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BWS77

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Posted: Jul. 13, 2015 - 6:49 PM ET #26

MTV has been degrading white people for decades. I don't why it took them so long to make this new 'special'.

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dl36

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Posted: Jul. 13, 2015 - 7:35 PM ET #27

I hear you on that one. If you move your country so much, why leave it? I think the same can said for Americans that hate their country so much. Just leave.

I had an interesting conversation once with a bunch of guy I play soccer with that have all come from all over the world and succeeded in America. South Americans, Africans, Asians, Europeans and this what they concluded.

America has so much opportunity and resource in comparison to their countries that they wonder how someone can't make it in America.

One guy from an African country said that he made enough working 2-3 jobs over 25 years to not only make it for himself but to support his family back home along with both his brother's and sister's families.

So he laughed at welfare and said there is no reason in America for anyone to be on welfare considering the amount of opportunity in the usa.

But what one South American said something that the rest of the immigrants agreed with. The biggest disadvantage for Americans is that they grew up on a culture and society that is soft and allows people to be on welfare. What these guys said was if you grow up in a 2nd or 3rd world country with such a lack of opportunity and resources, when you come to America you are both ready and willing to succeed.

But if you grow up in America you are hobbled, spoiled and entitled. So they say they fear for their kids and try to instill in them what they learned growing up and don't want them to learn the ways of the American welfare ebt culture.

So I felt somewhat offended. But it was a fresh perspective to hear that the immigrant view based on where they came from that usa has so much opportunity and resource that no one should be on welfare.

Makes me think that those that oppose immigrants are pro-welfare or afraid the competition that a hard working opportunistic immigrant might have in a capitalist usa.

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Posted: Jul. 13, 2015 - 9:32 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

I hear you on that one. If you move your country so much, why leave it? I think the same can said for Americans that hate their country so much. Just leave.

I had an interesting conversation once with a bunch of guy I play soccer with that have all come from all over the world and succeeded in America. South Americans, Africans, Asians, Europeans and this what they concluded.

America has so much opportunity and resource in comparison to their countries that they wonder how someone can't make it in America.

One guy from an African country said that he made enough working 2-3 jobs over 25 years to not only make it for himself but to support his family back home along with both his brother's and sister's families.

So he laughed at welfare and said there is no reason in America for anyone to be on welfare considering the amount of opportunity in the usa.

But what one South American said something that the rest of the immigrants agreed with. The biggest disadvantage for Americans is that they grew up on a culture and society that is soft and allows people to be on welfare. What these guys said was if you grow up in a 2nd or 3rd world country with such a lack of opportunity and resources, when you come to America you are both ready and willing to succeed.

But if you grow up in America you are hobbled, spoiled and entitled. So they say they fear for their kids and try to instill in them what they learned growing up and don't want them to learn the ways of the American welfare ebt culture.

So I felt somewhat offended. But it was a fresh perspective to hear that the immigrant view based on where they came from that usa has so much opportunity and resource that no one should be on welfare.

Makes me think that those that oppose immigrants are pro-welfare or afraid the competition that a hard working opportunistic immigrant might have in a capitalist usa.

Unlike your normal bland and uninteresting drivel, this post is an absolute winner! I have had similar experiences with people (mainly from Eastern Europe) who think likewise.Thanks for sharing.

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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

I hear you on that one. If you move your country so much, why leave it? I think the same can said for Americans that hate their country so much. Just leave.

I had an interesting conversation once with a bunch of guy I play soccer with that have all come from all over the world and succeeded in America. South Americans, Africans, Asians, Europeans and this what they concluded.

America has so much opportunity and resource in comparison to their countries that they wonder how someone can't make it in America.

One guy from an African country said that he made enough working 2-3 jobs over 25 years to not only make it for himself but to support his family back home along with both his brother's and sister's families.

So he laughed at welfare and said there is no reason in America for anyone to be on welfare considering the amount of opportunity in the usa.

But what one South American said something that the rest of the immigrants agreed with. The biggest disadvantage for Americans is that they grew up on a culture and society that is soft and allows people to be on welfare. What these guys said was if you grow up in a 2nd or 3rd world country with such a lack of opportunity and resources, when you come to America you are both ready and willing to succeed.

But if you grow up in America you are hobbled, spoiled and entitled. So they say they fear for their kids and try to instill in them what they learned growing up and don't want them to learn the ways of the American welfare ebt culture.

So I felt somewhat offended. But it was a fresh perspective to hear that the immigrant view based on where they came from that usa has so much opportunity and resource that no one should be on welfare.

Makes me think that those that oppose immigrants are pro-welfare or afraid the competition that a hard working opportunistic immigrant might have in a capitalist usa.

Unlike your normal bland and uninteresting drivel, this post is an absolute winner! I have had similar experiences with people (mainly from Eastern Europe) who think likewise.Thanks for sharing.

dl36

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Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 4:07 AM ET #29

Getty you should know my deal by now. Mostly trolling aliases and wackos on this site till they lose it and have an emotional meltdown.

Then sit back and their meltdown as they crumble.

I try to use typos and humor to make people have a different image of me to fool overly bused posters. But people on this site know that I have a pretty accurate look on life and world.

There were a few Eastern European guys in on that conversation, i remember one guy specifically from Moldova that brought up the whole welfare issue and the mindset of some Americans that fear immigrants because they will out work them because they see opportunity while Americans cannot/do not.

Thanks for acknowledging what I posted although the idea that the groups of people that are anti-immgrant are actually pro-welfare is not my idea, it was from this collective of guys from around the world. They deserve the credit, I was just open enough to experience it and have a civil/thoughtful dialog.

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Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 6:21 AM ET #30

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

I hear you on that one. If you move your country so much, why leave it? I think the same can said for Americans that hate their country so much. Just leave.

I had an interesting conversation once with a bunch of guy I play soccer with that have all come from all over the world and succeeded in America. South Americans, Africans, Asians, Europeans and this what they concluded.

America has so much opportunity and resource in comparison to their countries that they wonder how someone can't make it in America.

One guy from an African country said that he made enough working 2-3 jobs over 25 years to not only make it for himself but to support his family back home along with both his brother's and sister's families.

So he laughed at welfare and said there is no reason in America for anyone to be on welfare considering the amount of opportunity in the usa.

But what one South American said something that the rest of the immigrants agreed with. The biggest disadvantage for Americans is that they grew up on a culture and society that is soft and allows people to be on welfare. What these guys said was if you grow up in a 2nd or 3rd world country with such a lack of opportunity and resources, when you come to America you are both ready and willing to succeed.

But if you grow up in America you are hobbled, spoiled and entitled. So they say they fear for their kids and try to instill in them what they learned growing up and don't want them to learn the ways of the American welfare ebt culture.

So I felt somewhat offended. But it was a fresh perspective to hear that the immigrant view based on where they came from that usa has so much opportunity and resource that no one should be on welfare.

Makes me think that those that oppose immigrants are pro-welfare or afraid the competition that a hard working opportunistic immigrant might have in a capitalist usa.

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GimmeMoneyNow

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Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 10:15 AM ET #31

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

I hear you on that one. If you move your country so much, why leave it? I think the same can said for Americans that hate their country so much. Just leave.

I had an interesting conversation once with a bunch of guy I play soccer with that have all come from all over the world and succeeded in America. South Americans, Africans, Asians, Europeans and this what they concluded.

America has so much opportunity and resource in comparison to their countries that they wonder how someone can't make it in America.

One guy from an African country said that he made enough working 2-3 jobs over 25 years to not only make it for himself but to support his family back home along with both his brother's and sister's families.

So he laughed at welfare and said there is no reason in America for anyone to be on welfare considering the amount of opportunity in the usa.

But what one South American said something that the rest of the immigrants agreed with. The biggest disadvantage for Americans is that they grew up on a culture and society that is soft and allows people to be on welfare. What these guys said was if you grow up in a 2nd or 3rd world country with such a lack of opportunity and resources, when you come to America you are both ready and willing to succeed.

But if you grow up in America you are hobbled, spoiled and entitled. So they say they fear for their kids and try to instill in them what they learned growing up and don't want them to learn the ways of the American welfare ebt culture.

So I felt somewhat offended. But it was a fresh perspective to hear that the immigrant view based on where they came from that usa has so much opportunity and resource that no one should be on welfare.

Makes me think that those that oppose immigrants are pro-welfare or afraid the competition that a hard working opportunistic immigrant might have in a capitalist usa.

Wow!! What a well thought out, poignant, and interesting post!

See!! See how much more fulfilling and rewarding having a back and forth conversation can be, instead of just making snide comments and talking junk.

Look, I'm now the third person bumping this, because it needs to be bumped again. EVERYTHING you said in that post is spot on.

Good on 'ya, mate!!

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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

I hear you on that one. If you move your country so much, why leave it? I think the same can said for Americans that hate their country so much. Just leave.

I had an interesting conversation once with a bunch of guy I play soccer with that have all come from all over the world and succeeded in America. South Americans, Africans, Asians, Europeans and this what they concluded.

America has so much opportunity and resource in comparison to their countries that they wonder how someone can't make it in America.

One guy from an African country said that he made enough working 2-3 jobs over 25 years to not only make it for himself but to support his family back home along with both his brother's and sister's families.

So he laughed at welfare and said there is no reason in America for anyone to be on welfare considering the amount of opportunity in the usa.

But what one South American said something that the rest of the immigrants agreed with. The biggest disadvantage for Americans is that they grew up on a culture and society that is soft and allows people to be on welfare. What these guys said was if you grow up in a 2nd or 3rd world country with such a lack of opportunity and resources, when you come to America you are both ready and willing to succeed.

But if you grow up in America you are hobbled, spoiled and entitled. So they say they fear for their kids and try to instill in them what they learned growing up and don't want them to learn the ways of the American welfare ebt culture.

So I felt somewhat offended. But it was a fresh perspective to hear that the immigrant view based on where they came from that usa has so much opportunity and resource that no one should be on welfare.

Makes me think that those that oppose immigrants are pro-welfare or afraid the competition that a hard working opportunistic immigrant might have in a capitalist usa.

Wow!! What a well thought out, poignant, and interesting post!

See!! See how much more fulfilling and rewarding having a back and forth conversation can be, instead of just making snide comments and talking junk.

Look, I'm now the third person bumping this, because it needs to be bumped again. EVERYTHING you said in that post is spot on.

Good on 'ya, mate!!

YouOnlyWish

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Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 4:05 PM ET #32

crickets from scal

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The Hawk

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Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 8:38 PM ET #33

Will this show be in color?

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Johnzimbo34

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Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 9:08 PM ET #34

We already know they can't jump. What new ground will this be breaking?

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scalabrine

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Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 9:41 PM ET #35

I hear you on that one. If you move your country so much, why leave it? I think the same can said for Americans that hate their country so much. Just leave.

When I hear people say these things (and they are said often in GD) I think of almost now, ancient episodes of Beavis and Butthead where a parody of the typical American redneck squeals, "Love or git the hell out!"

Even the writers of one of the infamous and largely meaningless shows in TV history still took the time to lampoon those whose solution to criticism of one's Country is, "GTFO!" Even they understood who those people were and their coincident intelligence level, or lack thereof in this case.

And here, in 2015, we still have posters parroting that exact GTFO notion, as though it is something profound.

And like clockwork, there are immediate applause from the dim-bulb bigoted masses.

And who here is criticizing this country? Turning the lens of racism on the Caucasian race in a documentary is somehow being critical of one's country?

See this is where true white delusion hits home.

Dl's solution to those who are critical of the structural and institutional racism in this country is for those people...to leave.

So they can have it...all to themselves.

And why not? Well, they've been taught from their earliest age that it was their race that is responsible for the founding, the industry, the progress and all that is good with the country.

The bad elements?

Well just look at post #26! Yet another "Go back to Mexico and Africa" theme. They aren't afraid to hide their raging bigotry now are they!

And those who criticize, not the country, but those who criticize those who are racist? You can leave too!

In 2015...

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Leave a country because you've turned the lens of racism on those like the posters here. Well there's a logical conclusion.

DL, have fun wading in the scum. We all know where you stand.

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dl36

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Posted: Jul. 14, 2015 - 11:59 PM ET #36

Where do I stand?

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scalabrine

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2015 - 8:25 AM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

Where do I stand?

Just look who's applauding you if you can't understand what I wrote.

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dl36

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2015 - 3:49 PM ET #38

So what? I just speak my mind and opinion. I am not trying to gain support or favor from anyone. Just honest real talk.

That's where I stand.

What is funny is that in the politics section there are a few wackos that are obsessed with saying I am progressive because I don't agree with right winged talking points.

Are you trying to say that I am conservative because I don't agree with your progressive diversity training agenda?

This displays exactly where I stand. I'm am a non-partisan indepdent. And people's reaction to me speaking my mind only shows which side they are being prescribed to believe.

So please articulate where it is that you think I stand. Because you put yourself exactly with the sarasotaslim, bowslit and the other mindless rhetoric idiot parrots on the this site if you are saying I must be the polar opposite to you because I have an indepdent opinion.

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YouOnlyWish

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2015 - 3:56 PM ET #39

As usual just a race bait answer by the biggest bigot and white people hater on the site. Scal has no real answer. It's always white peoples fault for everything that does not go for the people of color's way. Just keep being a slave in your own mind to white people. Your dis-dain for white people will always keep you that way. But you enjoy being a slave because then you have someone to blame for your lousy life and dont have to take responsibility for you life. You live in the past and offer nothing for the future. Just keep blaming others because you know nothing else. Of course no one will ever change your mind nor will anyone change my mind so lets keep hating each other.

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2015 - 4:40 PM ET #40

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

When I hear people say these things (and they are said often in GD) I think of almost now, ancient episodes of Beavis and Butthead where a parody of the typical American redneck squeals, "Love or git the hell out!"

You started to have me convinced you were actually white until you posted this.

If whitey is so evil and looks down on the blacks as you say then without a doubt the best way to show them is to achieve success

Work hard, put in countless hours in school/work and become a doctor or an independent business owner. Deep seeded grudges aren't going to help you advance as a person.

All the troubles you had to endure growing up as a black kid can be turned into positive instead of starting racist thread after racist thread Show them you aren't what they have been telling you that you are your whole life I am sure the kickstarters of "black lives matter" would agree with me wholeheartedly

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2015 - 5:14 PM ET #41

Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

You started to have me convinced you were actually white until you posted this.

I had a hard time believing myself, but it came out that he is a guy white male in an interracial civil union with a black male. Granted rumors and posts aren't gospel, but he no doubt saw it and has remained silent about it. Would you remain silent about that if it were untrue?

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2015 - 5:30 PM ET #42

Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

If whitey(OR ANYONE) is so evil and looks down on the blacks (OR ANY EFFING RACE) as you say then without a doubt the best way to show them is to achieve success

Work hard, put in countless hours in school/work and become a doctor or an independent business owner. Deep seeded grudges aren't going to help you advance as a person.

Wow, so hard work, education, and success helps to not only provide you with a better life for yourself, but provides your family and possibly children with a structured, fulfilling lifestyle??

Where did this "Miracle Cure" come from? You mean I'm NOT supposed to pump out 6 kids and sell illegal cigarettes on the corner? I'm NOT supposed to hit up a liquor store in Ferguson and then run from police? Et Cetera, Et Cetera, Et Cetera..................

Hmmmmm.........

When's the last time you've seen an 'Indian' gangsta, or a Japanese/Chinese/Korean "Thug" 'Tagging' up your town with graffiti........

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2015 - 6:15 PM ET #43

Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

I had a hard time believing myself, but it came out that he is a guy white male in an interracial civil union with a black male. Granted rumors and posts aren't gospel, but he no doubt saw it and has remained silent about it. Would you remain silent about that if it were untrue?

This is what actually happened to scal...

https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/white-guy-says-hes-turning-black-because-he-got-a-liver-transplant-from-a-black-donor/

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VegasVandal

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2015 - 9:10 PM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

This is what actually happened to scal...

https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/white-guy-says-hes-turning-black-because-he-got-a-liver-transplant-from-a-black-donor/

In this case it was probably for the better. The guy looked like a weird faced extraterrestrial beforehand

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Posted: Jul. 16, 2015 - 4:37 AM ET #45

Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

You started to have me convinced you were actually white until you posted this.

If whitey is so evil and looks down on the blacks as you say then without a doubt the best way to show them is to achieve success

Work hard, put in countless hours in school/work and become a doctor or an independent business owner. Deep seeded grudges aren't going to help you advance as a person.

All the troubles you had to endure growing up as a black kid can be turned into positive instead of starting racist thread after racist thread Show them you aren't what they have been telling you that you are your whole life I am sure the kickstarters of "black lives matter" would agree with me wholeheartedly

The bold comment made me think of a video I saw a few days ago.

A black guy made a video about the perceptions white people have of black people. He pointed out that most white people do not live near black people.

The point he was trying to make was because white people do not usually interact with black people they get their perceptions elsewhere. Elsewhere being the nightly news showing murders and looting. Youtube videos where fights break out at McDonalds. LiveLeak videos showing the knockout game or a brawl in the projects.

The only way for that perception to change is by each individual improving their own lives and stop blaming someone they never met.

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Posted: Jul. 16, 2015 - 10:24 AM ET #46

Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

The bold comment made me think of a video I saw a few days ago.

A black guy made a video about the perceptions white people have of black people. He pointed out that most white people do not live near black people.

The point he was trying to make was because white people do not usually interact with black people they get their perceptions elsewhere. Elsewhere being the nightly news showing murders and looting. Youtube videos where fights break out at McDonalds. LiveLeak videos showing the knockout game or a brawl in the projects.

The only way for that perception to change is by each individual improving their own lives and stop blaming someone they never met.

I went to a Catholic grade school in the whitest of white bread suburbia. I remember at the start of my 7th grade year, there was a black kid that transferred in - his name was Vince. I think his dad was some kind of high ranking Naval officer or something, anyways.....

This kid was 6'4" and built like a brick s#ithouse! And when I say he was black, he was BLACK!!!!! And he was only like 12 or 13! Of course, the first thing my friends and I think is Holy Crap! We are going to dominate the other parishes in our area! Maybe all city! All county!

We already had this little Mexican kid that could shoot the lights out from anywhere (His mom worked at the school, so I'm guessing that's how he got in) and his name was Miguel. So, obviously since this was the heyday of Michael Jordan - he was Miguel Jordan (pronounced Yor-DAN)

So, that very first recess, EVERYONE was down at the court, even the girls.

Boy, I tell you! I wish somebody would of had a camera phone to catch the look of shock and horror on everyone's faces! This guy couldn't shoot, pass, he dribbled face down and with 2 hands, and he ran all pigeon toed and lerpy. So, we thought, O.K., maybe football is his thing then? Nope.... He couldn't catch, threw like a girl, once again, couldn't run.....

I learned right then and there at the tender age of 12 to never stereotype......

He didn't go to my high school, not sure what ever happened to him - but, I can guarantee you he didn't get an athletic scholarship to a university!!!!!

Oh, and the Asian kid couldn't do karate, either.....