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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Today would be a better day to find out exactly what evidence James Comey and his FBI had to open the original probe of Donald Trump and his campaign,, in the summer of 2016..........Now, since the Mueller report is concluded we need a criminal investigation into the heads of the FBI, at that time and what role the Obama administration and his Lynch led DOJ played into that probe..

A much more appropriate question for today... 

Taxes? He was elected and in his 3rd year of being POTUS, unbelievable.
 
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Q.)   How many Russians does it take to make Hillary Clinton lose an election?

A.)  None..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Q.)   How many Russians does it take to make Hillary Clinton lose an election?A.)  None..

It only takes one Hillary. As i've always said, Hillary didn't lose because of russians. She lost because of poor campaigning and because she is generally unlikable.

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I agree with your points, I just wish he'd tone it down a little, he doesn't need to respond to everything, it's not a good look. John McCain is dead, leave him there. Everyone knows the many questionable things that occurred in his life, leave him be Trump doesn't need to say anything about it or him. Let the music do the talking, and it's loud and clear that we're in the best position we've been in the entire century.
I like that he stands up for Americans and fights the morons when necessary.

You are right--and I agree with you.  That is not who he is though.  When the re-election comes up, two things are going to be out front:  the wall (lack of building one), healthcare (lack of repealing Obamacare).  And Trump can continue to point directly at McCain for the lack of repeal.  And he knows he might absolutely have to use that.  At least that is my thinking on it.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

I agree with your points, I just wish he'd tone it down a little, he doesn't need to respond to everything, it's not a good look. John McCain is dead, leave him there. Everyone knows the many questionable things that occurred in his life, leave him be Trump doesn't need to say anything about it or him. Let the music do the talking, and it's loud and clear that we're in the best position we've been in the entire century.I like that he stands up for Americans and fights the morons when necessary.
You are right--and I agree with you.  That is not who he is though.  When the re-election comes up, two things are going to be out front:  the wall (lack of building one), healthcare (lack of repealing Obamacare).  And Trump can continue to point directly at McCain for the lack of repeal.  And he knows he might absolutely have to use that.  At least that is my thinking on it.

Yeah, but repealing without a replacement, while calling it "Repeal and Replace" isn't the best look. Obamacare is flawed but atleast it's something. Call me crazy, but in the greatest country in the free world, I believe everyone deserves access to healthcare. True, it means that it cost more for me so that it can subsidize someone less well off than me, but it is what it is. I'm not a selfish prick. That's why I tip so well. Help out those less fortunate 

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Do you know anyone that's ever been denied healthcare? I don't. You more or less can't be refused. If you can't pay, they can't take your house, car or anything else essential to earning a living, you pay the bill $10 a month at a time if necessary. 

I don't believe it was necessary to have the fed more or less destroy the healthcare system with 0Carer and now another attempt with the newest dream of single payer which will finish off healthcare in this country as you know it. Think DMV 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

Do you know anyone that's ever been denied healthcare? I don't. You more or less can't be refused. If you can't pay, they can't take your house, car or anything else essential to earning a living, you pay the bill $10 a month at a time if necessary. I don't believe it was necessary to have the fed more or less destroy the healthcare system with 0Carer and now another attempt with the newest dream of single payer which will finish off healthcare in this country as you know it. Think DMV

Yes, but OCare allows people to actually buy affordable health insurance. Not being denied healthcare and being able to go see a doctor when you need to, being able to afford a prescription is too different things.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Today would be a better day to find out exactly what evidence James Comey and his FBI had to open the original probe of Donald Trump and his campaign,, in the summer of 2016..........Now, since the Mueller report is concluded we need a criminal investigation into the heads of the FBI, at that time and what role the Obama administration and his Lynch led DOJ played into that probe..

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A much more appropriate question for today... 

Taxes? He was elected and in his 3rd year of being POTUS, unbelievable.

Sen. Rand Paul today called on Justice to investigate the Obama aides who forced the false claims into public.

“Time to investigate the Obama officials who concocted and spread the Russian conspiracy hoax!”
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Today would be a better day to find out exactly what evidence James Comey and his FBI had to open the original probe of Donald Trump and his campaign,, in the summer of 2016..........Now, since the Mueller report is concluded we need a criminal investigation into the heads of the FBI, at that time and what role the Obama administration and his Lynch led DOJ played into that probe..
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A much more appropriate question for today... Taxes? He was elected and in his 3rd year of being POTUS, unbelievable.
Sen. Rand Paul today called on Justice to investigate the Obama aides who forced the false claims into public. “Time to investigate the Obama officials who concocted and spread the Russian conspiracy hoax!”

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Trump now says the leader of "17 angry Democrats", whom he sought to fire accusing him of having conflicts of interests, acted honorably. 

He's such a great judge of character.

 
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Yeah, but repealing without a replacement, while calling it "Repeal and Replace" isn't the best look. Obamacare is flawed but atleast it's something. Call me crazy, but in the greatest country in the free world, I believe everyone deserves access to healthcare. True, it means that it cost more for me so that it can subsidize someone less well off than me, but it is what it is. I'm not a selfish prick. That's why I tip so well. Help out those less fortunate 

It is nice and kind to say that.  But I don’t think it should be necessary to even have a replacement set up for many reasons. Some are explained in this article:

https://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2017/01/12/no-not-need-replace-obamacare/


We don’t need anything else. For many, many, many years healthcare was a function of a relationship between a provider and the patient. It was not until government got involved that prices began to skyrocket. This is an indisputable fact – that anywhere government sticks it’s nose, services become more expensive.


Replacing Obamacare capitulates to the idea that government has to have a place in every aspect of our lives. Healthcare is something we can manage on our own if we could be free to pursue competitive and personal options. Private charities have always been available to help needy families with their health needs. How many more of those would we have if more Americans had more of their own earned income in their pockets?


Obamacare just needs to be repealed. Regardless of party loyalties or ideologies it was never a good bill in the first place. It hadn’t even been read by the people who passed it, and it received not one vote from the opposing party. Not…one. Those who feel anger at the possibility of it’s repeal should really direct it toward their Democrat representatives who went ahead with a vote knowing they had no bi-partisan support. They set their own table. Don’t be mad at the guest who didn’t come to the party.


If anything needs to happen it’s more repeal. We shouldn’t be stopping at Obamacare. We should repeal the horrendous reforms that brought us HMOs and allowed for insurance monopolies. We should be encouraging an open market that can cross state lines and spur competition which always brings lower prices and better products.

 
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I agree but it will never happen unless you, at very least, pass some regulations to prevent insurance companies from running amuck and charging whatever they want. So there's still some level of government involvement necessary. All I know is there are a lot of people who were never able to afford insurance who have been able to under Obamacare. That's not a bad thing. Like I said, it's extremely flawed, but I agree with it. The industry itself needs a massive overhaul but it'll never happen. The real problem is the outlandish cost of the healthcare itself.

What don't you like about HMO's?

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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

I agree but it will never happen unless you, at very least, pass some regulations to prevent insurance companies from running amuck and charging whatever they want. So there's still some level of government involvement necessary. All I know is there are a lot of people who were never able to afford insurance who have been able to under Obamacare. That's not a bad thing. Like I said, it's extremely flawed, but I agree with it. The industry itself needs a massive overhaul but it'll never happen. The real problem is the outlandish cost of the healthcare itself.

What don't you like about HMO's?


Sometimes it really is best to remove govt and regulations from things.  But and large the VA is an example of govt healthcare.  A lot of people are NOT insured under Obamacare.  Look at a chart of that sometime.  Sure some govt accountability can be there for the bad things; but they don’t need to run healthcare — at all!
HMOs were barely good in principle.  But the people that do not like the free market fail to realize even with HMOs the free market tends to rise.   For example, you get paid regardless of whether you provide actual healthcare. So the incentive tends to disappear.  You also do not always get the best health care.  For example:


People never ask what would happen if the insurance companies were Removed altogether.   Why should there be someone that you have to pay for something you never use.  How does that affect costs. We did not always have insurance companies.  A lot of variables go into the healthcare dynamic. And a lot of them are lagging factors.  Obamacare is a big one.  We are slowly seeing the results of it.  
 
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Unanimous house vote to release the report. McConnell blocks the vote in the Senate.  ????? 

 
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Unanimous house vote to release the report. McConnell blocks the vote in the Senate.  ????? 


Attorney General Barr is going through the Mueller's report removing grand jury and classified information and planning on releasing it next month...
 
 
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I do not think a wall is a complete necessity yet.  I say completely enforce the laws.  Make sanctuary cities illegal.  Make it a huge fine to hire illegals. Second time make it serious prison time.  If nobody is hiring illegals they will go home.  We have seen that before with the anticipation of this being enforced.  Do away with anchor babies. This was obviously not the intent.  And follow Ike’s formula if necessary.  If absolutely needed — sure let Mexico indirectly pay for it if needed. Through border adjustment or having a fee added on for money being sent from here to there. Etc. Etc. 

I agree! Let’s do it Trump ! Also when your at do something about the Orthodox Jewish dilemma .....See Lakewood Nj and surrounding communities!

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