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    Looks like Trump learned a lesson from his first term. Avoiding politicians and hiring private business people to many cabinet positions. The kind of people who actually know how to get things done an

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 1:11 PM ET #1

    "The American people re-elected President Trump by a resounding margin, giving him a mandate to implement the promises he made on the campaign trail, and his Cabinet picks reflect his priority to put America First

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    "The American people re-elected President Trump by a resounding margin, giving him a mandate to implement the promises he made on the campaign trail, and his Cabinet picks reflect his priority to put America First

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 1:14 PM ET #2

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     Every day since Nov 5th has been a new experience of feeling good and happiness.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     Every day since Nov 5th has been a new experience of feeling good and happiness.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043:

    @cdog8043  Every day since Nov 5th has been a new experience of feeling good and happiness.

    Feeling good and happiness is so much better then the politics of Joy......

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    @cdog8043  Every day since Nov 5th has been a new experience of feeling good and happiness.

    Feeling good and happiness is so much better then the politics of Joy......

     
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    Did you see the Trump Dance by NFL players?

    Try searching YouTube for "Detroit Lions Trump Dance" and you won't find it. They try like hell to bury it. an_roll_laugh

    Here it is;  strange dude talking

    Would like to see the NFL ban the dance.Then the whole stadium would dance it. an_roll_laugh

    It ain't going away.

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    Did you see the Trump Dance by NFL players?

    Try searching YouTube for "Detroit Lions Trump Dance" and you won't find it. They try like hell to bury it. an_roll_laugh

    Here it is;  strange dude talking

    Would like to see the NFL ban the dance.Then the whole stadium would dance it. an_roll_laugh

    It ain't going away.

     
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    I am not a big fan of all of his nominees or purported nominees. but hey at least there are no dudes in high heels with lipstick or the pathological liar/unable to directly answer a question like the current Press Secretary. Two of the worst hires ever. DEIA at its finest. I am sure there will be a fair number of flops that get replaced by Trump like any President, but we appear at least for the most part trending in the right direction and that is all you can ask for out of the gates.

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    I am not a big fan of all of his nominees or purported nominees. but hey at least there are no dudes in high heels with lipstick or the pathological liar/unable to directly answer a question like the current Press Secretary. Two of the worst hires ever. DEIA at its finest. I am sure there will be a fair number of flops that get replaced by Trump like any President, but we appear at least for the most part trending in the right direction and that is all you can ask for out of the gates.

     
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     At least Trump has no problem replacing those who don't do their job. an_light

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     At least Trump has no problem replacing those who don't do their job. an_light

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2024 - 1:17 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043: @cdog8043  Every day since Nov 5th has been a new experience of feeling good and happiness. Feeling good and happiness is so much better then the politics of Joy......

    lets be fair , Kamala's campaign was all about joy and bringing Joy back , and she delivered on this promise an_winkan_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043: @cdog8043  Every day since Nov 5th has been a new experience of feeling good and happiness. Feeling good and happiness is so much better then the politics of Joy......

    lets be fair , Kamala's campaign was all about joy and bringing Joy back , and she delivered on this promise an_winkan_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043: @cdog8043  Every day since Nov 5th has been a new experience of feeling good and happiness. Feeling good and happiness is so much better then the politics of Joy...... lets be fair , Kamala's campaign was all about joy and bringing Joy back , and she delivered on this promise

    It was about a bunch of 60-something year old, post menopausal women and happy men crusading for a woman's right to choose. Don't get me wrong, i'm not some huge pro-lifer but as I said here months ago, the democrats seemed to put all their eggs in that basket,no pun intended. And I, based on my own anecdotal onservation, I just didn't think the issue resonated with women 18-35. It certainly didn't register with suburban house wifes, most of which are mothers. That's how I know it's all a farce. There were actual positives to come from the Biden administration. Successes. You wouldn't have known it based on that campaign though. It's like they were trying to lose. Harris could've said, "We have made strides. The economy is humming along. Unemployment is low. We know we have failed you all at the southern border. I plan to make tne border a focus of this next 4 years.

    The democrats are so afraid of chasing away their Hispanic/Latino voters that all they ended up doing is chasing away their Hispanic/Latino voters. And if you know Latins, they're traditionally conservative anyway. They're almost all catholic, very patriarchal, very homophobic, for lack of a better term. More so, they believe in traditional family structures and values. And the machismo thing is real. A latin man was never going to vote for Harris anyway. Might as well come out strong on the border. Maybe you lose a few Latina but you make gains in literally every other demographic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by cdog8043: @cdog8043  Every day since Nov 5th has been a new experience of feeling good and happiness. Feeling good and happiness is so much better then the politics of Joy...... lets be fair , Kamala's campaign was all about joy and bringing Joy back , and she delivered on this promise

    It was about a bunch of 60-something year old, post menopausal women and happy men crusading for a woman's right to choose. Don't get me wrong, i'm not some huge pro-lifer but as I said here months ago, the democrats seemed to put all their eggs in that basket,no pun intended. And I, based on my own anecdotal onservation, I just didn't think the issue resonated with women 18-35. It certainly didn't register with suburban house wifes, most of which are mothers. That's how I know it's all a farce. There were actual positives to come from the Biden administration. Successes. You wouldn't have known it based on that campaign though. It's like they were trying to lose. Harris could've said, "We have made strides. The economy is humming along. Unemployment is low. We know we have failed you all at the southern border. I plan to make tne border a focus of this next 4 years.

    The democrats are so afraid of chasing away their Hispanic/Latino voters that all they ended up doing is chasing away their Hispanic/Latino voters. And if you know Latins, they're traditionally conservative anyway. They're almost all catholic, very patriarchal, very homophobic, for lack of a better term. More so, they believe in traditional family structures and values. And the machismo thing is real. A latin man was never going to vote for Harris anyway. Might as well come out strong on the border. Maybe you lose a few Latina but you make gains in literally every other demographic.

     
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    If the shave their head and deny men sex for the next four years want it this way, then you go-girl!!

    Crazy people produce crazy offspring, so keep on that chastity belt

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    If the shave their head and deny men sex for the next four years want it this way, then you go-girl!!

    Crazy people produce crazy offspring, so keep on that chastity belt

     
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    Trump wants to hire crackpots to run government agencies.  Main criterion is blind loyalty.  Qualities such as competence or experience have no bearing whatsoever.  In first term, adults prevented Trump from implementing his worst policies.  No other president has such a high turnover rate in cabinet.  DeSantis said that Trump achieved nothing of legislative significance.  Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments.

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    Trump wants to hire crackpots to run government agencies.  Main criterion is blind loyalty.  Qualities such as competence or experience have no bearing whatsoever.  In first term, adults prevented Trump from implementing his worst policies.  No other president has such a high turnover rate in cabinet.  DeSantis said that Trump achieved nothing of legislative significance.  Survey of historians rank him as the worst president in executive appointments.

     
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    Elon has 100% spent more time with the POS in the past two weeks than Melania has in the past two years. She's probably ecstatic about that. 

    This is reasonable for someone who buys a president.

    "We will take America without firing a shot." Nikita Khrushchev, Moscow November 18, 1956 

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    Elon has 100% spent more time with the POS in the past two weeks than Melania has in the past two years. She's probably ecstatic about that. 

    This is reasonable for someone who buys a president.

    "We will take America without firing a shot." Nikita Khrushchev, Moscow November 18, 1956 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Elon has 100% spent more time with the POS in the past two weeks than Melania has in the past two years. She's probably ecstatic about that.  This is reasonable for someone who buys a president. "We will take America without firing a shot." Nikita Khrushchev, Moscow November 18, 1956

    Influence of big money in politics is one of the reasons why US has a failing democracy.  Problem is the best fundraisers elected instead of the best policies.  What's best for billionaires may not be best for most Americans.  In more democratic countries, parties are funded by tax payers with limits for donations from private sector.  

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    Elon has 100% spent more time with the POS in the past two weeks than Melania has in the past two years. She's probably ecstatic about that.  This is reasonable for someone who buys a president. "We will take America without firing a shot." Nikita Khrushchev, Moscow November 18, 1956

    Influence of big money in politics is one of the reasons why US has a failing democracy.  Problem is the best fundraisers elected instead of the best policies.  What's best for billionaires may not be best for most Americans.  In more democratic countries, parties are funded by tax payers with limits for donations from private sector.  

     
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    Appearing on a Christian nationalist podcast last night, Pete Hegseth said he's creating a system of "classical Christian schools" to provide recruits for an underground army that will eventually launch an "educational insurgency" across the nation.

    Sounds like the American version of the Taliban.

    This isn't a Christian nation. It's a nation where you are free to be Christian.

    WTF???

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    Appearing on a Christian nationalist podcast last night, Pete Hegseth said he's creating a system of "classical Christian schools" to provide recruits for an underground army that will eventually launch an "educational insurgency" across the nation.

    Sounds like the American version of the Taliban.

    This isn't a Christian nation. It's a nation where you are free to be Christian.

    WTF???

     
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    Trump says he's nominating Dr. Oz to run the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS.

    I guess the other fraud, Dr. Phil, wasn't available or is holding out for a better position.

    But then again, Gary Bussey turned down his offer because he didn't like the dental plan offered & Kid Rock wants to be Head of the Liquor Cabinet.

    You Can't Make This Shit up!

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    Trump says he's nominating Dr. Oz to run the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS.

    I guess the other fraud, Dr. Phil, wasn't available or is holding out for a better position.

    But then again, Gary Bussey turned down his offer because he didn't like the dental plan offered & Kid Rock wants to be Head of the Liquor Cabinet.

    You Can't Make This Shit up!

     
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    Heard Husky Musky is complaining about all these boxes in the bathroom he wants to use at Mar A Lardo.

     

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    Heard Husky Musky is complaining about all these boxes in the bathroom he wants to use at Mar A Lardo.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Trump says he's nominating Dr. Oz to run the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS. I guess the other fraud, Dr. Phil, wasn't available or is holding out for a better position. But then again, Gary Bussey turned down his offer because he didn't like the dental plan offered & Kid Rock wants to be Head of the Liquor Cabinet. You Can't Make This Shit up!

    they actually have a liquor outlet in Congress , guess who is the person behind that ? 3..2..1.. who is it ? 

    she seems most qualified to oversee it and should remain in charge .

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    Trump says he's nominating Dr. Oz to run the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS. I guess the other fraud, Dr. Phil, wasn't available or is holding out for a better position. But then again, Gary Bussey turned down his offer because he didn't like the dental plan offered & Kid Rock wants to be Head of the Liquor Cabinet. You Can't Make This Shit up!

    they actually have a liquor outlet in Congress , guess who is the person behind that ? 3..2..1.. who is it ? 

    she seems most qualified to oversee it and should remain in charge .

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2024 - 6:08 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Influence of big money in politics is one of the reasons why US has a failing democracy.  Problem is the best fundraisers elected instead of the best policies.  What's best for billionaires may not be best for most Americans.  In more democratic countries, parties are funded by tax payers with limits for donations from private sector.

    That's true ..however we are not a democrat country..

    I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
    and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation
    under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Influence of big money in politics is one of the reasons why US has a failing democracy.  Problem is the best fundraisers elected instead of the best policies.  What's best for billionaires may not be best for most Americans.  In more democratic countries, parties are funded by tax payers with limits for donations from private sector.

    That's true ..however we are not a democrat country..

    I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
    and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation
    under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2024 - 6:15 PM ET #20

     The people elected the President based on policies. The advice and consent of the Senate should not block those policies. The current cabinet is the most unqualified cabinet in our history. They were appointed by Biden. Although unqualified, they were confirmed. Trump’s appointments are qualified, rather than meeting some identity characteristic.

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     The people elected the President based on policies. The advice and consent of the Senate should not block those policies. The current cabinet is the most unqualified cabinet in our history. They were appointed by Biden. Although unqualified, they were confirmed. Trump’s appointments are qualified, rather than meeting some identity characteristic.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Elon has 100% spent more time with the POS in the past two weeks than Melania has in the past two years. She's probably ecstatic about that.  This is reasonable for someone who buys a president. "We will take America without firing a shot." Nikita Khrushchev, Moscow November 18, 1956 Influence of big money in politics is one of the reasons why US has a failing democracy.  Problem is the best fundraisers elected instead of the best policies.     What's best for billionaires may not be best for most Americans.  In more democratic countries, parties are funded by tax payers with limits for donations from private sector.

    NYT; https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/us/politics/harris-campaign-finances.html

    Kamala Harris spent $1.5 billion dollars in 15 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Elon has 100% spent more time with the POS in the past two weeks than Melania has in the past two years. She's probably ecstatic about that.  This is reasonable for someone who buys a president. "We will take America without firing a shot." Nikita Khrushchev, Moscow November 18, 1956 Influence of big money in politics is one of the reasons why US has a failing democracy.  Problem is the best fundraisers elected instead of the best policies.     What's best for billionaires may not be best for most Americans.  In more democratic countries, parties are funded by tax payers with limits for donations from private sector.

    NYT; https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/us/politics/harris-campaign-finances.html

    Kamala Harris spent $1.5 billion dollars in 15 weeks.

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     Hmmm, I seem to remember Jeff Sessions who thought he would be fired every week, Scott Pruitt who's ethics weren't his strong point, Rick Perry who wanted to abolish a department but couldn't remember which one, Betsy Devos who never visited a public school while Secretary of Education & let's not forget my favorite Ryan Zinke & many more. 

    Not all cabinets are great but the one this POS is putting together is dangerous because they lack expertise in fields they will lead. C'mon Linda McMahon for Secretary of Education. Shit even DeVos knew a little about school systems. Dr. Oz? Get Real

    Things are going to get very interesting. 

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     Hmmm, I seem to remember Jeff Sessions who thought he would be fired every week, Scott Pruitt who's ethics weren't his strong point, Rick Perry who wanted to abolish a department but couldn't remember which one, Betsy Devos who never visited a public school while Secretary of Education & let's not forget my favorite Ryan Zinke & many more. 

    Not all cabinets are great but the one this POS is putting together is dangerous because they lack expertise in fields they will lead. C'mon Linda McMahon for Secretary of Education. Shit even DeVos knew a little about school systems. Dr. Oz? Get Real

    Things are going to get very interesting. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2024 - 10:29 PM ET #23

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     Yes,  sit quietly and watch—lots and lots of negativity from the Covers dems.

    You'll have 4 years.

    Do you get a hall pass for calling President-Elect a POS-?

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     Yes,  sit quietly and watch—lots and lots of negativity from the Covers dems.

    You'll have 4 years.

    Do you get a hall pass for calling President-Elect a POS-?

     
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    The way this former Congressman writes about it points out the difference between experience in the private sector and solely having political 'experience' and the hurdle that might be.  Part of it:

    "If you are a mechanic, you must work on engines and know what you're doing when you apply for a new job. The same is true for electricians, plumbers, and people in the business world. Experience is a valuable thing to have on your resume.

    President Trump is receiving a lot of negative press regarding some of his nominees for cabinet positions. The other evening, 60 Minutes did a short hit piece listing Marco Rubio, RFK Jr., and several others as unfit for Cabinet members because they had no experience.

    This begs the question: Experience in what? The general assumption is that these individuals have no experience in the proposed areas of responsibility. In the private sector, that makes a great deal of sense. But what about the government?

    Is not “government only experience” the big issue with the deep state that President Trump is trying to erase? As a businessman and not a politician when he was elected president, Mr. Trump was something the federal government was not accustomed to. A person who demanded efficiency and expertise from their employees. His approach shook up the deep state, and they immediately went to work trying to destroy him as an individual to keep him from serving as the president.

    They did not know what to do. Here was a person who expected hard work, honesty, and loyalty to the American system of government. He demanded results but was rewarded with disloyalty and distaste for what he was asking. The bureaucrats hid behind the protection they had built for themselves over the years, thumbed their noses at Trump, and just did things their way. 

    Mr. Biden is an excellent example of the deep-state experience. Experience having nothing to do with balancing a checkbook, demanding efficiency from its employees, or facing being fired for incompetent work. This comment, in no way, infers he is a bad person. It only points out that his entire career since entering the workforce has been in government. Like many other long-time politicians in Congress, understanding how the private sector works is beyond their realm of experience, competence, and understanding.

    Over the years, as the federal government has become increasingly bloated, the employees have built a shield of rules and regulations that protect them.

    This is the buzzsaw of experience that President Trump encountered during his first term. Now, he knows better. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will encounter this same wall of government experience when they attempt to make cuts and streamline agencies. It is going to be a high mountain to climb. 

    A little free advice for Elon and Vivek from someone with 12 years of experience serving as a US Congressman: do not go after the people. You will get nowhere. The Achilles heel is money. An agency can only function with money taken from working people's incomes. Befriend influential people on the Appropriations Committee and go after the money in the agencies you desire to cut back. Otherwise, you will be unsuccessful in your attempt to downsize the government. 

    This will be a battle of private sector experience against deep state political experience.

    Just sayin’ "

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    The way this former Congressman writes about it points out the difference between experience in the private sector and solely having political 'experience' and the hurdle that might be.  Part of it:

    "If you are a mechanic, you must work on engines and know what you're doing when you apply for a new job. The same is true for electricians, plumbers, and people in the business world. Experience is a valuable thing to have on your resume.

    President Trump is receiving a lot of negative press regarding some of his nominees for cabinet positions. The other evening, 60 Minutes did a short hit piece listing Marco Rubio, RFK Jr., and several others as unfit for Cabinet members because they had no experience.

    This begs the question: Experience in what? The general assumption is that these individuals have no experience in the proposed areas of responsibility. In the private sector, that makes a great deal of sense. But what about the government?

    Is not “government only experience” the big issue with the deep state that President Trump is trying to erase? As a businessman and not a politician when he was elected president, Mr. Trump was something the federal government was not accustomed to. A person who demanded efficiency and expertise from their employees. His approach shook up the deep state, and they immediately went to work trying to destroy him as an individual to keep him from serving as the president.

    They did not know what to do. Here was a person who expected hard work, honesty, and loyalty to the American system of government. He demanded results but was rewarded with disloyalty and distaste for what he was asking. The bureaucrats hid behind the protection they had built for themselves over the years, thumbed their noses at Trump, and just did things their way. 

    Mr. Biden is an excellent example of the deep-state experience. Experience having nothing to do with balancing a checkbook, demanding efficiency from its employees, or facing being fired for incompetent work. This comment, in no way, infers he is a bad person. It only points out that his entire career since entering the workforce has been in government. Like many other long-time politicians in Congress, understanding how the private sector works is beyond their realm of experience, competence, and understanding.

    Over the years, as the federal government has become increasingly bloated, the employees have built a shield of rules and regulations that protect them.

    This is the buzzsaw of experience that President Trump encountered during his first term. Now, he knows better. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will encounter this same wall of government experience when they attempt to make cuts and streamline agencies. It is going to be a high mountain to climb. 

    A little free advice for Elon and Vivek from someone with 12 years of experience serving as a US Congressman: do not go after the people. You will get nowhere. The Achilles heel is money. An agency can only function with money taken from working people's incomes. Befriend influential people on the Appropriations Committee and go after the money in the agencies you desire to cut back. Otherwise, you will be unsuccessful in your attempt to downsize the government. 

    This will be a battle of private sector experience against deep state political experience.

    Just sayin’ "

    peace_5

     
     
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      It wouldn't matter who Trump named for any position, the libs were gonna have a fit about it, all the while forgetting about the circus that Biden put together as a cabinet.

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