Mike Pence makes moves to campaign for President.

So I say; When states changed their elections illegally as several did through various means the Republicans needed to step in right away and contest those changes BEFORE the election. Big mistake to wait afterwards. That won't happen again!!

And you perceive that as saying the election was fair. 

In reality no election is completely fair. Yet the 2020 election was the most f'd up election I have ever seen in my lifetime. First you had one candidate who stayed in his basement. Why? Because the news media and internet controllers were out to attack the other candidate. Then you had false news stories like bounties on US military in Afghanistan. Total suppression of Hunter's laptop (Soviet style) no investigations into " pay for play" Biden family overseas schemes. 

Then you had ballot harvesting in Minnesota on tape. A millionaire donating millions to run the elections designed to get democrat votes. States bypassing their legislatures and changing election rules like don't scrutinize signatures as required. Democrat strongholds refusing to let observers watch using covid as the excuse. Ballots counted after telling observers to leave.

No one smoking gun but many things all tied together.

When you read posts here on Covers about election fraud there is always one word used: MASSIVE " No evidence of MASSIVE voter fraud". That is because, as I said, many things all tied together to create one of the most dishonest elections in my lifetime. Using the word massive a play on words.

his saving grace compared with chump is twofold ::

.... pence is not known to be pathetic loser who is head of a known crime family currently embroiled in multiple fraud & criminal  investigations

.... pence is hands down a better human being than chump - by a long shot

he will still lose    but that doesnt change those  facts

I don't expect he would win a primary but I have no real animosity toward the man.

@KellyM_1964

 Trump Derangement Syndrome is a nasty mental disorder. I know others who are dying from it also. Seems that these clot shots make it worse...

@UNIMAN

 Sorry about delayed response was out of town all weekend.

You saw all that stuff happening when you went to vote,or this is what the "pillow guy" was telling you happened?So it was the most f'cked up election you have ever seen in your life because 1 candidate stayed in his basement,WTF you care where he's at,how would that ever change any election results?And basically all judges,and ones that trump appointed say your wrong about the election not being fair.He also said the 2016 election was "rigged",was he telling the truth there too,or is it just rigged when he loses?And like you basically said,you can't cry about the rules,after you LOST the election.

So evidently you thought he was justified in trying to overturn the election results on Jan. 6th?

its very unlikely his presidency would b as bad as the  outrageous donnie chump disaster     but youre right he wouldnt win a primary so its all moot

“His saving grace”

”But he would still lose” 

Pence certifying a fraudulent election was the real insurrection!!! 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/13/mike-pence-speaks-at-university-of-virginia-the-antidote-to-woke-america-is-freedom/

Read the comments below the article if you want to know what people in his party think of him. His political career is over, but he will never go hungry as his corporate masters will always take care of him. 

Fair questions; with obvious answers

@MrWhatsItToYa

France did away with mail in voting in the 1970s because it led to fraudulent vote counts...they did reinstitute briefly because of Covid, so they had no choice...now the French have gone back to the old fashioned, in person, voting system used for generations and they do require voter ID. 

Those posters stating that there has never been mail in voter fraud are simply reporting lies that they heard on MSM...
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/voting-france-paper-ballots-cast-person-machines-83954517

Unless DeSantis commits some heinous blunders in 2024 my money is on him to win the republican nomination.

Trump admitted he lost the election.

He knew their was voter fraud his staff was commiting it.

more fact 

"You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," — Hillary Clinton 

Clinton said Americans need to "make sure that the election is not interfered with in that 'sweeping and systemic' way that Mueller found it was in the prior election" and how to "protect our candidates from that."

Sadly our election was interfered with in 2020. MSNBC’s John Brennan, CNN’s John Clapper, Leon Panetta, and 47 other former intelligence officials lied to the American public and said the information on Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinformation. 

The story was buried by Twitter, Facebook, Google, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Huffington Post, and the USA Today. 

This happened at the height of a Presidential election and the lie pushed by the 50 former intelligence officials gave Joe Biden an easy out during the debates. 

This is what election interference looks like. 

@MrWhatsItToYa

Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered.

MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it. 

James Clapper — Director of National Intelligence appointed by Barack Obama, hired by CNN in 2017 

John Brennan — Barack Obama’s intelligence and foreign policy advisor in 2008. Appointed Director of the CIA by Barack Obama in 2013. Hired by MSNBC in 2018 

Leon Panetta — Secretary of Defense appointed by Barack Obama. Director of CIA appointed by Barack Obama. Bill Clinton’s chief of Staff. 

Michael Morell — Director of the CIA appointed by Barack Obama 

Stephen Holmes — CIA Moscow Station Chief 

Who else was part of the group that interfered in the 2020 election? 

Makes sense

Richard Ledgett — Director of the NSA appointed by Barack Obama. Ledgett headed the investigation of leaks regarding NSA surveillance programs made by Edward Snowden.

Jeremy Bash — His ex wife is CNN’s Dana Bash. Senior Advisor to Leon Panetta at the Department of Defense and at the CIA 

Who else? 

"So look.All I want to do is this.I just want to find 11,780 votes,which is 1 more then we have,"  donald trump

Ya this is the guy complaining about there being unfair election results.

Welp, when he was complaining that frauds were trying to steal the 2020 election he was right -

except it was HIM!

So didn’t Hillary. What’s your point? 

I hear that Hillary has a Summertime pantsuit that she wears by the swimming pool...

I wonder if John Kasich will run again for the republican nomination? Dogs would gather to watch him eat.