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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 1:05 AM ET #3151

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

      Disgraceful and despicable, but many Trumpsters will call this the "fake" news.

    because dumpsters live in a bubble . this has been documented .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

      Disgraceful and despicable, but many Trumpsters will call this the "fake" news.

    because dumpsters live in a bubble . this has been documented .

     
    Midnight1
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 1:09 PM ET #3152

    "The only thing Louis DeJoy should be delivering is his resignation" so says Rep.Ayanna Pressley.

    an_roll_laugh

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    "The only thing Louis DeJoy should be delivering is his resignation" so says Rep.Ayanna Pressley.

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 4:24 PM ET #3153

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    "The only thing Louis DeJoy should be delivering is his resignation" so says Rep.Ayanna Pressley.

     

    Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, of Peurto Rican descent
    Questions Kimberly Guilfoyle's Knowledge of Her Own Heritage
    After She Said she's a 'First-Generation American' at RNC


    "The woman the GOP picked as their 'proud' Latina to tout 'immigrant experience'
    didn't seem to know that Puerto Rico is already part of the United States," the
    congresswoman from New York tweeted. "It's quite on message, bc it reflects
    their belief that Latinos aren't real citizens, even when we are Native descendents"
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rgtbn2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    "The only thing Louis DeJoy should be delivering is his resignation" so says Rep.Ayanna Pressley.

     

    Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, of Peurto Rican descent
    Questions Kimberly Guilfoyle's Knowledge of Her Own Heritage
    After She Said she's a 'First-Generation American' at RNC


    "The woman the GOP picked as their 'proud' Latina to tout 'immigrant experience'
    didn't seem to know that Puerto Rico is already part of the United States," the
    congresswoman from New York tweeted. "It's quite on message, bc it reflects
    their belief that Latinos aren't real citizens, even when we are Native descendents"
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rgtbn2

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 5:46 PM ET #3154

    Unbelievable ignorance about her own heritage ...

     

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    Unbelievable ignorance about her own heritage ...

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 5:51 PM ET #3155

    Ghislaine Maxwell's request to move into "the general prison population" & her hopes of getting shanked while in there were dismissed by a judge who decided she will stay in isolation until her trial.

    I get the impression she hasn't heard the word "No" very often in her life. 

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    Ghislaine Maxwell's request to move into "the general prison population" & her hopes of getting shanked while in there were dismissed by a judge who decided she will stay in isolation until her trial.

    I get the impression she hasn't heard the word "No" very often in her life. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 5:58 PM ET #3156

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: "The only thing Louis DeJoy should be delivering is his resignation" so says Rep.Ayanna Pressley.   Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, of Peurto Rican descentQuestions Kimberly Guilfoyle's Knowledge of Her Own Heritage After She Said she's a 'First-Generation American' at RNC "The woman the GOP picked as their 'proud' Latina to tout 'immigrant experience' didn't seem to know that Puerto Rico is already part of the United States," the congresswoman from New York tweeted. "It's quite on message, bc it reflects their belief that Latinos aren't real citizens, even when we are Native descendents" Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rgtbn2

    Her father was born in Ireland. She is a first generation American. And Puerto Ricans aren't even full Ameeicans. For example, they can't vote. I expect her to deatroy AOC on this comment. I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: "The only thing Louis DeJoy should be delivering is his resignation" so says Rep.Ayanna Pressley.   Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, of Peurto Rican descentQuestions Kimberly Guilfoyle's Knowledge of Her Own Heritage After She Said she's a 'First-Generation American' at RNC "The woman the GOP picked as their 'proud' Latina to tout 'immigrant experience' didn't seem to know that Puerto Rico is already part of the United States," the congresswoman from New York tweeted. "It's quite on message, bc it reflects their belief that Latinos aren't real citizens, even when we are Native descendents" Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rgtbn2

    Her father was born in Ireland. She is a first generation American. And Puerto Ricans aren't even full Ameeicans. For example, they can't vote. I expect her to deatroy AOC on this comment. I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 6:10 PM ET #3157

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rgtbn2

     

    Her father was born in Ireland.

    She is a first generation American.

    Puerto Ricans aren't even full Ameeicans

    For example, they can't vote. I expect her to deatroy AOC on this comment. I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead

     

    cool You are kidding , right ?! new_moj_wink You fun prankster you. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rgtbn2

     

    Her father was born in Ireland.

    She is a first generation American.

    Puerto Ricans aren't even full Ameeicans

    For example, they can't vote. I expect her to deatroy AOC on this comment. I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead

     

    cool You are kidding , right ?! new_moj_wink You fun prankster you. 

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 6:31 PM ET #3158

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rgtbn2   Her father was born in Ireland. She is a first generation American. Puerto Ricans aren't even full Ameeicans For example, they can't vote. I expect her to deatroy AOC on this comment. I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead   You are kidding , right ?!  You fun prankster you.

    Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. The are not a "state" in the United States of America. They lack congressional representation. They don't vote in our elections. They don't have full constitutional protection. This can't be news to you. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum. 

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Source: https://tinyurl.com/y4rgtbn2   Her father was born in Ireland. She is a first generation American. Puerto Ricans aren't even full Ameeicans For example, they can't vote. I expect her to deatroy AOC on this comment. I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead   You are kidding , right ?!  You fun prankster you.

    Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. The are not a "state" in the United States of America. They lack congressional representation. They don't vote in our elections. They don't have full constitutional protection. This can't be news to you. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 6:45 PM ET #3159

    Alaska Attorney General Kevin Clarkson resigned Tuesday following the publication of an Anchorage Daily News and ProPublica investigation showing he sent hundreds of text messages to a younger state employee that Clarkson acknowledged had made her uncomfortable.

    Records obtained by the newsrooms found Clarkson sent at least 558 text messages between March 5 and March 31 to a woman whose job required she sometimes interact with the attorney general. In at least 18 messages he invited the woman to come to his home.

    I guess we know which head he was using when he sent these messages.

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    Alaska Attorney General Kevin Clarkson resigned Tuesday following the publication of an Anchorage Daily News and ProPublica investigation showing he sent hundreds of text messages to a younger state employee that Clarkson acknowledged had made her uncomfortable.

    Records obtained by the newsrooms found Clarkson sent at least 558 text messages between March 5 and March 31 to a woman whose job required she sometimes interact with the attorney general. In at least 18 messages he invited the woman to come to his home.

    I guess we know which head he was using when he sent these messages.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 6:57 PM ET #3160

    Just received HOAX my next book from Amazon to read.

    I'll finish this before RAGE and Disloyal show up in the mail.

    an_clap

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    Just received HOAX my next book from Amazon to read.

    I'll finish this before RAGE and Disloyal show up in the mail.

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 7:10 PM ET #3161

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum.


    No, I was trying to throw you a rope so you could save face.

    By now you should KNOW I post with researched FACTS
    with links and will call out those posting obvious falsehoods.

    Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.
    If you are by definition a US citizen
    then by definition you can't be an immigrant.

     

    Sources:
    https://tinyurl.com/yyk3z88m
    https://tinyurl.com/yy8xpthx

    "Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898
    and    were given citizenship in 1917

    and granted 'birthright U.S. citizenship'
    through the National Act of the 1940s.

    "After 1940, Congress declared that anyone born in Puerto Rico
    is born in the United States" said Charles Venator-Santiago,
    a political science professor at the University of Connecticut and
    coordinator of the Puerto Rico Citizenship Archives Project, told NBC News.

    "Could her mom count as an immigrant,
    even though she is a born U.S. citizen ?
    In that case, no," said Carlos Vargas-Ramos,
    a political scientist and the director of public policy
    at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies. "


    =================================


    Kimberly Guilfoyle’s RNC Claim
    That Her Puerto Rican Mom
    Is An Immigrant Is, Uh, Wrong

    Huffington Post


    In her Republican National Convention speech, Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend
    apparently overlooked the fact that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

    Though Guilfoyle’s father was born in Ireland, the assertion that her mother
    was also an immigrant   left many people scratching their heads —
    especially since Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and have been since 1917,
    according to the Library of Congress.

    Guilfoyle’s ignorant statement led many people to fact-check her on Twitter.
    To read through their responses, just scroll down:
    https://tinyurl.com/y3po7ht7

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum.


    No, I was trying to throw you a rope so you could save face.

    By now you should KNOW I post with researched FACTS
    with links and will call out those posting obvious falsehoods.

    Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.
    If you are by definition a US citizen
    then by definition you can't be an immigrant.

     

    Sources:
    https://tinyurl.com/yyk3z88m
    https://tinyurl.com/yy8xpthx

    "Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898
    and    were given citizenship in 1917

    and granted 'birthright U.S. citizenship'
    through the National Act of the 1940s.

    "After 1940, Congress declared that anyone born in Puerto Rico
    is born in the United States" said Charles Venator-Santiago,
    a political science professor at the University of Connecticut and
    coordinator of the Puerto Rico Citizenship Archives Project, told NBC News.

    "Could her mom count as an immigrant,
    even though she is a born U.S. citizen ?
    In that case, no," said Carlos Vargas-Ramos,
    a political scientist and the director of public policy
    at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies. "


    =================================


    Kimberly Guilfoyle’s RNC Claim
    That Her Puerto Rican Mom
    Is An Immigrant Is, Uh, Wrong

    Huffington Post


    In her Republican National Convention speech, Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend
    apparently overlooked the fact that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

    Though Guilfoyle’s father was born in Ireland, the assertion that her mother
    was also an immigrant   left many people scratching their heads —
    especially since Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and have been since 1917,
    according to the Library of Congress.

    Guilfoyle’s ignorant statement led many people to fact-check her on Twitter.
    To read through their responses, just scroll down:
    https://tinyurl.com/y3po7ht7

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 8:29 PM ET #3162

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Unbelievable ignorance about her own heritage ...

    have to agree .  twitter and facebook lit up to condemn her ignorance quiet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Unbelievable ignorance about her own heritage ...

    have to agree .  twitter and facebook lit up to condemn her ignorance quiet

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2020 - 8:29 PM ET #3163

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum. No, I was trying to throw you a rope so you could save face. By now you should KNOW I post with researched FACTS with links and will call out those posting obvious falsehoods. Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.If you are by definition a US citizen then by definition you can't be an immigrant.   Sources: https://tinyurl.com/yyk3z88mhttps://tinyurl.com/yy8xpthx "Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898 and    were given citizenship in 1917 and granted 'birthright U.S. citizenship' through the National Act of the 1940s. "After 1940, Congress declared that anyone born in Puerto Rico is born in the United States" said Charles Venator-Santiago, a political science professor at the University of Connecticut and coordinator of the Puerto Rico Citizenship Archives Project, told NBC News. "Could her mom count as an immigrant, even though she is a born U.S. citizen ? In that case, no," said Carlos Vargas-Ramos, a political scientist and the director of public policy at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies. " ================================= Kimberly Guilfoyle’s RNC Claim That Her Puerto Rican Mom Is An Immigrant Is, Uh, Wrong Huffington Post In her Republican National Convention speech, Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend apparently overlooked the fact that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. Though Guilfoyle’s father was born in Ireland, the assertion that her mother was also an immigrant   left many people scratching their heads — especially since Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and have been since 1917, according to the Library of Congress. Guilfoyle’s ignorant statement led many people to fact-check her on Twitter. To read through their responses, just scroll down:https://tinyurl.com/y3po7ht7

    I wonder how Puerto Rico will vote in the upcoming Presidential election? As I said before, Puerto Rico is a territory. Yes, part of America... but not quite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum. No, I was trying to throw you a rope so you could save face. By now you should KNOW I post with researched FACTS with links and will call out those posting obvious falsehoods. Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.If you are by definition a US citizen then by definition you can't be an immigrant.   Sources: https://tinyurl.com/yyk3z88mhttps://tinyurl.com/yy8xpthx "Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898 and    were given citizenship in 1917 and granted 'birthright U.S. citizenship' through the National Act of the 1940s. "After 1940, Congress declared that anyone born in Puerto Rico is born in the United States" said Charles Venator-Santiago, a political science professor at the University of Connecticut and coordinator of the Puerto Rico Citizenship Archives Project, told NBC News. "Could her mom count as an immigrant, even though she is a born U.S. citizen ? In that case, no," said Carlos Vargas-Ramos, a political scientist and the director of public policy at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies. " ================================= Kimberly Guilfoyle’s RNC Claim That Her Puerto Rican Mom Is An Immigrant Is, Uh, Wrong Huffington Post In her Republican National Convention speech, Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend apparently overlooked the fact that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. Though Guilfoyle’s father was born in Ireland, the assertion that her mother was also an immigrant   left many people scratching their heads — especially since Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and have been since 1917, according to the Library of Congress. Guilfoyle’s ignorant statement led many people to fact-check her on Twitter. To read through their responses, just scroll down:https://tinyurl.com/y3po7ht7

    I wonder how Puerto Rico will vote in the upcoming Presidential election? As I said before, Puerto Rico is a territory. Yes, part of America... but not quite.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum. No, I was trying to throw you a rope so you could save face. By now you should KNOW I post with researched FACTS with links and will call out those posting obvious falsehoods. Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.If you are by definition a US citizen then by definition you can't be an immigrant.   Sources: https://tinyurl.com/yyk3z88mhttps://tinyurl.com/yy8xpthx "Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898 and    were given citizenship in 1917 and granted 'birthright U.S. citizenship' through the National Act of the 1940s. "After 1940, Congress declared that anyone born in Puerto Rico is born in the United States" said Charles Venator-Santiago, a political science professor at the University of Connecticut and coordinator of the Puerto Rico Citizenship Archives Project, told NBC News. "Could her mom count as an immigrant, even though she is a born U.S. citizen ? In that case, no," said Carlos Vargas-Ramos, a political scientist and the director of public policy at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies. " ================================= Kimberly Guilfoyle’s RNC Claim That Her Puerto Rican Mom Is An Immigrant Is, Uh, Wrong Huffington Post In her Republican National Convention speech, Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend apparently overlooked the fact that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. Though Guilfoyle’s father was born in Ireland, the assertion that her mother was also an immigrant   left many people scratching their heads — especially since Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and have been since 1917, according to the Library of Congress. Guilfoyle’s ignorant statement led many people to fact-check her on Twitter. To read through their responses, just scroll down:https://tinyurl.com/y3po7ht7 I wonder how Puerto Rico will vote in the upcoming Presidential election? As I said before, Puerto Rico is a territory. Yes, part of America... but not quite.

    how they vote or not is totally irrelevant . they r  American citizens  not immigrants .

    women couldnt vote before 1920 but they were citizens before .

    blacks couldnt vote (realistically) until the voting rights act of 1965 but they too were American citizens .

    incarcerated inmates r citizens today too but they cant vote either (except maine and vermont)

    Puerto Ricans r American citizens even if they cant vote in prseidential elections          yet!

    like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant

    which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said

    and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum. No, I was trying to throw you a rope so you could save face. By now you should KNOW I post with researched FACTS with links and will call out those posting obvious falsehoods. Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.If you are by definition a US citizen then by definition you can't be an immigrant.   Sources: https://tinyurl.com/yyk3z88mhttps://tinyurl.com/yy8xpthx "Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898 and    were given citizenship in 1917 and granted 'birthright U.S. citizenship' through the National Act of the 1940s. "After 1940, Congress declared that anyone born in Puerto Rico is born in the United States" said Charles Venator-Santiago, a political science professor at the University of Connecticut and coordinator of the Puerto Rico Citizenship Archives Project, told NBC News. "Could her mom count as an immigrant, even though she is a born U.S. citizen ? In that case, no," said Carlos Vargas-Ramos, a political scientist and the director of public policy at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies. " ================================= Kimberly Guilfoyle’s RNC Claim That Her Puerto Rican Mom Is An Immigrant Is, Uh, Wrong Huffington Post In her Republican National Convention speech, Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend apparently overlooked the fact that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. Though Guilfoyle’s father was born in Ireland, the assertion that her mother was also an immigrant   left many people scratching their heads — especially since Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and have been since 1917, according to the Library of Congress. Guilfoyle’s ignorant statement led many people to fact-check her on Twitter. To read through their responses, just scroll down:https://tinyurl.com/y3po7ht7 I wonder how Puerto Rico will vote in the upcoming Presidential election? As I said before, Puerto Rico is a territory. Yes, part of America... but not quite.

    how they vote or not is totally irrelevant . they r  American citizens  not immigrants .

    women couldnt vote before 1920 but they were citizens before .

    blacks couldnt vote (realistically) until the voting rights act of 1965 but they too were American citizens .

    incarcerated inmates r citizens today too but they cant vote either (except maine and vermont)

    Puerto Ricans r American citizens even if they cant vote in prseidential elections          yet!

    like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant

    which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said

    and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants

     
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    I fell in love with a Puerto Rican girl on the NYC subway years ago....but I digress.

    Puerto Ricans who fled the island to join family in central Florida will be ecstatic to vote for their 1st time.

    According to the Florida Secretary of State, there were about 107,600 newly registered Hispanic voters in 2019. A majority — 46 percent — were registered as NPA (No Political Affiliation). Thirty-three percent registered as Democrats, and 18% as Republicans.

    Both parties want to tell this new voting base how wonderful they are, garner their vote & then forget all about them. 

    That's one of the many reasons why politicians suck! 

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    I fell in love with a Puerto Rican girl on the NYC subway years ago....but I digress.

    Puerto Ricans who fled the island to join family in central Florida will be ecstatic to vote for their 1st time.

    According to the Florida Secretary of State, there were about 107,600 newly registered Hispanic voters in 2019. A majority — 46 percent — were registered as NPA (No Political Affiliation). Thirty-three percent registered as Democrats, and 18% as Republicans.

    Both parties want to tell this new voting base how wonderful they are, garner their vote & then forget all about them. 

    That's one of the many reasons why politicians suck! 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum. No, I was trying to throw you a rope so you could save face. By now you should KNOW I post with researched FACTS with links and will call out those posting obvious falsehoods. Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.If you are by definition a US citizen then by definition you can't be an immigrant.   Sources: https://tinyurl.com/yyk3z88mhttps://tinyurl.com/yy8xpthx "Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898 and    were given citizenship in 1917 and granted 'birthright U.S. citizenship' through the National Act of the 1940s. "After 1940, Congress declared that anyone born in Puerto Rico is born in the United States" said Charles Venator-Santiago, a political science professor at the University of Connecticut and coordinator of the Puerto Rico Citizenship Archives Project, told NBC News. "Could her mom count as an immigrant, even though she is a born U.S. citizen ? In that case, no," said Carlos Vargas-Ramos, a political scientist and the director of public policy at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies. " ================================= Kimberly Guilfoyle’s RNC Claim That Her Puerto Rican Mom Is An Immigrant Is, Uh, Wrong Huffington Post In her Republican National Convention speech, Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend apparently overlooked the fact that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. Though Guilfoyle’s father was born in Ireland, the assertion that her mother was also an immigrant   left many people scratching their heads — especially since Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and have been since 1917, according to the Library of Congress. Guilfoyle’s ignorant statement led many people to fact-check her on Twitter. To read through their responses, just scroll down:https://tinyurl.com/y3po7ht7 I wonder how Puerto Rico will vote in the upcoming Presidential election? As I said before, Puerto Rico is a territory. Yes, part of America... but not quite. how they vote or not is totally irrelevant . they r  American citizens  not immigrants . women couldnt vote before 1920 but they were citizens before . blacks couldnt vote (realistically) until the voting rights act of 1965 but they too were American citizens . incarcerated inmates r citizens today too but they cant vote either (except maine and vermont) Puerto Ricans r American citizens even if they cant vote in prseidential elections          yet! like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants

    Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Seriously? Puerto Rico is a territory. Essentially a colony. Was that question sarcasm? If it wasn't then you shouldn't be posting in a political forum. No, I was trying to throw you a rope so you could save face. By now you should KNOW I post with researched FACTS with links and will call out those posting obvious falsehoods. Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.If you are by definition a US citizen then by definition you can't be an immigrant.   Sources: https://tinyurl.com/yyk3z88mhttps://tinyurl.com/yy8xpthx "Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory since 1898 and    were given citizenship in 1917 and granted 'birthright U.S. citizenship' through the National Act of the 1940s. "After 1940, Congress declared that anyone born in Puerto Rico is born in the United States" said Charles Venator-Santiago, a political science professor at the University of Connecticut and coordinator of the Puerto Rico Citizenship Archives Project, told NBC News. "Could her mom count as an immigrant, even though she is a born U.S. citizen ? In that case, no," said Carlos Vargas-Ramos, a political scientist and the director of public policy at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies. " ================================= Kimberly Guilfoyle’s RNC Claim That Her Puerto Rican Mom Is An Immigrant Is, Uh, Wrong Huffington Post In her Republican National Convention speech, Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend apparently overlooked the fact that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. Though Guilfoyle’s father was born in Ireland, the assertion that her mother was also an immigrant   left many people scratching their heads — especially since Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and have been since 1917, according to the Library of Congress. Guilfoyle’s ignorant statement led many people to fact-check her on Twitter. To read through their responses, just scroll down:https://tinyurl.com/y3po7ht7 I wonder how Puerto Rico will vote in the upcoming Presidential election? As I said before, Puerto Rico is a territory. Yes, part of America... but not quite. how they vote or not is totally irrelevant . they r  American citizens  not immigrants . women couldnt vote before 1920 but they were citizens before . blacks couldnt vote (realistically) until the voting rights act of 1965 but they too were American citizens . incarcerated inmates r citizens today too but they cant vote either (except maine and vermont) Puerto Ricans r American citizens even if they cant vote in prseidential elections          yet! like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants

    Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I fell in love with a Puerto Rican girl on the NYC subway years ago....but I digress. Puerto Ricans who fled the island to join family in central Florida will be ecstatic to vote for their 1st time. According to the Florida Secretary of State, there were about 107,600 newly registered Hispanic voters in 2019. A majority — 46 percent — were registered as NPA (No Political Affiliation). Thirty-three percent registered as Democrats, and 18% as Republicans. Both parties want to tell this new voting base how wonderful they are, garner their vote & then forget all about them.  That's one of the many reasons why politicians suck!

    Kinda of like the way many (not all) conservatives show all kinds of concern for an unborn fetus the size of an eraser, but typically don't give a  ph**k  after they are actually born. Everyone pulls their own weight!

    That said, from what I've read, most Puerto Ricans (AMERICANS!!!) who left the island did so *because* of the hurricane devastation -- and they are still bummed at trump for disrespectful comments and hurling paper towels at them to solve their problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    I fell in love with a Puerto Rican girl on the NYC subway years ago....but I digress. Puerto Ricans who fled the island to join family in central Florida will be ecstatic to vote for their 1st time. According to the Florida Secretary of State, there were about 107,600 newly registered Hispanic voters in 2019. A majority — 46 percent — were registered as NPA (No Political Affiliation). Thirty-three percent registered as Democrats, and 18% as Republicans. Both parties want to tell this new voting base how wonderful they are, garner their vote & then forget all about them.  That's one of the many reasons why politicians suck!

    Kinda of like the way many (not all) conservatives show all kinds of concern for an unborn fetus the size of an eraser, but typically don't give a  ph**k  after they are actually born. Everyone pulls their own weight!

    That said, from what I've read, most Puerto Ricans (AMERICANS!!!) who left the island did so *because* of the hurricane devastation -- and they are still bummed at trump for disrespectful comments and hurling paper towels at them to solve their problems.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants

     

    Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual.

    Yes, factual.

    But as KellyM said, "it's irrelevant"  to the point.

    YOU incorrectly stated:  "She is a first generation American."

    ... and WRONGFULLY criticized Democrat AOC when it is SHE who is correct!

    [quote] "I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead "

     

    And btw, "it's citizens"      ... are OUR citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants

     

    Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual.

    Yes, factual.

    But as KellyM said, "it's irrelevant"  to the point.

    YOU incorrectly stated:  "She is a first generation American."

    ... and WRONGFULLY criticized Democrat AOC when it is SHE who is correct!

    [quote] "I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead "

     

    And btw, "it's citizens"      ... are OUR citizens.

     
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    As of last night, Webster has a new word to add in the dictionary....

    Guilfoyling is when you try to make a Braveheart style speech, but end up just scaring the horses.

     

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    As of last night, Webster has a new word to add in the dictionary....

    Guilfoyling is when you try to make a Braveheart style speech, but end up just scaring the horses.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    As of last night, Webster has a new word to add in the dictionary....

    Guilfoyling is when you try to make a Braveheart style speech, but end up just scaring the horses.

    Perhaps she got speech advice from Jeanine Pirro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    As of last night, Webster has a new word to add in the dictionary....

    Guilfoyling is when you try to make a Braveheart style speech, but end up just scaring the horses.

    Perhaps she got speech advice from Jeanine Pirro

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants   Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual. Yes, factual. But as KellyM said, "it's irrelevant"  to the point. YOU incorrectly stated:  "She is a first generation American." ... and WRONGFULLY criticized Democrat AOC when it is SHE who is correct! [quote] "I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead "   And btw, "it's citizens"      ... are OUR citizens.

    Her father was an immigrant, so she is a first generation American in that regard. That was my point. I then followed up by saying, to come from Puerto Rico, in what had to have been the 60's, would have felt like immigrating. Puerto Rico maintains a level of sovereignty. Their people aren't treated as full citizens, unless they take up residence in the states. Those were my points, which are all factual. I wasn't defending Kimberly Guifoyle, whom I detest almost as much as her boyfriend. And I wasn't arguing the fact that her mother was an immigrant. I said, "Her father is an immgrant. Was she was referring to him." Then I said, "Heck, even her mother wasn't a like a full American." I promise moving from Puerto Rico to California 50 or 60 years ago felt like immigration. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants   Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual. Yes, factual. But as KellyM said, "it's irrelevant"  to the point. YOU incorrectly stated:  "She is a first generation American." ... and WRONGFULLY criticized Democrat AOC when it is SHE who is correct! [quote] "I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead "   And btw, "it's citizens"      ... are OUR citizens.

    Her father was an immigrant, so she is a first generation American in that regard. That was my point. I then followed up by saying, to come from Puerto Rico, in what had to have been the 60's, would have felt like immigrating. Puerto Rico maintains a level of sovereignty. Their people aren't treated as full citizens, unless they take up residence in the states. Those were my points, which are all factual. I wasn't defending Kimberly Guifoyle, whom I detest almost as much as her boyfriend. And I wasn't arguing the fact that her mother was an immigrant. I said, "Her father is an immgrant. Was she was referring to him." Then I said, "Heck, even her mother wasn't a like a full American." I promise moving from Puerto Rico to California 50 or 60 years ago felt like immigration. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants   Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual. Yes, factual. But as KellyM said, "it's irrelevant"  to the point. YOU incorrectly stated:  "She is a first generation American." ... and WRONGFULLY criticized Democrat AOC when it is SHE who is correct! [quote] "I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead "   And btw, "it's citizens"      ... are OUR citizens. Her father was an immigrant, so she is a first generation American in that regard. That was my point.

    In that regard ???

    "Your honor, I am not a criminal!

    Yes, I maliciously murdered the school bus driver who was a trump-supporter...

    ...but I saved that school bus from careening off a cliff, so  in that regard  I am a hero/good-guy

    and therfore a non-criminal"

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants   Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual. Yes, factual. But as KellyM said, "it's irrelevant"  to the point. YOU incorrectly stated:  "She is a first generation American." ... and WRONGFULLY criticized Democrat AOC when it is SHE who is correct! [quote] "I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead "   And btw, "it's citizens"      ... are OUR citizens. Her father was an immigrant, so she is a first generation American in that regard. That was my point.

    In that regard ???

    "Your honor, I am not a criminal!

    Yes, I maliciously murdered the school bus driver who was a trump-supporter...

    ...but I saved that school bus from careening off a cliff, so  in that regard  I am a hero/good-guy

    and therfore a non-criminal"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants   Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual. Yes, factual. But as KellyM said, "it's irrelevant"  to the point. YOU incorrectly stated:  "She is a first generation American." ... and WRONGFULLY criticized Democrat AOC when it is SHE who is correct! [quote] "I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead "   And btw, "it's citizens"      ... are OUR citizens. Her father was an immigrant, so she is a first generation American in that regard. That was my point. In that regard ??? "Your honor, I am not a criminal! Yes, I maliciously murdered the school bus driver who was a trump-supporter... ...but I saved that school bus from careening off a cliff, so  in that regard  I am a hero/good-guy and therfore a non-criminal"

    Was her father not an immigrant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: like fubah2 said if u r an AMerican citizen by definition then u cant be an immigrant which means gillfoyle is a 2nd generation not first as she wrongly said and she should know better . in fact i think she does know but wants to help trump erase all the negatives about him and immigrants   Look, I never said they weren't citizens. I've been to Puerto Rico. What I said was, 1. Was she referring to her father, because he is an immigrant. I didn't watch, so I didn't have the context. And 2. While Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory, it's citizens don't have the same battery of rights and an American born in the states. This is all factual. Yes, factual. But as KellyM said, "it's irrelevant"  to the point. YOU incorrectly stated:  "She is a first generation American." ... and WRONGFULLY criticized Democrat AOC when it is SHE who is correct! [quote] "I've defended AOC in the past but maybe she really is an airhead "   And btw, "it's citizens"      ... are OUR citizens. Her father was an immigrant, so she is a first generation American in that regard. That was my point. In that regard ??? "Your honor, I am not a criminal! Yes, I maliciously murdered the school bus driver who was a trump-supporter... ...but I saved that school bus from careening off a cliff, so  in that regard  I am a hero/good-guy and therfore a non-criminal"

    Was her father not an immigrant?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2020 - 12:39 AM ET #3174

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Was her father not an immigrant?

    So??

    Was her mother NOT an American-born citizen???  That's the relevent point.

    There are TWO differing statements from our government about
    "first and second generation" status.....but the result is the same:
    Kimberly Guilfoyle is NOT first generation, as she claimed.

     

    Excerpt from U.S. Census bureau: READ CAREFULLY

    " The first generation  is composed of individuals who are foreign-born.
    The second generation refers to those with at least one foreign-born parent."
    = Guilfoyle is SECOND GENERATION
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/yxtkqtpf

     

    Corroborating that is this article: READ CAREFULLY

    According to the United States Census Bureau, first-generation immigrants
    are the first foreign-born family members to gain citizenship or
    permanent residency in the country.1

    According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary...first generation can refer to
    a person born in the U.S. to immigrant parents or a naturalized American citizen.
    (note the plural use of the word parents....so first gen does NOT apply to Guilfoyle)

    The U.S. government generally accepts the definition that
    the first member of a family to acquire citizenship or permanent resident 
    status qualifies as the family’s first generation.
    (that would be Guilfoyle's Mom...so regardless where her father was born,
    the first member of a family (her Mom) to acquire citizenship, *is* 1st generation,
    meaning her daughter Kimberly Guilfoyle *is* 2nd generation)
    = Guilfoyle is SECOND GENERATION
    Source:   https://tinyurl.com/y3seahdr

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Was her father not an immigrant?

    So??

    Was her mother NOT an American-born citizen???  That's the relevent point.

    There are TWO differing statements from our government about
    "first and second generation" status.....but the result is the same:
    Kimberly Guilfoyle is NOT first generation, as she claimed.

     

    Excerpt from U.S. Census bureau: READ CAREFULLY

    " The first generation  is composed of individuals who are foreign-born.
    The second generation refers to those with at least one foreign-born parent."
    = Guilfoyle is SECOND GENERATION
    Source: https://tinyurl.com/yxtkqtpf

     

    Corroborating that is this article: READ CAREFULLY

    According to the United States Census Bureau, first-generation immigrants
    are the first foreign-born family members to gain citizenship or
    permanent residency in the country.1

    According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary...first generation can refer to
    a person born in the U.S. to immigrant parents or a naturalized American citizen.
    (note the plural use of the word parents....so first gen does NOT apply to Guilfoyle)

    The U.S. government generally accepts the definition that
    the first member of a family to acquire citizenship or permanent resident 
    status qualifies as the family’s first generation.
    (that would be Guilfoyle's Mom...so regardless where her father was born,
    the first member of a family (her Mom) to acquire citizenship, *is* 1st generation,
    meaning her daughter Kimberly Guilfoyle *is* 2nd generation)
    = Guilfoyle is SECOND GENERATION
    Source:   https://tinyurl.com/y3seahdr

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2020 - 4:19 PM ET #3175

    US intelligence officials say there's no evidence to back up Trump's claims about threats to mail-in voting.

    Just another lie from a pathetic liar.

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    US intelligence officials say there's no evidence to back up Trump's claims about threats to mail-in voting.

    Just another lie from a pathetic liar.

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