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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 2:02 AM ET #1

    A three week spending gap measure will reopen the government.  Funding will fade Feb 15th unless a larger funding is approved. 

    Trumped signed the legislation on Friday night. Now the much tougher work will have 3 weeks to define the border security DACA dreamers the mounting debt and budgetary concerns needed to support  the monetary needs of the U.S.. 

    Good chance for some of the government workers to find real jobs in the private sector and stop being Mitch and Nancy's pawns in the ongoingpettiness 

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    A three week spending gap measure will reopen the government.  Funding will fade Feb 15th unless a larger funding is approved. 

    Trumped signed the legislation on Friday night. Now the much tougher work will have 3 weeks to define the border security DACA dreamers the mounting debt and budgetary concerns needed to support  the monetary needs of the U.S.. 

    Good chance for some of the government workers to find real jobs in the private sector and stop being Mitch and Nancy's pawns in the ongoingpettiness 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 3:09 AM ET #2

    DJT knew Hartfield, ATl Airport, had to be operating smoothly for NFL's SB Week.....Besides, knowing him..he can't wait for Tuesdays  State of Union opportunity.......


    I thought his Rose Garden  diatribe, overall, was delivered very effectively......great chance for THE two parties to come together and produce some kind of immigration resolution....3 week time clock ticking...Love to see if (D) will actually keep their word..BUT..I highly doubt it..
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    DJT knew Hartfield, ATl Airport, had to be operating smoothly for NFL's SB Week.....Besides, knowing him..he can't wait for Tuesdays  State of Union opportunity.......


    I thought his Rose Garden  diatribe, overall, was delivered very effectively......great chance for THE two parties to come together and produce some kind of immigration resolution....3 week time clock ticking...Love to see if (D) will actually keep their word..BUT..I highly doubt it..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 5:30 AM ET #3

    In an article by jpwagan  Obama stated we need to secure our borders with personal and infrastructure.  Oh how 6 years can change realities in politics.  At the time the republicans scoffed at a wall and democrats.could not be more vocal of creating a barrier to stop illegal immigrants. 

    Now the republicans want the did,democrats can't argue more vehemently against a man made barrier. Trump wants to extend the fence begun with the o Bama administration.... go figure.  Well will get through Valentine's day and be back at congress did nothing and we will have another shutdown...... 

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    In an article by jpwagan  Obama stated we need to secure our borders with personal and infrastructure.  Oh how 6 years can change realities in politics.  At the time the republicans scoffed at a wall and democrats.could not be more vocal of creating a barrier to stop illegal immigrants. 

    Now the republicans want the did,democrats can't argue more vehemently against a man made barrier. Trump wants to extend the fence begun with the o Bama administration.... go figure.  Well will get through Valentine's day and be back at congress did nothing and we will have another shutdown...... 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 5:31 AM ET #4

    July 2012 article politico carried j. Wagan 

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    July 2012 article politico carried j. Wagan 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 1:19 PM ET #5

     Trump is forced to accept temporary budget without wall funding that he rejected in December.  The wall is an undeliverable promise from which there is no exit without humiliation.  Afterwards, Coulter calls Trump the biggest wimp to ever serve as president.  Graham said, "if Trump caves in, it's the end of his presidency."

    Government shutdown is a political losing situation for Trump and republicans.  Most americans blame Trump for shutdown and oppose a wall.  He has failed to convince people of a need for the wall.  His disapproval rating increased and republicans revolted to side with democrats.  He is exposed as a bad negotiator by Pelosi whose approval rating has increased.  Remote chance of wall funding after 3 weeks of negotiations.
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     Trump is forced to accept temporary budget without wall funding that he rejected in December.  The wall is an undeliverable promise from which there is no exit without humiliation.  Afterwards, Coulter calls Trump the biggest wimp to ever serve as president.  Graham said, "if Trump caves in, it's the end of his presidency."

    Government shutdown is a political losing situation for Trump and republicans.  Most americans blame Trump for shutdown and oppose a wall.  He has failed to convince people of a need for the wall.  His disapproval rating increased and republicans revolted to side with democrats.  He is exposed as a bad negotiator by Pelosi whose approval rating has increased.  Remote chance of wall funding after 3 weeks of negotiations.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 3:04 PM ET #6

    Okay he will play along. But Trump does not need congress as o Bama showed during his term congress is a defunct institutional dinosuar. Executive branch through executive action is all that is needed till congress can function again.

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    Okay he will play along. But Trump does not need congress as o Bama showed during his term congress is a defunct institutional dinosuar. Executive branch through executive action is all that is needed till congress can function again.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 3:53 PM ET #7

    It does not matter what trans looking Ann Coulter or McCains former Mini-Me says about the situation..

    This is only a temporary reopening of the federal government for three week...It may appear, that President Trump has lost a battle on border security ..however his goal is to win the war..

    President Trump has been clear..if,at the end of 21 days and there is not funding for wall along the southern border....he may order the Pentagon to build border walls without an emergency declaration.
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    It does not matter what trans looking Ann Coulter or McCains former Mini-Me says about the situation..

    This is only a temporary reopening of the federal government for three week...It may appear, that President Trump has lost a battle on border security ..however his goal is to win the war..

    President Trump has been clear..if,at the end of 21 days and there is not funding for wall along the southern border....he may order the Pentagon to build border walls without an emergency declaration.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 5:15 PM ET #8

    Uh, Slim, don't we pay enough lawyers already? What you suppose is that Trump can just go ahead and do it, if that is what he wants to do. They may throw him a bone in the next three weeks, but if there is another shutdown Mar-A-Lago won't be far enough to run away and hide, and if he absconds from funds not appropriated for the wall it will be "see you in court, Donny". If anything, maybe he learned he was elected president, not emperor or dictator. Where is that "art of the deal" or "I will take responsibility" or  "a shutdown is always the presidents fault"? He even backed out on "The buck stops here". Not any more, he says plenty of people can pass it around. 

    peace 

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    Uh, Slim, don't we pay enough lawyers already? What you suppose is that Trump can just go ahead and do it, if that is what he wants to do. They may throw him a bone in the next three weeks, but if there is another shutdown Mar-A-Lago won't be far enough to run away and hide, and if he absconds from funds not appropriated for the wall it will be "see you in court, Donny". If anything, maybe he learned he was elected president, not emperor or dictator. Where is that "art of the deal" or "I will take responsibility" or  "a shutdown is always the presidents fault"? He even backed out on "The buck stops here". Not any more, he says plenty of people can pass it around. 

    peace 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 6:58 PM ET #9

    Listen KeyElement,,  paraphrasing Rep. Mark Meadows: if President Obama can send $1.8 billion to the Iranians ,that he didn’t appropriate..I'm certain President Trump can find a few billion dollars somewhere to build the wall for border security and do it legally.
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    Listen KeyElement,,  paraphrasing Rep. Mark Meadows: if President Obama can send $1.8 billion to the Iranians ,that he didn’t appropriate..I'm certain President Trump can find a few billion dollars somewhere to build the wall for border security and do it legally.
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 7:17 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by faceoff:

     

    Trump just moving his pawns into place....


    I see it as more as a castling move...The Dems have loaded all their major pieces to the left side of the board and President Trump has castled to the right side of the board..up setting their strategy..
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    Trump just moving his pawns into place....


    I see it as more as a castling move...The Dems have loaded all their major pieces to the left side of the board and President Trump has castled to the right side of the board..up setting their strategy..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 8:36 PM ET #11

    I believe it is the set to why he declares an national emergency, because congress .can not act hence the justification for executive actiins.

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    I believe it is the set to why he declares an national emergency, because congress .can not act hence the justification for executive actiins.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2019 - 9:14 PM ET #12

    I'm really close to burning my MAGA hat. Trump lost my respect. This is like Lincoln surrendering to the south.

     

    If trump loses to the anti-American's when the February deadline comes, I'm done. I'd vote for Hillary, Pelosi, or Obama, at least I know when they fight, they won't back down and bend over in defeat, like trump just did.

     

    The world is watching. Russia, Iran, and China just saw our president look weak and get embarrassed and defeated. I'm about to abandon trump and the party for good. 

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    I'm really close to burning my MAGA hat. Trump lost my respect. This is like Lincoln surrendering to the south.

     

    If trump loses to the anti-American's when the February deadline comes, I'm done. I'd vote for Hillary, Pelosi, or Obama, at least I know when they fight, they won't back down and bend over in defeat, like trump just did.

     

    The world is watching. Russia, Iran, and China just saw our president look weak and get embarrassed and defeated. I'm about to abandon trump and the party for good. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    I'm really close to burning my MAGA hat. Trump lost my respect. This is like Lincoln surrendering to the south.   If trump loses to the anti-American's when the February deadline comes, I'm done. I'd vote for Hillary, Pelosi, or Obama, at least I know when they fight, they won't back down and bend over in defeat, like trump just did.   The world is watching. Russia, Iran, and China just saw our president look weak and get embarrassed and defeated. I'm about to abandon trump and the party for good.

    What took you so freaking long? Was it all the lies? Was it Mexico not paying for the wall? Was it Nancy eating Trump's lunch? Was it Wilbur Ross telling federal employees to get a bank loan until the shutdown was over? Was it the Coast Guard telling their members to babysit or have a garage sale to make money during the shutdown?

    WTF? When you support a racist it's pretty hard to explain that you are not one as well. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    I'm really close to burning my MAGA hat. Trump lost my respect. This is like Lincoln surrendering to the south.   If trump loses to the anti-American's when the February deadline comes, I'm done. I'd vote for Hillary, Pelosi, or Obama, at least I know when they fight, they won't back down and bend over in defeat, like trump just did.   The world is watching. Russia, Iran, and China just saw our president look weak and get embarrassed and defeated. I'm about to abandon trump and the party for good.

    What took you so freaking long? Was it all the lies? Was it Mexico not paying for the wall? Was it Nancy eating Trump's lunch? Was it Wilbur Ross telling federal employees to get a bank loan until the shutdown was over? Was it the Coast Guard telling their members to babysit or have a garage sale to make money during the shutdown?

    WTF? When you support a racist it's pretty hard to explain that you are not one as well. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    I'm really close to burning my MAGA hat. Trump lost my respect. This is like Lincoln surrendering to the south.   If trump loses to the anti-American's when the February deadline comes, I'm done. I'd vote for Hillary, Pelosi, or Obama, at least I know when they fight, they won't back down and bend over in defeat, like trump just did.   The world is watching. Russia, Iran, and China just saw our president look weak and get embarrassed and defeated. I'm about to abandon trump and the party for good.
    I do not believe Trump backs down I do believe he gives his State of the union address stating that if congress doesn't act he has the authority to act with executive decision in declaring a state of emergency and civil unrest

    It seems we dodged a serious bullet that postal workers well didn't go postal and without the massive demonstrations or violence that deep state was intending then this becameanother what show Washington inflicts on the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    I'm really close to burning my MAGA hat. Trump lost my respect. This is like Lincoln surrendering to the south.   If trump loses to the anti-American's when the February deadline comes, I'm done. I'd vote for Hillary, Pelosi, or Obama, at least I know when they fight, they won't back down and bend over in defeat, like trump just did.   The world is watching. Russia, Iran, and China just saw our president look weak and get embarrassed and defeated. I'm about to abandon trump and the party for good.
    I do not believe Trump backs down I do believe he gives his State of the union address stating that if congress doesn't act he has the authority to act with executive decision in declaring a state of emergency and civil unrest

    It seems we dodged a serious bullet that postal workers well didn't go postal and without the massive demonstrations or violence that deep state was intending then this becameanother what show Washington inflicts on the masses.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Listen KeyElement,,  paraphrasing Rep. Mark Meadows: if President Obama can send $1.8 billion to the Iranians ,that he didn’t appropriate..I'm certain President Trump can find a few billion dollars somewhere to build the wall for border security and do it legally..What'd Ya say ?
    Oh boy, all these years and you never got that straight, huh? Obama did not send any U.S. money, appropriated or not, to the Iranians. IT WAS ALL THEIR OWN MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. All Obama did was to release impounded funds (frozen assets) that already belonged to the Iranians. Wake up, smell the coffee, smell the roses.

    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Listen KeyElement,,  paraphrasing Rep. Mark Meadows: if President Obama can send $1.8 billion to the Iranians ,that he didn’t appropriate..I'm certain President Trump can find a few billion dollars somewhere to build the wall for border security and do it legally..What'd Ya say ?
    Oh boy, all these years and you never got that straight, huh? Obama did not send any U.S. money, appropriated or not, to the Iranians. IT WAS ALL THEIR OWN MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. All Obama did was to release impounded funds (frozen assets) that already belonged to the Iranians. Wake up, smell the coffee, smell the roses.

    peace

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2019 - 6:27 PM ET #16

    Not sure gave off but I think maybe  .... key does not sound right these days...all those tithes .... yet it seems the church can not keep a dime saved away. 

    Possible she might have togo to the home early if this mental episode continues untreated. 

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    Not sure gave off but I think maybe  .... key does not sound right these days...all those tithes .... yet it seems the church can not keep a dime saved away. 

    Possible she might have togo to the home early if this mental episode continues untreated. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Oh boy, all these years and you never got that straight, huh? Obama did not send any U.S. money, appropriated or not, to the Iranians. IT WAS ALL THEIR OWN MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. All Obama did was to release impounded funds (frozen assets) that already belonged to the Iranians. Wake up, smell the coffee, smell the roses.

    peace


     ||fingershake.gif' border=0>   Not that money.....that was ransom money.....a quid pro quo payment..

    ...and was American taxpayer money...that the Obama administration tapped into the Treasury Department’s Judgment Fund, a federal account that has been used by the executive branch to settle international legal claims.

    The Judgment Fund is fueled by taxpayer dollars, run by the Treasury Department..

    In fact the whole deal with the cash transfer was illegal...President Obama engaged in the complex cash transfer in order to end-run sanctions that prohibit the U.S. from having “a banking relationship with Iran.”..that violated the law.

    Pour self another cup of java and get back with me...

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    Oh boy, all these years and you never got that straight, huh? Obama did not send any U.S. money, appropriated or not, to the Iranians. IT WAS ALL THEIR OWN MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. All Obama did was to release impounded funds (frozen assets) that already belonged to the Iranians. Wake up, smell the coffee, smell the roses.

    peace


     ||fingershake.gif' border=0>   Not that money.....that was ransom money.....a quid pro quo payment..

    ...and was American taxpayer money...that the Obama administration tapped into the Treasury Department’s Judgment Fund, a federal account that has been used by the executive branch to settle international legal claims.

    The Judgment Fund is fueled by taxpayer dollars, run by the Treasury Department..

    In fact the whole deal with the cash transfer was illegal...President Obama engaged in the complex cash transfer in order to end-run sanctions that prohibit the U.S. from having “a banking relationship with Iran.”..that violated the law.

    Pour self another cup of java and get back with me...

     
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    Midnight - for trump to surrender the promise of a memorial wall along the border to honor Molly Tibbitts, Pierce Corcoran, and Ronil Singn and the thousands of other patriots was my breaking point. The families of dead patriots are depending on him and he let them all down. To all you Kkkrats... the dead aren't "anomalies" or "anecdotes" as you sick things like to lable'em. They are real people separated from their families for life. 

     

     

    Nature - Trump surrendered. The state of emergency tactic is a sad attempt to save face and will take over a year to claim victory. Even if trump wins in a year using the supreme court, the anti-American krats made trump surrender. I believe civil war 2 is over. The kkkrats won. 

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    Midnight - for trump to surrender the promise of a memorial wall along the border to honor Molly Tibbitts, Pierce Corcoran, and Ronil Singn and the thousands of other patriots was my breaking point. The families of dead patriots are depending on him and he let them all down. To all you Kkkrats... the dead aren't "anomalies" or "anecdotes" as you sick things like to lable'em. They are real people separated from their families for life. 

     

     

    Nature - Trump surrendered. The state of emergency tactic is a sad attempt to save face and will take over a year to claim victory. Even if trump wins in a year using the supreme court, the anti-American krats made trump surrender. I believe civil war 2 is over. The kkkrats won. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Midnight - for trump to surrender the promise of a memorial wall along the border to honor Molly Tibbitts, Pierce Corcoran, and Ronil Singn and the thousands of other patriots was my breaking point. The families of dead patriots are depending on him and he let them all down. To all you Kkkrats... the dead aren't "anomalies" or "anecdotes" as you sick things like to lable'em. They are real people separated from their families for life.      Nature - Trump surrendered. The state of emergency tactic is a sad attempt to save face and will take over a year to claim victory. Even if trump wins in a year using the supreme court, the anti-American krats made trump surrender. I believe civil war 2 is over. The kkkrats won.
    the saddest thing,  he is THE only hope we have.

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    Midnight - for trump to surrender the promise of a memorial wall along the border to honor Molly Tibbitts, Pierce Corcoran, and Ronil Singn and the thousands of other patriots was my breaking point. The families of dead patriots are depending on him and he let them all down. To all you Kkkrats... the dead aren't "anomalies" or "anecdotes" as you sick things like to lable'em. They are real people separated from their families for life.      Nature - Trump surrendered. The state of emergency tactic is a sad attempt to save face and will take over a year to claim victory. Even if trump wins in a year using the supreme court, the anti-American krats made trump surrender. I believe civil war 2 is over. The kkkrats won.
    the saddest thing,  he is THE only hope we have.

     
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    Trump is forced to accept temporary budget without wall funding that he rejected in December.  The wall is an undeliverable promise from which there is no exit without humiliation.  Afterwards, Coulter calls Trump the biggest wimp to ever serve as president.  Graham said, "if Trump caves in, it's the end of his presidency." Government shutdown is a political losing situation for Trump and republicans.  Most americans blame Trump for shutdown and oppose a wall.  He has failed to convince people of a need for the wall.  His disapproval rating increased and republicans revolted to side with democrats.  He is exposed as a bad negotiator by Pelosi whose approval rating has increased.  Remote chance of wall funding after 3 weeks of negotiations.
    did Iran destroy our embassy? Did they kidnap our diplomats and their families? Did we lose military personal and two helicopters in the process did they hold these citizens for over a year. By rights we acquired their property here. Then it became our property which we sold and spent during Reagan.  We owe them nothing. 

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    Trump is forced to accept temporary budget without wall funding that he rejected in December.  The wall is an undeliverable promise from which there is no exit without humiliation.  Afterwards, Coulter calls Trump the biggest wimp to ever serve as president.  Graham said, "if Trump caves in, it's the end of his presidency." Government shutdown is a political losing situation for Trump and republicans.  Most americans blame Trump for shutdown and oppose a wall.  He has failed to convince people of a need for the wall.  His disapproval rating increased and republicans revolted to side with democrats.  He is exposed as a bad negotiator by Pelosi whose approval rating has increased.  Remote chance of wall funding after 3 weeks of negotiations.
    did Iran destroy our embassy? Did they kidnap our diplomats and their families? Did we lose military personal and two helicopters in the process did they hold these citizens for over a year. By rights we acquired their property here. Then it became our property which we sold and spent during Reagan.  We owe them nothing. 

     
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    Wall street journal reports tommorows paper.

    Trump," I do not believe Congress will reach a deal to fund the government by Feb 15th, I will declare a state of emergency fund the government workers and build the wall."

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    Wall street journal reports tommorows paper.

    Trump," I do not believe Congress will reach a deal to fund the government by Feb 15th, I will declare a state of emergency fund the government workers and build the wall."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Wall street journal reports tommorows paper.

    Trump," I do not believe Congress will reach a deal to fund the government by Feb 15th, I will declare a state of emergency fund the government workers and build the wall."


    If this happens trump can kiss 2020 goodbye.
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    Wall street journal reports tommorows paper.

    Trump," I do not believe Congress will reach a deal to fund the government by Feb 15th, I will declare a state of emergency fund the government workers and build the wall."


    If this happens trump can kiss 2020 goodbye.
     
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    To be honest I believe that ship has already sailed.  I am sure Trump recognizes his one term. Plans do all he can to keep his campaign pledges if he does Great he is done. If he doesn't still did not matter the pendulum and momentum of we remember in November the me too movement, the endless parade of associates going down in indictments. And his entire arrogance of the entitled life he has always led leads to him vacating 1600 Pennsylvania ave.

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    To be honest I believe that ship has already sailed.  I am sure Trump recognizes his one term. Plans do all he can to keep his campaign pledges if he does Great he is done. If he doesn't still did not matter the pendulum and momentum of we remember in November the me too movement, the endless parade of associates going down in indictments. And his entire arrogance of the entitled life he has always led leads to him vacating 1600 Pennsylvania ave.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    To be honest I believe that ship has already sailed.  I am sure Trump recognizes his one term. Plans do all he can to keep his campaign pledges if he does Great he is done. If he doesn't still did not matter the pendulum and momentum of we remember in November the me too movement, the endless parade of associates going down in indictments. And his entire arrogance of the entitled life he has always led leads to him vacating 1600 Pennsylvania ave.

    That is the day that MAGA will have true meaning.

    Just a clown... doing clown things
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    To be honest I believe that ship has already sailed.  I am sure Trump recognizes his one term. Plans do all he can to keep his campaign pledges if he does Great he is done. If he doesn't still did not matter the pendulum and momentum of we remember in November the me too movement, the endless parade of associates going down in indictments. And his entire arrogance of the entitled life he has always led leads to him vacating 1600 Pennsylvania ave.

    That is the day that MAGA will have true meaning.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Midnight - for trump to surrender the promise of a memorial wall along the border to honor Molly Tibbitts, Pierce Corcoran, and Ronil Singn and the thousands of other patriots was my breaking point. The families of dead patriots are depending on him and he let them all down. To all you Kkkrats... the dead aren't "anomalies" or "anecdotes" as you sick things like to lable'em. They are real people separated from their families for life.      Nature - Trump surrendered. The state of emergency tactic is a sad attempt to save face and will take over a year to claim victory. Even if trump wins in a year using the supreme court, the anti-American krats made trump surrender. I believe civil war 2 is over. The kkkrats won.
    the saddest thing,  he is THE only hope we have.
    I agree 100 percent. He is our only hope. And he blew any chance he had at defeating Beto or Castro by surrendering. I don't know why Harris is the favorite right now. She has zero chance. She has no it factor or charisma nor the orator skills to win. Krats are gonna flip Texas and win and that will be the end of the United States. I've known this since 2013.

     

    Once globalists and illegals own California and Texas, that's check mate. We'll be a country of illegals, hipsters, effeminates, feminists, pc police, thugs, communists, globalists, muslims and genderless freaks. Alpha patriots are about to go extinct like the dinosaurs. The only thing that gives me relief is I'll be dead before the complete transformation. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Midnight - for trump to surrender the promise of a memorial wall along the border to honor Molly Tibbitts, Pierce Corcoran, and Ronil Singn and the thousands of other patriots was my breaking point. The families of dead patriots are depending on him and he let them all down. To all you Kkkrats... the dead aren't "anomalies" or "anecdotes" as you sick things like to lable'em. They are real people separated from their families for life.      Nature - Trump surrendered. The state of emergency tactic is a sad attempt to save face and will take over a year to claim victory. Even if trump wins in a year using the supreme court, the anti-American krats made trump surrender. I believe civil war 2 is over. The kkkrats won.
    the saddest thing,  he is THE only hope we have.
    I agree 100 percent. He is our only hope. And he blew any chance he had at defeating Beto or Castro by surrendering. I don't know why Harris is the favorite right now. She has zero chance. She has no it factor or charisma nor the orator skills to win. Krats are gonna flip Texas and win and that will be the end of the United States. I've known this since 2013.

     

    Once globalists and illegals own California and Texas, that's check mate. We'll be a country of illegals, hipsters, effeminates, feminists, pc police, thugs, communists, globalists, muslims and genderless freaks. Alpha patriots are about to go extinct like the dinosaurs. The only thing that gives me relief is I'll be dead before the complete transformation. 

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