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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2019 - 12:11 PM ET #976

    Forgot to mention there's a picture of her & Rudy's buddy Lev.

    Could be sour grapes but those who worked with her in Florida believe she's in way over her head.

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    Forgot to mention there's a picture of her & Rudy's buddy Lev.

    Could be sour grapes but those who worked with her in Florida believe she's in way over her head.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2019 - 12:19 PM ET #977

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Florida Republican Rep Mark Gaetz has a well publicized DUI in his past. The name of the bar from which was driving is named...

    "The Swamp"

    I think Gaetz tried to Drain the Swamp all in one night. 

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up! 

    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick


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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Florida Republican Rep Mark Gaetz has a well publicized DUI in his past. The name of the bar from which was driving is named...

    "The Swamp"

    I think Gaetz tried to Drain the Swamp all in one night. 

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up! 

    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick


     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2019 - 12:31 PM ET #978

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump repeatedly and falsely claims current economy is the best in US history.  However economic growth and unemployment are better in previous decades.  According to Bloomberg, Trump's economy ranks 6th among the last 7 presidents overall in economic performance.  Obama's second term is stronger in job creation, GDP growth, stock market gains, lower federal deficit, less income inequality and more Americans with healthcare insurance.

    Many economists overwhelmingly credit Obama for strong US economy.  Little evidence that Trump's tax cuts and deregulation have meaningfully improve economy.  He is lucky to inherit upward trends in consumer confidence and lower unemployment that began during Obama's term.


    So much misinformation in your post, it's hard to figure out where to begin ! 

    -  Economic Growth (i.e. GDP) has taken a hit in last year or so, primarily due to the "self-inflicted" U.S. - China trade war.   Do we believe in the U.S. and our global competitiveness long term ?  Then , we need to sacrifice short term hit for long-term gain.

    - Unemployment is the best it's been in decades ?  It's the best its been in more than 50 years !  That predates many of his here, so yeah... it's a big deal !!


    -  Many economists credit "Obama" for the strong for the strong U.S. economy??   Sorry, that just lacks a basic understanding of what actually occurred, and what Obama "didn't do".  

    In short, most economists would credit the "Federal Reserve" for its ZIRP policy that benefited both stock and economy.   Simple question,... what did Obama do, what bill did he help sign, that  helped the economy ?  Simple Question... 


    -  Little evidence that Trump's tax cuts and deregulation have meaningfully improve economy?  No question they have helped out... they just haven't helped out as much,... due to the 1st point I made above. 


     



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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump repeatedly and falsely claims current economy is the best in US history.  However economic growth and unemployment are better in previous decades.  According to Bloomberg, Trump's economy ranks 6th among the last 7 presidents overall in economic performance.  Obama's second term is stronger in job creation, GDP growth, stock market gains, lower federal deficit, less income inequality and more Americans with healthcare insurance.

    Many economists overwhelmingly credit Obama for strong US economy.  Little evidence that Trump's tax cuts and deregulation have meaningfully improve economy.  He is lucky to inherit upward trends in consumer confidence and lower unemployment that began during Obama's term.


    So much misinformation in your post, it's hard to figure out where to begin ! 

    -  Economic Growth (i.e. GDP) has taken a hit in last year or so, primarily due to the "self-inflicted" U.S. - China trade war.   Do we believe in the U.S. and our global competitiveness long term ?  Then , we need to sacrifice short term hit for long-term gain.

    - Unemployment is the best it's been in decades ?  It's the best its been in more than 50 years !  That predates many of his here, so yeah... it's a big deal !!


    -  Many economists credit "Obama" for the strong for the strong U.S. economy??   Sorry, that just lacks a basic understanding of what actually occurred, and what Obama "didn't do".  

    In short, most economists would credit the "Federal Reserve" for its ZIRP policy that benefited both stock and economy.   Simple question,... what did Obama do, what bill did he help sign, that  helped the economy ?  Simple Question... 


    -  Little evidence that Trump's tax cuts and deregulation have meaningfully improve economy?  No question they have helped out... they just haven't helped out as much,... due to the 1st point I made above. 


     



     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2019 - 12:33 PM ET #979

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Florida Republican Rep Mark Gaetz has a well publicized DUI in his past. The name of the bar from which was driving is named... "The Swamp" I think Gaetz tried to Drain the Swamp all in one night.  You Can't Make This Stuff Up! 
    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick

    Supposedly his rich daddy helped cover up multiple other incidents of his drinking.

    We won't agree that I believe the dude is a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Florida Republican Rep Mark Gaetz has a well publicized DUI in his past. The name of the bar from which was driving is named... "The Swamp" I think Gaetz tried to Drain the Swamp all in one night.  You Can't Make This Stuff Up! 
    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick

    Supposedly his rich daddy helped cover up multiple other incidents of his drinking.

    We won't agree that I believe the dude is a tool.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2019 - 12:35 PM ET #980

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick

    Supposedly his rich daddy helped cover up multiple other incidents of his drinking.

    We won't agree that I believe the dude is a tool.

    .

    Then, that isn't acceptable if that is in fact true..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick

    Supposedly his rich daddy helped cover up multiple other incidents of his drinking.

    We won't agree that I believe the dude is a tool.

    .

    Then, that isn't acceptable if that is in fact true..

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2019 - 1:05 AM ET #981

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:


     Economic Growth (i.e. GDP) has taken a hit in last year or so, primarily due to the "self-inflicted" U.S. - China trade war. 

    - Unemployment is the best it's been in decades ? 

    -  Many economists credit "Obama" for the strong U.S. economy??   

    What did Obama do, what bill did he help sign, that  helped the economy ? 


    Trump is wrong to claim best economy in US history.  Higher GDP growth and lower unemployment rates in the 1950s and 1960s.  Despite inheriting a strong economy from Obama, Trump administration uses recession fighting policies to prop up US economy.  Bad governments increase budget deficits via unnecessary tax cuts when they are supposed to reduce deficits.

    After starting horrible trade war against the world, federal reserve lowers interest rates to prevent US economy from sinking.  However that isn't enough to counteract the damage.  In addition, fed also uses quantitative easing in which central bank buys bonds at rate of $60 billion per month.  Problem is that increasing excessive debt could have consequences in the future.  Running economy on debt is like someone living the high life by overusing credit cards.  The great Trump economy is an illusion financed by debt.

    Cspan survey of historians rank Obama among the best presidents in economic management.  His administration ended the great recession.  $787 billion stimulus package lead to the longest economic expansion in US history.  American recovery and reinvestment act pumped $242 billion in US economy.  His federal reserve maintained low interest rates for the longest period in centuries.  His bailout of auto industry saved 3 million jobs.  According to the balance, Obama is the third best job creating president in US history.  Unemployment rate declined from 10% high to 4%.  Under Trump, unemployment rate dropped to 3.6%.  So Obama has a more significant impact on US economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:


     Economic Growth (i.e. GDP) has taken a hit in last year or so, primarily due to the "self-inflicted" U.S. - China trade war. 

    - Unemployment is the best it's been in decades ? 

    -  Many economists credit "Obama" for the strong U.S. economy??   

    What did Obama do, what bill did he help sign, that  helped the economy ? 


    Trump is wrong to claim best economy in US history.  Higher GDP growth and lower unemployment rates in the 1950s and 1960s.  Despite inheriting a strong economy from Obama, Trump administration uses recession fighting policies to prop up US economy.  Bad governments increase budget deficits via unnecessary tax cuts when they are supposed to reduce deficits.

    After starting horrible trade war against the world, federal reserve lowers interest rates to prevent US economy from sinking.  However that isn't enough to counteract the damage.  In addition, fed also uses quantitative easing in which central bank buys bonds at rate of $60 billion per month.  Problem is that increasing excessive debt could have consequences in the future.  Running economy on debt is like someone living the high life by overusing credit cards.  The great Trump economy is an illusion financed by debt.

    Cspan survey of historians rank Obama among the best presidents in economic management.  His administration ended the great recession.  $787 billion stimulus package lead to the longest economic expansion in US history.  American recovery and reinvestment act pumped $242 billion in US economy.  His federal reserve maintained low interest rates for the longest period in centuries.  His bailout of auto industry saved 3 million jobs.  According to the balance, Obama is the third best job creating president in US history.  Unemployment rate declined from 10% high to 4%.  Under Trump, unemployment rate dropped to 3.6%.  So Obama has a more significant impact on US economy.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2019 - 12:50 PM ET #982

    In order to get rid of Mitch McConnell, Gardner (CO), Ernst(IA),Tillis (NC)& Collins (ME) must also go find other jobs.

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    In order to get rid of Mitch McConnell, Gardner (CO), Ernst(IA),Tillis (NC)& Collins (ME) must also go find other jobs.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2019 - 1:30 AM ET #983

    Trump's trade war against China has been futile with little accomplished in 2 years.  He promises to shrink trade deficits but instead deficits increased.  He claims other countries would pay for tariffs but instead American businesses and consumers pay.  Almost $1000 per average household according to US chamber of commerce.  So far, US would be better off if Trump didn't start stupid trade wars.

     Trump tends to announce deals that turn into non-deals.  For example, denuclearization of north Korea. Whether latest US-China ceasefire last remains to be seen as major issues are still unresolved,  Less optimistic State department warns trade war could be resumed if China breaks promises.  Whereas China won't guarantee purchases unless conditions are favorable.  US is supposed to rollback tariffs while China increases purchases which it would have done anyway without a trade war.

    Also China should improve protection of intellectual properties which chineses are already doing in recent years.  Survey of companies by US-China business council reveals protecting intellectual property ranks 6th on a list of pressing concerns.  No doubt Trump tries to spin some small concessions as a big victory.  But actual results make everyone poorer. 

    .Historically, trade wars produce a fractured international order marked by retaliatory restrictions and higher costs on trade, technology and travel.  Resulting in diminished prosperity, persistent instability and higher risk of military conflict for countries involved.  By 2020, Trump  reckless trade wars could cost the global economy $700 billion according to International monetary fund. Even past president Reagan warns about protectionism.  But those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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    Trump's trade war against China has been futile with little accomplished in 2 years.  He promises to shrink trade deficits but instead deficits increased.  He claims other countries would pay for tariffs but instead American businesses and consumers pay.  Almost $1000 per average household according to US chamber of commerce.  So far, US would be better off if Trump didn't start stupid trade wars.

     Trump tends to announce deals that turn into non-deals.  For example, denuclearization of north Korea. Whether latest US-China ceasefire last remains to be seen as major issues are still unresolved,  Less optimistic State department warns trade war could be resumed if China breaks promises.  Whereas China won't guarantee purchases unless conditions are favorable.  US is supposed to rollback tariffs while China increases purchases which it would have done anyway without a trade war.

    Also China should improve protection of intellectual properties which chineses are already doing in recent years.  Survey of companies by US-China business council reveals protecting intellectual property ranks 6th on a list of pressing concerns.  No doubt Trump tries to spin some small concessions as a big victory.  But actual results make everyone poorer. 

    .Historically, trade wars produce a fractured international order marked by retaliatory restrictions and higher costs on trade, technology and travel.  Resulting in diminished prosperity, persistent instability and higher risk of military conflict for countries involved.  By 2020, Trump  reckless trade wars could cost the global economy $700 billion according to International monetary fund. Even past president Reagan warns about protectionism.  But those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2019 - 2:06 AM ET #984

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump's trade war against China has been futile with little accomplished in 2 years.  He promises to shrink trade deficits but instead deficits increased.  He claims other countries would pay for tariffs but instead American businesses and consumers pay.  Almost $1000 per average household according to US chamber of commerce.  So far, US would be better off if Trump didn't start stupid trade wars.

     Trump tends to announce deals that turn into non-deals.  For example, denuclearization of north Korea. Whether latest US-China ceasefire last remains to be seen as major issues are still unresolved,  Less optimistic State department warns trade war could be resumed if China breaks promises.  Whereas China won't guarantee purchases unless conditions are favorable.  US is supposed to rollback tariffs while China increases purchases which it would have done anyway without a trade war.

    Also China should improve protection of intellectual properties which chineses are already doing in recent years.  Survey of companies by US-China business council reveals protecting intellectual property ranks 6th on a list of pressing concerns.  No doubt Trump tries to spin some small concessions as a big victory.  But actual results make everyone poorer. 

    .Historically, trade wars produce a fractured international order marked by retaliatory restrictions and higher costs on trade, technology and travel.  Resulting in diminished prosperity, persistent instability and higher risk of military conflict for countries involved.  By 2020, Trump  reckless trade wars could cost the global economy $700 billion according to International monetary fund. Even past president Reagan warns about protectionism.  But those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    Yes in the end, Mr. Donald J Trump will cave in from his broken trade war with China. There is no winner in trade war, Trump chose the wrong trade police for trade war which traditional GOP has strictly opposed until Pres. Trump.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump's trade war against China has been futile with little accomplished in 2 years.  He promises to shrink trade deficits but instead deficits increased.  He claims other countries would pay for tariffs but instead American businesses and consumers pay.  Almost $1000 per average household according to US chamber of commerce.  So far, US would be better off if Trump didn't start stupid trade wars.

     Trump tends to announce deals that turn into non-deals.  For example, denuclearization of north Korea. Whether latest US-China ceasefire last remains to be seen as major issues are still unresolved,  Less optimistic State department warns trade war could be resumed if China breaks promises.  Whereas China won't guarantee purchases unless conditions are favorable.  US is supposed to rollback tariffs while China increases purchases which it would have done anyway without a trade war.

    Also China should improve protection of intellectual properties which chineses are already doing in recent years.  Survey of companies by US-China business council reveals protecting intellectual property ranks 6th on a list of pressing concerns.  No doubt Trump tries to spin some small concessions as a big victory.  But actual results make everyone poorer. 

    .Historically, trade wars produce a fractured international order marked by retaliatory restrictions and higher costs on trade, technology and travel.  Resulting in diminished prosperity, persistent instability and higher risk of military conflict for countries involved.  By 2020, Trump  reckless trade wars could cost the global economy $700 billion according to International monetary fund. Even past president Reagan warns about protectionism.  But those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    Yes in the end, Mr. Donald J Trump will cave in from his broken trade war with China. There is no winner in trade war, Trump chose the wrong trade police for trade war which traditional GOP has strictly opposed until Pres. Trump.   
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2019 - 5:37 PM ET #985

    Was watching football & reading the paper. Yea, I still like the feel of the paper. 

    I saw an article in the Sun Sentinel by AP called "Tiny Clues Help Solve Child Sex Cases." It's about ICE & a small department consisting of 3 Analysts & ! Agent.  They investigated 4,224 cases resulting in 3,771 arrests so far this year. That 89%. They also identified 1,066 victims. They do tremendous work.

    People doing this work better have some mental medical insurance. 

    Check it out

     

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    Was watching football & reading the paper. Yea, I still like the feel of the paper. 

    I saw an article in the Sun Sentinel by AP called "Tiny Clues Help Solve Child Sex Cases." It's about ICE & a small department consisting of 3 Analysts & ! Agent.  They investigated 4,224 cases resulting in 3,771 arrests so far this year. That 89%. They also identified 1,066 victims. They do tremendous work.

    People doing this work better have some mental medical insurance. 

    Check it out

     

     
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    Congress asked the IRS to report on why it audits the poor more than the affluent. Its response is that it doesn’t have enough money and people to audit the wealthy properly. So... it’s not gonna.

    an_roll_laugh Somebody's gonna get fired...

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

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    Congress asked the IRS to report on why it audits the poor more than the affluent. Its response is that it doesn’t have enough money and people to audit the wealthy properly. So... it’s not gonna.

    an_roll_laugh Somebody's gonna get fired...

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump is wrong to claim best economy in US history.  Higher GDP growth and lower unemployment rates in the 1950s and 1960s.  Despite inheriting a strong economy from Obama, Trump administration uses recession fighting policies to prop up US economy.  Bad governments increase budget deficits via unnecessary tax cuts when they are supposed to reduce deficits.

    After starting horrible trade war against the world, federal reserve lowers interest rates to prevent US economy from sinking.  However that isn't enough to counteract the damage.  In addition, fed also uses quantitative easing in which central bank buys bonds at rate of $60 billion per month.  Problem is that increasing excessive debt could have consequences in the future.  Running economy on debt is like someone living the high life by overusing credit cards.  The great Trump economy is an illusion financed by debt.

    Cspan survey of historians rank Obama among the best presidents in economic management.  His administration ended the great recession.  $787 billion stimulus package lead to the longest economic expansion in US history.  American recovery and reinvestment act pumped $242 billion in US economy.  His federal reserve maintained low interest rates for the longest period in centuries.  His bailout of auto industry saved 3 million jobs.  According to the balance, Obama is the third best job creating president in US history.  Unemployment rate declined from 10% high to 4%.  Under Trump, unemployment rate dropped to 3.6%.  So Obama has a more significant impact on US economy.


    Let's all be clear here... Trump does engage in a good amount of
    "bloviating" about "the best "x" in history.""    I don't agree with him when he speaks in these terms.  All he needs to do is speak in the truth and say his policies have helped to make the American people's taxes "rates"  lower.... and enjoy greater wage increases.  These are both facts that can't be disputed  ...  Wage increases are finally creeping closer to 3%, which will help fuel a greater amount of consumer spending.  We're gonna here soon that this is going to be one of the best Christmases ever when it comes to consumer spending ... People are confident, and are willing to spend lots of money on their Christmas Shopping when they are confident about their jobs..  

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump is wrong to claim best economy in US history.  Higher GDP growth and lower unemployment rates in the 1950s and 1960s.  Despite inheriting a strong economy from Obama, Trump administration uses recession fighting policies to prop up US economy.  Bad governments increase budget deficits via unnecessary tax cuts when they are supposed to reduce deficits.

    After starting horrible trade war against the world, federal reserve lowers interest rates to prevent US economy from sinking.  However that isn't enough to counteract the damage.  In addition, fed also uses quantitative easing in which central bank buys bonds at rate of $60 billion per month.  Problem is that increasing excessive debt could have consequences in the future.  Running economy on debt is like someone living the high life by overusing credit cards.  The great Trump economy is an illusion financed by debt.

    Cspan survey of historians rank Obama among the best presidents in economic management.  His administration ended the great recession.  $787 billion stimulus package lead to the longest economic expansion in US history.  American recovery and reinvestment act pumped $242 billion in US economy.  His federal reserve maintained low interest rates for the longest period in centuries.  His bailout of auto industry saved 3 million jobs.  According to the balance, Obama is the third best job creating president in US history.  Unemployment rate declined from 10% high to 4%.  Under Trump, unemployment rate dropped to 3.6%.  So Obama has a more significant impact on US economy.


    Let's all be clear here... Trump does engage in a good amount of
    "bloviating" about "the best "x" in history.""    I don't agree with him when he speaks in these terms.  All he needs to do is speak in the truth and say his policies have helped to make the American people's taxes "rates"  lower.... and enjoy greater wage increases.  These are both facts that can't be disputed  ...  Wage increases are finally creeping closer to 3%, which will help fuel a greater amount of consumer spending.  We're gonna here soon that this is going to be one of the best Christmases ever when it comes to consumer spending ... People are confident, and are willing to spend lots of money on their Christmas Shopping when they are confident about their jobs..  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump's trade war against China has been futile with little accomplished in 2 years.  He promises to shrink trade deficits but instead deficits increased.  He claims other countries would pay for tariffs but instead American businesses and consumers pay.  Almost $1000 per average household according to US chamber of commerce.  So far, US would be better off if Trump didn't start stupid trade wars.

     Trump tends to announce deals that turn into non-deals.  For example, denuclearization of north Korea. Whether latest US-China ceasefire last remains to be seen as major issues are still unresolved,  Less optimistic State department warns trade war could be resumed if China breaks promises.  Whereas China won't guarantee purchases unless conditions are favorable.  US is supposed to rollback tariffs while China increases purchases which it would have done anyway without a trade war.

    Also China should improve protection of intellectual properties which chineses are already doing in recent years.  Survey of companies by US-China business council reveals protecting intellectual property ranks 6th on a list of pressing concerns.  No doubt Trump tries to spin some small concessions as a big victory.  But actual results make everyone poorer. 

    .Historically, trade wars produce a fractured international order marked by retaliatory restrictions and higher costs on trade, technology and travel.  Resulting in diminished prosperity, persistent instability and higher risk of military conflict for countries involved.  By 2020, Trump  reckless trade wars could cost the global economy $700 billion according to International monetary fund. Even past president Reagan warns about protectionism.  But those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


    ...""Third, seriously , you have a habit of misinformation....Let's deal with some facts, shall we ??   I mentioned earlier that the Trump "tariffs" are nothing more than a "negotiating tool."   They are not an end game, ... but a means to and end.  Do you understand how this works ?  Trump is not applying tariffs just for sake.. It is to  get the "Cheaters" (i.e. China) to change their ways..

    ... where have we gone in these trade discussions in a year a half ???

    Let's assume Ag purchases are net neutral...   Trump still has tariffs applied to China, while they work on a Phase 2 or 3 to work on the Real meat & potatoes of the trade deal (i.e. forced technology transfer, IP protections, putting a stop to state subsidies) .

    For all the joking and ridicule we hear of Trump... It is China that  has got to be thinking they got "played" at this point.    They must now change their "cheating ways" to get these remaining tariffs eliminated...

    Should we be surprised North Korea fired a few missiles over the weekend ?   Of course not.  They are puppet master to the Chinese... Lol..   China is pissed off.... and I wouldn't be surprised if this "Phase 1" never gets signed..  


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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump's trade war against China has been futile with little accomplished in 2 years.  He promises to shrink trade deficits but instead deficits increased.  He claims other countries would pay for tariffs but instead American businesses and consumers pay.  Almost $1000 per average household according to US chamber of commerce.  So far, US would be better off if Trump didn't start stupid trade wars.

     Trump tends to announce deals that turn into non-deals.  For example, denuclearization of north Korea. Whether latest US-China ceasefire last remains to be seen as major issues are still unresolved,  Less optimistic State department warns trade war could be resumed if China breaks promises.  Whereas China won't guarantee purchases unless conditions are favorable.  US is supposed to rollback tariffs while China increases purchases which it would have done anyway without a trade war.

    Also China should improve protection of intellectual properties which chineses are already doing in recent years.  Survey of companies by US-China business council reveals protecting intellectual property ranks 6th on a list of pressing concerns.  No doubt Trump tries to spin some small concessions as a big victory.  But actual results make everyone poorer. 

    .Historically, trade wars produce a fractured international order marked by retaliatory restrictions and higher costs on trade, technology and travel.  Resulting in diminished prosperity, persistent instability and higher risk of military conflict for countries involved.  By 2020, Trump  reckless trade wars could cost the global economy $700 billion according to International monetary fund. Even past president Reagan warns about protectionism.  But those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


    ...""Third, seriously , you have a habit of misinformation....Let's deal with some facts, shall we ??   I mentioned earlier that the Trump "tariffs" are nothing more than a "negotiating tool."   They are not an end game, ... but a means to and end.  Do you understand how this works ?  Trump is not applying tariffs just for sake.. It is to  get the "Cheaters" (i.e. China) to change their ways..

    ... where have we gone in these trade discussions in a year a half ???

    Let's assume Ag purchases are net neutral...   Trump still has tariffs applied to China, while they work on a Phase 2 or 3 to work on the Real meat & potatoes of the trade deal (i.e. forced technology transfer, IP protections, putting a stop to state subsidies) .

    For all the joking and ridicule we hear of Trump... It is China that  has got to be thinking they got "played" at this point.    They must now change their "cheating ways" to get these remaining tariffs eliminated...

    Should we be surprised North Korea fired a few missiles over the weekend ?   Of course not.  They are puppet master to the Chinese... Lol..   China is pissed off.... and I wouldn't be surprised if this "Phase 1" never gets signed..  


     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 8:46 AM ET #989

    However Trump may try to spin this, he has lost the trade war with China that has cost Americans billions of dollars according to nobel economist Klugman.  China basically ended up where it started.  Buying agricultural products and selling manufactured goods to US.  Unclear if Trump won anything in trade war according to Peterson institute of international economics.  According to Council of foreign relations, alot of pain for very little gain.  Trump has made US weak, neither trusted by allies, nor feared by enemies.
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    However Trump may try to spin this, he has lost the trade war with China that has cost Americans billions of dollars according to nobel economist Klugman.  China basically ended up where it started.  Buying agricultural products and selling manufactured goods to US.  Unclear if Trump won anything in trade war according to Peterson institute of international economics.  According to Council of foreign relations, alot of pain for very little gain.  Trump has made US weak, neither trusted by allies, nor feared by enemies.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 3:11 PM ET #990

    Fake Trump supporter Colby Covington lost his UFC title shot this weekend to Kamaru Usman and suffered a broken jaw during the fight.  Of course the internet came through immediately with "Make My Jaw Great Again" hat memes for Colby who ran out of the octagon right after the fight to find his safe space.  Covington then followed in the footsteps of his hero Donald Trump and took to Twitter complaining about the referee about 'fake eye poke' and 'fake stoppage'.  The Trump model of 'never lose clean' is in full effect

    Covington embraced the 'MAGA' life mostly in part to be noticed and draw negative attention to himself to become more famous.  Friends and training partners say he has little to no interest or knowledge in politics, but that didn't stop him from getting a visit to the White House and the support of the Trump sons

    Only posting this because had he won, we all know Slim would have made a point of announcing it   
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    Fake Trump supporter Colby Covington lost his UFC title shot this weekend to Kamaru Usman and suffered a broken jaw during the fight.  Of course the internet came through immediately with "Make My Jaw Great Again" hat memes for Colby who ran out of the octagon right after the fight to find his safe space.  Covington then followed in the footsteps of his hero Donald Trump and took to Twitter complaining about the referee about 'fake eye poke' and 'fake stoppage'.  The Trump model of 'never lose clean' is in full effect

    Covington embraced the 'MAGA' life mostly in part to be noticed and draw negative attention to himself to become more famous.  Friends and training partners say he has little to no interest or knowledge in politics, but that didn't stop him from getting a visit to the White House and the support of the Trump sons

    Only posting this because had he won, we all know Slim would have made a point of announcing it   
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 4:02 PM ET #991

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick

    Supposedly his rich daddy helped cover up multiple other incidents of his drinking.

    We won't agree that I believe the dude is a tool.

    In the War on Women,Teddy Kennedy is the only pol.to have a Confirmed Kill.............Chris Plante
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick

    Supposedly his rich daddy helped cover up multiple other incidents of his drinking.

    We won't agree that I believe the dude is a tool.

    In the War on Women,Teddy Kennedy is the only pol.to have a Confirmed Kill.............Chris Plante
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick Supposedly his rich daddy helped cover up multiple other incidents of his drinking. We won't agree that I believe the dude is a tool.
    In the War on Women,Teddy Kennedy is the only pol.to have a Confirmed Kill.............Chris Plante

    Never heard of Plante. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Did he kill anyone ? ... Did he pay his debt to society ? Somewhere, Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave... in chappaquiddick Supposedly his rich daddy helped cover up multiple other incidents of his drinking. We won't agree that I believe the dude is a tool.
    In the War on Women,Teddy Kennedy is the only pol.to have a Confirmed Kill.............Chris Plante

    Never heard of Plante. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 8:18 PM ET #993

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:


    Never heard of Plante. 


    Really .. he spent 17 years at CNN...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:


    Never heard of Plante. 


    Really .. he spent 17 years at CNN...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Never heard of Plante. 
    Really .. he spent 17 years at CNN...

    Seriously...never heard of the guy.

    I watched much more sports (but can't watch the NBA anymore) during that time period & really only turned on CNN when there was a disaster somewhere in the world. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Never heard of Plante. 
    Really .. he spent 17 years at CNN...

    Seriously...never heard of the guy.

    I watched much more sports (but can't watch the NBA anymore) during that time period & really only turned on CNN when there was a disaster somewhere in the world. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 8:28 PM ET #995

    Speaking of disasters, Carly Fiorina (former Republican Presidential candidate) says it's vital that be Trump be impeached but doesn't rule out voting for him in 2020.

    What a dingbat! 

     

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    Speaking of disasters, Carly Fiorina (former Republican Presidential candidate) says it's vital that be Trump be impeached but doesn't rule out voting for him in 2020.

    What a dingbat! 

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 9:56 PM ET #996

    A letter was sent to Congress signed by 750 historians urging Trump's impeachment. 

    “President Trump’s numerous and flagrant abuses of power are precisely what the Framers had in mind as grounds for impeaching and removing a president,” stated the letter, written by Princeton history professor Sean Wilentz and Andrew Johnson biographer Brenda Wineapple. “Among those most hurtful to the Constitution have been his attempts to coerce the country of Ukraine, under attack from Russia, an adversary power to the United States, by withholding essential military assistance in exchange for the fabrication and legitimization of false information in order to advance his own re-election.”

    “President Trump’s lawless obstruction of the House of Representatives, which is rightly seeking documents and witness testimony in pursuit of its constitutionally-mandated oversight role, has demonstrated brazen contempt for representative government,” continued the letter. “So have his attempts to justify that obstruction on the grounds that the executive enjoys absolute immunity, a fictitious doctrine that, if tolerated, would turn the president into an elected monarch above the law.”

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    A letter was sent to Congress signed by 750 historians urging Trump's impeachment. 

    “President Trump’s numerous and flagrant abuses of power are precisely what the Framers had in mind as grounds for impeaching and removing a president,” stated the letter, written by Princeton history professor Sean Wilentz and Andrew Johnson biographer Brenda Wineapple. “Among those most hurtful to the Constitution have been his attempts to coerce the country of Ukraine, under attack from Russia, an adversary power to the United States, by withholding essential military assistance in exchange for the fabrication and legitimization of false information in order to advance his own re-election.”

    “President Trump’s lawless obstruction of the House of Representatives, which is rightly seeking documents and witness testimony in pursuit of its constitutionally-mandated oversight role, has demonstrated brazen contempt for representative government,” continued the letter. “So have his attempts to justify that obstruction on the grounds that the executive enjoys absolute immunity, a fictitious doctrine that, if tolerated, would turn the president into an elected monarch above the law.”

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 10:05 PM ET #997

    How about this weasel from Jersey Jeff Van Drew?

    Republicans received him with open arms even though he's been exposed as an opportunist trying to save his job & 2 others Republicans were already running for the spot.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

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    How about this weasel from Jersey Jeff Van Drew?

    Republicans received him with open arms even though he's been exposed as an opportunist trying to save his job & 2 others Republicans were already running for the spot.

    You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2019 - 12:53 PM ET #998

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Speaking of disasters, Carly Fiorina (former Republican Presidential candidate) says it's vital that be Trump be impeached but doesn't rule out voting for him in 2020.

    What a dingbat! 

     

    She IS a dingbat for sure... She nearly ran the company, Hewlett Packard , into the ground.. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Speaking of disasters, Carly Fiorina (former Republican Presidential candidate) says it's vital that be Trump be impeached but doesn't rule out voting for him in 2020.

    What a dingbat! 

     

    She IS a dingbat for sure... She nearly ran the company, Hewlett Packard , into the ground.. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2019 - 6:43 PM ET #999

    Judge Oetken has declined to revoke Parnas's bail, saying the info he provided about his assets/income "might have violated the spirit" of the disclosure requirements, "but I don't know that it rises to the level of intentional misstatements warranting the revocation of bail." Spirit of the law? I think he chose to deceive & got caught. Lev is no virgin.

     

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    Judge Oetken has declined to revoke Parnas's bail, saying the info he provided about his assets/income "might have violated the spirit" of the disclosure requirements, "but I don't know that it rises to the level of intentional misstatements warranting the revocation of bail." Spirit of the law? I think he chose to deceive & got caught. Lev is no virgin.

     

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2019 - 6:48 PM ET #1000

    Sad to see that our top Ukrainian diplomat William Taylor will retire again. He came back to serve out country at the request of Pompeo. 

    We need more people like him in government.

     

    BTW..Rick Gates gets a 45 day prison term, 3 years of probation & a fine. He must have sung beautifully for the Feds.

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    Sad to see that our top Ukrainian diplomat William Taylor will retire again. He came back to serve out country at the request of Pompeo. 

    We need more people like him in government.

     

    BTW..Rick Gates gets a 45 day prison term, 3 years of probation & a fine. He must have sung beautifully for the Feds.

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