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    Jury finds Trump GUILTY!!!

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    Sidehatch
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    Posted: May. 31, 2024 - 1:07 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    FREE FATHER TERESA

    new_laugh_sweat legit funny, thanks for the laugh fubah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    FREE FATHER TERESA

    new_laugh_sweat legit funny, thanks for the laugh fubah

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2024 - 1:08 PM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: FREE FATHER TERESA  legit funny, thanks for the laugh fubah
    whoops, thanks midnight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: FREE FATHER TERESA  legit funny, thanks for the laugh fubah
    whoops, thanks midnight

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2024 - 1:13 PM ET #128

    Justice!  Conviction of Trump is a win for the rule of law. The trial was fair.  To say it is rigged is misleading.  Former Trump lawyer Cobbs say the jury really had no choice but to declare guilty verdicts.  Prosecution was successful in proving Trump falsified business records and that he did so intending to commit a crime. The evidences linking Trump to the crime was strong.  Defense never had a story that the jury could accept.  Also flawed strategy to deny everything and attack everyone. 

    Republican Hogan urges all Americans to respect the verdict and legal process.  Trump supporters shouldn't allow his disgraceful rhetoric incite them to disgraceful violence.   Trump joins a long list of leaders in at least 78 countries that have been prosecuted.  For examples, France, Italy, South Korea, Brazil, etc.

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    Justice!  Conviction of Trump is a win for the rule of law. The trial was fair.  To say it is rigged is misleading.  Former Trump lawyer Cobbs say the jury really had no choice but to declare guilty verdicts.  Prosecution was successful in proving Trump falsified business records and that he did so intending to commit a crime. The evidences linking Trump to the crime was strong.  Defense never had a story that the jury could accept.  Also flawed strategy to deny everything and attack everyone. 

    Republican Hogan urges all Americans to respect the verdict and legal process.  Trump supporters shouldn't allow his disgraceful rhetoric incite them to disgraceful violence.   Trump joins a long list of leaders in at least 78 countries that have been prosecuted.  For examples, France, Italy, South Korea, Brazil, etc.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2024 - 3:03 PM ET #129

    Trump just moved from -120 to -138 on 365. None of this seems to be affecting either his polling numbers or his odds on sportbooks. At least not negatively anyway.

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    Trump just moved from -120 to -138 on 365. None of this seems to be affecting either his polling numbers or his odds on sportbooks. At least not negatively anyway.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2024 - 5:06 PM ET #130

    Just in time for Father's Day, now both Ivanka & Jared have convicted felons for fathers.

    The judges selected to hear the appeal are all women who happen to be black. The POS hasn't experienced any luck with black women in authority.

    Scooby will tell you that most New Yorkers despise the lying thieving POS.

    Even if Trump does time, the gutless GOP cowards will still be terrified of him.

    The only person the POS hasn't complained about is David Pecker & that's probably because he still has shitty shit on the POS.

     

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    Just in time for Father's Day, now both Ivanka & Jared have convicted felons for fathers.

    The judges selected to hear the appeal are all women who happen to be black. The POS hasn't experienced any luck with black women in authority.

    Scooby will tell you that most New Yorkers despise the lying thieving POS.

    Even if Trump does time, the gutless GOP cowards will still be terrified of him.

    The only person the POS hasn't complained about is David Pecker & that's probably because he still has shitty shit on the POS.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2024 - 6:23 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Just in time for Father's Day, now both Ivanka & Jared have convicted felons for fathers.

    @Midnight1

    Yep.....all part of the extended Trump Crime Family.

     

    So a brief recap of a few major events the past year involving the exalted leader of the formerly respectable republican party:

     

    •  trump LOSES civil defamation suit for $5 million, whereby to achieve the verdict the jury had to first agree that trump is a gawdamn sex-offender

    •  trump is arrested in 4 different jurisdictions for his "alleged" criminal activity, including RICO charges of organized criminal activity to overturn the American voter's choice in 2020

    •  the mugshot of the disgraced leader of the GOP - known as Inmate No. P01135809 https://tinyurl.com/mwsveebc - is headlined all over the planet (the world is laughing at donald trump)

    •  trump in court on massive FRAUD charges, found guilty, and penalized nearly $500 MILLION

    •  trump repeats his defamation of the woman he raped and is hauled into court *AGAIN* - this time found guilty to the tune of $83 MILLION in damages for his repeated lies

    •  major survey of Political science experts and Presidential Historians AGREE trump is the worst president in US history - and by a wide margin.  They deem Joe Biden the 14th best, behind Obama, who was deemed 7th best.

    • "TRUMP on TRIAL" an_dance... a jury in Manhattan - who were approved by trump's attorneys - unanimously and beyond a reasonable doubt AGREE trump is guilty of FELONY FRAUD (which revolved around him LYING to conceal his sordid sex scandal with a porn star specifically to influence the 2016 election)

    •  the POS FASCIST/fraud/sex-offender/ cult leader of the MAGA party is now a CONVICTED FELON - also broadcast all over the planet!

     

    ....sentencing of the disgraced REPUBLICAN CRIMINAL in July

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Just in time for Father's Day, now both Ivanka & Jared have convicted felons for fathers.

    @Midnight1

    Yep.....all part of the extended Trump Crime Family.

     

    So a brief recap of a few major events the past year involving the exalted leader of the formerly respectable republican party:

     

    •  trump LOSES civil defamation suit for $5 million, whereby to achieve the verdict the jury had to first agree that trump is a gawdamn sex-offender

    •  trump is arrested in 4 different jurisdictions for his "alleged" criminal activity, including RICO charges of organized criminal activity to overturn the American voter's choice in 2020

    •  the mugshot of the disgraced leader of the GOP - known as Inmate No. P01135809 https://tinyurl.com/mwsveebc - is headlined all over the planet (the world is laughing at donald trump)

    •  trump in court on massive FRAUD charges, found guilty, and penalized nearly $500 MILLION

    •  trump repeats his defamation of the woman he raped and is hauled into court *AGAIN* - this time found guilty to the tune of $83 MILLION in damages for his repeated lies

    •  major survey of Political science experts and Presidential Historians AGREE trump is the worst president in US history - and by a wide margin.  They deem Joe Biden the 14th best, behind Obama, who was deemed 7th best.

    • "TRUMP on TRIAL" an_dance... a jury in Manhattan - who were approved by trump's attorneys - unanimously and beyond a reasonable doubt AGREE trump is guilty of FELONY FRAUD (which revolved around him LYING to conceal his sordid sex scandal with a porn star specifically to influence the 2016 election)

    •  the POS FASCIST/fraud/sex-offender/ cult leader of the MAGA party is now a CONVICTED FELON - also broadcast all over the planet!

     

    ....sentencing of the disgraced REPUBLICAN CRIMINAL in July

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2024 - 6:28 PM ET #132

     All while the Dementia Joe admin. destroys the country......yeah, let's worry about Trump. an_getaway

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     All while the Dementia Joe admin. destroys the country......yeah, let's worry about Trump. an_getaway

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2024 - 6:36 PM ET #133

    [Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Just in time for Father's Day, now both Ivanka & Jared have convicted felons for fathers.

    @Midnight1

    Yep.....all part of the extended Trump Crime Family.

    So a brief recap of a few major events the past year involving the exalted leader of the formerly respectable republican party:

     

    •  trump LOSES civil defamation suit for $5 million, whereby to achieve the verdict the jury had to first agree that trump is a gawdamn sex-offender

    •  trump is arrested in 4 different jurisdictions for his "alleged" criminal activity, including RICO charges of organized criminal activity to overturn the American voter's choice in 2020

    •  the mugshot of the disgraced leader of the GOP - known as Inmate No. P01135809 https://tinyurl.com/mwsveebc - is headlined all over the planet (the world is laughing at donald trump)

    •  trump in court on massive FRAUD charges, found guilty, and penalized nearly $500 MILLION

    •  trump repeats his defamation of the woman he raped and is hauled into court *AGAIN* - this time found guilty to the tune of $83 MILLION in damages for his repeated lies

     

    an_police   major survey of Political science experts and Presidential Historians AGREE trump is the worst president in US history - and by a wide margin. 

    They deem Joe Biden the 14th best!

     

    • "TRUMP on TRIAL" an_dance... a jury in Manhattan - who were approved by trump's attorneys - unanimously and beyond a reasonable doubt AGREE trump is guilty of FELONY FRAUD (which revolved around him LYING to conceal his sordid sex scandal with a porn star specifically to influence the 2016 election)

    •  the POS FASCIST/fraud/sex-offender/ cult leader of the MAGA party is now a CONVICTED FELON - also broadcast all over the planet!

    ....sentencing of the disgraced REPUBLICAN CRIMINAL in July

     

    *Forgot to add that trump was also found GUILTY of criminal contempt of court, which the judge has yet to rule on - and may or may not add this to sentencing

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Just in time for Father's Day, now both Ivanka & Jared have convicted felons for fathers.

    @Midnight1

    Yep.....all part of the extended Trump Crime Family.

    So a brief recap of a few major events the past year involving the exalted leader of the formerly respectable republican party:

     

    •  trump LOSES civil defamation suit for $5 million, whereby to achieve the verdict the jury had to first agree that trump is a gawdamn sex-offender

    •  trump is arrested in 4 different jurisdictions for his "alleged" criminal activity, including RICO charges of organized criminal activity to overturn the American voter's choice in 2020

    •  the mugshot of the disgraced leader of the GOP - known as Inmate No. P01135809 https://tinyurl.com/mwsveebc - is headlined all over the planet (the world is laughing at donald trump)

    •  trump in court on massive FRAUD charges, found guilty, and penalized nearly $500 MILLION

    •  trump repeats his defamation of the woman he raped and is hauled into court *AGAIN* - this time found guilty to the tune of $83 MILLION in damages for his repeated lies

     

    an_police   major survey of Political science experts and Presidential Historians AGREE trump is the worst president in US history - and by a wide margin. 

    They deem Joe Biden the 14th best!

     

    • "TRUMP on TRIAL" an_dance... a jury in Manhattan - who were approved by trump's attorneys - unanimously and beyond a reasonable doubt AGREE trump is guilty of FELONY FRAUD (which revolved around him LYING to conceal his sordid sex scandal with a porn star specifically to influence the 2016 election)

    •  the POS FASCIST/fraud/sex-offender/ cult leader of the MAGA party is now a CONVICTED FELON - also broadcast all over the planet!

    ....sentencing of the disgraced REPUBLICAN CRIMINAL in July

     

    *Forgot to add that trump was also found GUILTY of criminal contempt of court, which the judge has yet to rule on - and may or may not add this to sentencing

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2024 - 7:23 PM ET #134

    Morning consult poll reveals 54% of voters approve of Trump guilty verdict.  49% of independents think Trump should drop out of run for office.  But to republicans, facts don't matter.  Instead Trump and allies promote lies about fair trial and attack justice system.

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    Morning consult poll reveals 54% of voters approve of Trump guilty verdict.  49% of independents think Trump should drop out of run for office.  But to republicans, facts don't matter.  Instead Trump and allies promote lies about fair trial and attack justice system.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2024 - 7:24 PM ET #135

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    All while the Dementia Joe admin. destroys the country......yeah, let's worry about Trump.

    How has Biden made things worse from the mess from the Trump administration left the country in ? The Biden administration had to use a mine detector to find the keys to the doors in the White House lawn after Trumps people left days before and didn’t even turn out the light! That shows from the moment Trump got his fat ass kicked how much he cared for the country he deceived from his immoral life style!….Let not forget how he and many billionaires play extreme games with their taxes to the point of zero and they are not even audited Trump leaving Joe Public to pay for wants and needs of the country!….It took several years and the supreme court to get a peek at his returns that were not being audited! He’s a lying pile of DOG S  T!…And  Sore Loser to boot!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    All while the Dementia Joe admin. destroys the country......yeah, let's worry about Trump.

    How has Biden made things worse from the mess from the Trump administration left the country in ? The Biden administration had to use a mine detector to find the keys to the doors in the White House lawn after Trumps people left days before and didn’t even turn out the light! That shows from the moment Trump got his fat ass kicked how much he cared for the country he deceived from his immoral life style!….Let not forget how he and many billionaires play extreme games with their taxes to the point of zero and they are not even audited Trump leaving Joe Public to pay for wants and needs of the country!….It took several years and the supreme court to get a peek at his returns that were not being audited! He’s a lying pile of DOG S  T!…And  Sore Loser to boot!

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2024 - 8:00 PM ET #136

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     I don't know Mugg. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world.

    GO PANTHERS!!!

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    @THEMUGG

     I don't know Mugg. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world.

    GO PANTHERS!!!

     
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     3 more trials to come all are far more aggrieves and that make NY felon look like J walking ! Even if Biden wins but only 7 1/2 million votes again I will not be to disappointed ! Sooner or later the out take of Trump using the N word about Kwame on The Apprentice, And when it Does…..O Baby that 53 million in campaign money will leave faster than it can in! That Tape could get American Great Again in one day! That would be Checkmate! 

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    @thirdperson

     3 more trials to come all are far more aggrieves and that make NY felon look like J walking ! Even if Biden wins but only 7 1/2 million votes again I will not be to disappointed ! Sooner or later the out take of Trump using the N word about Kwame on The Apprentice, And when it Does…..O Baby that 53 million in campaign money will leave faster than it can in! That Tape could get American Great Again in one day! That would be Checkmate! 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2024 - 12:43 AM ET #138

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @THEMUGG  I don't know Mugg. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world. GO PANTHERS!!!
    Me either, but the question is how much longer we'll be able to say that with pride. We're on our way to being just another Central America "democracy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @THEMUGG  I don't know Mugg. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world. GO PANTHERS!!!
    Me either, but the question is how much longer we'll be able to say that with pride. We're on our way to being just another Central America "democracy".

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @THEMUGG  I don't know Mugg. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world.

    Me either, but the question is how much longer we'll be able to say that with pride. We're on our way to being just another Central America "democracy".

    That possibility certainly exists, no doubt about it. surprised

    But there's good news: we can take a large step toward preventing that from happening - at least for the forseeable future - by refusing to vote for a twice-impeached/convicted-FRAUD/convicted-sex-offender/bigot/seditionist/fascist-traitor who - in addition to being officially ranked the WORST president in US history - now also owns the dubious title of CONVICTED FELON ...and any of his down ballot MAGA accomplices/enablers/supporters in every state and territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @THEMUGG  I don't know Mugg. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world.

    Me either, but the question is how much longer we'll be able to say that with pride. We're on our way to being just another Central America "democracy".

    That possibility certainly exists, no doubt about it. surprised

    But there's good news: we can take a large step toward preventing that from happening - at least for the forseeable future - by refusing to vote for a twice-impeached/convicted-FRAUD/convicted-sex-offender/bigot/seditionist/fascist-traitor who - in addition to being officially ranked the WORST president in US history - now also owns the dubious title of CONVICTED FELON ...and any of his down ballot MAGA accomplices/enablers/supporters in every state and territory.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2024 - 3:09 PM ET #140

    Trump is now a convicted felon.  But many people in Trump's inner circle are felons.  His campaign chairman.  Deputy campaign manager.  Personal lawyer.  Chief strategist.  National security advisor.  Trade advisor.  Foreign policy advisor.  Company CFO.  If re-elected, crime lord Trump would replace public servants with crooks and liars.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence. 

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    Trump is now a convicted felon.  But many people in Trump's inner circle are felons.  His campaign chairman.  Deputy campaign manager.  Personal lawyer.  Chief strategist.  National security advisor.  Trade advisor.  Foreign policy advisor.  Company CFO.  If re-elected, crime lord Trump would replace public servants with crooks and liars.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2024 - 2:43 AM ET #141

    Republicans smear hush money trial as unfair.  But CBS/YouGov poll shows 54% of independents say Trump received a fair trial.  57% of US adults say the jury made the correct verdict.   The bar for convicting any defendant in US justice system is extremely high.  Wrongful convictions occur in rare 5% of all cases.  In Trump case, 12 citizens are required to give unanimous verdicts beyond reasonable doubt.   100% guilty verdict proves the prosecution is justified.  Obviously, Trump is unfit for office.

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    Republicans smear hush money trial as unfair.  But CBS/YouGov poll shows 54% of independents say Trump received a fair trial.  57% of US adults say the jury made the correct verdict.   The bar for convicting any defendant in US justice system is extremely high.  Wrongful convictions occur in rare 5% of all cases.  In Trump case, 12 citizens are required to give unanimous verdicts beyond reasonable doubt.   100% guilty verdict proves the prosecution is justified.  Obviously, Trump is unfit for office.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2024 - 11:05 AM ET #142

    The next 3 Trials should incredible ! Why they are not televised is beyond me! Just maybe MAGA supporter’s could get to see Trump in the light of day! 

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    The next 3 Trials should incredible ! Why they are not televised is beyond me! Just maybe MAGA supporter’s could get to see Trump in the light of day! 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2024 - 3:48 PM ET #143

    12 honest jurors & This evidence. https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-the-evidence-presented-against-donald-trump-in-his-hush-money-trial-202105568.html

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    12 honest jurors & This evidence. https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-the-evidence-presented-against-donald-trump-in-his-hush-money-trial-202105568.html

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2024 - 11:02 PM ET #144

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    12 honest jurors & This evidence.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-the-evidence-presented-against-donald-trump-in-his-hush-money-trial-202105568.html

    TRUMP on TRIAL   =

    CONVICTED FELON! an_beatup

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    12 honest jurors & This evidence.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-the-evidence-presented-against-donald-trump-in-his-hush-money-trial-202105568.html

    TRUMP on TRIAL   =

    CONVICTED FELON! an_beatup

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2024 - 6:47 PM ET #145

    The New York City Police Department is preparing to revoke Donald the Deatbeat's license to carry a gun.

    A gun???

    This guy doesn't even know how to use an umbrella!

    confused

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    The New York City Police Department is preparing to revoke Donald the Deatbeat's license to carry a gun.

    A gun???

    This guy doesn't even know how to use an umbrella!

    confused

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2024 - 9:38 PM ET #146

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    The New York City Police Department is preparing to revoke Donald the Deatbeat's license to carry a gun. A gun??? This guy doesn't even know how to use an umbrella!

    I thought CONVICTED FELONS weren't allowed to possess a gun in almost every state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    The New York City Police Department is preparing to revoke Donald the Deatbeat's license to carry a gun. A gun??? This guy doesn't even know how to use an umbrella!

    I thought CONVICTED FELONS weren't allowed to possess a gun in almost every state.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2024 - 9:28 PM ET #147

    Paul Ryan slams Trump
    on Fox News  an_cheers

     

    After former House speaker Paul Ryan slammed
    disgraced former President Donald Trump in an
    interview, former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger describes
    why this sort of criticism is so rare to hear... (clip)

    https://tinyurl.com/bdh4jd4b

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    Paul Ryan slams Trump
    on Fox News  an_cheers

     

    After former House speaker Paul Ryan slammed
    disgraced former President Donald Trump in an
    interview, former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger describes
    why this sort of criticism is so rare to hear... (clip)

    https://tinyurl.com/bdh4jd4b

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2024 - 11:25 PM ET #148

    @fubah2

     Paul Ryan  and Adam KinZinger have it spot on

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    @fubah2

     Paul Ryan  and Adam KinZinger have it spot on

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2024 - 4:58 PM ET #149

    Tonight the #45 ranked US president and CONVICTED FELON is on stage in a debate with  the #14 ranked president

     

    Who will win the debate and who judges who wins?

     

    We already know the speculative answer from the MAGA-cult - and that is, right now, 4 hrs before the debate - trump IS ALREADY CROWNED THE WINNER BECAUSE EVEN IF HE LOSES THEY WILL SAY HE DID WIN AND IT WAS ALL RIGGED!

    FACT!

     

    But aside from that irrational viewpoint, if we look at the CONSENSUS of the various viewer panels and pundits after the debate from all sources, I believe right now BEFORE the debate, that trump will be deemed winner.

    MEANINGLESS in the grand scheme of things of course -  but that will be the likely consensus......and it won't be based at least part on decorum, logic, or merit, but rather on their perception of audience belief

    In short, trump will lie his phucking ass off and be certain that his inaccuracies and bold lies far outstrip anything Biden counters with that are real verifiable facts in his favor.  That's why.

    The ignorant masses watching won't know what to believe so trump will simply LIE to make sure his numbers and his answers - despite reality - mnake him look far better then the actual truth.

    an_light So, since there is no real-time "fact-checking" during the debate, there are no immediate consequences but all GAIN when trump lies his ass off!  If I could wager on it I would bet BIG money trump's fabrications & lies will be so bold so as to drown out whatever Biden says.

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    Tonight the #45 ranked US president and CONVICTED FELON is on stage in a debate with  the #14 ranked president

     

    Who will win the debate and who judges who wins?

     

    We already know the speculative answer from the MAGA-cult - and that is, right now, 4 hrs before the debate - trump IS ALREADY CROWNED THE WINNER BECAUSE EVEN IF HE LOSES THEY WILL SAY HE DID WIN AND IT WAS ALL RIGGED!

    FACT!

     

    But aside from that irrational viewpoint, if we look at the CONSENSUS of the various viewer panels and pundits after the debate from all sources, I believe right now BEFORE the debate, that trump will be deemed winner.

    MEANINGLESS in the grand scheme of things of course -  but that will be the likely consensus......and it won't be based at least part on decorum, logic, or merit, but rather on their perception of audience belief

    In short, trump will lie his phucking ass off and be certain that his inaccuracies and bold lies far outstrip anything Biden counters with that are real verifiable facts in his favor.  That's why.

    The ignorant masses watching won't know what to believe so trump will simply LIE to make sure his numbers and his answers - despite reality - mnake him look far better then the actual truth.

    an_light So, since there is no real-time "fact-checking" during the debate, there are no immediate consequences but all GAIN when trump lies his ass off!  If I could wager on it I would bet BIG money trump's fabrications & lies will be so bold so as to drown out whatever Biden says.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2024 - 6:42 PM ET #150

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    But aside from that irrational viewpoint, if we look at the CONSENSUS of the various viewer panels and pundits after the debate from all sources, I believe right now BEFORE the debate, that trump will be deemed winner.

    MEANINGLESS in the grand scheme of things of course -  but that will be the likely consensus......and it won't be based at least part on decorum, logic, or merit, but rather on their perception of audience belief

    In short, trump will lie his phucking ass off and be certain that his inaccuracies and bold lies far outstrip anything Biden counters with that are real verifiable facts in his favor.  That's why.

    The ignorant masses watching won't know what to believe so trump will simply LIE to make sure his numbers and his answers - despite reality - mnake him look far better then the actual truth.

    an_light So, since there is no real-time "fact-checking" during the debate, there are no immediate consequences but all GAIN when trump lies his ass off!  If I could wager on it I would bet BIG money trump's fabrications & lies will be so bold so as to drown out whatever Biden says.

    absolutely ! 

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    But aside from that irrational viewpoint, if we look at the CONSENSUS of the various viewer panels and pundits after the debate from all sources, I believe right now BEFORE the debate, that trump will be deemed winner.

    MEANINGLESS in the grand scheme of things of course -  but that will be the likely consensus......and it won't be based at least part on decorum, logic, or merit, but rather on their perception of audience belief

    In short, trump will lie his phucking ass off and be certain that his inaccuracies and bold lies far outstrip anything Biden counters with that are real verifiable facts in his favor.  That's why.

    The ignorant masses watching won't know what to believe so trump will simply LIE to make sure his numbers and his answers - despite reality - mnake him look far better then the actual truth.

    an_light So, since there is no real-time "fact-checking" during the debate, there are no immediate consequences but all GAIN when trump lies his ass off!  If I could wager on it I would bet BIG money trump's fabrications & lies will be so bold so as to drown out whatever Biden says.

    absolutely ! 

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