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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 8:45 PM ET #901

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Not sure that i am the "left", since I have voted numerous Republicans in the ballots. If you are against Trump you are automatically left.  I hate how disingenuous some people are.
    I'll help connect the dots for you.  A vote against Trump is a vote for candidates that believe in a bigger government towards Socialism.   In case you haven't done  your due diligence and reviewed the candidates on the "left", this is what you are staring at..

    I know most Trumpers don't have the highest IQs but there is such a thing as abstaining from voting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Not sure that i am the "left", since I have voted numerous Republicans in the ballots. If you are against Trump you are automatically left.  I hate how disingenuous some people are.
    I'll help connect the dots for you.  A vote against Trump is a vote for candidates that believe in a bigger government towards Socialism.   In case you haven't done  your due diligence and reviewed the candidates on the "left", this is what you are staring at..

    I know most Trumpers don't have the highest IQs but there is such a thing as abstaining from voting.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 8:46 PM ET #902

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    "They're our companies.  I wanna tax those companies, they're not gonna be taxed by France.  I'm not gonna let people take advantage of American companies because if anyone is gonna take advantage of the American companies it's gonna be us"DJT

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    "They're our companies.  I wanna tax those companies, they're not gonna be taxed by France.  I'm not gonna let people take advantage of American companies because if anyone is gonna take advantage of the American companies it's gonna be us"DJT

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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:16 PM ET #903

    Rep. Louie Gohmert, the Texas Republican, said “So all I’ve got to say is if you love America, mamas don’t let your babies grow up to go to Harvard or Stanford law school.”

    He probably sent his kid to Trump University & is still waiting for his refund check from getting swindled.

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    Rep. Louie Gohmert, the Texas Republican, said “So all I’ve got to say is if you love America, mamas don’t let your babies grow up to go to Harvard or Stanford law school.”

    He probably sent his kid to Trump University & is still waiting for his refund check from getting swindled.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 10:25 PM ET #904

    Trump called Trudeau "two faced", cancelled a press conference & left the summit after hearing audio of world leaders making fun of him.

    C'mon Donnie Snowflake...it's just locker room talk.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up! 

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    Trump called Trudeau "two faced", cancelled a press conference & left the summit after hearing audio of world leaders making fun of him.

    C'mon Donnie Snowflake...it's just locker room talk.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up! 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 11:15 PM ET #905

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    I'll help connect the dots for you.  A vote against Trump is a vote for candidates that believe in a bigger government towards Socialism.   In case you haven't done  your due diligence and reviewed the candidates on the "left", this is what you are staring at.. 


    A vote against trump is a vote for not crapping all over the constitution. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    I'll help connect the dots for you.  A vote against Trump is a vote for candidates that believe in a bigger government towards Socialism.   In case you haven't done  your due diligence and reviewed the candidates on the "left", this is what you are staring at.. 


    A vote against trump is a vote for not crapping all over the constitution. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 1:52 AM ET #906

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    I have a question then..  Why post that Trump has a subpoena into his financial records?   Is this really newsworthy ? 

    It should be evident that this is all noise, and further attempts by the media to throw all they can to impeach and disgrace this president.   



    Most news media carry that news, so that seems newsworthy. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    I have a question then..  Why post that Trump has a subpoena into his financial records?   Is this really newsworthy ? 

    It should be evident that this is all noise, and further attempts by the media to throw all they can to impeach and disgrace this president.   



    Most news media carry that news, so that seems newsworthy. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 2:00 AM ET #907

    Capitalism? Trump has to give free $28 billion to farmers to bail out their huge losses due to Trump's broken China Trade War. Hello, socialism or hypocritical.   
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    Capitalism? Trump has to give free $28 billion to farmers to bail out their huge losses due to Trump's broken China Trade War. Hello, socialism or hypocritical.   
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 12:03 PM ET #908

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    I'll help connect the dots for you.  A vote against Trump is a vote for candidates that believe in a bigger government towards Socialism.   In case you haven't done  your due diligence and reviewed the candidates on the "left", this is what you are staring at..

    I know most Trumpers don't have the highest IQs but there is such a thing as abstaining from voting.

    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    I'll help connect the dots for you.  A vote against Trump is a vote for candidates that believe in a bigger government towards Socialism.   In case you haven't done  your due diligence and reviewed the candidates on the "left", this is what you are staring at..

    I know most Trumpers don't have the highest IQs but there is such a thing as abstaining from voting.

    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out.   

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 12:08 PM ET #909

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Most news media carry that news, so that seems newsworthy. 

    You need to learn to  "filter" out the garbage from the media, which is what that post was.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:


    Most news media carry that news, so that seems newsworthy. 

    You need to learn to  "filter" out the garbage from the media, which is what that post was.   

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 12:12 PM ET #910

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Capitalism? Trump has to give free $28 billion to farmers to bail out their huge losses due to Trump's broken China Trade War. Hello, socialism or hypocritical.   

    Socialism? No

    Hypocritical ? Yes.  I disagree with giving subsidies to any industry , but I understand why he is doing it.  China is going out of their way to punish the farmers, a loyal Trump base, so he is working to counter that affect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Capitalism? Trump has to give free $28 billion to farmers to bail out their huge losses due to Trump's broken China Trade War. Hello, socialism or hypocritical.   

    Socialism? No

    Hypocritical ? Yes.  I disagree with giving subsidies to any industry , but I understand why he is doing it.  China is going out of their way to punish the farmers, a loyal Trump base, so he is working to counter that affect.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 12:32 PM ET #911

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Capitalism? Trump has to give free $28 billion to farmers to bail out their huge losses due to Trump's broken China Trade War. Hello, socialism or hypocritical.   
    Socialism? NoHypocritical ? Yes.  I disagree with giving subsidies to any industry , but I understand why he is doing it.  China is going out of their way to punish the farmers, a loyal Trump base, so he is working to counter that affect.

    He started the farking trade war because in his words they are easy to win. No one wins a trade war.

    He had no plan & with any result that comes, he will declare it a victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Capitalism? Trump has to give free $28 billion to farmers to bail out their huge losses due to Trump's broken China Trade War. Hello, socialism or hypocritical.   
    Socialism? NoHypocritical ? Yes.  I disagree with giving subsidies to any industry , but I understand why he is doing it.  China is going out of their way to punish the farmers, a loyal Trump base, so he is working to counter that affect.

    He started the farking trade war because in his words they are easy to win. No one wins a trade war.

    He had no plan & with any result that comes, he will declare it a victory.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 2:47 PM ET #912

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    I'll help connect the dots for you.  A vote against Trump is a vote for candidates that believe in a bigger government towards Socialism.   In case you haven't done  your due diligence and reviewed the candidates on the "left", this is what you are staring at.. I know most Trumpers don't have the highest IQs but there is such a thing as abstaining from voting.
    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out.

    I don't look at things through a partisan vacuum like you seem to do.  I'm sorry you disagree but it takes effort to study certain policies than to blindly follow your arbitrary political tribes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    I'll help connect the dots for you.  A vote against Trump is a vote for candidates that believe in a bigger government towards Socialism.   In case you haven't done  your due diligence and reviewed the candidates on the "left", this is what you are staring at.. I know most Trumpers don't have the highest IQs but there is such a thing as abstaining from voting.
    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out.

    I don't look at things through a partisan vacuum like you seem to do.  I'm sorry you disagree but it takes effort to study certain policies than to blindly follow your arbitrary political tribes.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 3:23 PM ET #913

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out.

    I don't look at things through a partisan vacuum like you seem to do.  I'm sorry you disagree but it takes effort to study certain policies than to blindly follow your arbitrary political tribes.

    ... arbitrary political tribes.  That's pretty funny stuff right there.

     I don't follow anybody blindly,  including the President .  Case in point, I don't agree with his attacks on the Federal Reserve, nor his tariffs on South American & European countries.  I would have preferred he get the other countries to work with us and squeeze the Cheaters, um....  I mean Chinese Communists for their bad behaviour.  After all, the Cheaters screw all foreign companies with their forced technology transfers, and subsidies for their own Chinese companies.. So , that he could have handled differently and tried to get everybody against China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out.

    I don't look at things through a partisan vacuum like you seem to do.  I'm sorry you disagree but it takes effort to study certain policies than to blindly follow your arbitrary political tribes.

    ... arbitrary political tribes.  That's pretty funny stuff right there.

     I don't follow anybody blindly,  including the President .  Case in point, I don't agree with his attacks on the Federal Reserve, nor his tariffs on South American & European countries.  I would have preferred he get the other countries to work with us and squeeze the Cheaters, um....  I mean Chinese Communists for their bad behaviour.  After all, the Cheaters screw all foreign companies with their forced technology transfers, and subsidies for their own Chinese companies.. So , that he could have handled differently and tried to get everybody against China.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 3:32 PM ET #914

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Socialism? NoHypocritical ? Yes.  I disagree with giving subsidies to any industry , but I understand why he is doing it.  China is going out of their way to punish the farmers, a loyal Trump base, so he is working to counter that affect.

    He started the farking trade war because in his words they are easy to win. No one wins a trade war.

    He had no plan & with any result that comes, he will declare it a victory.

    He certainly did start the trade war, for the reasons I point out in the above post.  You need to get the Cheaters to change their cheating ways.   China has Gained so much over the last couple decades... at the Expense of the U.S.   Trump is trying to do something about that.

    The "Tarriffs" are nothing more than a  "negotiating tool"  to get China to change their cheating ways.  The Tarriffs are not an "end game" at all, and as you rightly point out , no wins if that's all there was to it.  There is more plan & strategy than you think.

    Think "Big Picture".  



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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Socialism? NoHypocritical ? Yes.  I disagree with giving subsidies to any industry , but I understand why he is doing it.  China is going out of their way to punish the farmers, a loyal Trump base, so he is working to counter that affect.

    He started the farking trade war because in his words they are easy to win. No one wins a trade war.

    He had no plan & with any result that comes, he will declare it a victory.

    He certainly did start the trade war, for the reasons I point out in the above post.  You need to get the Cheaters to change their cheating ways.   China has Gained so much over the last couple decades... at the Expense of the U.S.   Trump is trying to do something about that.

    The "Tarriffs" are nothing more than a  "negotiating tool"  to get China to change their cheating ways.  The Tarriffs are not an "end game" at all, and as you rightly point out , no wins if that's all there was to it.  There is more plan & strategy than you think.

    Think "Big Picture".  



     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 3:39 PM ET #915

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    You need to learn to  "filter" out the garbage from the media, which is what that post was.   


    "Trump asks Supreme Court to block House subpoena for financial documents and take up case"

    It happens today. So, who needs to "filter" out "garbage" news? 

    Mr. Donald J Trump will desperately need Supreme Court to rule in his favor. He night win it in that two conservative judges so far have been added to the Supreme Court under Trump's term. Those two additions might help him in this case. Stay tuned.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    You need to learn to  "filter" out the garbage from the media, which is what that post was.   


    "Trump asks Supreme Court to block House subpoena for financial documents and take up case"

    It happens today. So, who needs to "filter" out "garbage" news? 

    Mr. Donald J Trump will desperately need Supreme Court to rule in his favor. He night win it in that two conservative judges so far have been added to the Supreme Court under Trump's term. Those two additions might help him in this case. Stay tuned.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out.

    I don't look at things through a partisan vacuum like you seem to do.  I'm sorry you disagree but it takes effort to study certain policies than to blindly follow your arbitrary political tribes.


    Well said. 

    A real social program is a social program so it won't change with partisan. A social program is a social program under a GOP administration.    
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    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out.

    I don't look at things through a partisan vacuum like you seem to do.  I'm sorry you disagree but it takes effort to study certain policies than to blindly follow your arbitrary political tribes.


    Well said. 

    A real social program is a social program so it won't change with partisan. A social program is a social program under a GOP administration.    
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    He certainly did start the trade war, for the reasons I point out in the above post.  You need to get the Cheaters to change their cheating ways.   China has Gained so much over the last couple decades... at the Expense of the U.S.   Trump is trying to do something about that.

    The "Tarriffs" are nothing more than a  "negotiating tool"  to get China to change their cheating ways.  The Tarriffs are not an "end game" at all, and as you rightly point out , no wins if that's all there was to it.  There is more plan & strategy than you think.

    Think "Big Picture".  




    There is no cheating in pure capitalism. 
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    He certainly did start the trade war, for the reasons I point out in the above post.  You need to get the Cheaters to change their cheating ways.   China has Gained so much over the last couple decades... at the Expense of the U.S.   Trump is trying to do something about that.

    The "Tarriffs" are nothing more than a  "negotiating tool"  to get China to change their cheating ways.  The Tarriffs are not an "end game" at all, and as you rightly point out , no wins if that's all there was to it.  There is more plan & strategy than you think.

    Think "Big Picture".  




    There is no cheating in pure capitalism. 
     
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    Former Playmate Karen McDougal, one of Trump's paid-off women, has sued Fox News for defamation over a 2018 segment in which Tucker Carlson suggests she extorted the money from Trump by threatening to ruin his career and humiliate his family.

    Looks like someone is hoping for another payday.

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    Former Playmate Karen McDougal, one of Trump's paid-off women, has sued Fox News for defamation over a 2018 segment in which Tucker Carlson suggests she extorted the money from Trump by threatening to ruin his career and humiliate his family.

    Looks like someone is hoping for another payday.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out. I don't look at things through a partisan vacuum like you seem to do.  I'm sorry you disagree but it takes effort to study certain policies than to blindly follow your arbitrary political tribes.
    ... arbitrary political tribes.  That's pretty funny stuff right there.  I don't follow anybody blindly,  including the President .  Case in point, I don't agree with his attacks on the Federal Reserve, nor his tariffs on South American & European countries.  I would have preferred he get the other countries to work with us and squeeze the Cheaters, um....  I mean Chinese Communists for their bad behaviour.  After all, the Cheaters screw all foreign companies with their forced technology transfers, and subsidies for their own Chinese companies.. So , that he could have handled differently and tried to get everybody against China.

    Arbitrary is the correct term because in reality most people don't really align themselves with D and R, they are usually right in the middle with some particular leans.

    I'm glad you clarified but we are all cyber strangers for the most part and the words you post are the only way people will have a clue what you're trying to say.  Using socialism/socialist as a pejorative is the MO scare tactic for right wingers.  I quite frankly do not get it because America for all the harping they do against socialism has plenty of social programs as is.  I just think being disingenuous about policies reflects poorly on the individual no matter what side of the extreme aisle they "decide" to be on.

    Just a clown... doing clown things
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Which is just as bad......  Just Sad that you don't get it.  You have a choice against Socialism, and you choose to sit it out. I don't look at things through a partisan vacuum like you seem to do.  I'm sorry you disagree but it takes effort to study certain policies than to blindly follow your arbitrary political tribes.
    ... arbitrary political tribes.  That's pretty funny stuff right there.  I don't follow anybody blindly,  including the President .  Case in point, I don't agree with his attacks on the Federal Reserve, nor his tariffs on South American & European countries.  I would have preferred he get the other countries to work with us and squeeze the Cheaters, um....  I mean Chinese Communists for their bad behaviour.  After all, the Cheaters screw all foreign companies with their forced technology transfers, and subsidies for their own Chinese companies.. So , that he could have handled differently and tried to get everybody against China.

    Arbitrary is the correct term because in reality most people don't really align themselves with D and R, they are usually right in the middle with some particular leans.

    I'm glad you clarified but we are all cyber strangers for the most part and the words you post are the only way people will have a clue what you're trying to say.  Using socialism/socialist as a pejorative is the MO scare tactic for right wingers.  I quite frankly do not get it because America for all the harping they do against socialism has plenty of social programs as is.  I just think being disingenuous about policies reflects poorly on the individual no matter what side of the extreme aisle they "decide" to be on.

     
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    On December 1, 1955, Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on a public bus in Montgomery, Alabama.

    A few days later on December 5th, the Montgomery Bus Boycott began.

    The boycott ended 381 days later on December 20, 1956 when the Supreme Court struck down laws requiring segregates seating on public buses.

    This just proves that one person can make a difference.

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    On December 1, 1955, Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on a public bus in Montgomery, Alabama.

    A few days later on December 5th, the Montgomery Bus Boycott began.

    The boycott ended 381 days later on December 20, 1956 when the Supreme Court struck down laws requiring segregates seating on public buses.

    This just proves that one person can make a difference.

     
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    Two hoods living in Florida bump into each other at a Publix supermarket.....

    OJ: "Hey Stoney, how's the old lady? Ru guys still making porn?

    Stone: "OJ, it's been rough this year. We even lost our crib.You got any room?"

    OJ: "Hell no Stoney. I learned my lesson about living with white people."

    Stone: "Thought I'd ask OJ. Hey, ru still looking for those real killers?" 

    OJ: "Don't be a sucker Stoney. Since I beat that rap, I been laying low. I ain't doin chit."

    Stone: "OK, cu around OJ."

    OJ: "Not if I cu first Stoney."

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

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    Two hoods living in Florida bump into each other at a Publix supermarket.....

    OJ: "Hey Stoney, how's the old lady? Ru guys still making porn?

    Stone: "OJ, it's been rough this year. We even lost our crib.You got any room?"

    OJ: "Hell no Stoney. I learned my lesson about living with white people."

    Stone: "Thought I'd ask OJ. Hey, ru still looking for those real killers?" 

    OJ: "Don't be a sucker Stoney. Since I beat that rap, I been laying low. I ain't doin chit."

    Stone: "OK, cu around OJ."

    OJ: "Not if I cu first Stoney."

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

     
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    IMHO this has to be the greatest continuing thread in covers history, great job midnight 1. ! Also I’d like to thank all the May Supporting contributors on the thread that could last till 2024, that would have to be a record
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    IMHO this has to be the greatest continuing thread in covers history, great job midnight 1. ! Also I’d like to thank all the May Supporting contributors on the thread that could last till 2024, that would have to be a record
     
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    If china finds an alternative supplier of soy bean and corn purchases  what happens to the American farmers when their crop comes to market will they have to compete with the Russian market? It looks to me that the Russians could be big winners due to this trade war personally I’ve always been a fair trader not a free trailer but this fight Could bite American farmers in the @ss. Also will the farm industry recipients be asked to repay the 28 billion given to them by the president ?
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    If china finds an alternative supplier of soy bean and corn purchases  what happens to the American farmers when their crop comes to market will they have to compete with the Russian market? It looks to me that the Russians could be big winners due to this trade war personally I’ve always been a fair trader not a free trailer but this fight Could bite American farmers in the @ss. Also will the farm industry recipients be asked to repay the 28 billion given to them by the president ?
     
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    Sorry that should’ve been In this thread my apologies
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    Sorry that should’ve been In this thread my apologies
     
     
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    looked at the numbers to assess the potential damage, and found — at least when it comes to the pork market — the U.S. exports about 22% of its domestic pork production. Of that, about 17% goes to China and Hong Kong, a sizable share, yes, but Swanton writes, “it isn’t anywhere near critical.”

    Although pork producers would beg to differ, Swanson continues to explain that China will simply look elsewhere for pork, and other buyers will look to the U.S. for deals. Overall, he says, “the pork market will sort itself out quickly.”

    It’s a little different, but some of that is already happening in the soybean market, as buyers purchased a sizable order of U.S. soybeans, headed to an as-yet undisclosed location. A Reuters reporter who talked to trading insiders says the speculation is the beans are headed to processors in the Netherlands and Germany.

    If China implements the tariffs and isn’t buying U.S. beans, they’ll need to buy them somewhere (oh, hey, Brazil). A lower price on U.S. beans will make them more attractive to buyers other than China. Key adjective, though, is “lower.” (Although soybean futures are up at this writing, as the president’s trade rhetoric shifted in a speech Monday.)

    On the other hand, though, there is a long-term shake-out to consider if the tariffs are implemented.

    Ohio State University ag economist Ian Sheldon reminds us that China accounts for the bulk of global soybean imports — two-thirds of the total. U.S. exports make up about a third of that, “making soybeans the United States’ second-most valuable export to China after varieties of airplanes,” he writes.

    Losing that market hurts. A lot.

    And the U.S. stands to lose that market share to Brazil, the No. 2 exporter of soybeans, and “U.S. farmers may not be able to grab that market share back,” Sheldon warns.

    Of course, all of this may or may not ever happen.

    Ultimately, there’s the added frustration of farmers being used as a pawn in the global chess game between the U.S. and China. Naturally, China would target agricultural goods for tariffs because most farm states supported President Donald Trump, and the foreign government knows those farmers will be pretty vocal to get the president to back off his tit-for-tat trade negotiations involving agriculture.

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    looked at the numbers to assess the potential damage, and found — at least when it comes to the pork market — the U.S. exports about 22% of its domestic pork production. Of that, about 17% goes to China and Hong Kong, a sizable share, yes, but Swanton writes, “it isn’t anywhere near critical.”

    Although pork producers would beg to differ, Swanson continues to explain that China will simply look elsewhere for pork, and other buyers will look to the U.S. for deals. Overall, he says, “the pork market will sort itself out quickly.”

    It’s a little different, but some of that is already happening in the soybean market, as buyers purchased a sizable order of U.S. soybeans, headed to an as-yet undisclosed location. A Reuters reporter who talked to trading insiders says the speculation is the beans are headed to processors in the Netherlands and Germany.

    If China implements the tariffs and isn’t buying U.S. beans, they’ll need to buy them somewhere (oh, hey, Brazil). A lower price on U.S. beans will make them more attractive to buyers other than China. Key adjective, though, is “lower.” (Although soybean futures are up at this writing, as the president’s trade rhetoric shifted in a speech Monday.)

    On the other hand, though, there is a long-term shake-out to consider if the tariffs are implemented.

    Ohio State University ag economist Ian Sheldon reminds us that China accounts for the bulk of global soybean imports — two-thirds of the total. U.S. exports make up about a third of that, “making soybeans the United States’ second-most valuable export to China after varieties of airplanes,” he writes.

    Losing that market hurts. A lot.

    And the U.S. stands to lose that market share to Brazil, the No. 2 exporter of soybeans, and “U.S. farmers may not be able to grab that market share back,” Sheldon warns.

    Of course, all of this may or may not ever happen.

    Ultimately, there’s the added frustration of farmers being used as a pawn in the global chess game between the U.S. and China. Naturally, China would target agricultural goods for tariffs because most farm states supported President Donald Trump, and the foreign government knows those farmers will be pretty vocal to get the president to back off his tit-for-tat trade negotiations involving agriculture.

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