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    It’s the economy, stupid

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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2022 - 8:11 AM ET #1

    All of these threads in the politics forum and not one talking about the only thing that matters — the economy. 

    "The economy, stupid" is a phrase that was coined by James Carville in 1992. Carville was a strategist in Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign against incumbent HW Bush. 

    Bush started a ground war in Kuwait and had a 90% approval rating. As the economy tanked that turned into a 65% disapproval later that same year. 

    If the economy is in the shitter and the cost of oil and food is extreme — Democrats have no shot. Nobody cares about abortion one way or the other — the issue doesn’t move the needle. Republicans know this from fighting Roe V Wade for the last 40 years and Democrats are about to find out. 

    Democrats were hoping the 1/6 panel was going to draw a much bigger audience before the midterms but they’re finding out that nobody cares. 

    What do people care about? The economy, stupid. 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    All of these threads in the politics forum and not one talking about the only thing that matters — the economy. 

    "The economy, stupid" is a phrase that was coined by James Carville in 1992. Carville was a strategist in Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign against incumbent HW Bush. 

    Bush started a ground war in Kuwait and had a 90% approval rating. As the economy tanked that turned into a 65% disapproval later that same year. 

    If the economy is in the shitter and the cost of oil and food is extreme — Democrats have no shot. Nobody cares about abortion one way or the other — the issue doesn’t move the needle. Republicans know this from fighting Roe V Wade for the last 40 years and Democrats are about to find out. 

    Democrats were hoping the 1/6 panel was going to draw a much bigger audience before the midterms but they’re finding out that nobody cares. 

    What do people care about? The economy, stupid. 

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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2022 - 9:26 AM ET #2

    Biden quote this morning from Europe: 

    “Expect to pay higher prices for as long as it takes” 

    That ain’t it chief 

     

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    Biden quote this morning from Europe: 

    “Expect to pay higher prices for as long as it takes” 

    That ain’t it chief 

     

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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2022 - 9:31 AM ET #3

    The national average for a gallon of gas was $2.39 when Joe Biden took office. 

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    The national average for a gallon of gas was $2.39 when Joe Biden took office. 

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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2022 - 10:22 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Biden quote this morning from Europe:  “Expect to pay higher prices for as long as it takes”  That ain’t it chief

     

    Dems mind set...."if the economy is bad, just print more money, we have infinite amounts, duh"

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Biden quote this morning from Europe:  “Expect to pay higher prices for as long as it takes”  That ain’t it chief

     

    Dems mind set...."if the economy is bad, just print more money, we have infinite amounts, duh"

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2022 - 10:48 AM ET #5

    We need to stop creating wars to constrict supply of commodities we have global warming and that's enough to contend with....

    We don't need more unwanted humans placing greater demands on supply chain issues we can barely feed the population we have.....

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    We need to stop creating wars to constrict supply of commodities we have global warming and that's enough to contend with....

    We don't need more unwanted humans placing greater demands on supply chain issues we can barely feed the population we have.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2022 - 11:48 AM ET #6

     Once again, Biden lies about inflation. an_roll_laugh

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     Once again, Biden lies about inflation. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2022 - 12:19 PM ET #7

    @THEMUGG

     Is it really a lie if you believe it??

     I mean, the Hologram is just repeating what either is written for him on his notecard or what his handlers tell him to say.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @THEMUGG

     Is it really a lie if you believe it??

     I mean, the Hologram is just repeating what either is written for him on his notecard or what his handlers tell him to say.  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2022 - 8:43 AM ET #8

    It's fascinating watching the government use the same playbook from 40 years ago.

    Every single excuse Milton Friedman said they'd use is word-for-word what's being said today.

    Watch 2 minute video here: 

     

    https://twitter.com/financelancelot/status/1542850677789040641?s=21&t=9JpBIqeWkFm4E7ZfnzQ9zg

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    It's fascinating watching the government use the same playbook from 40 years ago.

    Every single excuse Milton Friedman said they'd use is word-for-word what's being said today.

    Watch 2 minute video here: 

     

    https://twitter.com/financelancelot/status/1542850677789040641?s=21&t=9JpBIqeWkFm4E7ZfnzQ9zg

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2022 - 8:48 AM ET #9

    NY Times' Jim Tankersley asks Biden, "How long is it fair to expect American drivers to pay that premium" for the war in Ukraine?

    Biden: "As long as it takes."

    The stock market is getting absolutely wiped out AND inflation is crushing Americans’ spending power.

    Meanwhile, all I hear from Biden is how he is sending billions more to Ukraine and that we all need to tighten our belts to support the war.

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    NY Times' Jim Tankersley asks Biden, "How long is it fair to expect American drivers to pay that premium" for the war in Ukraine?

    Biden: "As long as it takes."

    The stock market is getting absolutely wiped out AND inflation is crushing Americans’ spending power.

    Meanwhile, all I hear from Biden is how he is sending billions more to Ukraine and that we all need to tighten our belts to support the war.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2022 - 9:21 AM ET #10

    The US money supply has increased by 41% since Joe Biden became President 

     

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    The US money supply has increased by 41% since Joe Biden became President 

     

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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 10:18 AM ET #11

    Biggest concern via Monmouth poll:

    33% inflation
    15% gas prices
    9% economy
    6% bills/groceries
    5% abortion
    3% guns
    3% health care
    3% unemployment
    2% tuition costs
    2% housing/rent
    2% safety/crime
    1% civil rights
    1% climate change
    1% coronavirus
    1% education

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    Biggest concern via Monmouth poll:

    33% inflation
    15% gas prices
    9% economy
    6% bills/groceries
    5% abortion
    3% guns
    3% health care
    3% unemployment
    2% tuition costs
    2% housing/rent
    2% safety/crime
    1% civil rights
    1% climate change
    1% coronavirus
    1% education

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 10:49 AM ET #12

    Biggest concern 

    Abortion rights 

    Source NOW.

    National organization of Women.....

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    Biggest concern 

    Abortion rights 

    Source NOW.

    National organization of Women.....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 11:16 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Biggest concern via Monmouth poll: 33% inflation15% gas prices9% economy6% bills/groceries5% abortion3% guns3% health care3% unemployment2% tuition costs2% housing/rent2% safety/crime1% civil rights1% climate change1% coronavirus1% education

     

    Where's January 6th on there? an_razzan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

    Sorry I had to, no one of consequence is watching that shit, nor gives a shit about it. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Biggest concern via Monmouth poll: 33% inflation15% gas prices9% economy6% bills/groceries5% abortion3% guns3% health care3% unemployment2% tuition costs2% housing/rent2% safety/crime1% civil rights1% climate change1% coronavirus1% education

     

    Where's January 6th on there? an_razzan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

    Sorry I had to, no one of consequence is watching that shit, nor gives a shit about it. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 11:20 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Biggest concern via Monmouth poll: 33% inflation15% gas prices9% economy6% bills/groceries5% abortion3% guns3% health care3% unemployment2% tuition costs2% housing/rent2% safety/crime1% civil rights1% climate change1% coronavirus1% education   Where's January 6th on there?    Sorry I had to, no one of consequence is watching that shit, nor gives a shit about it.

     

    Trump is glued to the screen ...but I am with you no one of consequence or relevance...

    Wait till he isn't charged with nothing by doj....  They recommended and the  Don isn't indicted....the department of justice does nothing

    Oh the humanity.....lol

    an_wink

    Every competent prosecutor knows why Garland and the Department of Justice have not indicted Trump. I’m going to say it out loud.”

    “If Trump were charged, it’s unlikely he would negotiate a plea deal. Instead, he would go to trial and make every step of the process a platform to cast himself as a victim of a vindictive Biden administration. He would use the renewed attention to spew lies about the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election. And he would raise money, lots of money, to fund his anticipated 2024 presidential campaign.”

    “But most important, despite a mountain of evidence that would convict most people many times over, Trump would not be convicted. Criminal convictions require a unanimous verdict. On a 12-person jury, there are going to be Trump supporters.”

    Source https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/why-trump-hasnt-been-indicted/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Biggest concern via Monmouth poll: 33% inflation15% gas prices9% economy6% bills/groceries5% abortion3% guns3% health care3% unemployment2% tuition costs2% housing/rent2% safety/crime1% civil rights1% climate change1% coronavirus1% education   Where's January 6th on there?    Sorry I had to, no one of consequence is watching that shit, nor gives a shit about it.

     

    Trump is glued to the screen ...but I am with you no one of consequence or relevance...

    Wait till he isn't charged with nothing by doj....  They recommended and the  Don isn't indicted....the department of justice does nothing

    Oh the humanity.....lol

    an_wink

    Every competent prosecutor knows why Garland and the Department of Justice have not indicted Trump. I’m going to say it out loud.”

    “If Trump were charged, it’s unlikely he would negotiate a plea deal. Instead, he would go to trial and make every step of the process a platform to cast himself as a victim of a vindictive Biden administration. He would use the renewed attention to spew lies about the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election. And he would raise money, lots of money, to fund his anticipated 2024 presidential campaign.”

    “But most important, despite a mountain of evidence that would convict most people many times over, Trump would not be convicted. Criminal convictions require a unanimous verdict. On a 12-person jury, there are going to be Trump supporters.”

    Source https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/10/why-trump-hasnt-been-indicted/

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 6:35 PM ET #15

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     Same goes for Biden and boy

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    @nature1970

     Same goes for Biden and boy

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 7:19 PM ET #16

    This is the USA sorry we have a sitting unwritten rule we don't lock up our former presidents ever for any reason as much as trump tried to make this a banana republic we still don't lock up former President's. Nixon Harding Andrew Johnson .....

    We tried but never impeached one either.....

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    This is the USA sorry we have a sitting unwritten rule we don't lock up our former presidents ever for any reason as much as trump tried to make this a banana republic we still don't lock up former President's. Nixon Harding Andrew Johnson .....

    We tried but never impeached one either.....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 9:01 PM ET #17

    What a bunch of "the sky is falling" chicken littles.

    Man the fuck up!

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    What a bunch of "the sky is falling" chicken littles.

    Man the fuck up!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 9:31 PM ET #18

    I know its just the suck were used to ...

     

    Powerful people get a pass literally can kill a person and not a freaking day of court... This aint going to a grand jury . their will be no trial no one ever gets locked up but it makes fine entertainment...

    Broke equals defenseless in a court system. You cant pay for a lawyer or bail you can do life....

     

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    I know its just the suck were used to ...

     

    Powerful people get a pass literally can kill a person and not a freaking day of court... This aint going to a grand jury . their will be no trial no one ever gets locked up but it makes fine entertainment...

    Broke equals defenseless in a court system. You cant pay for a lawyer or bail you can do life....

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 10:57 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    We need to stop creating wars to constrict supply of commodities we have global warming and that's enough to contend with.... We don't need more unwanted humans placing greater demands on supply chain issues we can barely feed the population we have.....
    And that is part of the reason why the manmade virus was unleashed..but I am sure you fell right into the trap because it sounds like you are alligned with everything the state controlled media tells you.

     

    Anyway, if you haven't figured it out by now, global warming is just another way for them to trick you into thinking the Establishment is doing something for mankind. The truth is, if they cared then they would stop major corporations from polluting the Earth but the dirty money from Wall St always trumps the right thing to do.

    Liberal or conservative don't matter, only money does and it is ruining our world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    We need to stop creating wars to constrict supply of commodities we have global warming and that's enough to contend with.... We don't need more unwanted humans placing greater demands on supply chain issues we can barely feed the population we have.....
    And that is part of the reason why the manmade virus was unleashed..but I am sure you fell right into the trap because it sounds like you are alligned with everything the state controlled media tells you.

     

    Anyway, if you haven't figured it out by now, global warming is just another way for them to trick you into thinking the Establishment is doing something for mankind. The truth is, if they cared then they would stop major corporations from polluting the Earth but the dirty money from Wall St always trumps the right thing to do.

    Liberal or conservative don't matter, only money does and it is ruining our world.

     
    nature1970
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 11:15 PM ET #20

    Global warming is real.

    However it is not man made.

    Our sun goes into warming and cooling trends.

    At first I felt the higher temps during the dinosaur reign. Was being closet to the sun in our continued expansion. 

    But it seems the sun its self fluctuates in temperatures.

    A small few degree the degree is the key between ice shelf at the polls and rapidly advancing water rises.

    This coupled by now a even more uselezs term astronomically high and low tides the lunar model put a tides at a plus or minus 25 feet. Beginning now and through. 2045 this will reduce coastal lands and increase the coast line. And then mega snow storms bringing a fresh round of glaciers last glacier effecting us was called the Wisconsin glacier. This back and forth is natural and not man made.

    Pollution is man made. And I agree with the rest of what you stated. The chemicals were are creating and unleashing is directly impacting life expectancy...

    But to look to the establishment for help no I don't believe that unless they are helping themselves to our resources.....

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    Global warming is real.

    However it is not man made.

    Our sun goes into warming and cooling trends.

    At first I felt the higher temps during the dinosaur reign. Was being closet to the sun in our continued expansion. 

    But it seems the sun its self fluctuates in temperatures.

    A small few degree the degree is the key between ice shelf at the polls and rapidly advancing water rises.

    This coupled by now a even more uselezs term astronomically high and low tides the lunar model put a tides at a plus or minus 25 feet. Beginning now and through. 2045 this will reduce coastal lands and increase the coast line. And then mega snow storms bringing a fresh round of glaciers last glacier effecting us was called the Wisconsin glacier. This back and forth is natural and not man made.

    Pollution is man made. And I agree with the rest of what you stated. The chemicals were are creating and unleashing is directly impacting life expectancy...

    But to look to the establishment for help no I don't believe that unless they are helping themselves to our resources.....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2022 - 8:45 AM ET #21

    The Establishment knows and has known that anthropogenic aerosols (like burnt fossil fuel) accelerate global warming. However, they won't stop companies from polluting unless Wall St pays them to make a policy to do so. These manmade pollutants are killing people they know, poising our drinking water and ruining this beautiful planet. How unfortunate that none of them have the balls to stand up to big business and create a policy for the benefit of mankind and not a financial reward.

    It makes me sick.

     

     

     

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    The Establishment knows and has known that anthropogenic aerosols (like burnt fossil fuel) accelerate global warming. However, they won't stop companies from polluting unless Wall St pays them to make a policy to do so. These manmade pollutants are killing people they know, poising our drinking water and ruining this beautiful planet. How unfortunate that none of them have the balls to stand up to big business and create a policy for the benefit of mankind and not a financial reward.

    It makes me sick.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2022 - 9:49 AM ET #22

    @nostradumbass

     IMO,  money is power and the craving for power drives the whole thing and demand for goods. If the US shutdown the major corporations, and they have over the years to some extent, the corps move to Mexico, China, etc. Pollution continues just in a different place. Air flows across the globe, plastics found in artic ice, no place to hide.

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    @nostradumbass

     IMO,  money is power and the craving for power drives the whole thing and demand for goods. If the US shutdown the major corporations, and they have over the years to some extent, the corps move to Mexico, China, etc. Pollution continues just in a different place. Air flows across the globe, plastics found in artic ice, no place to hide.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2022 - 12:06 PM ET #23

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     I agree money is power. It's amazing what you can do with a few bucks put into the hands of people that can make things happen to your benefit. A simple example is giving the car valet a few extra bucks when you arrive at a place so your car is kept very close to the entrance. You put even more money in the hands of the maitre d & you get a great table for dinner.

    Multiply those bucks into something you REALLY want to happen & it's like magic...it happens.

    Money always talks.

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    @UNIMAN

     I agree money is power. It's amazing what you can do with a few bucks put into the hands of people that can make things happen to your benefit. A simple example is giving the car valet a few extra bucks when you arrive at a place so your car is kept very close to the entrance. You put even more money in the hands of the maitre d & you get a great table for dinner.

    Multiply those bucks into something you REALLY want to happen & it's like magic...it happens.

    Money always talks.

     
    Doja45
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2022 - 1:01 PM ET #24

    You get a great table because you eat dinner at 4 pm

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    You get a great table because you eat dinner at 4 pm

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2022 - 4:24 PM ET #25

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     And you wouldn't be allowed in the places I eat because you are trash. 

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    @Doja45

     And you wouldn't be allowed in the places I eat because you are trash. 

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