@THEMUGG Is your solution to allow any wing nut to open a charter school because its cheaper and then let whatever happens run its course? I have no problem with the concept of improving things but that does not need to be imploding the entire structure because your right wing extremist want bibles and religion in schools. Must every solution be as extreme as the problems you feel exist? Where is common sense and a long term solution rather than a short term extremist reactionary overreach?
Public schools are absolutely failing. Liberals: "Hey, whoa. Why blow the whole thing up? Why mess with the status quo?"
Whether they have the right approach remains to be seen but at least conservatives acknowledge there is an issue.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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@THEMUGG Is your solution to allow any wing nut to open a charter school because its cheaper and then let whatever happens run its course? I have no problem with the concept of improving things but that does not need to be imploding the entire structure because your right wing extremist want bibles and religion in schools. Must every solution be as extreme as the problems you feel exist? Where is common sense and a long term solution rather than a short term extremist reactionary overreach?
Public schools are absolutely failing. Liberals: "Hey, whoa. Why blow the whole thing up? Why mess with the status quo?"
Whether they have the right approach remains to be seen but at least conservatives acknowledge there is an issue.
Trump plan to eliminate education department probably won't improve education. Most educated countries tend to have support from all levels of government. But the least educated countries tend to be poor. In the US, most educated states tend to be democrat. For examples, Massachusetts, Vermont, Maryland, Connecticut. Whereas the least educated states tend to be republican. For examples, West Virginia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas.
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Trump plan to eliminate education department probably won't improve education. Most educated countries tend to have support from all levels of government. But the least educated countries tend to be poor. In the US, most educated states tend to be democrat. For examples, Massachusetts, Vermont, Maryland, Connecticut. Whereas the least educated states tend to be republican. For examples, West Virginia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas.
[Quote: Originally Posted by lovethedough]Remember when Republican congressional members were denied access to immigration centers and Jan 6 prisons? Fun times. How’s it feel? Besides you've all gotten enough money from us. In fact, Trump's IRS needs to look into every Democrat & RINO to make sure you've all paid your fair share. I'm sure Bernie Sanders will volunteer to be first on their list.[/Quote
Unlike Trump who said his returns were under audit for the last 10 years, Bernie released 10 years of his !
[Quote: Originally Posted by lovethedough]Remember when Republican congressional members were denied access to immigration centers and Jan 6 prisons? Fun times. How’s it feel? Besides you've all gotten enough money from us. In fact, Trump's IRS needs to look into every Democrat & RINO to make sure you've all paid your fair share. I'm sure Bernie Sanders will volunteer to be first on their list.[/Quote
Unlike Trump who said his returns were under audit for the last 10 years, Bernie released 10 years of his !
Did you read my comment or just hone in on the liberal versus conservative angle yet again?
The solution to make things better is not to swing in the opposite direction in the same level of extremity, what good does that do? Charter schools can be cheaper but they are not a solution to the problem for a multitude of reasons we have discussed here before.
Why does the reaction have to be so extreme and polarizing, is the intent to make things better or is it to overreact as a stupid retort?
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@StumpTownStu
Did you read my comment or just hone in on the liberal versus conservative angle yet again?
The solution to make things better is not to swing in the opposite direction in the same level of extremity, what good does that do? Charter schools can be cheaper but they are not a solution to the problem for a multitude of reasons we have discussed here before.
Why does the reaction have to be so extreme and polarizing, is the intent to make things better or is it to overreact as a stupid retort?
We were told she was the gatekeeper? The speed bump? The watchdog? The "miracle worker? She was called the "Ice Maiden" but is nothing but a big puddle so far.
She was going to keep the Donald on his meds. Not allow Stephen Miller anywhere near the Donald. Everything was going to come through her first. Did she even know about the massive pardons or the government freeze or Muskrat running the show? It's hard for her to keep the Donald & Muskrat from talking to each other while laying bed in the middle of the night, right?
“My team and I will not tolerate backbiting, second-guessing inappropriately, or drama. These are counterproductive to the mission.” I think you missed the boat on that one Susie!
Does anyone respect her?
WAKE UP LADY!
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HAS SUSIE WILES COME BACK FROM LUNCH YET?
We were told she was the gatekeeper? The speed bump? The watchdog? The "miracle worker? She was called the "Ice Maiden" but is nothing but a big puddle so far.
She was going to keep the Donald on his meds. Not allow Stephen Miller anywhere near the Donald. Everything was going to come through her first. Did she even know about the massive pardons or the government freeze or Muskrat running the show? It's hard for her to keep the Donald & Muskrat from talking to each other while laying bed in the middle of the night, right?
“My team and I will not tolerate backbiting, second-guessing inappropriately, or drama. These are counterproductive to the mission.” I think you missed the boat on that one Susie!
SO HOW ARE THINGS GOING? Not so good for these folks... Consumers going to purchase items shipped from China are discovering the first immediate impact of President Donald Trump's new tariffs: fees of "up to $50 or more" on top of their usual shipping costs, reported Wired. The key sticking point is that the policy change eliminates a longtime "de minimis" exemption from trade duties for parcels worth less than $800, suddenly causing people to owe fees they've never paid. Beginning Tuesday, "US shoppers have reported receiving notices from UPS and DHL stating they owed between $20 to over $50. Some small business owners, meanwhile, say the new fees are forcing them to temporarily halt sending orders to the US completely," reported Zeyi Yang. "US customers who placed orders on shopping websites like the popular Chinese fast-fashion platform Shein have been particularly impacted, even if they made their purchases long before the tariffs were announced. They are now forced to either pay the hefty fees — in some cases, more than the cost of the actual items — or have their packages sent back." Oftentimes, these fees outright hold up the packages from even being delivered. For example, according to the report, "Chardonnay Love, an artist from Pennsylvania, says she received a text message from DHL on Tuesday explaining she needed to pay $26.20 in import duties to get a Shein order that already cost her $267.14." Meanwhile, Leslie Brown, who owns a Canadian clothing reseller that does business through eBay and Poshmark, said “I am now stuck with $30,000 of items I can’t move across the border, the lifeblood of my business.” New tariffs taking effect this week were also to apply to Mexico and Canada; however, at the last minute, the leaders of both countries managed to negotiate a one-month delay with the Donald by agreeing to border security measures they were already doing anyway. The tariffs on China, however, are in full force, with significant impacts on trade. On Tuesday, the U.S. Postal Service suspended all shipments of parcels from China altogether, although this suspension was lifted on Wednesday morning. Can't be screwing around with small businesses. It's becoming a "who's on first" comedy except it's not funny.
The Donald has temporarily reinstated a tariff loophole that allows packages worth less than $800 to enter US duty free.
He rescinded his decision that lasted 2 days.
Geezzzz
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
SO HOW ARE THINGS GOING? Not so good for these folks... Consumers going to purchase items shipped from China are discovering the first immediate impact of President Donald Trump's new tariffs: fees of "up to $50 or more" on top of their usual shipping costs, reported Wired. The key sticking point is that the policy change eliminates a longtime "de minimis" exemption from trade duties for parcels worth less than $800, suddenly causing people to owe fees they've never paid. Beginning Tuesday, "US shoppers have reported receiving notices from UPS and DHL stating they owed between $20 to over $50. Some small business owners, meanwhile, say the new fees are forcing them to temporarily halt sending orders to the US completely," reported Zeyi Yang. "US customers who placed orders on shopping websites like the popular Chinese fast-fashion platform Shein have been particularly impacted, even if they made their purchases long before the tariffs were announced. They are now forced to either pay the hefty fees — in some cases, more than the cost of the actual items — or have their packages sent back." Oftentimes, these fees outright hold up the packages from even being delivered. For example, according to the report, "Chardonnay Love, an artist from Pennsylvania, says she received a text message from DHL on Tuesday explaining she needed to pay $26.20 in import duties to get a Shein order that already cost her $267.14." Meanwhile, Leslie Brown, who owns a Canadian clothing reseller that does business through eBay and Poshmark, said “I am now stuck with $30,000 of items I can’t move across the border, the lifeblood of my business.” New tariffs taking effect this week were also to apply to Mexico and Canada; however, at the last minute, the leaders of both countries managed to negotiate a one-month delay with the Donald by agreeing to border security measures they were already doing anyway. The tariffs on China, however, are in full force, with significant impacts on trade. On Tuesday, the U.S. Postal Service suspended all shipments of parcels from China altogether, although this suspension was lifted on Wednesday morning. Can't be screwing around with small businesses. It's becoming a "who's on first" comedy except it's not funny.
The Donald has temporarily reinstated a tariff loophole that allows packages worth less than $800 to enter US duty free.
@StumpTownStu Did you read my comment or just hone in on the liberal versus conservative angle yet again? The solution to make things better is not to swing in the opposite direction in the same level of extremity, what good does that do? Charter schools can be cheaper but they are not a solution to the problem for a multitude of reasons we have discussed here before. Why does the reaction have to be so extreme and polarizing, is the intent to make things better or is it to overreact as a stupid retort?
Look in the mirror. You're arguably the most partisaned, combative poster on this site. And you call yourself a moderator. Yes, I read your post in it's entirety..a d I responded.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@StumpTownStu Did you read my comment or just hone in on the liberal versus conservative angle yet again? The solution to make things better is not to swing in the opposite direction in the same level of extremity, what good does that do? Charter schools can be cheaper but they are not a solution to the problem for a multitude of reasons we have discussed here before. Why does the reaction have to be so extreme and polarizing, is the intent to make things better or is it to overreact as a stupid retort?
Look in the mirror. You're arguably the most partisaned, combative poster on this site. And you call yourself a moderator. Yes, I read your post in it's entirety..a d I responded.
What part were you curious if I missed? The part about wingnuts, or the part about extremist? Republicans have pushed for charters for long before the current back and forth. Republicans have pushed for school choice? Why are liberals against it? What is the Democratic plan. More of the same? Definition of insanity vibes. Doing the same thing and expecting different outcomes.
Stupid retort? You revert to insults because you have nothing of validity to say on the subject. What about my post is stupid?
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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@wallstreetcappers
What part were you curious if I missed? The part about wingnuts, or the part about extremist? Republicans have pushed for charters for long before the current back and forth. Republicans have pushed for school choice? Why are liberals against it? What is the Democratic plan. More of the same? Definition of insanity vibes. Doing the same thing and expecting different outcomes.
Stupid retort? You revert to insults because you have nothing of validity to say on the subject. What about my post is stupid?
Their reactionary response is extremist, that is why I asked if you really were interested in making things better or retaliating?
I speak of charters because I am square in the middle of one of the largest charter states in the country...I know charters quite quite well and I know their flaws and their gaps and limits. Charters are not a solution that makes things better for a number of reasons.
The way to handle a swing to an extreme is not to swing to the opposite extreme, that accomplishes nothing. I am interested in making things better not swinging away from extremist cherry picking to validate a flawed narrative. Charters are a flawed mistake on a large scale and do not make things better for the students or the families of the students. This comes from experience and from exposure to the very institution you are suggesting.
And yes unless there is extreme oversight and extreme regulation and guidance, Charters are a horrid idea and yes wingnuts do run rampant in charters, it happens regularly down here and this snap your fingers retort to a problem you see is a myriad of problems in your so-called solution.
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@StumpTownStu
Their reactionary response is extremist, that is why I asked if you really were interested in making things better or retaliating?
I speak of charters because I am square in the middle of one of the largest charter states in the country...I know charters quite quite well and I know their flaws and their gaps and limits. Charters are not a solution that makes things better for a number of reasons.
The way to handle a swing to an extreme is not to swing to the opposite extreme, that accomplishes nothing. I am interested in making things better not swinging away from extremist cherry picking to validate a flawed narrative. Charters are a flawed mistake on a large scale and do not make things better for the students or the families of the students. This comes from experience and from exposure to the very institution you are suggesting.
And yes unless there is extreme oversight and extreme regulation and guidance, Charters are a horrid idea and yes wingnuts do run rampant in charters, it happens regularly down here and this snap your fingers retort to a problem you see is a myriad of problems in your so-called solution.
Stupid retort was not YOU silly, I said was the idea of a charter a solution or a stupid retort? Did YOU personally forward the idea of large scale charters as a solution? Of course not so how could you even suggest I am talking about YOU unless Trump named you charter doobie and you are giving him this awful advice.
I think Trump really cares zippo about making things better, Trump listens to extremists who HAVE a narrative and Trump is lacking depth and motivation so whomever he thinks is smart will feed him cruddy ideas and he will support those with doing absolutely ZERO due diligence.
Look no further than the absolutely atrocious suggestions he makes about inflation and grocery prices about Ukraine and Gaza, the guy offers up such garbage solutions to which he is never held accountable. The way he suggested that Palestine citizens should be put up in foreign countries and that the US should take over Gaza, renaming the Gulf of Mexico and taking over the canal, the list of obtuse idiocy goes on and on and on.
So you need to try HARDER to soil me, you got a cap gun response there which was a massive stretch even at the best of times, try again but onlly after you bring some content to your replies...this poor me stuff is a bit soft dont you think?
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@StumpTownStu
Stupid retort was not YOU silly, I said was the idea of a charter a solution or a stupid retort? Did YOU personally forward the idea of large scale charters as a solution? Of course not so how could you even suggest I am talking about YOU unless Trump named you charter doobie and you are giving him this awful advice.
I think Trump really cares zippo about making things better, Trump listens to extremists who HAVE a narrative and Trump is lacking depth and motivation so whomever he thinks is smart will feed him cruddy ideas and he will support those with doing absolutely ZERO due diligence.
Look no further than the absolutely atrocious suggestions he makes about inflation and grocery prices about Ukraine and Gaza, the guy offers up such garbage solutions to which he is never held accountable. The way he suggested that Palestine citizens should be put up in foreign countries and that the US should take over Gaza, renaming the Gulf of Mexico and taking over the canal, the list of obtuse idiocy goes on and on and on.
So you need to try HARDER to soil me, you got a cap gun response there which was a massive stretch even at the best of times, try again but onlly after you bring some content to your replies...this poor me stuff is a bit soft dont you think?
@soup-can Have you read the bible OT? Can you answer this? Do you have an understanding of history in the region or are you just supporting your partisan sources in the present?
I am not being partisan on this with Gaza. the place will take years maybe even a decade to make it livable again. Disease is already starting to set it, and I know you are a very well-read person so you know my point is valid that NOBODY can live there now. It's not a matter of herding cattle to Egypt or Jordan, or even Morrocco and Ireland are possible destinations. I do have an understanding of the region but by no means an expert, so how does Egypt not at least give safe passage to the women & children or as refugees? All those human shields and Sisi didn't even blink, his election is end of year. They have a bad reputation, and no landlord wants to rent to them.... from the PLO in Beirut and maybe going back all the way to the twelve sons of Ishmael. Who would you think the Palestinians derived from? The easy guess is Philistines(Ham) but could also descend from Kedar or Hadad. Your talking 4,000 years here, point is I wasn't trashing anyone just a short response about this maniac who wants to put up a four seasons on the sea and the people of Gaza voted 80% for Hamas rule. There is no two state solution, there are no rainbows in Gaza. now can we put this top bed without insults?
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@soup-can Have you read the bible OT? Can you answer this? Do you have an understanding of history in the region or are you just supporting your partisan sources in the present?
I am not being partisan on this with Gaza. the place will take years maybe even a decade to make it livable again. Disease is already starting to set it, and I know you are a very well-read person so you know my point is valid that NOBODY can live there now. It's not a matter of herding cattle to Egypt or Jordan, or even Morrocco and Ireland are possible destinations. I do have an understanding of the region but by no means an expert, so how does Egypt not at least give safe passage to the women & children or as refugees? All those human shields and Sisi didn't even blink, his election is end of year. They have a bad reputation, and no landlord wants to rent to them.... from the PLO in Beirut and maybe going back all the way to the twelve sons of Ishmael. Who would you think the Palestinians derived from? The easy guess is Philistines(Ham) but could also descend from Kedar or Hadad. Your talking 4,000 years here, point is I wasn't trashing anyone just a short response about this maniac who wants to put up a four seasons on the sea and the people of Gaza voted 80% for Hamas rule. There is no two state solution, there are no rainbows in Gaza. now can we put this top bed without insults?
Quote The Donald has temporarily reinstated a tariff loophole that allows packages worth less than $800 to enter US duty free. He rescinded his decision that lasted 2 days. Geezzzz
It was said this would put TEMU and Shein out of business, maybe even Alibaba too. There was a lot of negative press, He did the right thing with this one. those places are like cheap TJ Maxx stuff. These tariffs are negotiating start points but the one with China I think he is just pissing in their cereal, and it's been long overdue for that to happen
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@Midnight1
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Quote The Donald has temporarily reinstated a tariff loophole that allows packages worth less than $800 to enter US duty free. He rescinded his decision that lasted 2 days. Geezzzz
It was said this would put TEMU and Shein out of business, maybe even Alibaba too. There was a lot of negative press, He did the right thing with this one. those places are like cheap TJ Maxx stuff. These tariffs are negotiating start points but the one with China I think he is just pissing in their cereal, and it's been long overdue for that to happen
Where were the insults? Can you list where I personally insulted you? Is asking if you read the OT or know historical information an insult? Is asking if you are relying on present day partisan agendas an insult? Is suggesting that Israel was given land that the Palestinians feel like is theirs an insult? Is saying that Trump and Biden are both horrid for supporting Israel and allowing BIBI to kill hundreds of thousands of their enemies an insult?
I am likely as much or more Christian than anyone here and yet I am not blind to the atrocities Israel has done to anyone not supporting their partisan offensive approach. Gaza is not what the Palestinians deserve as their homeland, they deserve the same land Israel was given and it is true that both cannot exist in the same area given that both feel the area was given to them by their creator and prophets and BOTH groups have killed the other side for millions of people and thousands of years. I do not blindly side with Israel given that Palestine had zero representation and was forced into a third world cage known as Gaza.
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@soup-can
Where were the insults? Can you list where I personally insulted you? Is asking if you read the OT or know historical information an insult? Is asking if you are relying on present day partisan agendas an insult? Is suggesting that Israel was given land that the Palestinians feel like is theirs an insult? Is saying that Trump and Biden are both horrid for supporting Israel and allowing BIBI to kill hundreds of thousands of their enemies an insult?
I am likely as much or more Christian than anyone here and yet I am not blind to the atrocities Israel has done to anyone not supporting their partisan offensive approach. Gaza is not what the Palestinians deserve as their homeland, they deserve the same land Israel was given and it is true that both cannot exist in the same area given that both feel the area was given to them by their creator and prophets and BOTH groups have killed the other side for millions of people and thousands of years. I do not blindly side with Israel given that Palestine had zero representation and was forced into a third world cage known as Gaza.
if you would like to further this conversation, perhaps maybe in another thread then. this subject has nothing to do with the original OP topics other than my comments and really this is how good threads end up in the box because it just spirals out of control
As far as the insult comment, it's how you talk down to me and other posters. Sometimes it is warranted but not at all times.
This Palestine nonsense is insulting and lacking reasonable intelligence. You have boxed me for much less, it's your delivery. In real life if you told someone they lacked reasonable intelligence you should get punched in the mouth. It's not acceptable. When you choose to ignore this, it shows your true character.
You have repeatedly shown towards posters that don't kiss the ring of OB, Biden, or against Harris that their opinions are wrong. Then your comments become insults in their own. hope this helps
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@wallstreetcappers
if you would like to further this conversation, perhaps maybe in another thread then. this subject has nothing to do with the original OP topics other than my comments and really this is how good threads end up in the box because it just spirals out of control
As far as the insult comment, it's how you talk down to me and other posters. Sometimes it is warranted but not at all times.
This Palestine nonsense is insulting and lacking reasonable intelligence. You have boxed me for much less, it's your delivery. In real life if you told someone they lacked reasonable intelligence you should get punched in the mouth. It's not acceptable. When you choose to ignore this, it shows your true character.
You have repeatedly shown towards posters that don't kiss the ring of OB, Biden, or against Harris that their opinions are wrong. Then your comments become insults in their own. hope this helps
So what are the palestinians gonna do now? They weren't smart enough to think about what a war would do to their cities, & no other country wants anything to do with them. Hell, this conflict isn't even over yet. I'm sure Trump is bluffing with his idea to turn it into resorts.....I certainly wouldn't want anything to do with it. How are they gonna rebuild it? Will other muslim countries step up to help?
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@wallstreetcappers
So what are the palestinians gonna do now? They weren't smart enough to think about what a war would do to their cities, & no other country wants anything to do with them. Hell, this conflict isn't even over yet. I'm sure Trump is bluffing with his idea to turn it into resorts.....I certainly wouldn't want anything to do with it. How are they gonna rebuild it? Will other muslim countries step up to help?
The reality is that the Palestinians never had representation to claim what THEY feel is theirs, they were forced into a third world cage controlled by Israel. The back and forth actions against both groups are consistent and equal (IMO). I do not think one group is above the other, the incident which sparked the mass murders of hundreds of thousands was brutal and especially to US terms but unfortunately that event was not really that severe for the region and the resulting attack and offensive war was not warranted,
I didnt even go down the dufus path about the wanderer in chiefs comments, he is so obtuse it is not even worth discussing. My comments are more historical and fundamental not the classless moronic trash that Trump blurted out. I dismiss most of what he says because he really has no clue about reality but it IS insulting when Trump and many members here minimize other humans, the same humans who deserve respect and consideration as much as we do and as much as anyone else. I find the comments like the Palestinians can live somewhere else, that they will no longer exist and that they do less for the world than the other group as severely insulting, disgusting and lacking intelligence. No single person is better than another, I am no more deserving of another breath than any other living person and when living breathing people are minimized and categorized it is insulting. The hundreds of thousands of innocent people who died have as much claim to this world as those who are living.
How can anyone treat others like cattle and suggest they have no place and that their struggle and fighting and approach is worse than what has been done to them for thousands of years? Israel openly slaughtered innocent civilians and went much further than the guise of Gaza and the US did nothing, Biden did nothing and Trump openly welcomes the figurehead to this country and continues to support those responsible for those innocent deaths and the destruction of a people who never had the opportunity to live their lives in a land which is theirs let alone a caged third world hole like Gaza.
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@THEMUGG
The reality is that the Palestinians never had representation to claim what THEY feel is theirs, they were forced into a third world cage controlled by Israel. The back and forth actions against both groups are consistent and equal (IMO). I do not think one group is above the other, the incident which sparked the mass murders of hundreds of thousands was brutal and especially to US terms but unfortunately that event was not really that severe for the region and the resulting attack and offensive war was not warranted,
I didnt even go down the dufus path about the wanderer in chiefs comments, he is so obtuse it is not even worth discussing. My comments are more historical and fundamental not the classless moronic trash that Trump blurted out. I dismiss most of what he says because he really has no clue about reality but it IS insulting when Trump and many members here minimize other humans, the same humans who deserve respect and consideration as much as we do and as much as anyone else. I find the comments like the Palestinians can live somewhere else, that they will no longer exist and that they do less for the world than the other group as severely insulting, disgusting and lacking intelligence. No single person is better than another, I am no more deserving of another breath than any other living person and when living breathing people are minimized and categorized it is insulting. The hundreds of thousands of innocent people who died have as much claim to this world as those who are living.
How can anyone treat others like cattle and suggest they have no place and that their struggle and fighting and approach is worse than what has been done to them for thousands of years? Israel openly slaughtered innocent civilians and went much further than the guise of Gaza and the US did nothing, Biden did nothing and Trump openly welcomes the figurehead to this country and continues to support those responsible for those innocent deaths and the destruction of a people who never had the opportunity to live their lives in a land which is theirs let alone a caged third world hole like Gaza.
Gaza a third world cage? They're on the Med sea. Regardless of the thousands of years gone by, they started this latest skirmish. I can't really relate to these religious fanatics that feel like starting wars is gonna get them anywhere. Maybe if they just mellowed out then the rest of the ME would be a bit more amicable towards them. I'm just looking at all the destruction & wondering what their end game is.
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@wallstreetcappers
Gaza a third world cage? They're on the Med sea. Regardless of the thousands of years gone by, they started this latest skirmish. I can't really relate to these religious fanatics that feel like starting wars is gonna get them anywhere. Maybe if they just mellowed out then the rest of the ME would be a bit more amicable towards them. I'm just looking at all the destruction & wondering what their end game is.
It was present day game over when the UN/US gave the promised land to Israel and did not even consider or involve Palestine or represent them in a reasonable respectful manner.
When the sole entry and exit point is controlled by your enemy and when you do not have full open access to commerce and infrastructure and technology, it is third world even though it is on the water as you mention.
How would you feel if you lived in a caged zone with minimal modern features and access then you know less than a KM away your enemy is living with open borders, full technology and modern living and this SHOULD have been your opportunity? These same enemies who have thousands of years of history killing generations of your family and yet they control most aspects of your life and future?
Every single human deserves respect and opportunity but especially those who were born into a horrible situation and have done nothing to deserve it.
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@THEMUGG
It was present day game over when the UN/US gave the promised land to Israel and did not even consider or involve Palestine or represent them in a reasonable respectful manner.
When the sole entry and exit point is controlled by your enemy and when you do not have full open access to commerce and infrastructure and technology, it is third world even though it is on the water as you mention.
How would you feel if you lived in a caged zone with minimal modern features and access then you know less than a KM away your enemy is living with open borders, full technology and modern living and this SHOULD have been your opportunity? These same enemies who have thousands of years of history killing generations of your family and yet they control most aspects of your life and future?
Every single human deserves respect and opportunity but especially those who were born into a horrible situation and have done nothing to deserve it.
Since the Palestinians were born into a horrible situation and suppressed for so long...They should be supported in their terrorist attack on Israel ..on Oct.7Th. Regardless of the crimes they committed against humanity and hostage-taking ..
Killing 1,189 people, including 815 civilians, wounding 7,500 and taking 251 hostage...raping women, girls, and men were reportedly subject to rape and sexual assault also..This is justified when people don't have access to modern features ....
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Since the Palestinians were born into a horrible situation and suppressed for so long...They should be supported in their terrorist attack on Israel ..on Oct.7Th. Regardless of the crimes they committed against humanity and hostage-taking ..
Killing 1,189 people, including 815 civilians, wounding 7,500 and taking 251 hostage...raping women, girls, and men were reportedly subject to rape and sexual assault also..This is justified when people don't have access to modern features ....
NO MORE THAN TWENTY TRANSGENDER ATHLETES INVOLVED:
Asked what he's doing to try to bring the country together, the Donald goes on a rant that culminates in him saying that "I just signed a bill allowing for women not to have to be punished by men in sports." So he's uniting Americans on a topic where Americans are already united? He has no intention of bringing the country together.
Nearly 70% of Americans believe transgender athletes should play sports within their birth genders.
Nothing like making a molehill into a mountain.
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NO MORE THAN TWENTY TRANSGENDER ATHLETES INVOLVED:
Asked what he's doing to try to bring the country together, the Donald goes on a rant that culminates in him saying that "I just signed a bill allowing for women not to have to be punished by men in sports." So he's uniting Americans on a topic where Americans are already united? He has no intention of bringing the country together.
Nearly 70% of Americans believe transgender athletes should play sports within their birth genders.
Every single life matters as much as any other so the incident for sure is disgusting and there is no validation for what happened. That is not the only incident nor the only narrative. Unfortunately in the grand scheme of things with the history between these two groups, that event is a nano total for what has been done by Israel to Palestine and vice versa.
I am Christian, I probably know more about the history than anyone who participates here and I do not support any loss of life, I do support equal representation and equality for all and in this case Israel got everything and Palestine got nothing. If you and your family were corralled into Gaza as the Palestinians were and within eyesight of your plight you see your enemies living a completely different life and your enemy controls commerce access and regularly attacks your people, how would it impact you?
The US stood by and still stands by supporting and forwarding Israel and the terrorist BIBI and we do nothing for those in Gaza and Trump says insulting stupid moronic things, how does that represent that as a country we should be concerned about everyone not just Israel?
If you look at history from the origin of this conflict, Israel has no place occupying that land and it is no wonder why Palestine and Iran want to remove them from the area, that land was historically Persian and Palestinian. The Bible is a lousy historical source as they categorize any non-Jewish as "Canaanite" but at best that area was not entitled to Israel.
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@SarasotaSlim
Every single life matters as much as any other so the incident for sure is disgusting and there is no validation for what happened. That is not the only incident nor the only narrative. Unfortunately in the grand scheme of things with the history between these two groups, that event is a nano total for what has been done by Israel to Palestine and vice versa.
I am Christian, I probably know more about the history than anyone who participates here and I do not support any loss of life, I do support equal representation and equality for all and in this case Israel got everything and Palestine got nothing. If you and your family were corralled into Gaza as the Palestinians were and within eyesight of your plight you see your enemies living a completely different life and your enemy controls commerce access and regularly attacks your people, how would it impact you?
The US stood by and still stands by supporting and forwarding Israel and the terrorist BIBI and we do nothing for those in Gaza and Trump says insulting stupid moronic things, how does that represent that as a country we should be concerned about everyone not just Israel?
If you look at history from the origin of this conflict, Israel has no place occupying that land and it is no wonder why Palestine and Iran want to remove them from the area, that land was historically Persian and Palestinian. The Bible is a lousy historical source as they categorize any non-Jewish as "Canaanite" but at best that area was not entitled to Israel.
IMAGINE YOU'RE SITTING AT HOME GETTING READY TO WATCH THE SUPER BOWL & YOU GET AN EMAIL?
Employees at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau received an email on Sunday saying the bureau’s headquarters would be closed for the coming week.
Of course the madman can't do this but Congress rather talk about condoms, transgenders & Canada becoming the 51st state.
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IMAGINE YOU'RE SITTING AT HOME GETTING READY TO WATCH THE SUPER BOWL & YOU GET AN EMAIL?
Employees at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau received an email on Sunday saying the bureau’s headquarters would be closed for the coming week.
Of course the madman can't do this but Congress rather talk about condoms, transgenders & Canada becoming the 51st state.
As recently as last Sept.the United States gave nearly$336million in additional humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank..
In January 2016 the Sanad Construction Resources Company received $310 million in funding from USAID ( the one Pres.Trump just shut down ) for a Palestinian cement factory project. ...the Palestinians used the cement to build terror tunnels to attack Israel...Hamas acquire the cement, despite Israel’s blockade of such materials.....
The Palestinians in Gaza would rather build tunnels then construct buildings and infrastructure to help advance their peoples living conditions.So,let them eat cakeSumaghiyyeh....
By the bye....no good Christian would ever call The Bible is a lousy historical source ..they would claim the opposite....The Bible is greatest book ever written....The first five books of the Bible were written by Moses.
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As recently as last Sept.the United States gave nearly$336million in additional humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank..
In January 2016 the Sanad Construction Resources Company received $310 million in funding from USAID ( the one Pres.Trump just shut down ) for a Palestinian cement factory project. ...the Palestinians used the cement to build terror tunnels to attack Israel...Hamas acquire the cement, despite Israel’s blockade of such materials.....
The Palestinians in Gaza would rather build tunnels then construct buildings and infrastructure to help advance their peoples living conditions.So,let them eat cakeSumaghiyyeh....
By the bye....no good Christian would ever call The Bible is a lousy historical source ..they would claim the opposite....The Bible is greatest book ever written....The first five books of the Bible were written by Moses.
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