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    djbrow
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 12:52 PM ET #26

    This thread is exactly why, Constitutionally, Trump cannot be impeached for the riots. You can fault the leader for lying and the proper remedy is through the democratic process. But you cannot say that the leader is a criminal simply because a percentage of the population is not smart enough to do their own research and determine what is and is not true (and then, they in turn, make assertions that are not grounded in facts nor reality). an_light

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    This thread is exactly why, Constitutionally, Trump cannot be impeached for the riots. You can fault the leader for lying and the proper remedy is through the democratic process. But you cannot say that the leader is a criminal simply because a percentage of the population is not smart enough to do their own research and determine what is and is not true (and then, they in turn, make assertions that are not grounded in facts nor reality). an_light

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 1:32 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: ....but they are being registered to vote. The states where this is happening calls them "glitches".  So what are your thoughts on removing the valid photo ID requirement to vote? ....and nationwide mail in voting? Both of these are included in H.R.1. There are SO many problems with the H.R.1. bill that they are too numerous to list, but there is NO DOUBT that it opens the door to more voting fraud. Usually when someone says "....they are too numerous to list..." it's not very numerous at all. If it was, whatever those hypothetical things are, they would just list a few. You listed two and asked my feelings. I'm not for removing ID requirements. I support Real ID. I'm not against mail in voting, as long as we sure up the process.

    No. Not too numerous to list. FYI, the bill is public record so you have access to it. 

    1. Allows for nationwide mail in voting. 

    2. Legalizes ballot harvesting. 

    3. Allows convicted murderers and rapists to vote. 

    4. Allows internet only registration with ONLINE signature. 

    5. Removes photo ID requirement nationwide. 

    6. Gives DC statehood. 

    7. Gives minors the right to vote. 

    Just go read the damm thing yourself instead of looking for an argument. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: ....but they are being registered to vote. The states where this is happening calls them "glitches".  So what are your thoughts on removing the valid photo ID requirement to vote? ....and nationwide mail in voting? Both of these are included in H.R.1. There are SO many problems with the H.R.1. bill that they are too numerous to list, but there is NO DOUBT that it opens the door to more voting fraud. Usually when someone says "....they are too numerous to list..." it's not very numerous at all. If it was, whatever those hypothetical things are, they would just list a few. You listed two and asked my feelings. I'm not for removing ID requirements. I support Real ID. I'm not against mail in voting, as long as we sure up the process.

    No. Not too numerous to list. FYI, the bill is public record so you have access to it. 

    1. Allows for nationwide mail in voting. 

    2. Legalizes ballot harvesting. 

    3. Allows convicted murderers and rapists to vote. 

    4. Allows internet only registration with ONLINE signature. 

    5. Removes photo ID requirement nationwide. 

    6. Gives DC statehood. 

    7. Gives minors the right to vote. 

    Just go read the damm thing yourself instead of looking for an argument. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 1:44 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: ....but they are being registered to vote. The states where this is happening calls them "glitches".  So what are your thoughts on removing the valid photo ID requirement to vote? ....and nationwide mail in voting? Both of these are included in H.R.1. There are SO many problems with the H.R.1. bill that they are too numerous to list, but there is NO DOUBT that it opens the door to more voting fraud. Usually when someone says "....they are too numerous to list..." it's not very numerous at all. If it was, whatever those hypothetical things are, they would just list a few. You listed two and asked my feelings. I'm not for removing ID requirements. I support Real ID. I'm not against mail in voting, as long as we sure up the process. No. Not too numerous to list. FYI, the bill is public record so you have access to it.  1. Allows for nationwide mail in voting.  2. Legalizes ballot harvesting.  3. Allows convicted murderers and rapists to vote.  4. Allows internet only registration with ONLINE signature.  5. Removes photo ID requirement nationwide.  6. Gives DC statehood.  7. Gives minors the right to vote.  Just go read the damm thing yourself instead of looking for an argument.

     

    As usual, none of what you are saying is true. 

    For example, the bill doesn't give minors the right to vote, rather it allows them to register. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

     

    Honest question: at what point in your life did you decide not to try to be an intellectual. Was it gradual? Did you wake up one day and give up? Its not too late for you. There is still time for you to learn to read and make reasoned, factual, cohesive arguments. It just takes a little work and effort. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: ....but they are being registered to vote. The states where this is happening calls them "glitches".  So what are your thoughts on removing the valid photo ID requirement to vote? ....and nationwide mail in voting? Both of these are included in H.R.1. There are SO many problems with the H.R.1. bill that they are too numerous to list, but there is NO DOUBT that it opens the door to more voting fraud. Usually when someone says "....they are too numerous to list..." it's not very numerous at all. If it was, whatever those hypothetical things are, they would just list a few. You listed two and asked my feelings. I'm not for removing ID requirements. I support Real ID. I'm not against mail in voting, as long as we sure up the process. No. Not too numerous to list. FYI, the bill is public record so you have access to it.  1. Allows for nationwide mail in voting.  2. Legalizes ballot harvesting.  3. Allows convicted murderers and rapists to vote.  4. Allows internet only registration with ONLINE signature.  5. Removes photo ID requirement nationwide.  6. Gives DC statehood.  7. Gives minors the right to vote.  Just go read the damm thing yourself instead of looking for an argument.

     

    As usual, none of what you are saying is true. 

    For example, the bill doesn't give minors the right to vote, rather it allows them to register. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

     

    Honest question: at what point in your life did you decide not to try to be an intellectual. Was it gradual? Did you wake up one day and give up? Its not too late for you. There is still time for you to learn to read and make reasoned, factual, cohesive arguments. It just takes a little work and effort. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 1:48 PM ET #29

    @djbrow

    Honest question?

     At what point in your life did you decide to be a flunky loser working as a web referee? 

     

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    @djbrow

    Honest question?

     At what point in your life did you decide to be a flunky loser working as a web referee? 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 1:52 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    @djbrow Honest question?  At what point in your life did you decide to be a flunky loser working as a web referee?

     

    Now you see, this presents another good comparison. You see, my question was based on the uncontroverted fact that you continually post things that aren't true. 

    Whereas your question wasn't based on anything but your opinion. 

     

    Do you understand the difference? an_light

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    @djbrow Honest question?  At what point in your life did you decide to be a flunky loser working as a web referee?

     

    Now you see, this presents another good comparison. You see, my question was based on the uncontroverted fact that you continually post things that aren't true. 

    Whereas your question wasn't based on anything but your opinion. 

     

    Do you understand the difference? an_light

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 2:04 PM ET #31

    You said NONE of what I posted was true. I read the entire law and got one point incorrect, but your reaction as "flunky referee" was to provoke an argument. I am pretty sure that the way you act is not consistent with your job description. 

    Of course, it is just my opinion that people that have the "job" that you possess are losers. To me you will always be a loser.

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    You said NONE of what I posted was true. I read the entire law and got one point incorrect, but your reaction as "flunky referee" was to provoke an argument. I am pretty sure that the way you act is not consistent with your job description. 

    Of course, it is just my opinion that people that have the "job" that you possess are losers. To me you will always be a loser.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 2:20 PM ET #32

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     Actually, I pointed out that none of what you said was true. I merely gave one example. 

     

    I realize you are full of anger and bitterness. As I have said, lashing out at others just evidences your internal hatred. There is plenty of time to become a good and factual advocate and debater. It just takes a little more effort. peace_5

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    @gambleholic63

     Actually, I pointed out that none of what you said was true. I merely gave one example. 

     

    I realize you are full of anger and bitterness. As I have said, lashing out at others just evidences your internal hatred. There is plenty of time to become a good and factual advocate and debater. It just takes a little more effort. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: ....but they are being registered to vote. The states where this is happening calls them "glitches".  So what are your thoughts on removing the valid photo ID requirement to vote? ....and nationwide mail in voting? Both of these are included in H.R.1. There are SO many problems with the H.R.1. bill that they are too numerous to list, but there is NO DOUBT that it opens the door to more voting fraud. Usually when someone says "....they are too numerous to list..." it's not very numerous at all. If it was, whatever those hypothetical things are, they would just list a few. You listed two and asked my feelings. I'm not for removing ID requirements. I support Real ID. I'm not against mail in voting, as long as we sure up the process. No. Not too numerous to list. FYI, the bill is public record so you have access to it.  1. Allows for nationwide mail in voting.  2. Legalizes ballot harvesting.  3. Allows convicted murderers and rapists to vote.  4. Allows internet only registration with ONLINE signature.  5. Removes photo ID requirement nationwide.  6. Gives DC statehood.  7. Gives minors the right to vote.  Just go read the damm thing yourself instead of looking for an argument.

    Oh my god, dude, why are you acting like such a woman. What is it with this site?? You can completely get along with a guy, never have an issue, and the minute you disagree with them they flip. I'm not looking for an argument. You buried the lead. If you would have opened with,

    "The democrats are pushing this bill that has all of this horrible shite in it....

    1....

    2...."

    I would've simply said, "That's messed up. Politicians are always sneaking horrible shite in bills."

    ....but you lead with something I know to be categorically false. And I just called it out. I don't doubt that any of the things you just listed are in that bill and you should know well enough that I don't support a single one of them. This is what's wrong with these styles of political forum. You could have listed all those things and then opened a debate into the merit of each. Then someone, not me, could've responded with, "Well, I support universal mail in voting because of X, Y, Z." "I support no voter ID because of X, Y, Z." Instead you said, "...the dims want illegals automatically registered to vote when the register cars." or something like that. Such a facebook/twitter meme style gotcha post. And I hate, absolutely detest, unfounded facebook/twitter meme style gotcha posts. There always bullshit and a huge chunk of then originate from bot farms in Russia and Iran. I'll always call out that style of bullshit. What's the result? An argument with someone you always get along with who doesn't even disagree with you?" It's stupid. This is what the internet age has done. This is why social media is bad. Not because they censor people but because for years the censored and regulated next to nothing. People could say anything unchecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: ....but they are being registered to vote. The states where this is happening calls them "glitches".  So what are your thoughts on removing the valid photo ID requirement to vote? ....and nationwide mail in voting? Both of these are included in H.R.1. There are SO many problems with the H.R.1. bill that they are too numerous to list, but there is NO DOUBT that it opens the door to more voting fraud. Usually when someone says "....they are too numerous to list..." it's not very numerous at all. If it was, whatever those hypothetical things are, they would just list a few. You listed two and asked my feelings. I'm not for removing ID requirements. I support Real ID. I'm not against mail in voting, as long as we sure up the process. No. Not too numerous to list. FYI, the bill is public record so you have access to it.  1. Allows for nationwide mail in voting.  2. Legalizes ballot harvesting.  3. Allows convicted murderers and rapists to vote.  4. Allows internet only registration with ONLINE signature.  5. Removes photo ID requirement nationwide.  6. Gives DC statehood.  7. Gives minors the right to vote.  Just go read the damm thing yourself instead of looking for an argument.

    Oh my god, dude, why are you acting like such a woman. What is it with this site?? You can completely get along with a guy, never have an issue, and the minute you disagree with them they flip. I'm not looking for an argument. You buried the lead. If you would have opened with,

    "The democrats are pushing this bill that has all of this horrible shite in it....

    1....

    2...."

    I would've simply said, "That's messed up. Politicians are always sneaking horrible shite in bills."

    ....but you lead with something I know to be categorically false. And I just called it out. I don't doubt that any of the things you just listed are in that bill and you should know well enough that I don't support a single one of them. This is what's wrong with these styles of political forum. You could have listed all those things and then opened a debate into the merit of each. Then someone, not me, could've responded with, "Well, I support universal mail in voting because of X, Y, Z." "I support no voter ID because of X, Y, Z." Instead you said, "...the dims want illegals automatically registered to vote when the register cars." or something like that. Such a facebook/twitter meme style gotcha post. And I hate, absolutely detest, unfounded facebook/twitter meme style gotcha posts. There always bullshit and a huge chunk of then originate from bot farms in Russia and Iran. I'll always call out that style of bullshit. What's the result? An argument with someone you always get along with who doesn't even disagree with you?" It's stupid. This is what the internet age has done. This is why social media is bad. Not because they censor people but because for years the censored and regulated next to nothing. People could say anything unchecked.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 3:20 PM ET #34

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     ....but yeah, all that stuff is pretty horrendous. Congress sneaks some pretty f'd up stuff through hidden in bills and they give them fancy and endearing names so that the masses never question them. The Patriot Act is one of the most famous. The Patriot Act was all kinds of messed up but who's gonna question "The Patriot Act" right after 9/11. They had that thing on the shelf for years. They knew they'd never be able to get it through.... until the did.

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    @gambleholic63

     ....but yeah, all that stuff is pretty horrendous. Congress sneaks some pretty f'd up stuff through hidden in bills and they give them fancy and endearing names so that the masses never question them. The Patriot Act is one of the most famous. The Patriot Act was all kinds of messed up but who's gonna question "The Patriot Act" right after 9/11. They had that thing on the shelf for years. They knew they'd never be able to get it through.... until the did.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 4:11 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Not a single LIbtard has mentioned the scam that Biden played on the people with his $15 minimum wage promise. Over the weekend Dementia Joe had his puppet strings adjusted so he changed his policy to include Federal employees only.

    The Royal Scam continues.....

    Huh?!   OMG   an_brick

    It always *WAS* known to be applied only to "federal employees"  because we/he knows he cannot MANDATE what the states do re: wages.  He certainly can encourage them on whatever policies and/or guidelines, but can't mandate that one. 

    ERGO, there is no "alleged"  SCAM here.....

    Once again, misleading/false information from alcoholic63

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Not a single LIbtard has mentioned the scam that Biden played on the people with his $15 minimum wage promise. Over the weekend Dementia Joe had his puppet strings adjusted so he changed his policy to include Federal employees only.

    The Royal Scam continues.....

    Huh?!   OMG   an_brick

    It always *WAS* known to be applied only to "federal employees"  because we/he knows he cannot MANDATE what the states do re: wages.  He certainly can encourage them on whatever policies and/or guidelines, but can't mandate that one. 

    ERGO, there is no "alleged"  SCAM here.....

    Once again, misleading/false information from alcoholic63

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 4:14 PM ET #36

    @StumpTownStu

     peace_5

    I feel very strongly about the damage the Lib's are doing to this country. Don't mean to be crossing your path in a confrontational manner, and don't really think we are at each others throats at the moment. The bill is garbage and if it passes will basically legalize election fraud. 

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    @StumpTownStu

     peace_5

    I feel very strongly about the damage the Lib's are doing to this country. Don't mean to be crossing your path in a confrontational manner, and don't really think we are at each others throats at the moment. The bill is garbage and if it passes will basically legalize election fraud. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 4:14 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: @StumpTownStu  Just do some research on what has already occurred in CA and NV. You talk like you know everything about everything. Guess what? You don't.

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    Post some links for me.
    All I asked was a question.
    I don't act like I know everything. I act like people on the internet often twist facts.
    If this doesn't describe you, you would've simply answered the question instead of working yourself into a tizzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: @StumpTownStu  Just do some research on what has already occurred in CA and NV. You talk like you know everything about everything. Guess what? You don't.

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    Post some links for me.
    All I asked was a question.
    I don't act like I know everything. I act like people on the internet often twist facts.
    If this doesn't describe you, you would've simply answered the question instead of working yourself into a tizzy.

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 4:19 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @gambleholic63  You see, gamble, in the real world you have to back up the things you claim.
    In the internet world, you can make baseless claims,  twist facts,  and
    spread all out falsehoods and they are like embers in the wind.
    Usually they just die out and turn to dust. Sometimes the start fires. So one should be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @gambleholic63  You see, gamble, in the real world you have to back up the things you claim.
    In the internet world, you can make baseless claims,  twist facts,  and
    spread all out falsehoods and they are like embers in the wind.
    Usually they just die out and turn to dust. Sometimes the start fires. So one should be careful.

                       peace_5      an_clap

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 4:22 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @gambleholic63

     So many states have policies that register you to vote when you register a car. Oregon is one of them. And some states have loopholes that allow you to register a car as an illegal but you would still be ineligible to register to vote. S.R.1 doesn't change this. You would still have to be legally eligible to vote. The loopholes that allow illegals to register cars (in California it's not a loophole) are simply because they are here and they are driving. So to protect the citizens, it's makes sense to have them able to obtain insurance. None of this grants illegals the ability or right to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @gambleholic63

     So many states have policies that register you to vote when you register a car. Oregon is one of them. And some states have loopholes that allow you to register a car as an illegal but you would still be ineligible to register to vote. S.R.1 doesn't change this. You would still have to be legally eligible to vote. The loopholes that allow illegals to register cars (in California it's not a loophole) are simply because they are here and they are driving. So to protect the citizens, it's makes sense to have them able to obtain insurance. None of this grants illegals the ability or right to vote.

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 4:55 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: @djbrow Honest question?  At what point in your life did you decide to be a flunky loser working as a web referee? 

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    Now you see, this presents another good comparison.

    You see, my question was based on the uncontroverted fact that

    you continually post things that aren't true. 

     

    Whereas your question wasn't based on anything,   but your opinion. 

    Do you understand the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: @djbrow Honest question?  At what point in your life did you decide to be a flunky loser working as a web referee? 

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    Now you see, this presents another good comparison.

    You see, my question was based on the uncontroverted fact that

    you continually post things that aren't true. 

     

    Whereas your question wasn't based on anything,   but your opinion. 

    Do you understand the difference?

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 5:28 PM ET #41

    [Quote: Originally Posted by gambleholic63]You said NONE of what I posted was true. I read the entire law and got one point incorrect, but your reaction as "flunky referee" was to provoke an argument. [/Quote] 

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    Laughable, because almost everything alcoholic63 posts on this forum is "to provoke an argument"

     

    [Quote: Originally Posted by gambleholic63]I am pretty sure that the way you act is not consistent with your job description.[/Quote] 

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    Laughable, since as a Covers member here all mods are entitled to post their comments too, not being specifically held to *ONLY* the role of a moderator........Surely, even any fool can understand this

     

     

    [Quote: Originally Posted by gambleholic63]Of course, it is just my opinion that people that have the "job" that you possess are losers. To me you will always be a loser.[/Quote]

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    Hmmmmm......a classic case of the turkey-vulture calling the swan ugly

    Typical adhominem attack of a loser...

     

     

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by gambleholic63]You said NONE of what I posted was true. I read the entire law and got one point incorrect, but your reaction as "flunky referee" was to provoke an argument. [/Quote] 

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    Laughable, because almost everything alcoholic63 posts on this forum is "to provoke an argument"

     

    [Quote: Originally Posted by gambleholic63]I am pretty sure that the way you act is not consistent with your job description.[/Quote] 

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    Laughable, since as a Covers member here all mods are entitled to post their comments too, not being specifically held to *ONLY* the role of a moderator........Surely, even any fool can understand this

     

     

    [Quote: Originally Posted by gambleholic63]Of course, it is just my opinion that people that have the "job" that you possess are losers. To me you will always be a loser.[/Quote]

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    Hmmmmm......a classic case of the turkey-vulture calling the swan ugly

    Typical adhominem attack of a loser...

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 5:37 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Posted by gambleholic63:  "7.Gives minors the right to vote.  Just go read the damm thing yourself instead of looking for an argument."

     

     

    Oh my god, dude, why are you acting like such a woman.
    What is it with this site?? You can completely get along with a guy, never have an issue,
    and the minute you disagree with them they flip.
    I'm not looking for an argument. YOU buried the lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Posted by gambleholic63:  "7.Gives minors the right to vote.  Just go read the damm thing yourself instead of looking for an argument."

     

     

    Oh my god, dude, why are you acting like such a woman.
    What is it with this site?? You can completely get along with a guy, never have an issue,
    and the minute you disagree with them they flip.
    I'm not looking for an argument. YOU buried the lead.

                  peace    an_light    peace    peace_5

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2021 - 5:47 PM ET #43

    @StumpTownStu  wrote:

     "...but you (gambleholic63) lead with something I know to be categorically false.   And I just called it out."

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    @StumpTownStu  wrote:

     "...but you (gambleholic63) lead with something I know to be categorically false.   And I just called it out."

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