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#26
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Not middle class & my taxes also went up.
Me too tax break passed by my home !
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It appears Hunter Biden isn’t much better than the
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#27
Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:
My taxes actually went up a few % pts also. Middle class here also.
My taxes actually went up a few % pts also. Middle class here also.
It isnt like I have a zillion discussions with people about it but as of yet I have not found anyone middle class that saw a benefit. I itemize pretty tightly meaning I know all of what I qualify for and now they are all gone but my previous marginal bracket was lower than my current new one.
I think Repubs could care less if taxes are higher or even if much of their standards are gone as long as the sacred few are intact which include religion, same sex rights attacking, excessive gun rights, attacking the "liberal" political position (social programs etc).
I've not heard a peep from conservatives here or that I know in person about the reality and facts of the lies from Trump and campaign promises not kept or that taxes are higher...as long as the conservative agenda is intact they could not give a crap or what a disgusting pig he is and how disrespectful he is day in and out.
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Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:
I think the student loan interest deduction reduction was the most devastating of them all IMO.
I think the student loan interest deduction reduction was the most devastating of them all IMO.
According to the Department of Education,”While the Department of Education puts the estimated cost at $112 billion for the loan forgiveness plan one analyst called it a “gross underestimate” and suggested the cost could be $600,000,000,000...
President Joe Biden’s Department of Education has proposed a student loan forgiveness plan to take effect after President-elect Donald Trump takes office in January...Yeah right, Joe dump it on President Trump..cement that lowest rating you are getting.
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@SarasotaSlim
I have to agree with you on this but like great horse stallions Trumps first 3 are classless what’s in it for me gold spoon slugs ! Tiffany has played he hand the best of all by getting her JD degree and staying on the fringe of politics and marrying a billionaire….She could be a closet democrat? Barron ???? I can only pray the this apple roles down the hill far away for the tree! But I doubt it! Not with Abbot and Costello for brothers!
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@wallstreetcappers
Interesting........likewise, I've not heard from any libs here about all of Biden's lies & what a disgusting pig he is. I guess that gate swings both ways.
What I do know is that over the L4 years everything just costs more. My health insurance premiums have gone up 400% since Biden took office. Homeowners, auto have gone up too. I've gotten no tax break, nor has any of my debt been forgiven like some people. There's literally nothing I can point to & say "that is/was better under Biden".
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Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:
The problem with Slim, etal., is that hey have fallen for the Retardlicans separation of of pressure, bribery, extortion, whatever you want to call it. There is a world of difference between pressuring the corrupt government of a foreign country seeking aid, and a legitimate foreign government from whom you are squeezing for dirt on a political opponent. Joe Biden, on behalf of Obama and U.S. foreign policy was after a corrupt prosecutor that was not investigating or prosecuting ANY corruption, and there was a ton of it going on. Hunter Biden's position with Burisma was NOT protected; he, and Birisma were as likely to get investigated as any other type or form of corruption. Therefore, the Biden (Obama) position on withholding aid was a matter of U.S. foreign policy. Trump could not have made himself clearer on HIS desires if he hit the entire Ukrainian government over the head with a truncheon. It was obvious HE wanted political dirt on a political opponent. THAT is not U.S. foreign policy in action. It is PERSONAL INTEREST POLITICS at its sleaziest. Using desperately needed military assistance funds to extort (blackmail) a friendly foreign government for PERSONAL POLITICAL GAIN is the metric of measure here. Where does Trump currently stand in the history of lies to the American people, much less the Congress? is he not already the all-time champion, in only three years, when so many others would have to stand up for 8, or in the case of F.D.R., 13 years? You got your beloved tax cut Trumpers, stick your heads back in the sand.
The problem with Slim, etal., is that hey have fallen for the Retardlicans separation of of pressure, bribery, extortion, whatever you want to call it. There is a world of difference between pressuring the corrupt government of a foreign country seeking aid, and a legitimate foreign government from whom you are squeezing for dirt on a political opponent. Joe Biden, on behalf of Obama and U.S. foreign policy was after a corrupt prosecutor that was not investigating or prosecuting ANY corruption, and there was a ton of it going on. Hunter Biden's position with Burisma was NOT protected; he, and Birisma were as likely to get investigated as any other type or form of corruption. Therefore, the Biden (Obama) position on withholding aid was a matter of U.S. foreign policy. Trump could not have made himself clearer on HIS desires if he hit the entire Ukrainian government over the head with a truncheon. It was obvious HE wanted political dirt on a political opponent. THAT is not U.S. foreign policy in action. It is PERSONAL INTEREST POLITICS at its sleaziest. Using desperately needed military assistance funds to extort (blackmail) a friendly foreign government for PERSONAL POLITICAL GAIN is the metric of measure here. Where does Trump currently stand in the history of lies to the American people, much less the Congress? is he not already the all-time champion, in only three years, when so many others would have to stand up for 8, or in the case of F.D.R., 13 years? You got your beloved tax cut Trumpers, stick your heads back in the sand.
Shokin had seized some of Burisma CEO'S property before being fired. The CEO lived in exile outside the country. After Shokin was fired and a new prosecutor was hired all charges against Burisma CEO dropped, his property returned and he moved back to Ukraine.
Funny how the outcomes always defy the naratives. 
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#33
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: My taxes actually went up a few % pts also. Middle class here also. It isnt like I have a zillion discussions with people about it but as of yet I have not found anyone middle class that saw a benefit. I itemize pretty tightly meaning I know all of what I qualify for and now they are all gone but my previous marginal bracket was lower than my current new one. I think Repubs could care less if taxes are higher or even if much of their standards are gone as long as the sacred few are intact which include religion, same sex rights attacking, excessive gun rights, attacking the "liberal" political position (social programs etc). I've not heard a peep from conservatives here or that I know in person about the reality and facts of the lies from Trump and campaign promises not kept or that taxes are higher...as long as the conservative agenda is intact they could not give a crap or what a disgusting pig he is and how disrespectful he is day in and out.
Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: My taxes actually went up a few % pts also. Middle class here also. It isnt like I have a zillion discussions with people about it but as of yet I have not found anyone middle class that saw a benefit. I itemize pretty tightly meaning I know all of what I qualify for and now they are all gone but my previous marginal bracket was lower than my current new one. I think Repubs could care less if taxes are higher or even if much of their standards are gone as long as the sacred few are intact which include religion, same sex rights attacking, excessive gun rights, attacking the "liberal" political position (social programs etc). I've not heard a peep from conservatives here or that I know in person about the reality and facts of the lies from Trump and campaign promises not kept or that taxes are higher...as long as the conservative agenda is intact they could not give a crap or what a disgusting pig he is and how disrespectful he is day in and out.
That's not a true statement. I, personally have said numerous times here that I saw less taxes after Trump's cuts. And I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.
| Under previous law | Under TCJA | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Rate | Income bracket | Rate | Income bracket |
| 10% | $0–$19,050 | 10% | $0–$19,050 |
| 15% | $19,050–$77,400 | 12% | $19,050–$77,400 |
| 25% | $77,400–$156,150 | 22% | $77,400–$165,000 |
| 28% | $156,150–$237,950 | 24% | $165,000–$315,000 |
| 33% | $237,950–$424,950 | 32% | $315,000–$400,000 |
| 35% | $424,950–$480,050 | 35% | $400,000–$600,000 |
| 39.6% | $480,050 and up | 37% | $600,000 and up |
https://www.yahoo.com/news/irs-data-prove-trump-tax-130007569.html
Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans' tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.
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#34
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: My taxes actually went up a few % pts also. Middle class here also. It isnt like I have a zillion discussions with people about it but as of yet I have not found anyone middle class that saw a benefit. I itemize pretty tightly meaning I know all of what I qualify for and now they are all gone but my previous marginal bracket was lower than my current new one. I think Repubs could care less if taxes are higher or even if much of their standards are gone as long as the sacred few are intact which include religion, same sex rights attacking, excessive gun rights, attacking the "liberal" political position (social programs etc). I've not heard a peep from conservatives here or that I know in person about the reality and facts of the lies from Trump and campaign promises not kept or that taxes are higher...as long as the conservative agenda is intact they could not give a crap or what a disgusting pig he is and how disrespectful he is day in and out. That's not a true statement. I, personally have said numerous times here that I saw less taxes after Trump's cuts. And I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Married filing jointly (2018)[17] Under previous law Under TCJA Rate Income bracket Rate Income bracket 10% $0–$19,050 10% $0–$19,050 15% $19,050–$77,400 12% $19,050–$77,400 25% $77,400–$156,150 22% $77,400–$165,000 28% $156,150–$237,950 24% $165,000–$315,000 33% $237,950–$424,950 32% $315,000–$400,000 35% $424,950–$480,050 35% $400,000–$600,000 39.6% $480,050 and up 37% $600,000 and up https://www.yahoo.com/news/irs-data-prove-trump-tax-130007569.html Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans' tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12: My taxes actually went up a few % pts also. Middle class here also. It isnt like I have a zillion discussions with people about it but as of yet I have not found anyone middle class that saw a benefit. I itemize pretty tightly meaning I know all of what I qualify for and now they are all gone but my previous marginal bracket was lower than my current new one. I think Repubs could care less if taxes are higher or even if much of their standards are gone as long as the sacred few are intact which include religion, same sex rights attacking, excessive gun rights, attacking the "liberal" political position (social programs etc). I've not heard a peep from conservatives here or that I know in person about the reality and facts of the lies from Trump and campaign promises not kept or that taxes are higher...as long as the conservative agenda is intact they could not give a crap or what a disgusting pig he is and how disrespectful he is day in and out. That's not a true statement. I, personally have said numerous times here that I saw less taxes after Trump's cuts. And I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Married filing jointly (2018)[17] Under previous law Under TCJA Rate Income bracket Rate Income bracket 10% $0–$19,050 10% $0–$19,050 15% $19,050–$77,400 12% $19,050–$77,400 25% $77,400–$156,150 22% $77,400–$165,000 28% $156,150–$237,950 24% $165,000–$315,000 33% $237,950–$424,950 32% $315,000–$400,000 35% $424,950–$480,050 35% $400,000–$600,000 39.6% $480,050 and up 37% $600,000 and up https://www.yahoo.com/news/irs-data-prove-trump-tax-130007569.html Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans' tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.
Libs...aka Commies, aren't friendly with facts!
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