What is the most annoying is how many and some in this thread actually try and portray Trump as a good leader and someone to admire.
I dont care if Clinton was awful, yeah she was and is...but that has nothing to do with validating this piece of crap president. Why is it so difficult for one party to just come to terms with the fact that their guy is awful, he is a really disgusting person but he was elected and so we are stuck with him.
There is no admiration of this bully, there is very little positive to him at all. He lied to his followers to gain their votes but what shocks me like nothing else is how the guy right in front of your face acted like such a total waste, all through the campaign and still now, he acts like such a disgusting person and you STILL not only voted for him, but try and portray him for something he is not.
Trump is the most disgusting leader this country has ever been stuck with, he is a smug, petty, abusive, derisive, elitist jerk.
Not being able to come to terms with this makes anyone who supports him come off as a partisan lemming, in order to get your political positions forward you are trying to actually validate this awful person.
What is the most annoying is how many and some in this thread actually try and portray Trump as a good leader and someone to admire.
I dont care if Clinton was awful, yeah she was and is...but that has nothing to do with validating this piece of crap president. Why is it so difficult for one party to just come to terms with the fact that their guy is awful, he is a really disgusting person but he was elected and so we are stuck with him.
There is no admiration of this bully, there is very little positive to him at all. He lied to his followers to gain their votes but what shocks me like nothing else is how the guy right in front of your face acted like such a total waste, all through the campaign and still now, he acts like such a disgusting person and you STILL not only voted for him, but try and portray him for something he is not.
Trump is the most disgusting leader this country has ever been stuck with, he is a smug, petty, abusive, derisive, elitist jerk.
Not being able to come to terms with this makes anyone who supports him come off as a partisan lemming, in order to get your political positions forward you are trying to actually validate this awful person.
WallStreetCappers , you have shown your disdain for our president in previous threads. Imagine the turmoil if the right had shown this kind of anger and outrage over the last commander in chief. Give this man the chance to improve the country.
This statement of yours is way over the top..Trump is the most disgusting leader this country has ever been stuck with, he is a smug, petty, abusive, derisive, elitist jerk. Typical hysteria
Can't recall any protests, rioting on campuses, fighting with the police, shooting of congressmen, looting, destroying property and the burning of our American flag. There were no Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi's spewing the same old tired impeachment rhetoric He will never be impeached, deal with that. We, and I mean conservatives, did what generations before us have done. We respected the law of the land and went about our lives and supporting our families. Noone that I know, had the time to miss work for nonsense. When has the press ever using derogatory words against the last president nor any member of his family.
President Trump is not a politician and that's why people said enough is enough. We wanted something different than the same old tired politician.. We stand behind President Trump and support and embrace law enforcement and our military This president will not tie the hands of our fighting men and women and he will restore the pride and respect America once had as a nation. Thankfully the failed policies of the last president are in the process of being corrected.
WallStreetCappers , you have shown your disdain for our president in previous threads. Imagine the turmoil if the right had shown this kind of anger and outrage over the last commander in chief. Give this man the chance to improve the country.
This statement of yours is way over the top..Trump is the most disgusting leader this country has ever been stuck with, he is a smug, petty, abusive, derisive, elitist jerk. Typical hysteria
Can't recall any protests, rioting on campuses, fighting with the police, shooting of congressmen, looting, destroying property and the burning of our American flag. There were no Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi's spewing the same old tired impeachment rhetoric He will never be impeached, deal with that. We, and I mean conservatives, did what generations before us have done. We respected the law of the land and went about our lives and supporting our families. Noone that I know, had the time to miss work for nonsense. When has the press ever using derogatory words against the last president nor any member of his family.
President Trump is not a politician and that's why people said enough is enough. We wanted something different than the same old tired politician.. We stand behind President Trump and support and embrace law enforcement and our military This president will not tie the hands of our fighting men and women and he will restore the pride and respect America once had as a nation. Thankfully the failed policies of the last president are in the process of being corrected.
So the Pew Research Center in Washington DC,. a non-partisan fact based think tank, had this to say on June 26.
"According to a new Pew Research Center survey spanning 37 nations, a median of just 22% has confidence in Trump to do the right thing when it comes to international affairs. This stands in contrast to the final years of Barack Obama’s presidency, when a median of 64% expressed confidence in Trump’s predecessor to direct America’s role in the world. The sharp decline in how much global publics trust the U.S. president on the world stage is especially pronounced among some of America’s closest allies in Europe and Asia, as well as neighboring Mexico and Canada. Across the 37 nations polled, Trump gets higher marks than Obama in only two countries: Russia and Israel."
Is this survey media BS as well?
Although, I question the Pew Research Center's research methodology...lets say it's accurate and the median of 64% expressed confidence in Obama to direct America’s role in the world more than President Trump.....It has more to do with Obama going around the world constantly apologizing for America and bowing to foreign leaders and dictators..like a subservient subordinate.. Now,, President has the challenging job of restoration America's standing in the world...and he will.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
So the Pew Research Center in Washington DC,. a non-partisan fact based think tank, had this to say on June 26.
"According to a new Pew Research Center survey spanning 37 nations, a median of just 22% has confidence in Trump to do the right thing when it comes to international affairs. This stands in contrast to the final years of Barack Obama’s presidency, when a median of 64% expressed confidence in Trump’s predecessor to direct America’s role in the world. The sharp decline in how much global publics trust the U.S. president on the world stage is especially pronounced among some of America’s closest allies in Europe and Asia, as well as neighboring Mexico and Canada. Across the 37 nations polled, Trump gets higher marks than Obama in only two countries: Russia and Israel."
Is this survey media BS as well?
Although, I question the Pew Research Center's research methodology...lets say it's accurate and the median of 64% expressed confidence in Obama to direct America’s role in the world more than President Trump.....It has more to do with Obama going around the world constantly apologizing for America and bowing to foreign leaders and dictators..like a subservient subordinate.. Now,, President has the challenging job of restoration America's standing in the world...and he will.
WallStreetCappers , you have shown your disdain for our president in previous threads. Imagine the turmoil if the right had shown this kind of anger and outrage over the last commander in chief. Give this man the chance to improve the country.
This statement of yours is way over the top..Trump is the most disgusting leader this country has ever been stuck with, he is a smug, petty, abusive, derisive, elitist jerk. Typical hysteria
Can't recall any protests, rioting on campuses, fighting with the police, shooting of congressmen, looting, destroying property and the burning of our American flag. There were no Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi's spewing the same old tired impeachment rhetoric He will never be impeached, deal with that. We, and I mean conservatives, did what generations before us have done. We respected the law of the land and went about our lives and supporting our families. Noone that I know, had the time to miss work for nonsense. When has the press ever using derogatory words against the last president nor any member of his family.
President Trump is not a politician and that's why people said enough is enough. We wanted something different than the same old tired politician.. We stand behind President Trump and support and embrace law enforcement and our military This president will not tie the hands of our fighting men and women and he will restore the pride and respect America once had as a nation. Thankfully the failed policies of the last president are in the process of being corrected.
Right on
Trump happened to be the alpha that was chosen to be POTUS.
Respect the police
Respect the military
Respect the US flag
Respect the founding fathers
Respect the 2nd amendment
Stand against BLM
Stand against illegals
Stand against rioting
Stand against vandalism
Stand against arson
Stand against Islam
Speak out against PC culture
Speak out against thug culture
Speak out on black on black crime
Speak out against globalism
Speak out against regulation
Be proud of our countries history
Believe in American exceptionalism
Anyone who believes in these values has my support.
Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:
WallStreetCappers , you have shown your disdain for our president in previous threads. Imagine the turmoil if the right had shown this kind of anger and outrage over the last commander in chief. Give this man the chance to improve the country.
This statement of yours is way over the top..Trump is the most disgusting leader this country has ever been stuck with, he is a smug, petty, abusive, derisive, elitist jerk. Typical hysteria
Can't recall any protests, rioting on campuses, fighting with the police, shooting of congressmen, looting, destroying property and the burning of our American flag. There were no Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi's spewing the same old tired impeachment rhetoric He will never be impeached, deal with that. We, and I mean conservatives, did what generations before us have done. We respected the law of the land and went about our lives and supporting our families. Noone that I know, had the time to miss work for nonsense. When has the press ever using derogatory words against the last president nor any member of his family.
President Trump is not a politician and that's why people said enough is enough. We wanted something different than the same old tired politician.. We stand behind President Trump and support and embrace law enforcement and our military This president will not tie the hands of our fighting men and women and he will restore the pride and respect America once had as a nation. Thankfully the failed policies of the last president are in the process of being corrected.
Right on
Trump happened to be the alpha that was chosen to be POTUS.
Respect the police
Respect the military
Respect the US flag
Respect the founding fathers
Respect the 2nd amendment
Stand against BLM
Stand against illegals
Stand against rioting
Stand against vandalism
Stand against arson
Stand against Islam
Speak out against PC culture
Speak out against thug culture
Speak out on black on black crime
Speak out against globalism
Speak out against regulation
Be proud of our countries history
Believe in American exceptionalism
Anyone who believes in these values has my support.
What is the most annoying is how many and some in this thread actually try and portray Trump as a good leader and someone to admire.
I dont care if Clinton was awful, yeah she was and is...but that has nothing to do with validating this piece of crap president. Why is it so difficult for one party to just come to terms with the fact that their guy is awful, he is a really disgusting person but he was elected and so we are stuck with him.
There is no admiration of this bully, there is very little positive to him at all. He lied to his followers to gain their votes but what shocks me like nothing else is how the guy right in front of your face acted like such a total waste, all through the campaign and still now, he acts like such a disgusting person and you STILL not only voted for him, but try and portray him for something he is not.
Trump is the most disgusting leader this country has ever been stuck with, he is a smug, petty, abusive, derisive, elitist jerk.
Not being able to come to terms with this makes anyone who supports him come off as a partisan lemming, in order to get your political positions forward you are trying to actually validate this awful person.
WSC, you're entitled to your 'own' opinion, respectfully so; unfortunately 63m voters do not share your point of view, there are two sides to a coin, and you sir, are "one sided" to the max, meaning: you're a living breathing, card holding liberated Democrat, okay, to each his own, (I wouldn't have expected anything less), but realistically, you're talking about the president of the USA in a very distasteful manor, that is of opinion, other than fact.....love him, or hate him, he's 'our' president, this includes yourself; enjoy the next 7.5 years of the Trump administration, the best has yet to come. (one way or another)
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
What is the most annoying is how many and some in this thread actually try and portray Trump as a good leader and someone to admire.
I dont care if Clinton was awful, yeah she was and is...but that has nothing to do with validating this piece of crap president. Why is it so difficult for one party to just come to terms with the fact that their guy is awful, he is a really disgusting person but he was elected and so we are stuck with him.
There is no admiration of this bully, there is very little positive to him at all. He lied to his followers to gain their votes but what shocks me like nothing else is how the guy right in front of your face acted like such a total waste, all through the campaign and still now, he acts like such a disgusting person and you STILL not only voted for him, but try and portray him for something he is not.
Trump is the most disgusting leader this country has ever been stuck with, he is a smug, petty, abusive, derisive, elitist jerk.
Not being able to come to terms with this makes anyone who supports him come off as a partisan lemming, in order to get your political positions forward you are trying to actually validate this awful person.
WSC, you're entitled to your 'own' opinion, respectfully so; unfortunately 63m voters do not share your point of view, there are two sides to a coin, and you sir, are "one sided" to the max, meaning: you're a living breathing, card holding liberated Democrat, okay, to each his own, (I wouldn't have expected anything less), but realistically, you're talking about the president of the USA in a very distasteful manor, that is of opinion, other than fact.....love him, or hate him, he's 'our' president, this includes yourself; enjoy the next 7.5 years of the Trump administration, the best has yet to come. (one way or another)
WSC, you're entitled to your 'own' opinion, respectfully so; unfortunately 63m voters do not share your point of view, there are two sides to a coin, and you sir, are "one sided" to the max, meaning: you're a living breathing, card holding liberated Democrat, okay, to each his own, (I wouldn't have expected anything less), but realistically, you're talking about the president of the USA in a very distasteful manor, that is of opinion, other than fact.....love him, or hate him, he's 'our' president, this includes yourself; enjoy the next 7.5 years of the Trump administration, the best has yet to come. (one way or another)
You need go no further than both parties "reactions" to the elections (with live action emoji's to make it fun!):
Conservatives:
Obama is POTUS - Oh well, time to get back to work to support my family.
Trump is POTUS - Oh well, time to get back to work to support my family.
Lefties/Socialists:
Obama is POTUS -
Trump is POTUS - - OH NOOO!!!! My welfare/unemployment/disability check!!! My government issued benefits!!! What will I do!!! NOT MY PRESIDENT!!! Where's my gas mask and picket sign!!!!!
Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:
WSC, you're entitled to your 'own' opinion, respectfully so; unfortunately 63m voters do not share your point of view, there are two sides to a coin, and you sir, are "one sided" to the max, meaning: you're a living breathing, card holding liberated Democrat, okay, to each his own, (I wouldn't have expected anything less), but realistically, you're talking about the president of the USA in a very distasteful manor, that is of opinion, other than fact.....love him, or hate him, he's 'our' president, this includes yourself; enjoy the next 7.5 years of the Trump administration, the best has yet to come. (one way or another)
You need go no further than both parties "reactions" to the elections (with live action emoji's to make it fun!):
Conservatives:
Obama is POTUS - Oh well, time to get back to work to support my family.
Trump is POTUS - Oh well, time to get back to work to support my family.
Lefties/Socialists:
Obama is POTUS -
Trump is POTUS - - OH NOOO!!!! My welfare/unemployment/disability check!!! My government issued benefits!!! What will I do!!! NOT MY PRESIDENT!!! Where's my gas mask and picket sign!!!!!
Trump does not deserve more of a chance than any other politician, he was elected and is required to serve this country..not his families business interests.
Notice something...nowhere in my criticism of Trump do I mention right vs left, yet notice in every reply to mine and most in other threads, its always right vs left...or Obama was not treated as poorly or Clinton is worse..always a rebuttal about relative performance or flaws.
My comments are ONLY about Trump, 100% about him and him alone. I am not throwing the GOP into this because in reality he is not a Republican any more than Sanders is a Democrat. Trump was elected under the GOP party, but he has a long history of siding with whatever political party suits his business interests the most and that is the bottom line.
Trump as a person, as a leader based on his actions, his decisions, his flaws is all I described. It has nothing to do with his current political affiliation nor the office he holds. The office DEMANDS a certain level of respect, candor and effort, it is not the reverse where the HOLDER of the office gets those things automatically.
Trump has earned zero respect, he has not earned the right to demand anything from US citizens. Maybe if he dropped his shallow ego and stopped fighting with the media he could start acting like the leader of this country and people would respect him more.
LRM,
Trump does not deserve more of a chance than any other politician, he was elected and is required to serve this country..not his families business interests.
Notice something...nowhere in my criticism of Trump do I mention right vs left, yet notice in every reply to mine and most in other threads, its always right vs left...or Obama was not treated as poorly or Clinton is worse..always a rebuttal about relative performance or flaws.
My comments are ONLY about Trump, 100% about him and him alone. I am not throwing the GOP into this because in reality he is not a Republican any more than Sanders is a Democrat. Trump was elected under the GOP party, but he has a long history of siding with whatever political party suits his business interests the most and that is the bottom line.
Trump as a person, as a leader based on his actions, his decisions, his flaws is all I described. It has nothing to do with his current political affiliation nor the office he holds. The office DEMANDS a certain level of respect, candor and effort, it is not the reverse where the HOLDER of the office gets those things automatically.
Trump has earned zero respect, he has not earned the right to demand anything from US citizens. Maybe if he dropped his shallow ego and stopped fighting with the media he could start acting like the leader of this country and people would respect him more.
If, Hillary Clinton and is so horrible and you don't like her ...and President Trump is such a disgusting person..who was it, that was better than these two and got your vote in the 2016 Presidential election ?
WSC,
If, Hillary Clinton and is so horrible and you don't like her ...and President Trump is such a disgusting person..who was it, that was better than these two and got your vote in the 2016 Presidential election ?
Trump does not deserve more of a chance than any other politician, he was elected and is required to serve this country..not his families business interests.
Notice something...nowhere in my criticism of Trump do I mention right vs left, yet notice in every reply to mine and most in other threads, its always right vs left...or Obama was not treated as poorly or Clinton is worse..always a rebuttal about relative performance or flaws.
My comments are ONLY about Trump, 100% about him and him alone. I am not throwing the GOP into this because in reality he is not a Republican any more than Sanders is a Democrat. Trump was elected under the GOP party, but he has a long history of siding with whatever political party suits his business interests the most and that is the bottom line.
Trump as a person, as a leader based on his actions, his decisions, his flaws is all I described. It has nothing to do with his current political affiliation nor the office he holds. The office DEMANDS a certain level of respect, candor and effort, it is not the reverse where the HOLDER of the office gets those things automatically.
Trump has earned zero respect, he has not earned the right to demand anything from US citizens. Maybe if he dropped his shallow ego and stopped fighting with the media he could start acting like the leader of this country and people would respect him more.
Hey Wall..I understand the feelings you typed and the freedom to do so..but let me remind you...THE NSA is watching all OUR posts
Govern your actions accordingly..I would hate to see anything "detrimental" happen to Covers....
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
LRM,
Trump does not deserve more of a chance than any other politician, he was elected and is required to serve this country..not his families business interests.
Notice something...nowhere in my criticism of Trump do I mention right vs left, yet notice in every reply to mine and most in other threads, its always right vs left...or Obama was not treated as poorly or Clinton is worse..always a rebuttal about relative performance or flaws.
My comments are ONLY about Trump, 100% about him and him alone. I am not throwing the GOP into this because in reality he is not a Republican any more than Sanders is a Democrat. Trump was elected under the GOP party, but he has a long history of siding with whatever political party suits his business interests the most and that is the bottom line.
Trump as a person, as a leader based on his actions, his decisions, his flaws is all I described. It has nothing to do with his current political affiliation nor the office he holds. The office DEMANDS a certain level of respect, candor and effort, it is not the reverse where the HOLDER of the office gets those things automatically.
Trump has earned zero respect, he has not earned the right to demand anything from US citizens. Maybe if he dropped his shallow ego and stopped fighting with the media he could start acting like the leader of this country and people would respect him more.
Hey Wall..I understand the feelings you typed and the freedom to do so..but let me remind you...THE NSA is watching all OUR posts
Govern your actions accordingly..I would hate to see anything "detrimental" happen to Covers....
Why are you deflecting and a better question is why are you ignoring Trump and his deplorable behavior?
Dont fall back and compare the two, that is weak..deal with Trump only and quit trying to rationalize or minimize his disgusting choices.
Obviously I do ..that's why I asked. What politician that ran for President in 2016.. was one that you think was honorable and not deplorable ?
,,,,,,,as far as President Trump...progressive socialism/liberalism needed to be stopped for the good of the country..whereas President Trump lacked decorum he is seen as a fighter by the people that voted for him..and a fighter is what the right needed to win the election..
McCain with his cooperative reach across the aisle style didn't work nor did Romney's good manners and propriety ( lost him the last two debates ) and the election..
For years the left was the only side engaged in fighting the culture war in this country...and took down anyone who stood in their way ..going by the rules of Saul Alinsky... the right side was losing the war because the left was the only side fighting this war.
Now, with President Donald Trump, this has all come to an end. He's a fighter playing by there rules..when they go low he goes lower..and is beating them at their own game..
He may be rude ,crude and at times demeaning .nevertheless he's a fighter and a fighter is what the people that voted for him wanted .. and I will compare the two.... with Hillary you never knew what was real ..as with our present President you knew exactly what you were going to get...and he is fighting his way and winning against the #NeverTrumpers..like yourself..
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Who cares?
Why are you deflecting and a better question is why are you ignoring Trump and his deplorable behavior?
Dont fall back and compare the two, that is weak..deal with Trump only and quit trying to rationalize or minimize his disgusting choices.
Obviously I do ..that's why I asked. What politician that ran for President in 2016.. was one that you think was honorable and not deplorable ?
,,,,,,,as far as President Trump...progressive socialism/liberalism needed to be stopped for the good of the country..whereas President Trump lacked decorum he is seen as a fighter by the people that voted for him..and a fighter is what the right needed to win the election..
McCain with his cooperative reach across the aisle style didn't work nor did Romney's good manners and propriety ( lost him the last two debates ) and the election..
For years the left was the only side engaged in fighting the culture war in this country...and took down anyone who stood in their way ..going by the rules of Saul Alinsky... the right side was losing the war because the left was the only side fighting this war.
Now, with President Donald Trump, this has all come to an end. He's a fighter playing by there rules..when they go low he goes lower..and is beating them at their own game..
He may be rude ,crude and at times demeaning .nevertheless he's a fighter and a fighter is what the people that voted for him wanted .. and I will compare the two.... with Hillary you never knew what was real ..as with our present President you knew exactly what you were going to get...and he is fighting his way and winning against the #NeverTrumpers..like yourself..
In fact: The Trump administration has not deported 50 per cent of MS-13 gang members. As Politifact notes, the U.S. government said in April that there were about 10,000 MS-13 members in the the country; as of late June, just 2,800 members of any gang had been deported in the 2017 fiscal year, which began all the way back in October. So Trump is exaggerating even if every single gang member deported was a member of MS-13, which they were not.
How much has the MS13 gang been reduced in NY? ?? Here's something to chew on....
June 28
“MS-13 is a prime target. They are bad people. And we've gotten many of them out already. You know, we're pretty much at the 50 per cent mark.”
In fact: The Trump administration has not deported 50 per cent of MS-13 gang members. As Politifact notes, the U.S. government said in April that there were about 10,000 MS-13 members in the the country; as of late June, just 2,800 members of any gang had been deported in the 2017 fiscal year, which began all the way back in October. So Trump is exaggerating even if every single gang member deported was a member of MS-13, which they were not.
What you said is the exact rationalization that I know your side uses...that yeah the guy is a schmuck but he will stop that evil liberalism whatever the crap that means.
To answer your question, I consider both candidates equally poisonous and deplorable, but Clinton is different in the slime she is. Trump is a classless, crude, disgusting person who knows no bounds to his little ego and to whom he will attack in public. I think the office deserves a better "person" than Trump ever could be. He makes this country look classless like he is, he is telling millions of citizens it is ok to be a jerk to someone you disagree with and to abuse women, minorities, anyone he feels like and that is beneath the office. Clinton for sure was a better figure head for this country than Trump ever could be.
And in reality I think the leadership qualities and "class" that Clinton has carries more value than the narrow ultra-conservative self interests you have and why you voted for Trump.
Clinton is an ice-cold lady, she is devious and I am sure she knows no boundaries to what she will do in private to forward her cause...but I also think Trump is similar in that aspect.
So given my opinion of the office, the importance of public perception and leadership, diplomacy and that I am not in support of many of the ultra-right pillars I would choose Clinton..not that I think she is a good candidate, the only good candidate was Sanders. The repub side was horrible, and I thought the last cycle couldnt be worse, well this was for sure.
I am not in support of a war defense spender, I am not in support of many of his decisions (keystone for sure is a biggie) and I do not think he is any different than any other politician...being brash and crude and a loud mouth does not make you a leader or a fighter of a good cause. Trump is a fighter for sure, he is a big mouth coward fighter who will put down and abuse anyone that does not agree with him. That is a dirty fighter and a person not deserving of the office.
SS,
What you said is the exact rationalization that I know your side uses...that yeah the guy is a schmuck but he will stop that evil liberalism whatever the crap that means.
To answer your question, I consider both candidates equally poisonous and deplorable, but Clinton is different in the slime she is. Trump is a classless, crude, disgusting person who knows no bounds to his little ego and to whom he will attack in public. I think the office deserves a better "person" than Trump ever could be. He makes this country look classless like he is, he is telling millions of citizens it is ok to be a jerk to someone you disagree with and to abuse women, minorities, anyone he feels like and that is beneath the office. Clinton for sure was a better figure head for this country than Trump ever could be.
And in reality I think the leadership qualities and "class" that Clinton has carries more value than the narrow ultra-conservative self interests you have and why you voted for Trump.
Clinton is an ice-cold lady, she is devious and I am sure she knows no boundaries to what she will do in private to forward her cause...but I also think Trump is similar in that aspect.
So given my opinion of the office, the importance of public perception and leadership, diplomacy and that I am not in support of many of the ultra-right pillars I would choose Clinton..not that I think she is a good candidate, the only good candidate was Sanders. The repub side was horrible, and I thought the last cycle couldnt be worse, well this was for sure.
I am not in support of a war defense spender, I am not in support of many of his decisions (keystone for sure is a biggie) and I do not think he is any different than any other politician...being brash and crude and a loud mouth does not make you a leader or a fighter of a good cause. Trump is a fighter for sure, he is a big mouth coward fighter who will put down and abuse anyone that does not agree with him. That is a dirty fighter and a person not deserving of the office.
He loves taking credit when he's had little or no involvement. Yet when things are rocky, he looks for the closest bus to throw someone under For example....
FEB. 7 “I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35.” (The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.)
FEB. 16 “Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.)
FEB. 18 “And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing.” (Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.)
FEB. 24 “Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.” (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.)
He loves taking credit when he's had little or no involvement. Yet when things are rocky, he looks for the closest bus to throw someone under For example....
FEB. 7 “I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35.” (The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.)
FEB. 16 “Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.)
FEB. 18 “And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing.” (Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.)
FEB. 24 “Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.” (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.)
This is an exaggeration. Alleged MS-13 members are being detained and deported by the dozens, not the thousands. As of a month ago, the government of El Salvador, the foreign country with the most MS-13 members, told the Washington Post that 398 gang members had been deported there in 2017.
How can anyone believe anything he says??
June 21...more on MS13
“We are moving them (MS-13 gang members) out of the country by the thousands. By the thousands.”
This is an exaggeration. Alleged MS-13 members are being detained and deported by the dozens, not the thousands. As of a month ago, the government of El Salvador, the foreign country with the most MS-13 members, told the Washington Post that 398 gang members had been deported there in 2017.
IMO, if Trump is still around by 2020 & Joe Biden decides to throw his hat in the ring, Biden will win in a landslide.
Trump will not get away with low energy comments like he did against Bush, or lying Ted comments or little Marco comments. No attacking Goldman Sachs speaking fees or Bill's sexual antics.
Biden can bring our country together again & that is certainly needed.
IMO, if Trump is still around by 2020 & Joe Biden decides to throw his hat in the ring, Biden will win in a landslide.
Trump will not get away with low energy comments like he did against Bush, or lying Ted comments or little Marco comments. No attacking Goldman Sachs speaking fees or Bill's sexual antics.
Biden can bring our country together again & that is certainly needed.
IMO, if Trump is still around by 2020 & Joe Biden decides to throw his hat in the ring, Biden will win in a landslide.
Trump will not get away with low energy comments like he did against Bush, or lying Ted comments or little Marco comments. No attacking Goldman Sachs speaking fees or Bill's sexual antics.
Biden can bring our country together again & that is certainly needed.
Lunch pail Joe will first have to beat out Sen. Kamala Harris.. I hear that top Democrat donors are getting behind her for President in 2020...
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
IMO, if Trump is still around by 2020 & Joe Biden decides to throw his hat in the ring, Biden will win in a landslide.
Trump will not get away with low energy comments like he did against Bush, or lying Ted comments or little Marco comments. No attacking Goldman Sachs speaking fees or Bill's sexual antics.
Biden can bring our country together again & that is certainly needed.
Lunch pail Joe will first have to beat out Sen. Kamala Harris.. I hear that top Democrat donors are getting behind her for President in 2020...
Obviously I do ..that's why I asked. What politician that ran for President in 2016.. was one that you think was honorable and not deplorable ?
,,,,,,,as far as President Trump...progressive socialism/liberalism needed to be stopped for the good of the country..whereas President Trump lacked decorum he is seen as a fighter by the people that voted for him..and a fighter is what the right needed to win the election..
McCain with his cooperative reach across the aisle style didn't work nor did Romney's good manners and propriety ( lost him the last two debates ) and the election..
For years the left was the only side engaged in fighting the culture war in this country...and took down anyone who stood in their way ..going by the rules of Saul Alinsky... the right side was losing the war because the left was the only side fighting this war.
Now, with President Donald Trump, this has all come to an end. He's a fighter playing by there rules..when they go low he goes lower..and is beating them at their own game..
He may be rude ,crude and at times demeaning .nevertheless he's a fighter and a fighter is what the people that voted for him wanted .. and I will compare the two.... with Hillary you never knew what was real ..as with our present President you knew exactly what you were going to get...and he is fighting his way and winning against the #NeverTrumpers..like yourself..
SS great post
As I posted in my "the Donald" thread back in 15'..DJT learned how to play Dimms game and threw it TOTALLy back in their face...Look where it got him...1600 Pennsylvania Ave ....despite being so "beneath the offfice" and EVERYONE doubting him
Now if he could only get the GOP caucus to "circle the wagons" like Dems do..Which REALLLY does need to be applauded..(give credit when due)....he COULD truly have a GREAT presidency...
Joe Biden
I agree Kammie Harris appears much more formidable..plus she seems pretty sharp despite her questionable CA back history..
Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Obviously I do ..that's why I asked. What politician that ran for President in 2016.. was one that you think was honorable and not deplorable ?
,,,,,,,as far as President Trump...progressive socialism/liberalism needed to be stopped for the good of the country..whereas President Trump lacked decorum he is seen as a fighter by the people that voted for him..and a fighter is what the right needed to win the election..
McCain with his cooperative reach across the aisle style didn't work nor did Romney's good manners and propriety ( lost him the last two debates ) and the election..
For years the left was the only side engaged in fighting the culture war in this country...and took down anyone who stood in their way ..going by the rules of Saul Alinsky... the right side was losing the war because the left was the only side fighting this war.
Now, with President Donald Trump, this has all come to an end. He's a fighter playing by there rules..when they go low he goes lower..and is beating them at their own game..
He may be rude ,crude and at times demeaning .nevertheless he's a fighter and a fighter is what the people that voted for him wanted .. and I will compare the two.... with Hillary you never knew what was real ..as with our present President you knew exactly what you were going to get...and he is fighting his way and winning against the #NeverTrumpers..like yourself..
SS great post
As I posted in my "the Donald" thread back in 15'..DJT learned how to play Dimms game and threw it TOTALLy back in their face...Look where it got him...1600 Pennsylvania Ave ....despite being so "beneath the offfice" and EVERYONE doubting him
Now if he could only get the GOP caucus to "circle the wagons" like Dems do..Which REALLLY does need to be applauded..(give credit when due)....he COULD truly have a GREAT presidency...
Joe Biden
I agree Kammie Harris appears much more formidable..plus she seems pretty sharp despite her questionable CA back history..
- OH NOOO!!!! My welfare/unemployment/disability check!!! My government issued benefits!!! What will I do!!! NOT MY PRESIDENT!!! Where's my gas mask and picket sign!!!!!
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