Russia going to have some very serious issues the next few months if Putin doesn't completely withdraw and including any sham government he tries to install.
I feel for the Russian general population. They don't deserve this -- caused entirely by Putin.
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Russia going to have some very serious issues the next few months if Putin doesn't completely withdraw and including any sham government he tries to install.
I feel for the Russian general population. They don't deserve this -- caused entirely by Putin.
Slow Joe could stand up there and make fish faces for an hour while letting his steaming bowel incontinence pool around his feet, and leftists would still line up to happily lick his taint.
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Slow Joe could stand up there and make fish faces for an hour while letting his steaming bowel incontinence pool around his feet, and leftists would still line up to happily lick his taint.
Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Yes it is nice.... however this all could have been prevented...definitely do not want ww 3 And the spreading of the covid virus all over the country in 2020 which ultimately led to the deaths of nearly 1 MILLION Americans because of trump, could have been prevented And trump could have prevented Putin from feeling emboldened to do whatever he wants And the surrender deal by Pompeo in Afghanistan which ultimately led to the deaths of 13 Americans could have been prevented And Hitler's genocide could have been prevented And Japan's conquest of China could have been prevented And the American civil war could have been prevented And the murder of George Floyd could have been prevented **And 9/11 could have been prevented ***The 20 year war in the east by the republicans, could have been prevented And trump's attempt to overthrow the government could have been prevented And trump saying stupid shit like injecting bleach, could have been prevented **The loss of 20 MILLION jobs and 14.7% unemployment in America could have been prevented! .......blah, blah, effing blah If only we had competent LEADERSHIP that did NOT embolden Putin to make plans for 4 years to invade Ukraine, it all could have been prevented.
wow, how seriously and hilariously demented.
Just wow
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Yes it is nice.... however this all could have been prevented...definitely do not want ww 3 And the spreading of the covid virus all over the country in 2020 which ultimately led to the deaths of nearly 1 MILLION Americans because of trump, could have been prevented And trump could have prevented Putin from feeling emboldened to do whatever he wants And the surrender deal by Pompeo in Afghanistan which ultimately led to the deaths of 13 Americans could have been prevented And Hitler's genocide could have been prevented And Japan's conquest of China could have been prevented And the American civil war could have been prevented And the murder of George Floyd could have been prevented **And 9/11 could have been prevented ***The 20 year war in the east by the republicans, could have been prevented And trump's attempt to overthrow the government could have been prevented And trump saying stupid shit like injecting bleach, could have been prevented **The loss of 20 MILLION jobs and 14.7% unemployment in America could have been prevented! .......blah, blah, effing blah If only we had competent LEADERSHIP that did NOT embolden Putin to make plans for 4 years to invade Ukraine, it all could have been prevented.
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Russia going to have some very serious issues the next few months if Putin doesn't completely withdraw and including any sham government he tries to install.
I feel for the Russian general population. They don't deserve this -- caused entirely by Putin.
i agree fubah this sucks for those people and its going to get progressively worse since the sanctions effect has only begun
thousands of russian citizens have been arrested protesting putins decision to wage a senseless war
this is unprecedented at this level in decades
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Russia going to have some very serious issues the next few months if Putin doesn't completely withdraw and including any sham government he tries to install.
I feel for the Russian general population. They don't deserve this -- caused entirely by Putin.
i agree fubah this sucks for those people and its going to get progressively worse since the sanctions effect has only begun
thousands of russian citizens have been arrested protesting putins decision to wage a senseless war
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Russia going to have some very serious issues the next few months if Putin doesn't completely withdraw and including any sham government he tries to install. I feel for the Russian general population. They don't deserve this -- caused entirely by Putin.
Exactly, that's how autocracy can bring dire disaster to the people of that country by a dictator or tyranny.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Russia going to have some very serious issues the next few months if Putin doesn't completely withdraw and including any sham government he tries to install. I feel for the Russian general population. They don't deserve this -- caused entirely by Putin.
Exactly, that's how autocracy can bring dire disaster to the people of that country by a dictator or tyranny.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Russia going to have some very serious issues the next few months if Putin doesn't completely withdraw and including any sham government he tries to install. I feel for the Russian general population. They don't deserve this -- caused entirely by Putin.
Exactly, that's how autocracy can bring dire disaster to the people of that country by a dictator or tyranny.
Europa with the FACTS!!
And we know of this firsthand since we had the beginnings of a similar "autocracy" here January 21, 2017 to Jan 19, 2021
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Russia going to have some very serious issues the next few months if Putin doesn't completely withdraw and including any sham government he tries to install. I feel for the Russian general population. They don't deserve this -- caused entirely by Putin.
Exactly, that's how autocracy can bring dire disaster to the people of that country by a dictator or tyranny.
Europa with the FACTS!!
And we know of this firsthand since we had the beginnings of a similar "autocracy" here January 21, 2017 to Jan 19, 2021
“Conditions in the Russian financial system and wider economy are likely to deteriorate further in the days and weeks ahead as the already announced sanctions take their toll and future sanctions add to the sustained negative shock,” wrote Berenberg senior economist Kallum Pickering in a research note Wednesday.
“For the foreseeable future, Russia will remain isolated from the western world and major global markets.”
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HEADLINES TODAY:
Biden sanctions effective
“Conditions in the Russian financial system and wider economy are likely to deteriorate further in the days and weeks ahead as the already announced sanctions take their toll and future sanctions add to the sustained negative shock,” wrote Berenberg senior economist Kallum Pickering in a research note Wednesday.
“For the foreseeable future, Russia will remain isolated from the western world and major global markets.”
HEADLINES TODAY: Biden sanctions effective “Conditions in the Russian financial system and wider economy are likely to deteriorate further in the days and weeks ahead as the already announced sanctions take their toll and future sanctions add to the sustained negative shock,” wrote Berenberg senior economist Kallum Pickering in a research note Wednesday. “For the foreseeable future, Russia will remain isolated from the western world and major global markets.”
joe biden
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
HEADLINES TODAY: Biden sanctions effective “Conditions in the Russian financial system and wider economy are likely to deteriorate further in the days and weeks ahead as the already announced sanctions take their toll and future sanctions add to the sustained negative shock,” wrote Berenberg senior economist Kallum Pickering in a research note Wednesday. “For the foreseeable future, Russia will remain isolated from the western world and major global markets.”
“Conditions in the Russian financial system and wider economy are likely to deteriorate further in the days and weeks ahead as the already announced sanctions take their toll and future sanctions add to the sustained negative shock,” wrote Berenberg senior economist Kallum Pickering in a research note Wednesday.
“For the foreseeable future, Russia will remain isolated from the western world and major global markets.”
Russia’s energy riches have not been directly targeted by Western sanctions, but many of the world’s biggest oil companies are quitting the country or halting new investments.
ExxonMobil said Tuesday that it was quitting its last project in the country, Sakhalin-1 — which was billed as “one of the largest single international direct investments in Russia.” The company’s exodus will end its presence of more than 25 years in Russia.
BP (BP), Shell (RDSA) and Norway’s Equinor have all said this week they will exit their Russian businesses at a likely hit of billions of dollars to their balance sheets. France’s TotalEnergies (TOT) has halted new investments.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
HEADLINES TODAY:
Biden sanctions effective!
“Conditions in the Russian financial system and wider economy are likely to deteriorate further in the days and weeks ahead as the already announced sanctions take their toll and future sanctions add to the sustained negative shock,” wrote Berenberg senior economist Kallum Pickering in a research note Wednesday.
“For the foreseeable future, Russia will remain isolated from the western world and major global markets.”
Russia’s energy riches have not been directly targeted by Western sanctions, but many of the world’s biggest oil companies are quitting the country or halting new investments.
ExxonMobil said Tuesday that it was quitting its last project in the country, Sakhalin-1 — which was billed as “one of the largest single international direct investments in Russia.” The company’s exodus will end its presence of more than 25 years in Russia.
BP (BP), Shell (RDSA) and Norway’s Equinor have all said this week they will exit their Russian businesses at a likely hit of billions of dollars to their balance sheets. France’s TotalEnergies (TOT) has halted new investments.
Russia’s currency plunged by about 25% Monday, and one ruble is now worth less than a penny. The weakened ruble will probably exacerbate inflation, which was already well above the central bank’s target before Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
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Russia’s currency plunged by about 25% Monday, and one ruble is now worth less than a penny. The weakened ruble will probably exacerbate inflation, which was already well above the central bank’s target before Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
Russia’s currency plunged by about 25% Monday, and one ruble is now worth less than a penny. The weakened ruble will probably exacerbate inflation, which was already well above the central bank’s target before Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
(*followup to story reported by Europa earlier!)
Mastercard, Visa halt all Russian operations
Two of the largest operators of payment cards announced Saturday they are halting transactions in Russia. Visa and Mastercard said they will boot any cards issued by Russian banks off their networks and not allow their cards issued outside of Russia to work with Russian vendors or ATMs.
"We don’t take this decision lightly," Mastercard said in a press release.
The two companies previously blocked a number of Russian institutions from their payment networks as a result of sanctions taken against the country in response to its invasion of Ukraine.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on U.S. lawmakers to suspend credit card access in Russia on a Zoom call with Congress earlier Saturday.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Russia’s currency plunged by about 25% Monday, and one ruble is now worth less than a penny. The weakened ruble will probably exacerbate inflation, which was already well above the central bank’s target before Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
(*followup to story reported by Europa earlier!)
Mastercard, Visa halt all Russian operations
Two of the largest operators of payment cards announced Saturday they are halting transactions in Russia. Visa and Mastercard said they will boot any cards issued by Russian banks off their networks and not allow their cards issued outside of Russia to work with Russian vendors or ATMs.
"We don’t take this decision lightly," Mastercard said in a press release.
The two companies previously blocked a number of Russian institutions from their payment networks as a result of sanctions taken against the country in response to its invasion of Ukraine.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on U.S. lawmakers to suspend credit card access in Russia on a Zoom call with Congress earlier Saturday.
Two of the largest operators of payment cards announced Saturday they are halting transactions in Russia. Visa and Mastercard said they will boot any cards issued by Russian banks off their networks and not allow their cards issued outside of Russia to work with Russian vendors or ATMs.
"We don’t take this decision lightly," Mastercard said in a press release.
The two companies previously blocked a number of Russian institutions from their payment networks as a result of sanctions taken against the country in response to its invasion of Ukraine.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on U.S. lawmakers to suspend credit card access in Russia on a Zoom call with Congress earlier Saturday.
American Express has today suspended operations in Russia and Belarus, joining VISA and MasterCard
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
(*followup to story reported by Europa earlier!)
Mastercard, Visa halt all Russian operations
Two of the largest operators of payment cards announced Saturday they are halting transactions in Russia. Visa and Mastercard said they will boot any cards issued by Russian banks off their networks and not allow their cards issued outside of Russia to work with Russian vendors or ATMs.
"We don’t take this decision lightly," Mastercard said in a press release.
The two companies previously blocked a number of Russian institutions from their payment networks as a result of sanctions taken against the country in response to its invasion of Ukraine.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called on U.S. lawmakers to suspend credit card access in Russia on a Zoom call with Congress earlier Saturday.
American Express has today suspended operations in Russia and Belarus, joining VISA and MasterCard
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Thank God we have a government now in the WH that is not STUPID ENOUGH to impose a "no fly zone" over Ukraine!
what makes u say that bro ? i was kinda thinking maybe they should
Because then Putin would deliberately challenge it (then lie about that of course) which would force us to enforce it. And the only way to do that is to shoot down the violator (if Russian or ally) -- which would lead to nuclear war
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Thank God we have a government now in the WH that is not STUPID ENOUGH to impose a "no fly zone" over Ukraine!
what makes u say that bro ? i was kinda thinking maybe they should
Because then Putin would deliberately challenge it (then lie about that of course) which would force us to enforce it. And the only way to do that is to shoot down the violator (if Russian or ally) -- which would lead to nuclear war
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Thank God we have a government now in the WH that is not STUPID ENOUGH to impose a "no fly zone" over Ukraine!
what makes u say that bro ? i was kinda thinking maybe they should
Because then Putin would deliberately challenge it (then lie about that of course) which would force us to enforce it. And the only way to do that is to shoot down the violator (if Russian or ally) -- which would lead to nuclear war
there is that possibility though i dont know how likely that is
so what if the another country imposes a no fly zone and we stand completely clear of that ? maybe germany or UK ?
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Thank God we have a government now in the WH that is not STUPID ENOUGH to impose a "no fly zone" over Ukraine!
what makes u say that bro ? i was kinda thinking maybe they should
Because then Putin would deliberately challenge it (then lie about that of course) which would force us to enforce it. And the only way to do that is to shoot down the violator (if Russian or ally) -- which would lead to nuclear war
there is that possibility though i dont know how likely that is
so what if the another country imposes a no fly zone and we stand completely clear of that ? maybe germany or UK ?
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Thank God we have a government now in the WH that is not STUPID ENOUGH to impose a "no fly zone" over Ukraine!
what makes u say that bro ? i was kinda thinking maybe they should
Because then Putin would deliberately challenge it (then lie about that of course) which would force us to enforce it. And the only way to do that is to shoot down the violator (if Russian or ally) -- which would lead to nuclear war
there is that possibility though i dont know how likely that is
so what if the another country imposes a no fly zone and we stand completely clear of that ? maybe germany or UK ?
Well, just follow that through to its logical conclusion: if any NATO ally (or the UN, or EU) was to impose **AND ENFORCE** a "no fly zone" the result is virtually the same since, Putin would direct his planes to shoot back AT A NATO ALLY.....that brings us into it regardless.....then that leads to nuclear war -- killing just about all of us within 24 hrs of the first ICBM launch.
A "no fly zone" is simply not tenable. But supplying the Ukrainians with advanced anti-aircraft missle-batteries and "stingers" is
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Thank God we have a government now in the WH that is not STUPID ENOUGH to impose a "no fly zone" over Ukraine!
what makes u say that bro ? i was kinda thinking maybe they should
Because then Putin would deliberately challenge it (then lie about that of course) which would force us to enforce it. And the only way to do that is to shoot down the violator (if Russian or ally) -- which would lead to nuclear war
there is that possibility though i dont know how likely that is
so what if the another country imposes a no fly zone and we stand completely clear of that ? maybe germany or UK ?
Well, just follow that through to its logical conclusion: if any NATO ally (or the UN, or EU) was to impose **AND ENFORCE** a "no fly zone" the result is virtually the same since, Putin would direct his planes to shoot back AT A NATO ALLY.....that brings us into it regardless.....then that leads to nuclear war -- killing just about all of us within 24 hrs of the first ICBM launch.
A "no fly zone" is simply not tenable. But supplying the Ukrainians with advanced anti-aircraft missle-batteries and "stingers" is
According to Washington post, Trump gave Putin what he wanted. Withholding of military aid to Ukraine is a sign of weakness that emboldens Putin. Bolton reveals that Putin waited to attack Ukraine because he was waiting for Trump to withdraw US from NATO in his second term. But what a difference a election made. As president, Biden has strengthen NATO. US intelligence warning of invasion has stripped Russia of any advantage of surprise. Once fighting started, US and other countries quickly send military arms and supplies to Ukraine. Putin probably didn't expect such collective resistance.
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According to Washington post, Trump gave Putin what he wanted. Withholding of military aid to Ukraine is a sign of weakness that emboldens Putin. Bolton reveals that Putin waited to attack Ukraine because he was waiting for Trump to withdraw US from NATO in his second term. But what a difference a election made. As president, Biden has strengthen NATO. US intelligence warning of invasion has stripped Russia of any advantage of surprise. Once fighting started, US and other countries quickly send military arms and supplies to Ukraine. Putin probably didn't expect such collective resistance.
Nato can not defeat china Russia Iran and north korea that's what will happen if nato and usa gets deeply involved the santions is just kids stuff Russia got plenty of back up from china and other's we talk about not buying Russia oil better hope Russia doesn't stop selling us oil
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Nato can not defeat china Russia Iran and north korea that's what will happen if nato and usa gets deeply involved the santions is just kids stuff Russia got plenty of back up from china and other's we talk about not buying Russia oil better hope Russia doesn't stop selling us oil
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:so what if the another country imposes a no fly zone and we stand completely clear of that ? maybe germany or UK ?
Well, just follow that through to its logical conclusion: if any NATO ally (or the UN, or EU) was to impose **AND ENFORCE** a "no fly zone" the result is virtually the same since, Putin would direct his planes to shoot back AT A NATO ALLY.....that brings us into it regardless.....then that leads to nuclear war -- killing just about all of us within 24 hrs of the first ICBM launch. A "no fly zone" is simply not tenable. But supplying the Ukrainians with advanced anti-aircraft missle-batteries and "stingers" is
makes sense
i see today where putin is trying to write the narrative that any further aggression by russian forces and all the deaths to come will b totally ukraines fault for not bowing bfor the terrorist dictator and giving him everything he demands
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:so what if the another country imposes a no fly zone and we stand completely clear of that ? maybe germany or UK ?
Well, just follow that through to its logical conclusion: if any NATO ally (or the UN, or EU) was to impose **AND ENFORCE** a "no fly zone" the result is virtually the same since, Putin would direct his planes to shoot back AT A NATO ALLY.....that brings us into it regardless.....then that leads to nuclear war -- killing just about all of us within 24 hrs of the first ICBM launch. A "no fly zone" is simply not tenable. But supplying the Ukrainians with advanced anti-aircraft missle-batteries and "stingers" is
makes sense
i see today where putin is trying to write the narrative that any further aggression by russian forces and all the deaths to come will b totally ukraines fault for not bowing bfor the terrorist dictator and giving him everything he demands
"Today I am announcing the United States is targeting the main artery of Russia's economy. We're banning all imports of Russian oil and gas and energy," Biden said in remarks from the White House.
"That means Russian oil will no longer be acceptable at US ports and the American people will deal another powerful blow to Putin's war machine."
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Followup to what EUROPA posted earlier:
Biden announces tougher stance
"Today I am announcing the United States is targeting the main artery of Russia's economy. We're banning all imports of Russian oil and gas and energy," Biden said in remarks from the White House.
"That means Russian oil will no longer be acceptable at US ports and the American people will deal another powerful blow to Putin's war machine."
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