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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2018 - 1:23 PM ET #26

    The problem is that we're talking about whether asylum is really an option for immigrants and whether the U.S. is receptive to offering it.  I saw that the DOJ changed the definition and I remember commenting on here months ago how I'd actually side with the Republicans if I could trust them on the issue, when in fact I believed they just want to keep as many people out of the country as possible.  I believe in asylum.  Life is difficult and some countries are unstable and dangerous.  It's easy to have no empathy and focus on just Americans because if you're born in this country, you likely had a better shot at life right off the bat.  I argue that Americans take it for granted, not because that they don't love the country, but rather that they don't envision if they had been born into poverty in some shithole country, whether they would have been afforded a chance at a decent life or if they might die.


    I take it a step further and I say it doesn't even matter what the country's consensus is on asylum.  Perhaps majority opinion is not necessarily the best way to come to a conclusion. 


    I'm deviating a bit here but I was trying to talk about Anthony Bourdain for a minute with my friend the other night.  It was because my friend pointed out some executive at the baseball game roughly around our age and how he's more successful than us.  I argued that success is just a measure of what society values and what supposedly matters.  Did that individual compromise himself in the process of being successful?  Is he actually happy with life?  Bourdain was successful by how society measures it but obviously he was discontent and unsatisfied.  I saw suicide calls increased to one major hotline in the U.S. after his death.  When I contemplate life, I think about what I personally believe is the right thing to do in a given situation.  The right thing to do is offer asylum in credible situations where it applies.  I do not think that anyone could convince me to think otherwise about the issue. 
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    The problem is that we're talking about whether asylum is really an option for immigrants and whether the U.S. is receptive to offering it.  I saw that the DOJ changed the definition and I remember commenting on here months ago how I'd actually side with the Republicans if I could trust them on the issue, when in fact I believed they just want to keep as many people out of the country as possible.  I believe in asylum.  Life is difficult and some countries are unstable and dangerous.  It's easy to have no empathy and focus on just Americans because if you're born in this country, you likely had a better shot at life right off the bat.  I argue that Americans take it for granted, not because that they don't love the country, but rather that they don't envision if they had been born into poverty in some shithole country, whether they would have been afforded a chance at a decent life or if they might die.


    I take it a step further and I say it doesn't even matter what the country's consensus is on asylum.  Perhaps majority opinion is not necessarily the best way to come to a conclusion. 


    I'm deviating a bit here but I was trying to talk about Anthony Bourdain for a minute with my friend the other night.  It was because my friend pointed out some executive at the baseball game roughly around our age and how he's more successful than us.  I argued that success is just a measure of what society values and what supposedly matters.  Did that individual compromise himself in the process of being successful?  Is he actually happy with life?  Bourdain was successful by how society measures it but obviously he was discontent and unsatisfied.  I saw suicide calls increased to one major hotline in the U.S. after his death.  When I contemplate life, I think about what I personally believe is the right thing to do in a given situation.  The right thing to do is offer asylum in credible situations where it applies.  I do not think that anyone could convince me to think otherwise about the issue. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2018 - 5:06 PM ET #27

    Republicans do not want labor to have rights.! They been doing this for a century and beyond. They simply want a class of humans to find to abject poverty and die in a Potter’s field. With 0 chance. So Mexican shit in the irrigation ponds now they are not welcomed !

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    Republicans do not want labor to have rights.! They been doing this for a century and beyond. They simply want a class of humans to find to abject poverty and die in a Potter’s field. With 0 chance. So Mexican shit in the irrigation ponds now they are not welcomed !

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2018 - 10:34 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:

    The problem is that we're talking about whether asylum is really an option for immigrants and whether the U.S. is receptive to offering it.  I saw that the DOJ changed the definition and I remember commenting on here months ago how I'd actually side with the Republicans if I could trust them on the issue, when in fact I believed they just want to keep as many people out of the country as possible.  I believe in asylum.  Life is difficult and some countries are unstable and dangerous.  It's easy to have no empathy and focus on just Americans because if you're born in this country, you likely had a better shot at life right off the bat.  I argue that Americans take it for granted, not because that they don't love the country, but rather that they don't envision if they had been born into poverty in some shithole country, whether they would have been afforded a chance at a decent life or if they might die.


    I take it a step further and I say it doesn't even matter what the country's consensus is on asylum.  Perhaps majority opinion is not necessarily the best way to come to a conclusion. 


    I'm deviating a bit here but I was trying to talk about Anthony Bourdain for a minute with my friend the other night.  It was because my friend pointed out some executive at the baseball game roughly around our age and how he's more successful than us.  I argued that success is just a measure of what society values and what supposedly matters.  Did that individual compromise himself in the process of being successful?  Is he actually happy with life?  Bourdain was successful by how society measures it but obviously he was discontent and unsatisfied.  I saw suicide calls increased to one major hotline in the U.S. after his death.  When I contemplate life, I think about what I personally believe is the right thing to do in a given situation.  The right thing to do is offer asylum in credible situations where it applies.  I do not think that anyone could convince me to think otherwise about the issue. 


    Sickness,........ Seriously, If you haven't figured it out by now, Trump believes in an America 1st policy. This means Trump is sick of taxpayers footing the bill for all these people seeking asylum , and others abusing illegal immigration to this country.  Do we have some sort of moral obligation for accepting these folks with hardship into this country ? If you think there is some sort of moral obligation, do your yourself a favor and go to Church, and help others who are less fortunate.  There are plenty of U.S. citizens that don't get the same federal support as these illegal aliens. 


    I encourage people to start looking at how Canada, Australia, and New Zealand have a "merit based" immigration system.  They ask those wishing to seek citizenship how will they contribute to the host country.  What a novel concept... 

    It's time this country starts changing its immigration polices as well, asking those seeking entry how they will help this country, instead of taking away (from its citizens). 

    And build that damn Wall already  ! 


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    Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:

    The problem is that we're talking about whether asylum is really an option for immigrants and whether the U.S. is receptive to offering it.  I saw that the DOJ changed the definition and I remember commenting on here months ago how I'd actually side with the Republicans if I could trust them on the issue, when in fact I believed they just want to keep as many people out of the country as possible.  I believe in asylum.  Life is difficult and some countries are unstable and dangerous.  It's easy to have no empathy and focus on just Americans because if you're born in this country, you likely had a better shot at life right off the bat.  I argue that Americans take it for granted, not because that they don't love the country, but rather that they don't envision if they had been born into poverty in some shithole country, whether they would have been afforded a chance at a decent life or if they might die.


    I take it a step further and I say it doesn't even matter what the country's consensus is on asylum.  Perhaps majority opinion is not necessarily the best way to come to a conclusion. 


    I'm deviating a bit here but I was trying to talk about Anthony Bourdain for a minute with my friend the other night.  It was because my friend pointed out some executive at the baseball game roughly around our age and how he's more successful than us.  I argued that success is just a measure of what society values and what supposedly matters.  Did that individual compromise himself in the process of being successful?  Is he actually happy with life?  Bourdain was successful by how society measures it but obviously he was discontent and unsatisfied.  I saw suicide calls increased to one major hotline in the U.S. after his death.  When I contemplate life, I think about what I personally believe is the right thing to do in a given situation.  The right thing to do is offer asylum in credible situations where it applies.  I do not think that anyone could convince me to think otherwise about the issue. 


    Sickness,........ Seriously, If you haven't figured it out by now, Trump believes in an America 1st policy. This means Trump is sick of taxpayers footing the bill for all these people seeking asylum , and others abusing illegal immigration to this country.  Do we have some sort of moral obligation for accepting these folks with hardship into this country ? If you think there is some sort of moral obligation, do your yourself a favor and go to Church, and help others who are less fortunate.  There are plenty of U.S. citizens that don't get the same federal support as these illegal aliens. 


    I encourage people to start looking at how Canada, Australia, and New Zealand have a "merit based" immigration system.  They ask those wishing to seek citizenship how will they contribute to the host country.  What a novel concept... 

    It's time this country starts changing its immigration polices as well, asking those seeking entry how they will help this country, instead of taking away (from its citizens). 

    And build that damn Wall already  ! 


     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2018 - 10:22 AM ET #29

    Trump has money a mind was never a personal need, That's what lawyers do....Trump is like a fish he spawns and moves on 
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    Nature, I truly  need to drive to Maine and treat you to dinner and drinls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Nature, I truly  need to drive to Maine and treat you to dinner and drinls.
    well I would like to say it’s great place mostly it is but we stay away from Lewiston and Auburn we are the edge of a race war with legal immigrants Somalians and Americans are liters killing each other’s kids.... it’s nutz here

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    Nature, I truly  need to drive to Maine and treat you to dinner and drinls.
    well I would like to say it’s great place mostly it is but we stay away from Lewiston and Auburn we are the edge of a race war with legal immigrants Somalians and Americans are liters killing each other’s kids.... it’s nutz here

     
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    My buddy of mine is from Maine and he said that there is a huge problem with the Somalians in that state as well. How the heck they handle the cold weather up there. I assume they don’t come out that time of year. That’s a complete turn around climate speaking. I do know that there are a ton of illegal Haitians where I am at. They are in a war with the Jamaicans. Someone is getting shot everyday. 
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    My buddy of mine is from Maine and he said that there is a huge problem with the Somalians in that state as well. How the heck they handle the cold weather up there. I assume they don’t come out that time of year. That’s a complete turn around climate speaking. I do know that there are a ton of illegal Haitians where I am at. They are in a war with the Jamaicans. Someone is getting shot everyday. 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus1978:

    My buddy of mine is from Maine and he said that there is a huge problem with the Somalians in that state as well. How the heck they handle the cold weather up there. I assume they don’t come out that time of year. That’s a complete turn around climate speaking. I do know that there are a ton of illegal Haitians where I am at. They are in a war with the Jamaicans. Someone is getting shot everyday.
    simply do not understand the majority of the somalians first they come from a complete nightmare begged the usa for sanctuary then our government places them here in basically ice land 10 weeks of summer and 10 months to get there again. Finally they go back to same tribal fuedal system they left. A maylee broke out in a park 25 whites against 200 or so somalians a whiteman died. They dont discrimnate they hate white blacks hispanics and all christians the same . Same idiots saying west is bad go back to the hell you left in somalia your home why create a new hell here. The more i learn of them the more I despise them. I trade them for central americans in a new york second. Not seen this type of stupid before if drowning a 13 year old girl in range pond gets you a better after life the crux that started this war we do not pray to the same god .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus1978:

    My buddy of mine is from Maine and he said that there is a huge problem with the Somalians in that state as well. How the heck they handle the cold weather up there. I assume they don’t come out that time of year. That’s a complete turn around climate speaking. I do know that there are a ton of illegal Haitians where I am at. They are in a war with the Jamaicans. Someone is getting shot everyday.
    simply do not understand the majority of the somalians first they come from a complete nightmare begged the usa for sanctuary then our government places them here in basically ice land 10 weeks of summer and 10 months to get there again. Finally they go back to same tribal fuedal system they left. A maylee broke out in a park 25 whites against 200 or so somalians a whiteman died. They dont discrimnate they hate white blacks hispanics and all christians the same . Same idiots saying west is bad go back to the hell you left in somalia your home why create a new hell here. The more i learn of them the more I despise them. I trade them for central americans in a new york second. Not seen this type of stupid before if drowning a 13 year old girl in range pond gets you a better after life the crux that started this war we do not pray to the same god .

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