Quote Originally Posted by JCtime27: @MrWhatsItToYa Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered. MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it.Germany and the UK and Spain do allow it,so again who gives a f*ck about France,unless your trying to vote in France."can be" doesn't mean it was,just means it can be.Every judge who has heard and seen the so-called evidence,has dismissed the con mans claims.Even the judges who trump put into those positions.No trump saying it was voter fraud is what you bought,but he said that in 2016 also,but you didn't buy it then,why believe him one time he says it,but not the other time?
Another very good point!
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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:
Quote Originally Posted by JCtime27: @MrWhatsItToYa Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered. MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it.Germany and the UK and Spain do allow it,so again who gives a f*ck about France,unless your trying to vote in France."can be" doesn't mean it was,just means it can be.Every judge who has heard and seen the so-called evidence,has dismissed the con mans claims.Even the judges who trump put into those positions.No trump saying it was voter fraud is what you bought,but he said that in 2016 also,but you didn't buy it then,why believe him one time he says it,but not the other time?
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: "So look.All I want to do is this.I just want to find 11,780 votes,which is 1 more then we have," donald trump Ya this is the guy complaining about there being unfair election results. So didn’t Hillary. What’s your point?
"So didn't Hillary"
You kinda lost me on how you phrased this.Are you trying to say Hillary also complained on there being unfair election results?
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: "So look.All I want to do is this.I just want to find 11,780 votes,which is 1 more then we have," donald trump Ya this is the guy complaining about there being unfair election results. So didn’t Hillary. What’s your point?
"So didn't Hillary"
You kinda lost me on how you phrased this.Are you trying to say Hillary also complained on there being unfair election results?
The only difference being Hillary wasn't committing voter fraud by calling the Georgia Sec of State to try and "find 11,000 votes" to overturn the election she lost.At the same time as she was complaining of others committing voter fraud.
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The only difference being Hillary wasn't committing voter fraud by calling the Georgia Sec of State to try and "find 11,000 votes" to overturn the election she lost.At the same time as she was complaining of others committing voter fraud.
FBI officials James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, the former British spy Christopher Steele, Jake Sullivan (now national security adviser to Joe Biden), John Podesta and others conspired to weave a false narrative that Trump was colluding with a hostile foreign sovereignty. They falsified evidence, deceived law enforcement and exploited access to highly sensitive data.
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There’s a few other differences.
FBI officials James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, the former British spy Christopher Steele, Jake Sullivan (now national security adviser to Joe Biden), John Podesta and others conspired to weave a false narrative that Trump was colluding with a hostile foreign sovereignty. They falsified evidence, deceived law enforcement and exploited access to highly sensitive data.
Hillary also told Democratic presidential nominee Biden that he should not concede the upcoming election “under any circumstances” because she believes “this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don’t give an inch”.
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Hillary also told Democratic presidential nominee Biden that he should not concede the upcoming election “under any circumstances” because she believes “this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don’t give an inch”.
MrWhatsItToYa, Since you’re smarter than the rest of us and have a stronger grasp on today’s political climate — can I ask you one more question? When Hillary told Biden not to concede the election under any circumstances — what did she mean by that?
Awe thanks for the acknowledgement,but just cause I'm smarter then you,doesn't mean I would know (or even pretend to know),or even speculate as to why someone would make a comment.
And no other comment to post #55,besides "There's a few other differences".That's your defense about someone committing voter fraud,the same "voter fraud"that you trump supporters are all complaining about?You want the election results changed for "voter fraud",as your guy is committing "voter fraud",even you gotta be smarter then that.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
MrWhatsItToYa, Since you’re smarter than the rest of us and have a stronger grasp on today’s political climate — can I ask you one more question? When Hillary told Biden not to concede the election under any circumstances — what did she mean by that?
Awe thanks for the acknowledgement,but just cause I'm smarter then you,doesn't mean I would know (or even pretend to know),or even speculate as to why someone would make a comment.
And no other comment to post #55,besides "There's a few other differences".That's your defense about someone committing voter fraud,the same "voter fraud"that you trump supporters are all complaining about?You want the election results changed for "voter fraud",as your guy is committing "voter fraud",even you gotta be smarter then that.
@MrWhatsItToYa Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered. MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it.
So you try to murder a sitting Vice President. ?
That's an act of treason. Did he take his case to the judges he appointed.? Remember the I am having a meltdown Rudy Giuliani. ? Did his team succeed. Did the republican legislatures and governor's in the states in question certify the votes? Did they all put their seal in saying this is an accurate account of the election.?
Could Georgia manufacture 11,279 votes trump needed to win. No. Trump lost the election Killary lost Gore lost. It happens and all the recounts will be the same not enough discrepancies to over turn the election.
Trump admitted he lost. Killary still blamed Putin in some dream land she lives in. Gore moved on . Tough close and Trump fell short. But he the only one who organized a lynch mob to overturn a free and fair election process at the 11th hour .
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Quote Originally Posted by JCtime27:
@MrWhatsItToYa Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered. MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it.
So you try to murder a sitting Vice President. ?
That's an act of treason. Did he take his case to the judges he appointed.? Remember the I am having a meltdown Rudy Giuliani. ? Did his team succeed. Did the republican legislatures and governor's in the states in question certify the votes? Did they all put their seal in saying this is an accurate account of the election.?
Could Georgia manufacture 11,279 votes trump needed to win. No. Trump lost the election Killary lost Gore lost. It happens and all the recounts will be the same not enough discrepancies to over turn the election.
Trump admitted he lost. Killary still blamed Putin in some dream land she lives in. Gore moved on . Tough close and Trump fell short. But he the only one who organized a lynch mob to overturn a free and fair election process at the 11th hour .
So you try to murder a sitting Vice President. ? That's an act of treason. Did he take his case to the judges he appointed.? Remember the I am having a meltdown Rudy Giuliani. ? Did his team succeed. Did the republican legislatures and governor's in the states in question certify the votes? Did they all put their seal in saying this is an accurate account of the election.? Could Georgia manufacture 11,279 votes trump needed to win. No. Trump lost the election Killary lost Gore lost. It happens and all the recounts will be the same not enough discrepancies to over turn the election. Trump admitted he lost. Killary still blamed Putin in some dream land she lives in. Gore moved on . Tough close and Trump fell short. But he the only one who organized a lynch mob to overturn a free and fair election process at the 11th hour .
Who tried to murder the white haired mouse? Nobody did...that story has legs only in your tortured mind.
For me there are only two categories of Americans now...patriots and traitors. This lynch mob as you call them were unarmed so your categorization of this as an insurrection to overturn an election is pure fantasy. I do hold Trump accountable for hiring Sessions, Barr, Wray and others. He needed to hire loyal people like all of the other presidents before him.
JFK hired his brother Robert as his attorney general. RFK had a law degree but he never tried one case in his life. Was he independent from the presidency...? Hell no as he ran his brother's campaign for the presidency. Were Obama's AGs neutral and independent from the presidency? Hell no...
Of course you pendejos are lost in Trump hatred which has brought the country to the brink of an economic collapse and a thermonuclear war. Biden's handlers are destroying the country intentionally and you are too boneheaded to see it.
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
So you try to murder a sitting Vice President. ? That's an act of treason. Did he take his case to the judges he appointed.? Remember the I am having a meltdown Rudy Giuliani. ? Did his team succeed. Did the republican legislatures and governor's in the states in question certify the votes? Did they all put their seal in saying this is an accurate account of the election.? Could Georgia manufacture 11,279 votes trump needed to win. No. Trump lost the election Killary lost Gore lost. It happens and all the recounts will be the same not enough discrepancies to over turn the election. Trump admitted he lost. Killary still blamed Putin in some dream land she lives in. Gore moved on . Tough close and Trump fell short. But he the only one who organized a lynch mob to overturn a free and fair election process at the 11th hour .
Who tried to murder the white haired mouse? Nobody did...that story has legs only in your tortured mind.
For me there are only two categories of Americans now...patriots and traitors. This lynch mob as you call them were unarmed so your categorization of this as an insurrection to overturn an election is pure fantasy. I do hold Trump accountable for hiring Sessions, Barr, Wray and others. He needed to hire loyal people like all of the other presidents before him.
JFK hired his brother Robert as his attorney general. RFK had a law degree but he never tried one case in his life. Was he independent from the presidency...? Hell no as he ran his brother's campaign for the presidency. Were Obama's AGs neutral and independent from the presidency? Hell no...
Of course you pendejos are lost in Trump hatred which has brought the country to the brink of an economic collapse and a thermonuclear war. Biden's handlers are destroying the country intentionally and you are too boneheaded to see it.
The only difference being Hillary wasn't committing voter fraud by calling the Georgia Sec of State to try and "find 11,000 votes" to overturn the election she lost.At the same time as she was complaining of others committing voter fraud.
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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:
The only difference being Hillary wasn't committing voter fraud by calling the Georgia Sec of State to try and "find 11,000 votes" to overturn the election she lost.At the same time as she was complaining of others committing voter fraud.
Quote Originally Posted by JCtime27: Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered. MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it.
So you try to murder a sitting Vice President. ?
That's an act of treason.
treason
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
Quote Originally Posted by JCtime27: Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered. MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it.
Finding more votes after an investigation or recount isn’t voter fraud
Ya that's true,unfortunately for your story and your completely bullsh*t defense of him,that ain't what happened.
On Jan. 2nd 2021,trump held a 1 hour phone call with Raffensperger.During the phone call,trump maintained falsely that he had won Georgia by "hundreds of thousands of votes",insisting that the certified election results were wrong.He said that Raffensperger should 'reevaluate" the election results,citing a variety of different conspiracy theories regarding voting in the state.Raffensperger,in response,answered that the election results in that state were CORRECT AND LEGITIMATE,and that trump 'had got his data wrong".During his attempts to pressure Raffensperger into CHANGING the election results,trump said, "I just want to find 11,780 votes",the minimum number needed to overcome Biden's advantage in Georgia.trump also tried to intimidate Raffensperger,hinting that Raffensperger and his attorney could face a possible criminal investigation.trump said,"You know,that's a criminal offense.And you know,you can't let that happen.That's a big risk to you."
He wasn't looking to "find more votes after an investigation or recount",he was telling someone to find the exact number of votes to change who wins the election,that's got nothing to do with a recount or investigation.If your looking for fraud you say "Check on the results and see if there was any wrongdoing,and if there was let us know how many votes we're talking about",not "I need you to find 11,780 votes,so then I can win the election".
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Finding more votes after an investigation or recount isn’t voter fraud
Ya that's true,unfortunately for your story and your completely bullsh*t defense of him,that ain't what happened.
On Jan. 2nd 2021,trump held a 1 hour phone call with Raffensperger.During the phone call,trump maintained falsely that he had won Georgia by "hundreds of thousands of votes",insisting that the certified election results were wrong.He said that Raffensperger should 'reevaluate" the election results,citing a variety of different conspiracy theories regarding voting in the state.Raffensperger,in response,answered that the election results in that state were CORRECT AND LEGITIMATE,and that trump 'had got his data wrong".During his attempts to pressure Raffensperger into CHANGING the election results,trump said, "I just want to find 11,780 votes",the minimum number needed to overcome Biden's advantage in Georgia.trump also tried to intimidate Raffensperger,hinting that Raffensperger and his attorney could face a possible criminal investigation.trump said,"You know,that's a criminal offense.And you know,you can't let that happen.That's a big risk to you."
He wasn't looking to "find more votes after an investigation or recount",he was telling someone to find the exact number of votes to change who wins the election,that's got nothing to do with a recount or investigation.If your looking for fraud you say "Check on the results and see if there was any wrongdoing,and if there was let us know how many votes we're talking about",not "I need you to find 11,780 votes,so then I can win the election".
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Quote Originally Posted by JCtime27: Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered. MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it. So you try to murder a sitting Vice President. ? That's an act of treason. treason
This story only has legs in your mind...who is actively advocating the murder of Pence???
No, his punishment is that his political career is over. His wealthy friends in the corporate world will take care of him.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Quote Originally Posted by JCtime27: Because if mail in balloting led to voter fraud elsewhere, it proves the voter tabulations using the same model can be easily buggered. MSM's constant drumbeat was the lie, that this voter model was above reproach. So the media lied and folks like you bought it. So you try to murder a sitting Vice President. ? That's an act of treason. treason
This story only has legs in your mind...who is actively advocating the murder of Pence???
No, his punishment is that his political career is over. His wealthy friends in the corporate world will take care of him.
You are using comments taken out of context...just like the person who posted this video and used a title that was proven to be a lie in the body of the video itself.
"I know that everyone here will be marching over to the capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections."~Donald Trump (I see no problem with these words)
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You are using comments taken out of context...just like the person who posted this video and used a title that was proven to be a lie in the body of the video itself.
"I know that everyone here will be marching over to the capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections."~Donald Trump (I see no problem with these words)
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Finding more votes after an investigation or recount isn’t voter fraud
unfortunately for your story and your completely bullsh*t defense of him,that ain't what happened. On Jan. 2nd 2021,trump held a 1 hour phone call with Raffensperger.During the phone call,trump maintained falsely that he had won Georgia by "hundreds of thousands of votes",insisting that the certified election results were wrong.He said that Raffensperger should 'reevaluate" the election results,citing a variety of different conspiracy theories regarding voting in the state.Raffensperger,in response,answered that the election results in that state were CORRECT AND LEGITIMATE,and that trump 'had got his data wrong".During his attempts to pressure Raffensperger into CHANGING the election results,trump said, "I just want to find 11,780 votes",the minimum number needed to overcome Biden's advantage in Georgia.trump also tried to intimidate Raffensperger,hinting that Raffensperger and his attorney could face a possible criminal investigation.trump said,"You know,that's a criminal offense.And you know,you can't let that happen.That's a big risk to you." He wasn't looking to "find more votes after an investigation or recount",he was telling someone to find the exact number of votes to change who wins the election,that's got nothing to do with a recount or investigation.If your looking for fraud you say "Check on the results and see if there was any wrongdoing,and if there was let us know how many votes we're talking about",not "I need you to find 11,780 votes,so then I can win the election".
That is what happened
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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Finding more votes after an investigation or recount isn’t voter fraud
unfortunately for your story and your completely bullsh*t defense of him,that ain't what happened. On Jan. 2nd 2021,trump held a 1 hour phone call with Raffensperger.During the phone call,trump maintained falsely that he had won Georgia by "hundreds of thousands of votes",insisting that the certified election results were wrong.He said that Raffensperger should 'reevaluate" the election results,citing a variety of different conspiracy theories regarding voting in the state.Raffensperger,in response,answered that the election results in that state were CORRECT AND LEGITIMATE,and that trump 'had got his data wrong".During his attempts to pressure Raffensperger into CHANGING the election results,trump said, "I just want to find 11,780 votes",the minimum number needed to overcome Biden's advantage in Georgia.trump also tried to intimidate Raffensperger,hinting that Raffensperger and his attorney could face a possible criminal investigation.trump said,"You know,that's a criminal offense.And you know,you can't let that happen.That's a big risk to you." He wasn't looking to "find more votes after an investigation or recount",he was telling someone to find the exact number of votes to change who wins the election,that's got nothing to do with a recount or investigation.If your looking for fraud you say "Check on the results and see if there was any wrongdoing,and if there was let us know how many votes we're talking about",not "I need you to find 11,780 votes,so then I can win the election".
CARROLL, Iowa — Former Vice President Mike Pence will join Rep. Randy Feenstra in Carroll on Saturday for Iowa’s 4th District Convention.
Feenstra said he and Pence will serve breakfast to convention delegates from 9:30 a.m. to 10 a.m., with the convention starting at 10 a.m. at Carroll High School.
Congressman Randy Feenstra has been a champion for Iowa, his district, and the conservative movement,” Pence said in a news release. “I look forward to joining Randy and meeting Republican delegates in the 4th District to discuss our shared conservative values and vision for Iowa’s future.”
Pence endorsed Feenstra’s reelection campaign at Feenstra’s Family Picnic in Sioux Center last year.
Pence will also speak at the Story County Republican Party's annual Lincoln Highway dinner on Saturday. That event is at the Ames Golf and Country Club at 6 p.m. Tickets are $75.
CARROLL, Iowa — Former Vice President Mike Pence will join Rep. Randy Feenstra in Carroll on Saturday for Iowa’s 4th District Convention.
Feenstra said he and Pence will serve breakfast to convention delegates from 9:30 a.m. to 10 a.m., with the convention starting at 10 a.m. at Carroll High School.
Congressman Randy Feenstra has been a champion for Iowa, his district, and the conservative movement,” Pence said in a news release. “I look forward to joining Randy and meeting Republican delegates in the 4th District to discuss our shared conservative values and vision for Iowa’s future.”
Pence endorsed Feenstra’s reelection campaign at Feenstra’s Family Picnic in Sioux Center last year.
Pence will also speak at the Story County Republican Party's annual Lincoln Highway dinner on Saturday. That event is at the Ames Golf and Country Club at 6 p.m. Tickets are $75.
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