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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2020 - 1:16 PM ET #26

    I'm sure HRC could have found 5K to make shiiit up too

    How do the people doing the phone survey know who the respondents voted for?

    Are we going to phone audit every close election in the future?

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    I'm sure HRC could have found 5K to make shiiit up too

    How do the people doing the phone survey know who the respondents voted for?

    Are we going to phone audit every close election in the future?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2020 - 1:20 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    @StumpTownStu I approve of your obsession with the P, but did you see the GA video?

    What I saw was very limited in scope. Only a few minutes of footage that didn't really ring alarm bells. Enough that if someone had questions, they should be answered, but by no means a smoking gun. Not a smoking anything but definitely a curiosity that should be addressed. All I saw is a handful of workers wheeling around what looks to be Pelican cases. Now if there is more to it. Footage of the workers pulling ballots from said cases, ect then we may have something. However every reputable source on the subject, many of which are lifelong Republicans, have said there is no evidence of fraud. And at a certain point you can't dismiss these people by simply saying, "Well they're a liberal so.... Well they're just a RINO so...." I'm sorry but the "theft of an election", the election to the highest office in the world, doesn't simply happen with a few poll workers in flipping Georgia. I think we have become a sour grapes, "If I lose, it's because I was cheated." participation trophy society. You see it daily in these forums. A guy loses a wager and the whole league is rigged. I've been handicapping sports since grade school. I lose I ask, "What did I miss? What did I do wrong?" How do I learn from it. Sometimes there's nothing to learn and it simply comes down to my capping was sound but at the end of the day, my side just didn't get it done. People these days, especially Americans, aren't able to do this. They aren't able to self reflect. They aren't able to be accountable. And this is personified in Trump. The quintessential guy born on third base who thought he hit a triple. He simply can't admit that there are a metric fork ton of people who don't like him. Who though he was not good for America. People who love him can't except this. "How could this be?" It's the same as every democrat who believed in russian election collusion. "How could Hillary lose? It must be rigged" when in reality she lost because she was super unlikable and she campaigned poorly. Trump didn't lose because of election meddling, he lost because he's super unlikable and for several months he saidcovid was a hoax. Without covid, he wins. And it wasn't even his response to covid, which wasn't even bad. It was because he gave democrats all the fuel they needed to make him look like his response was bad. They politicized it from the very beginning and he played right into their hands. "It's a hoax. It'll be gone by Easter." He sowed the seeds of his own demise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    @StumpTownStu I approve of your obsession with the P, but did you see the GA video?

    What I saw was very limited in scope. Only a few minutes of footage that didn't really ring alarm bells. Enough that if someone had questions, they should be answered, but by no means a smoking gun. Not a smoking anything but definitely a curiosity that should be addressed. All I saw is a handful of workers wheeling around what looks to be Pelican cases. Now if there is more to it. Footage of the workers pulling ballots from said cases, ect then we may have something. However every reputable source on the subject, many of which are lifelong Republicans, have said there is no evidence of fraud. And at a certain point you can't dismiss these people by simply saying, "Well they're a liberal so.... Well they're just a RINO so...." I'm sorry but the "theft of an election", the election to the highest office in the world, doesn't simply happen with a few poll workers in flipping Georgia. I think we have become a sour grapes, "If I lose, it's because I was cheated." participation trophy society. You see it daily in these forums. A guy loses a wager and the whole league is rigged. I've been handicapping sports since grade school. I lose I ask, "What did I miss? What did I do wrong?" How do I learn from it. Sometimes there's nothing to learn and it simply comes down to my capping was sound but at the end of the day, my side just didn't get it done. People these days, especially Americans, aren't able to do this. They aren't able to self reflect. They aren't able to be accountable. And this is personified in Trump. The quintessential guy born on third base who thought he hit a triple. He simply can't admit that there are a metric fork ton of people who don't like him. Who though he was not good for America. People who love him can't except this. "How could this be?" It's the same as every democrat who believed in russian election collusion. "How could Hillary lose? It must be rigged" when in reality she lost because she was super unlikable and she campaigned poorly. Trump didn't lose because of election meddling, he lost because he's super unlikable and for several months he saidcovid was a hoax. Without covid, he wins. And it wasn't even his response to covid, which wasn't even bad. It was because he gave democrats all the fuel they needed to make him look like his response was bad. They politicized it from the very beginning and he played right into their hands. "It's a hoax. It'll be gone by Easter." He sowed the seeds of his own demise.

     
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    That was a bit of a rant but it boils down to this. There are simply more liberals than comservatives in America. I think the needle is moving. That there are many up and coming conservative youths of all races but as of now, there are simply more liberals in America. Hell, Hillary Clinton was the most unlikable candidate in modern history and even she won the popular vote. So you look at the zeitgeist that has won recent elections. Clinton was wildly popular but turned many people off. Not for the right reasons (NAFTA, 3 strikes, ect) but for his womanizing. Gore had zero personality. Bush had just enough personality. He wins. Kerry- zero personality. The GOP sells the narrative of him being too weak to be a wartime Pres, Bush wins again. Then after 7 years of a war, much of which is based on false intel, and a wartime economy, America says enough is enough. The democrats, myopic that they are, never saw Obama coming. They wanted to push Hillary. She sucks though. Again incredibly unlikable. And Obama was a tall, good looking charismatic black dude. Obviously he had the black vote but woman loved him too. "I speak jive!" white people loved him. Mainly, he wasn't WMD GWB.

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    That was a bit of a rant but it boils down to this. There are simply more liberals than comservatives in America. I think the needle is moving. That there are many up and coming conservative youths of all races but as of now, there are simply more liberals in America. Hell, Hillary Clinton was the most unlikable candidate in modern history and even she won the popular vote. So you look at the zeitgeist that has won recent elections. Clinton was wildly popular but turned many people off. Not for the right reasons (NAFTA, 3 strikes, ect) but for his womanizing. Gore had zero personality. Bush had just enough personality. He wins. Kerry- zero personality. The GOP sells the narrative of him being too weak to be a wartime Pres, Bush wins again. Then after 7 years of a war, much of which is based on false intel, and a wartime economy, America says enough is enough. The democrats, myopic that they are, never saw Obama coming. They wanted to push Hillary. She sucks though. Again incredibly unlikable. And Obama was a tall, good looking charismatic black dude. Obviously he had the black vote but woman loved him too. "I speak jive!" white people loved him. Mainly, he wasn't WMD GWB.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2020 - 1:47 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: @StumpTownStu I approve of your obsession with the P, but did you see the GA video? What I saw was very limited in scope. Only a few minutes of footage that didn't really ring alarm bells. Enough that if someone had questions, they should be answered, but by no means a smoking gun. Not a smoking anything but definitely a curiosity that should be addressed. All I saw is a handful of workers wheeling around what looks to be Pelican cases. Now if there is more to it. Footage of the workers pulling ballots from said cases, ect then we may have something. However every reputable source on the subject, many of which are lifelong Republicans, have said there is no evidence of fraud. And at a certain point you can't dismiss these people by simply saying, "Well they're a liberal so.... Well they're just a RINO so...." I'm sorry but the "theft of an election", the election to the highest office in the world, doesn't simply happen with a few poll workers in flipping Georgia. I think we have become a sour grapes, "If I lose, it's because I was cheated." participation trophy society. You see it daily in these forums. A guy loses a wager and the whole league is rigged. I've been handicapping sports since grade school. I lose I ask, "What did I miss? What did I do wrong?" How do I learn from it. Sometimes there's nothing to learn and it simply comes down to my capping was sound but at the end of the day, my side just didn't get it done. People these days, especially Americans, aren't able to do this. They aren't able to self reflect. They aren't able to be accountable. And this is personified in Trump. The quintessential guy born on third base who thought he hit a triple. He simply can't admit that there are a metric fork ton of people who don't like him. Who though he was not good for America. People who love him can't except this. "How could this be?" It's the same as every democrat who believed in russian election collusion. "How could Hillary lose? It must be rigged" when in reality she lost because she was super unlikable and she campaigned poorly. Trump didn't lose because of election meddling, he lost because he's super unlikable and for several months he saidcovid was a hoax. Without covid, he wins. And it wasn't even his response to covid, which wasn't even bad. It was because he gave democrats all the fuel they needed to make him look like his response was bad. They politicized it from the very beginning and he played right into their hands. "It's a hoax. It'll be gone by Easter." He sowed the seeds of his own demise.

    I agree with you on Trump. He played his own hand poorly, and our biased media did the rest. 

    In regard to the video?

    People were allegedly sent home because of a burst water pipe. Where is the water? 

    The count had been announced as stopped until 8:30 am the next morning. Why did it continue without Democratic and Republican poll watchers as dictated by GA law? 

    Why are all other ballots in the cardboard boxes yet we see suitcases after the room is emptied?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: @StumpTownStu I approve of your obsession with the P, but did you see the GA video? What I saw was very limited in scope. Only a few minutes of footage that didn't really ring alarm bells. Enough that if someone had questions, they should be answered, but by no means a smoking gun. Not a smoking anything but definitely a curiosity that should be addressed. All I saw is a handful of workers wheeling around what looks to be Pelican cases. Now if there is more to it. Footage of the workers pulling ballots from said cases, ect then we may have something. However every reputable source on the subject, many of which are lifelong Republicans, have said there is no evidence of fraud. And at a certain point you can't dismiss these people by simply saying, "Well they're a liberal so.... Well they're just a RINO so...." I'm sorry but the "theft of an election", the election to the highest office in the world, doesn't simply happen with a few poll workers in flipping Georgia. I think we have become a sour grapes, "If I lose, it's because I was cheated." participation trophy society. You see it daily in these forums. A guy loses a wager and the whole league is rigged. I've been handicapping sports since grade school. I lose I ask, "What did I miss? What did I do wrong?" How do I learn from it. Sometimes there's nothing to learn and it simply comes down to my capping was sound but at the end of the day, my side just didn't get it done. People these days, especially Americans, aren't able to do this. They aren't able to self reflect. They aren't able to be accountable. And this is personified in Trump. The quintessential guy born on third base who thought he hit a triple. He simply can't admit that there are a metric fork ton of people who don't like him. Who though he was not good for America. People who love him can't except this. "How could this be?" It's the same as every democrat who believed in russian election collusion. "How could Hillary lose? It must be rigged" when in reality she lost because she was super unlikable and she campaigned poorly. Trump didn't lose because of election meddling, he lost because he's super unlikable and for several months he saidcovid was a hoax. Without covid, he wins. And it wasn't even his response to covid, which wasn't even bad. It was because he gave democrats all the fuel they needed to make him look like his response was bad. They politicized it from the very beginning and he played right into their hands. "It's a hoax. It'll be gone by Easter." He sowed the seeds of his own demise.

    I agree with you on Trump. He played his own hand poorly, and our biased media did the rest. 

    In regard to the video?

    People were allegedly sent home because of a burst water pipe. Where is the water? 

    The count had been announced as stopped until 8:30 am the next morning. Why did it continue without Democratic and Republican poll watchers as dictated by GA law? 

    Why are all other ballots in the cardboard boxes yet we see suitcases after the room is emptied?

     
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    Meanwhile, it's CRICKETS from the know it all DEEZY on the definition of affidavit. 

    What a pathetic loser.

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    Meanwhile, it's CRICKETS from the know it all DEEZY on the definition of affidavit. 

    What a pathetic loser.

     
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    So what happens in 2016? Again, the democratic party is extremely myopic. They ignore the groundswell of support for Bernie because they were deadset on Hillary. The problem is Hillary was, and is, still incredibly unlikable. So when she gets the nomination, a ton of nonpartisan voters who voted for Obama twice switched to Trump. And a ton of hardcore liberals just stayed home. Literally refused to vote for her. Hillary thought black people would show up for her. We did not. She thought women would show up for her. Some of those chicks showed up just to write in Hill Stein. Trump didn't win in a landslide because all those voters loved him. A lot loved him but many just hated Hillary. And many liberals didn't show up. And many nonpartisan voters said, "You know what? We gave the Democrats 8 years (6 as a lame duck but we won't go there) let's give the right a try. Let's give Trump a try. And after all of that Hillary still won the popular vote. I go back to what I said started this with. There are simply more "liberals" in the country, whether they are registered democrats or not. So those Bernie supporters that stayed home in 2016 came out. The black voters who stayed home in 2016 came out. Trump loses some of the middle of the aisle undecideds over covid, or over his handling of the tax code, or his handling of financial regulations, or his handling of environmental regulations, or over the inflammatory and downright batshit crazy stuff he says sometimes, or because he said he'd never play golf and golfed about once every 4 days, or because they really think he's in Putin's pocket, or because they really believe he's a racist that put mexican kids in cages, or because any number of reasons, valid or invalid, that is why he lost. Not four people in what looks like a hotel ballroom in Georgia

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    So what happens in 2016? Again, the democratic party is extremely myopic. They ignore the groundswell of support for Bernie because they were deadset on Hillary. The problem is Hillary was, and is, still incredibly unlikable. So when she gets the nomination, a ton of nonpartisan voters who voted for Obama twice switched to Trump. And a ton of hardcore liberals just stayed home. Literally refused to vote for her. Hillary thought black people would show up for her. We did not. She thought women would show up for her. Some of those chicks showed up just to write in Hill Stein. Trump didn't win in a landslide because all those voters loved him. A lot loved him but many just hated Hillary. And many liberals didn't show up. And many nonpartisan voters said, "You know what? We gave the Democrats 8 years (6 as a lame duck but we won't go there) let's give the right a try. Let's give Trump a try. And after all of that Hillary still won the popular vote. I go back to what I said started this with. There are simply more "liberals" in the country, whether they are registered democrats or not. So those Bernie supporters that stayed home in 2016 came out. The black voters who stayed home in 2016 came out. Trump loses some of the middle of the aisle undecideds over covid, or over his handling of the tax code, or his handling of financial regulations, or his handling of environmental regulations, or over the inflammatory and downright batshit crazy stuff he says sometimes, or because he said he'd never play golf and golfed about once every 4 days, or because they really think he's in Putin's pocket, or because they really believe he's a racist that put mexican kids in cages, or because any number of reasons, valid or invalid, that is why he lost. Not four people in what looks like a hotel ballroom in Georgia

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: @StumpTownStu I approve of your obsession with the P, but did you see the GA video? What I saw was very limited in scope. Only a few minutes of footage that didn't really ring alarm bells. Enough that if someone had questions, they should be answered, but by no means a smoking gun. Not a smoking anything but definitely a curiosity that should be addressed. All I saw is a handful of workers wheeling around what looks to be Pelican cases. Now if there is more to it. Footage of the workers pulling ballots from said cases, ect then we may have something. However every reputable source on the subject, many of which are lifelong Republicans, have said there is no evidence of fraud. And at a certain point you can't dismiss these people by simply saying, "Well they're a liberal so.... Well they're just a RINO so...." I'm sorry but the "theft of an election", the election to the highest office in the world, doesn't simply happen with a few poll workers in flipping Georgia. I think we have become a sour grapes, "If I lose, it's because I was cheated." participation trophy society. You see it daily in these forums. A guy loses a wager and the whole league is rigged. I've been handicapping sports since grade school. I lose I ask, "What did I miss? What did I do wrong?" How do I learn from it. Sometimes there's nothing to learn and it simply comes down to my capping was sound but at the end of the day, my side just didn't get it done. People these days, especially Americans, aren't able to do this. They aren't able to self reflect. They aren't able to be accountable. And this is personified in Trump. The quintessential guy born on third base who thought he hit a triple. He simply can't admit that there are a metric fork ton of people who don't like him. Who though he was not good for America. People who love him can't except this. "How could this be?" It's the same as every democrat who believed in russian election collusion. "How could Hillary lose? It must be rigged" when in reality she lost because she was super unlikable and she campaigned poorly. Trump didn't lose because of election meddling, he lost because he's super unlikable and for several months he saidcovid was a hoax. Without covid, he wins. And it wasn't even his response to covid, which wasn't even bad. It was because he gave democrats all the fuel they needed to make him look like his response was bad. They politicized it from the very beginning and he played right into their hands. "It's a hoax. It'll be gone by Easter." He sowed the seeds of his own demise. I agree with you on Trump. He played his own hand poorly, and our biased media did the rest.  In regard to the video? People were allegedly sent home because of a burst water pipe. Where is the water?  The count had been announced as stopped until 8:30 am the next morning. Why did it continue without Democratic and Republican poll watchers as dictated by GA law?  Why are all other ballots in the cardboard boxes yet we see suitcases after the room is emptied?

    Maybe polling place ballots were in boxes and mail in ballots were in Pelicans. Hopefully these questions will be answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: @StumpTownStu I approve of your obsession with the P, but did you see the GA video? What I saw was very limited in scope. Only a few minutes of footage that didn't really ring alarm bells. Enough that if someone had questions, they should be answered, but by no means a smoking gun. Not a smoking anything but definitely a curiosity that should be addressed. All I saw is a handful of workers wheeling around what looks to be Pelican cases. Now if there is more to it. Footage of the workers pulling ballots from said cases, ect then we may have something. However every reputable source on the subject, many of which are lifelong Republicans, have said there is no evidence of fraud. And at a certain point you can't dismiss these people by simply saying, "Well they're a liberal so.... Well they're just a RINO so...." I'm sorry but the "theft of an election", the election to the highest office in the world, doesn't simply happen with a few poll workers in flipping Georgia. I think we have become a sour grapes, "If I lose, it's because I was cheated." participation trophy society. You see it daily in these forums. A guy loses a wager and the whole league is rigged. I've been handicapping sports since grade school. I lose I ask, "What did I miss? What did I do wrong?" How do I learn from it. Sometimes there's nothing to learn and it simply comes down to my capping was sound but at the end of the day, my side just didn't get it done. People these days, especially Americans, aren't able to do this. They aren't able to self reflect. They aren't able to be accountable. And this is personified in Trump. The quintessential guy born on third base who thought he hit a triple. He simply can't admit that there are a metric fork ton of people who don't like him. Who though he was not good for America. People who love him can't except this. "How could this be?" It's the same as every democrat who believed in russian election collusion. "How could Hillary lose? It must be rigged" when in reality she lost because she was super unlikable and she campaigned poorly. Trump didn't lose because of election meddling, he lost because he's super unlikable and for several months he saidcovid was a hoax. Without covid, he wins. And it wasn't even his response to covid, which wasn't even bad. It was because he gave democrats all the fuel they needed to make him look like his response was bad. They politicized it from the very beginning and he played right into their hands. "It's a hoax. It'll be gone by Easter." He sowed the seeds of his own demise. I agree with you on Trump. He played his own hand poorly, and our biased media did the rest.  In regard to the video? People were allegedly sent home because of a burst water pipe. Where is the water?  The count had been announced as stopped until 8:30 am the next morning. Why did it continue without Democratic and Republican poll watchers as dictated by GA law?  Why are all other ballots in the cardboard boxes yet we see suitcases after the room is emptied?

    Maybe polling place ballots were in boxes and mail in ballots were in Pelicans. Hopefully these questions will be answered.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2020 - 2:27 PM ET #33

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    Well....27 holes of golf today. It's sort of surprising when you come back and not a single person called me names while I was gone! There is hope in the world I suppose. 

    Meanwhile....catching up on all the news today. 

    All of the irregularities in GA are piling up and getting hard to ignore. We have Democratic election officials admitting mid interview that he hasn't had an opportunity to view the Fullerton County surveillance tape. WHAT? Do these people actually have job requirements?

    Now we learn that not everyone agrees on the water main break as being the reason for halting the count. Now it might just be an overrunning urinal?

    This is all going to make a great movie 40 years from now. 

     

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    Well....27 holes of golf today. It's sort of surprising when you come back and not a single person called me names while I was gone! There is hope in the world I suppose. 

    Meanwhile....catching up on all the news today. 

    All of the irregularities in GA are piling up and getting hard to ignore. We have Democratic election officials admitting mid interview that he hasn't had an opportunity to view the Fullerton County surveillance tape. WHAT? Do these people actually have job requirements?

    Now we learn that not everyone agrees on the water main break as being the reason for halting the count. Now it might just be an overrunning urinal?

    This is all going to make a great movie 40 years from now. 

     

     
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    Well your doing better than Invanka. Her entire new York social life has found a very chilly reception. Unable to face charity affairs without gossip her her husband and their children is making the best of things in a cottage in New Jersey.....

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    Well your doing better than Invanka. Her entire new York social life has found a very chilly reception. Unable to face charity affairs without gossip her her husband and their children is making the best of things in a cottage in New Jersey.....

     
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    Where were all these maniacal conspiracy threads and diatribes last election?

    Wait the Repub was the beneficiary of the fix, so all is well and shut up...but when the poor big guy isnt the winner then the world is one big conspiracy taco..

    Got it...what a moronic snoozer this is.

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    Where were all these maniacal conspiracy threads and diatribes last election?

    Wait the Repub was the beneficiary of the fix, so all is well and shut up...but when the poor big guy isnt the winner then the world is one big conspiracy taco..

    Got it...what a moronic snoozer this is.

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    Meanwhile, a signature audit is going to be initiated in GA. Brian Kemp is going to see to that. 

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    Meanwhile, a signature audit is going to be initiated in GA. Brian Kemp is going to see to that. 

     
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    Here is the difference wallstreet. There were no mail in ballots in 2016. This allowed the Dem operators on 3 and 4 November   to bring out ballots by  the tens of thousands  in the middle of the night for Joe Biden after the counting was stopped at the exact moment in at least 6 states.

    in 2016  Dominion voting  machines were set up with algorithms of 1-2% in various states to steal from Trump and give to HRC. The algorithm was not set high enough. Trump destroyed Clinton at the ballot box.

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    Here is the difference wallstreet. There were no mail in ballots in 2016. This allowed the Dem operators on 3 and 4 November   to bring out ballots by  the tens of thousands  in the middle of the night for Joe Biden after the counting was stopped at the exact moment in at least 6 states.

    in 2016  Dominion voting  machines were set up with algorithms of 1-2% in various states to steal from Trump and give to HRC. The algorithm was not set high enough. Trump destroyed Clinton at the ballot box.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Here is the difference wallstreet. There were no mail in ballots in 2016. This allowed the Dem operators on 3 and 4 November   to bring out ballots by  the tens of thousands  in the middle of the night for Joe Biden after the counting was stopped at the exact moment in at least 6 states. in 2016  Dominion voting  machines were set up with algorithms of 1-2% in various states to steal from Trump and give to HRC. The algorithm was not set high enough. Trump destroyed Clinton at the ballot box.

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughFalse there was indeed masses of mail-in-ballots in 2016 too, including in my state of Arizona in which over 85% voters vote by mail, and always have in recent elections. You are misinformed and just flat out wrong. However, there were more mail in ballots this election due to increased turnout. 

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    Here is the difference wallstreet. There were no mail in ballots in 2016. This allowed the Dem operators on 3 and 4 November   to bring out ballots by  the tens of thousands  in the middle of the night for Joe Biden after the counting was stopped at the exact moment in at least 6 states. in 2016  Dominion voting  machines were set up with algorithms of 1-2% in various states to steal from Trump and give to HRC. The algorithm was not set high enough. Trump destroyed Clinton at the ballot box.

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughFalse there was indeed masses of mail-in-ballots in 2016 too, including in my state of Arizona in which over 85% voters vote by mail, and always have in recent elections. You are misinformed and just flat out wrong. However, there were more mail in ballots this election due to increased turnout. 

     
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    Increased turnout? 

    Nothing to do with states overhauling mail in ballot rules (unconstitutionally in PA) under the cover of Covid?

    As your buddy Biden says, "Come on man".

     

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    Increased turnout? 

    Nothing to do with states overhauling mail in ballot rules (unconstitutionally in PA) under the cover of Covid?

    As your buddy Biden says, "Come on man".

     

     
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     Young voters helped turn Georgia blue this year, and they made up 21% of the turnout earlier this month, the highest youth voter participation of any state in the country. And with those two Senate races still in play, there's another push to get more young people out to vote, specifically aimed at those who turned 18 after Election Day, just in time for the two Senate runoffs on January 5. Brian Nunez is digital organizing manager with Georgia Shift, a group focused on young voter education. He joins us now from Atlanta.

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     Young voters helped turn Georgia blue this year, and they made up 21% of the turnout earlier this month, the highest youth voter participation of any state in the country. And with those two Senate races still in play, there's another push to get more young people out to vote, specifically aimed at those who turned 18 after Election Day, just in time for the two Senate runoffs on January 5. Brian Nunez is digital organizing manager with Georgia Shift, a group focused on young voter education. He joins us now from Atlanta.

     
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    Hi, Brian.

    BRIAN NUNEZ: Thank you for having me.

    MCCAMMON: So how are you tracking down these newly minted 18-year-olds?

    NUNEZ: There's about 23,000 that we know of that are going to turn 18 by January 5, so we want to make sure that all of these young voters are not only registered but they know when to request their absentee ballot and, you know, get them set up.

    MCCAMMON: And then how are you communicating with them?

    NUNEZ: So we definitely want to meet them where they're at. Not only are we doing a social media push - apps like Instagram and, of course, TikTok - but we're also texting because we've seen that those have been the most successful ways. I think that the only thing that we have seen being a little bit slowed down has been our outreach in college campuses that we have not been able to do now.

    MCCAMMON: And, Brian, as you get the word out specifically to these new voters - the people just turning 18 who couldn't vote in November but will be eligible to vote in January - what are you hearing from them?

    NUNEZ: So I can actually tell you that I have very close access to a person like that because my little brother is one of those people. So it is very exciting that I've been having him actually come talk to me like, hey, if I go to college, am I going to have astronomical debt? Is there going to be COVID relief for my parents? And I think that that is something that has a different reality with Black and brown communities being, of course, more affected by everything going on with the pandemic.

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    Hi, Brian.

    BRIAN NUNEZ: Thank you for having me.

    MCCAMMON: So how are you tracking down these newly minted 18-year-olds?

    NUNEZ: There's about 23,000 that we know of that are going to turn 18 by January 5, so we want to make sure that all of these young voters are not only registered but they know when to request their absentee ballot and, you know, get them set up.

    MCCAMMON: And then how are you communicating with them?

    NUNEZ: So we definitely want to meet them where they're at. Not only are we doing a social media push - apps like Instagram and, of course, TikTok - but we're also texting because we've seen that those have been the most successful ways. I think that the only thing that we have seen being a little bit slowed down has been our outreach in college campuses that we have not been able to do now.

    MCCAMMON: And, Brian, as you get the word out specifically to these new voters - the people just turning 18 who couldn't vote in November but will be eligible to vote in January - what are you hearing from them?

    NUNEZ: So I can actually tell you that I have very close access to a person like that because my little brother is one of those people. So it is very exciting that I've been having him actually come talk to me like, hey, if I go to college, am I going to have astronomical debt? Is there going to be COVID relief for my parents? And I think that that is something that has a different reality with Black and brown communities being, of course, more affected by everything going on with the pandemic.

     
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    Source.  https://www.npr.org/2020/11/29/939810951/activists-begin-registering-young-voters-in-preparation-for-georgias-runoff-election

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Here is the difference wallstreet. There were no mail in ballots in 2016. This allowed the Dem operators on 3 and 4 November   to bring out ballots by  the tens of thousands  in the middle of the night for Joe Biden after the counting was stopped at the exact moment in at least 6 states. in 2016  Dominion voting  machines were set up with algorithms of 1-2% in various states to steal from Trump and give to HRC. The algorithm was not set high enough. Trump destroyed Clinton at the ballot box.

    Oh my word grow up...

    Election fraud has been going on since election one. Your crybaby victim candidate is just a selfish idiot more than most. You have to be joking about this being any different than ANY election and no question the GOP gamed the system last time, gaming goes on every single stinking election. No way you can have someone get crushed in the general election like Trump did in 2016 and still win the electoral college without some severe gaming and questions. Same goes for Gore, speaking of that how many years since a GOP won the general election? How is it possible we have a system that can be gamed like this?

    So poor crybaby Trump cant game this one, got OUT gamed in the extreme wacko scenario so the whole thing needs to be torn down...its never happened before, only to the big fat mouth, it only happened to him....waaaaahhhhhhhhh

    Move on...get more general election votes and stop being such a jerk, that might have helped him.

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    Here is the difference wallstreet. There were no mail in ballots in 2016. This allowed the Dem operators on 3 and 4 November   to bring out ballots by  the tens of thousands  in the middle of the night for Joe Biden after the counting was stopped at the exact moment in at least 6 states. in 2016  Dominion voting  machines were set up with algorithms of 1-2% in various states to steal from Trump and give to HRC. The algorithm was not set high enough. Trump destroyed Clinton at the ballot box.

    Oh my word grow up...

    Election fraud has been going on since election one. Your crybaby victim candidate is just a selfish idiot more than most. You have to be joking about this being any different than ANY election and no question the GOP gamed the system last time, gaming goes on every single stinking election. No way you can have someone get crushed in the general election like Trump did in 2016 and still win the electoral college without some severe gaming and questions. Same goes for Gore, speaking of that how many years since a GOP won the general election? How is it possible we have a system that can be gamed like this?

    So poor crybaby Trump cant game this one, got OUT gamed in the extreme wacko scenario so the whole thing needs to be torn down...its never happened before, only to the big fat mouth, it only happened to him....waaaaahhhhhhhhh

    Move on...get more general election votes and stop being such a jerk, that might have helped him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity: I highly suspect those phone calls gambleholic is referencing are actually Republicans who are lying about it.  Could you please identify these individuals for us and their registered political affiliation, gambleholic?  While you're at it, can you show me their ballots that were marked improperly for Biden?  Why haven't these illegal ballots been presented in court?  Why isn't anyone being arrested for an obvious crime with massive evidence?  I could go on but I don't really need to do it.  I already know it's a Republican hoax that has no traction.  One or two weeks later you'll be spouting off more nonsense about another conspiracy theory while pretending that you never promoted this.  This is precisely why I don't respect Republicans.  They just make up shit and when nothing comes from it, they move on to the next pile of bullshit they've got.  Trump lost because he's a giant asshole who sucks at lying and let Americans die from coronavirus.  If you spend the next 4 years denying that, you're probably going to have a very tough time functioning. Over 5000 people have now testified under oath and the threat of prison time for perjury. It is amazing that you think all of these people are lying, yet zero people have been charged with perjury and ZERO will be charged in the end. Meanwhile, let's see how fast the election logs under subpoena in GA get turned over. Those numbers will tell the truth and the whole truth. They have not testified under oath in a court of law. What on Earth are you talking about? Signing an affidavit is under consideration of oath, but is not the same thing as testifying in a state or federal court under oath. If these people are telling the truth, why have they not showed up to any of the state cases, and testified under oath??? Hmmmmm. I think we all know the reason why. You think you are so smart, but your ignorance only shines through.  Affidavit: By signing and affidavit, you swear under penalty of perjury that the documents or statements provided are true to the best of your knowledge. Lying in the affidavit is the SAME as lying in court under oath and constitutes a crime called perjury.

    Wrong on all levels. Which is why these morons won't testify in court. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity: I highly suspect those phone calls gambleholic is referencing are actually Republicans who are lying about it.  Could you please identify these individuals for us and their registered political affiliation, gambleholic?  While you're at it, can you show me their ballots that were marked improperly for Biden?  Why haven't these illegal ballots been presented in court?  Why isn't anyone being arrested for an obvious crime with massive evidence?  I could go on but I don't really need to do it.  I already know it's a Republican hoax that has no traction.  One or two weeks later you'll be spouting off more nonsense about another conspiracy theory while pretending that you never promoted this.  This is precisely why I don't respect Republicans.  They just make up shit and when nothing comes from it, they move on to the next pile of bullshit they've got.  Trump lost because he's a giant asshole who sucks at lying and let Americans die from coronavirus.  If you spend the next 4 years denying that, you're probably going to have a very tough time functioning. Over 5000 people have now testified under oath and the threat of prison time for perjury. It is amazing that you think all of these people are lying, yet zero people have been charged with perjury and ZERO will be charged in the end. Meanwhile, let's see how fast the election logs under subpoena in GA get turned over. Those numbers will tell the truth and the whole truth. They have not testified under oath in a court of law. What on Earth are you talking about? Signing an affidavit is under consideration of oath, but is not the same thing as testifying in a state or federal court under oath. If these people are telling the truth, why have they not showed up to any of the state cases, and testified under oath??? Hmmmmm. I think we all know the reason why. You think you are so smart, but your ignorance only shines through.  Affidavit: By signing and affidavit, you swear under penalty of perjury that the documents or statements provided are true to the best of your knowledge. Lying in the affidavit is the SAME as lying in court under oath and constitutes a crime called perjury.

    Wrong on all levels. Which is why these morons won't testify in court. an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Increased turnout?  Nothing to do with states overhauling mail in ballot rules (unconstitutionally in PA) under the cover of Covid? As your buddy Biden says, "Come on man".

    Yes do you know what voter turnout is? The number of people that vote in an election. Mail-in ballots are legal, and they were not overhauled illegally or unconstitutionally. Funny, that no court in PA has come to this conclusion, yet all of you cry baby Trumpers are riding with the conspiracy over mail-in-ballots. Give it a rest, and get back on your meds. an_light

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    Increased turnout?  Nothing to do with states overhauling mail in ballot rules (unconstitutionally in PA) under the cover of Covid? As your buddy Biden says, "Come on man".

    Yes do you know what voter turnout is? The number of people that vote in an election. Mail-in ballots are legal, and they were not overhauled illegally or unconstitutionally. Funny, that no court in PA has come to this conclusion, yet all of you cry baby Trumpers are riding with the conspiracy over mail-in-ballots. Give it a rest, and get back on your meds. an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Here is the difference wallstreet. There were no mail in ballots in 2016. This allowed the Dem operators on 3 and 4 November   to bring out ballots by  the tens of thousands  in the middle of the night for Joe Biden after the counting was stopped at the exact moment in at least 6 states. in 2016  Dominion voting  machines were set up with algorithms of 1-2% in various states to steal from Trump and give to HRC. The algorithm was not set high enough. Trump destroyed Clinton at the ballot box. Oh my word grow up... Election fraud has been going on since election one. Your crybaby victim candidate is just a selfish idiot more than most. You have to be joking about this being any different than ANY election and no question the GOP gamed the system last time, gaming goes on every single stinking election. No way you can have someone get crushed in the general election like Trump did in 2016 and still win the electoral college without some severe gaming and questions. Same goes for Gore, speaking of that how many years since a GOP won the general election? How is it possible we have a system that can be gamed like this? So poor crybaby Trump cant game this one, got OUT gamed in the extreme wacko scenario so the whole thing needs to be torn down...its never happened before, only to the big fat mouth, it only happened to him....waaaaahhhhhhhhh Move on...get more general election votes and stop being such a jerk, that might have helped him.

    This. None of these brainwashed Trumpers were complaining about any election fraud in 2016 when the election turned out in their favor. However, now that their cult leader has lost, this is the most corrupt, fraudulent election ever. Sad, but true. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Here is the difference wallstreet. There were no mail in ballots in 2016. This allowed the Dem operators on 3 and 4 November   to bring out ballots by  the tens of thousands  in the middle of the night for Joe Biden after the counting was stopped at the exact moment in at least 6 states. in 2016  Dominion voting  machines were set up with algorithms of 1-2% in various states to steal from Trump and give to HRC. The algorithm was not set high enough. Trump destroyed Clinton at the ballot box. Oh my word grow up... Election fraud has been going on since election one. Your crybaby victim candidate is just a selfish idiot more than most. You have to be joking about this being any different than ANY election and no question the GOP gamed the system last time, gaming goes on every single stinking election. No way you can have someone get crushed in the general election like Trump did in 2016 and still win the electoral college without some severe gaming and questions. Same goes for Gore, speaking of that how many years since a GOP won the general election? How is it possible we have a system that can be gamed like this? So poor crybaby Trump cant game this one, got OUT gamed in the extreme wacko scenario so the whole thing needs to be torn down...its never happened before, only to the big fat mouth, it only happened to him....waaaaahhhhhhhhh Move on...get more general election votes and stop being such a jerk, that might have helped him.

    This. None of these brainwashed Trumpers were complaining about any election fraud in 2016 when the election turned out in their favor. However, now that their cult leader has lost, this is the most corrupt, fraudulent election ever. Sad, but true. an_light

     
     
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    In this never ended telling present were in 2016 is an eternity ago. 2018 Kemp Abrams voter suppression Google it. Laws were changed and the democrats have a tremendous opportunity to get real votes real envelopes real signatures addressed and sent registered mail  to real people who will hand count those who wish to observe covid practices. 

    With or without the Republican controlled dominion machines.... the democrats can win this runoff especially when the last court case is dismissed and the electoral college convenes. 

    That disheartening blow to the snow flake factions of the Republican supporters that believe Trump fraud claims will stay home..

    And this next one can be hand recounted till inauguration day the paper ballots will stand.

     

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    In this never ended telling present were in 2016 is an eternity ago. 2018 Kemp Abrams voter suppression Google it. Laws were changed and the democrats have a tremendous opportunity to get real votes real envelopes real signatures addressed and sent registered mail  to real people who will hand count those who wish to observe covid practices. 

    With or without the Republican controlled dominion machines.... the democrats can win this runoff especially when the last court case is dismissed and the electoral college convenes. 

    That disheartening blow to the snow flake factions of the Republican supporters that believe Trump fraud claims will stay home..

    And this next one can be hand recounted till inauguration day the paper ballots will stand.

     

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