cycle. Many people were upset about loss of job, income, and health during pandemic. This likely drove turnout up on the Democratic side and left leaning independents wanting change.
Why do you seem to believe there was only election fraud on one side?
There are always illegal votes cast every election, but it occurs on both sides, and never enough to sway an election (usually not even in the thousands of cases nationwide). In this election there were actually a few Trump supporters documented trying to cast votes as dead relatives. It is never just one way.
Did you voice the same election security concerns and questions after the 2016 election when Trump won?
Why do you think Biden needs to legalize 2 million immigrants to win another election? He didn't need to in order to win in 2020.
As for term limits in Congress, I totally agree with you. We should not have any House Reps or Senators keeping their sets for 30, 40, or 50 years. It is absurd, and why nothing ever gets accomplished. There is no incentive to produce. Incumbents know they are going to keep their seats because of fundraising advantages and name recognition.
I also think there needs to be term limits for Supreme Court Justices. No member of the federal government should have lifetime tenure. That concept is pretty absurd in today's politics.
Even though I like biden as a person, It's hard to imagine 80 Mill voting for a guy near dementia. I guess that could answer both the initial sentences on your reply. Both situations were based on trump. Got elected IMO because he was not a politician. Got defeated because people voted against him versus voting for Joe. (understandable both ways)
I realize there will be fraud on both sides (Never said one side) but this years election was to say the least extra-ordinary. As for Trump winning in 2016, I believe the Dems killed themselves when they made Hillary their nominee (Even after stickin it to bernie). She is just un-electable and unlikeable. Secondly, looking for a change from the stagnation.
What you think on the valid ID must be shown to vote? Wouldn't this eliminate 99% of the problems? Mail-in and absentee ballots must be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature.
Not on board with granting 2 million immigrants citizenship. Just another financial burden on the working man. But hey, when is the last time Congress gave a rats ass about spending. Here's an example that really pisses me off. Let me ask you this - If i gave you 10,000 dollars and said "Can i get 100 dollars of that back? You would say NO problem. Well, trump asked congress (And yes i can't say repos wouldn't have done the same) to cut their budget by 1%, Unanimous NO from the dems. I'll lump the repo's in here also to make the point that Congress is worthless when it comes to having average joe's back. Our government is as crooked if not worse than the next country. It's disgraceful and only getting worse.
Gone til tmro- appreciate the banter
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Even though I like biden as a person, It's hard to imagine 80 Mill voting for a guy near dementia. I guess that could answer both the initial sentences on your reply. Both situations were based on trump. Got elected IMO because he was not a politician. Got defeated because people voted against him versus voting for Joe. (understandable both ways)
I realize there will be fraud on both sides (Never said one side) but this years election was to say the least extra-ordinary. As for Trump winning in 2016, I believe the Dems killed themselves when they made Hillary their nominee (Even after stickin it to bernie). She is just un-electable and unlikeable. Secondly, looking for a change from the stagnation.
What you think on the valid ID must be shown to vote? Wouldn't this eliminate 99% of the problems? Mail-in and absentee ballots must be accompanied by a copy of a valid ID with a signature.
Not on board with granting 2 million immigrants citizenship. Just another financial burden on the working man. But hey, when is the last time Congress gave a rats ass about spending. Here's an example that really pisses me off. Let me ask you this - If i gave you 10,000 dollars and said "Can i get 100 dollars of that back? You would say NO problem. Well, trump asked congress (And yes i can't say repos wouldn't have done the same) to cut their budget by 1%, Unanimous NO from the dems. I'll lump the repo's in here also to make the point that Congress is worthless when it comes to having average joe's back. Our government is as crooked if not worse than the next country. It's disgraceful and only getting worse.
I think the Trump election was probably rigged...but once they found out that he might not conform to there way, they (the establishment) did everything in their power to oust him ASAP (aka Russia collusion fake impeachment).
If you don’t want to believe the virus and BLM was part of that equation, fine... but how they used the MSM to vilify him (ending with the complete censorship of his voice) then you are (and not to be crude) lacking basic comprehension skills.
FYI. ”Drain the swamp“ and “term limits” didn’t really sit well with those crooks!
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@DeezyAZ81
Can I answer one question?
I think the Trump election was probably rigged...but once they found out that he might not conform to there way, they (the establishment) did everything in their power to oust him ASAP (aka Russia collusion fake impeachment).
If you don’t want to believe the virus and BLM was part of that equation, fine... but how they used the MSM to vilify him (ending with the complete censorship of his voice) then you are (and not to be crude) lacking basic comprehension skills.
FYI. ”Drain the swamp“ and “term limits” didn’t really sit well with those crooks!
They underestimated the power of Trump why people voted for him. It was because they are useless... unless the new policies benefit them and their lobbyists.
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They underestimated the power of Trump why people voted for him. It was because they are useless... unless the new policies benefit them and their lobbyists.
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