Obama ranked #10 BEST President!! ......trump ranked #41 out of 44

[Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2] Never seen him engage in a civil discussion.

and 99% of your posts in this forum are copied and pasted so who's really the one engaging in a civil discussion? You spew crap all day and have 0 thoughts of your own. You should go back and read your posts that are unoriginal. You try to get attention from shit that isn't your own. How about you start posting YOUR OWN IDEAS instead of propaganda against the right? Then your cronies copy your propaganda and spam posts with more unoriginal nonsense.

[Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by dutchsoccercool: BigGame90 wrote:  Just like Obama set the health care fines to drastically increase when he left office, by design to make the next Republican pres look bad.         Dude, that is the dumbest statement I've seen on this board....

The facts are, in 2017 prices drastically increased by 15-25% which was 3 times more than the increases of the previous years. That only hurts the people that could not afford health care and makes it much more worse. So yes, Obama had the premiums drastically increase once he left office. If you weren't paying attention back then, it takes 5 minutes to do quick research which is what you seem to lack because all you know is copy and paste. You'd make a good reporter in today's times because nothing you post is original.

i agree with u . unfortunately that is consistent with most the trolls here

@KellyM_1964

 Kelly, was my statement wrong? Did health care prem. increase by 3x over the previous years? Or did I make that up? Go ahead and take 10 minutes out of your day instead of reposting mile long posts with a handshake and read up on my statements. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. Just show me where I went wrong. I'll wait.

     well said  

From a CNBC article....HealthPocket also found that that average premiums, or monthly payments, for bronze plans nationwide will increase 21 percent next year for people who earn too much to qualify for Obamacare subsidies. A 40-year-old unsubsidized bronze plan customer would pay $350.23 each month for their health coverage, compared to $289.88 per month this year.

Premiums of all silver plans are rising by an average of 17 percent nationwide. A 40-year-old person enrolled in a silver plan who wasn’t eligible for financial aid would pay an average of $410.73 per month for insurance, compared to $351.02 this year.

The analysis come two days after the Obama administration revealed that the premiums for so-called “benchmark” silver plans are set to rise in 2017 by an average of 25 percent next year in 39 states served by the federal insurance exchange HealthCare.gov. That increase, which will affect unsubsidized customers, is more than triple the average price hikes seen for plans in 2016.

HealthPocket found that gold plans will see their premiums rise by an average of 22 percent. Nationally, the average 40-year-old enrolled in a gold plan would pay, before subsidies, $522.45 per month, compared to an average of $428.51 this year for the same type of plan.

For platinum plans, premiums are rising by an average of 15 percent in 2017.

“With respect to 2017, it is immediately evident that the market conditions facing the unsubsidized are getting considerably worse,” HealthPocket’s report said. “The percentage increase for each category of Obamacare nationwide is in the double-digits.”

Deductibles among bronze and silver plans, the plans most likely to be purchased by people without subsidies, are still considerably beyond what the average family has saved for medical bills,” the report said.

Why didn't Obama have the rates sky rocket while he was in office? Why did he set up the plans to drastically increase the year he left office?!

Que Kelly coming in re-posting a re-post of the same re-post to say "good point"

what i argue with is why the turd wasnt ranked dead last

impeached twice             responsible for 606,000 dead americans           first jerk to refuse the peaceful transfer of power      incites a mob riot to stop the legal certification for the new president

Well he certainly should be last, I agree.

Meanwhile Obama absolutely deserves 10th spot all-time (31 spots HIGHER than adolf trump)

I wonder why Fubah 2 has a avatar of John Wayne who was a CONSERVATIVE, yet Fubah 2 takes the Liberal stand? 

I think either it's irony or maybe he just really likea John Wayne movies. He's younger than my dad but he's still somewhat in that age group when Westerns were king to a little boy.

@Daddy_Freddie

 Another Repub that needs things explained to him.

John Wayne worked in the creative arts....maybe he was conservative in his politics, and yes Fubah expresses views one might consider liberal...so what?

It's ART!!!!

Why is it necessary to agree politically to enjoy someone's art.

Yes, I'm a liberal....I couldn't disagree more with Ted Nugent politically, but Stranglehold live absolutely ROCKS! I'm not even a big fan of his music...I really only like Stranglehold.

As an adult, I'm able to have both thoughts: Ted's political views are out of touch imo....HOWEVER, I can also give respect to a song that ABSOLUTELY ROCKS!

I'm disgusted by what Kevin Spacey did, but I love his work in American Beauty and L.A. Confidential.

I disagree with Jon Voigt politically...but, he's a badass actor.

Elton John is one of my all-time favorite artists....he's liberal, are there not millions of conservatives who enjoy his music?

I like Charlton Heston movies, and thought that he was waaaaay out there on guns.

And btw...just to have full disclosure, I enjoy much of Michael Moore's work, but I thought he was mean to Charlton Heston, even while I thought Charlton hurt our country with his lax views on guns.

The whole point is it's PERFECTLY understandable that someone with liberal views can admire John Wayne.

I also think it illustrates a big problem with Repubs...There were times when Bob Dole and Ted Kennedy were friends and went to dinner. That's but one example of bi-partisan friendship...they disagreed on how to get things done, but those types of relationships led to getting things done for the American people. 

The Repubs think: there's two sides and you're on one or the other. If you're a Democrat with a good idea, I won't work with you EVEN if it's a REALLY good idea!

That thought is the same as: How could a liberal like John Wayne.

I guess what I'm saying is: Mitch McConnell should start listening to Elton John again!

I too enjoy most of Michael Moore's groundbreaking expose work.

he should b  34 spots higher than rump

i think future surveys will rate him lower

siena survey had him last

i think clinton should b a couple rungs higher

i also think bush jr and nixon should flip spots .  2 wars financed on credit and financial collapse seem to me worse than nixon

OK I can agree with that, sure.

Still it's interesting to note that the WORST 4 presidents of our lifetime are all republicans

From the WH press briefing:

   “The president believes that in our history, there are many dark moments,
    and there is not just slavery and racism in our history,
    there is systemic racism that is still impacting society today.
   “And he believes, as I believe, as a parent of children,
    that kids should learn about our history.”

Psaki went on to explain that Biden believes children should learn about
both the “good” and “challenging” moments in the nation’s history,
even now that critical race theory has become “politically charged.”

Critical race theory (CRT) — is an academic tool used to examine
systemic racism in America, with a specific focus on how U.S. laws
intersect with issues of race in the country.

Republican officials have been attempting to ban the theory from curricula

  *In a previous thread a couple of months ago I detailed PROOF
   there is systemic RACISM in the real estate housing industry.

our duly elected president is right about that .  our history must b taught

when i went through grade school in the 60s i dont recall our teachers explaining both points of view of white european settlement and advancement into indigenous homelands . this too was a dark corner of our history . i have no idea if the good-bad-ugly side of those years is being explained in todays classrooms but it should b if it isnt . the same with our racist-slavery past

History is told by the writer and the teacher.

In today's world, that could be a scary thought. 

The whole immigrant history of Ellis Island should also be taught so kids (and many adults) can learn from whence the country has come.

I had the same experience, KellyM.

As I see it, the overwhelming majority of Americans who DON'T want the history of our racist past against either Blacks, native, or Asians, discussed fairly in schools, are the racists themselves.   I guess it makes THEM feel "uncomfortable" to hear the truth or know that the truth is being may be taught to children.   So, RACISTS like MTG, label the truth as "evil" and therefore uncomfortable truths must be banned from education!

Prime-time Fox News host Sean Hannity,
who fell behind Carlson in the ratings race during the Trump years,
said on a May 2021 episode of “Hannity” that
he planned to get a COVID-19 shot.

“I do believe in science, and I believe in vaccinations,” he said.

i agree with that

i suspect it is mentioned in civics or history classes at the secondary level in many schools but certainly not all

how far away is the trump party from book burning too ?