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    President Trump Would Like To Replace Food Stamps With Packaged Food Deliveries

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    GimmeMoneyNow
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2018 - 6:47 PM ET #1

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/white-house-proposes-delivering-food-boxes-instead-of-food-stamps.html

    Regardless of your "political views", how can Any Taxpaying American NOT be for this?!?!?
    How has someone not thought of this sooner?

    Yes!!!!

    If you "need" the food stamps to buy food, then - no problem! It will be delivered to you door.....

    For the other probably 90% of you leeches selling your tax funded food stamps for booze, drugs, & cigarettes.....

    #TimesUp

    If you don't like it.....

    GET A FU##ING JOB!!!!!

    I'm LOVING this!!!!!!

    Dammit Trump!! I wanna hate you, but you just keep on.....

    #MAGA

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/white-house-proposes-delivering-food-boxes-instead-of-food-stamps.html

    Regardless of your "political views", how can Any Taxpaying American NOT be for this?!?!?
    How has someone not thought of this sooner?

    Yes!!!!

    If you "need" the food stamps to buy food, then - no problem! It will be delivered to you door.....

    For the other probably 90% of you leeches selling your tax funded food stamps for booze, drugs, & cigarettes.....

    #TimesUp

    If you don't like it.....

    GET A FU##ING JOB!!!!!

    I'm LOVING this!!!!!!

    Dammit Trump!! I wanna hate you, but you just keep on.....

    #MAGA

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2018 - 8:02 PM ET #2

    So now that you gave Trump another backrub, tell me why this is a bad idea, and also why this will never happen.


    Both answers are easy...even a blind Trump fan should know these easy answers.

     

    GO!

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    So now that you gave Trump another backrub, tell me why this is a bad idea, and also why this will never happen.


    Both answers are easy...even a blind Trump fan should know these easy answers.

     

    GO!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2018 - 9:16 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    So now that you gave Trump another backrub, tell me why this is a bad idea, and also why this will never happen.


    Both answers are easy...even a blind Trump fan should know these easy answers.

     

    GO!



    You're absolutely right. This will never pass because there's a certain whiny snowflake voting "element" that will argue the point of the "Gluten-free, Non-GMO, organic, peanut-allergy" homeless person and HOW DARE YOU regulate their dietary needs.....


    Even though we're paying for it.....


    And most "Food Stamp" money just gets traded for alcohol, drugs, and cigarettes anyways.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    So now that you gave Trump another backrub, tell me why this is a bad idea, and also why this will never happen.


    Both answers are easy...even a blind Trump fan should know these easy answers.

     

    GO!



    You're absolutely right. This will never pass because there's a certain whiny snowflake voting "element" that will argue the point of the "Gluten-free, Non-GMO, organic, peanut-allergy" homeless person and HOW DARE YOU regulate their dietary needs.....


    Even though we're paying for it.....


    And most "Food Stamp" money just gets traded for alcohol, drugs, and cigarettes anyways.....


     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2018 - 9:32 PM ET #4

    The answers are not about repub vs dem...and actually dems are more inclined to support gluten free, non-gmo. Its your side of the aisle that are anti..

     

    But no that is not why..

    Can you really try and skip the partisan whining? Its easy...

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    The answers are not about repub vs dem...and actually dems are more inclined to support gluten free, non-gmo. Its your side of the aisle that are anti..

     

    But no that is not why..

    Can you really try and skip the partisan whining? Its easy...

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2018 - 9:37 PM ET #5

    Bring back the Government Cheese!    ...........
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2018 - 10:56 PM ET #6

    https://www.fns.usda.gov/pressrelease/2013/fns-001213

    Gotta go pee!
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    https://www.fns.usda.gov/pressrelease/2013/fns-001213

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2018 - 11:03 PM ET #7

         Stop the EBT cards and the State lotteries will dry-up..
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2018 - 12:50 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The answers are not about repub vs dem...and actually dems are more inclined to support gluten free, non-gmo. Its your side of the aisle that are anti..   But no that is not why.. Can you really try and skip the partisan whining? Its easy...

    Hey now, just for the record... I'm all gluten free, strictly paleo and organic if at all possible for years now...eat everything I kill...and I still can't stomach voting for "them"

    just sayinpeace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    The answers are not about repub vs dem...and actually dems are more inclined to support gluten free, non-gmo. Its your side of the aisle that are anti..   But no that is not why.. Can you really try and skip the partisan whining? Its easy...

    Hey now, just for the record... I'm all gluten free, strictly paleo and organic if at all possible for years now...eat everything I kill...and I still can't stomach voting for "them"

    just sayinpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2018 - 7:33 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: The answers are not about repub vs dem...and actually dems are more inclined to support gluten free, non-gmo. Its your side of the aisle that are anti..   But no that is not why.. Can you really try and skip the partisan whining? Its easy... Hey now, just for the record... I'm all gluten free, strictly paleo and organic if at all possible for years now...eat everything I kill...and I still can't stomach voting for "them" just sayin

    I was refuting his silly comment..but in general what I said is quite true as you have to admit.

    If you are having gut issues (gluten) how strong is your probiotic and enzyme intake? A few yrs ago I started properly taking both and it reversed severe problems I had with gluten and also proteins.

     

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: The answers are not about repub vs dem...and actually dems are more inclined to support gluten free, non-gmo. Its your side of the aisle that are anti..   But no that is not why.. Can you really try and skip the partisan whining? Its easy... Hey now, just for the record... I'm all gluten free, strictly paleo and organic if at all possible for years now...eat everything I kill...and I still can't stomach voting for "them" just sayin

    I was refuting his silly comment..but in general what I said is quite true as you have to admit.

    If you are having gut issues (gluten) how strong is your probiotic and enzyme intake? A few yrs ago I started properly taking both and it reversed severe problems I had with gluten and also proteins.

     

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2018 - 1:42 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC: QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: The answers are not about repub vs dem...and actually dems are more inclined to support gluten free, non-gmo. Its your side of the aisle that are anti..   But no that is not why.. Can you really try and skip the partisan whining? Its easy... Hey now, just for the record... I'm all gluten free, strictly paleo and organic if at all possible for years now...eat everything I kill...and I still can't stomach voting for "them" just sayin I was refuting his silly comment..but in general what I said is quite true as you have to admit. If you are having gut issues (gluten) how strong is your probiotic and enzyme intake? A few yrs ago I started properly taking both and it reversed severe problems I had with gluten and also proteins.

    When I first started out a few years ago, I took a probiotic(Primal Probiotics) twice a day and supplemented with enyzmes before the meal and some HCL post meal, for help with digesting all the protein. Put a lot of empahsis on prebiotic foods as well. still take a daily probiotic.

    My gut was wrecked after a course of strong anibiotics, follwed by a back injury that put me on a cycle of prednisone....both just awful for gut health. 

    rough time for sure, but the road back to health got me educated about what I put in my body and feeling great, made a lifetime of moderate eczema disappear as well..very glad it happened to me looking back.  It's really a lifestyle now, more than a diet.  Imagine the effects on our health care system if this kind of stuff was mainstream.peace_5

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    QUOTE Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC: QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: The answers are not about repub vs dem...and actually dems are more inclined to support gluten free, non-gmo. Its your side of the aisle that are anti..   But no that is not why.. Can you really try and skip the partisan whining? Its easy... Hey now, just for the record... I'm all gluten free, strictly paleo and organic if at all possible for years now...eat everything I kill...and I still can't stomach voting for "them" just sayin I was refuting his silly comment..but in general what I said is quite true as you have to admit. If you are having gut issues (gluten) how strong is your probiotic and enzyme intake? A few yrs ago I started properly taking both and it reversed severe problems I had with gluten and also proteins.

    When I first started out a few years ago, I took a probiotic(Primal Probiotics) twice a day and supplemented with enyzmes before the meal and some HCL post meal, for help with digesting all the protein. Put a lot of empahsis on prebiotic foods as well. still take a daily probiotic.

    My gut was wrecked after a course of strong anibiotics, follwed by a back injury that put me on a cycle of prednisone....both just awful for gut health. 

    rough time for sure, but the road back to health got me educated about what I put in my body and feeling great, made a lifetime of moderate eczema disappear as well..very glad it happened to me looking back.  It's really a lifestyle now, more than a diet.  Imagine the effects on our health care system if this kind of stuff was mainstream.peace_5

     
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    So did you see any benefit from taking the pre/pro and enzymes with regards to the gluten/celiac issues?

    I know the gluten issues are more than digestion but I really wonder what percentage of the population if they started and maintained a solid enzyme/probiotic/pre regimine what percent would not need script drugs or to completely remove the items from their diet? I know that our digestive systems are not meant to break down gluten or cows milk and other things but I think people are misdiagnosed because it is fast and makes money to tell them to take a drug for their issues.

    You are right about antibiotics, I do all I can to not take if there is any way possible to avoid.

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    So did you see any benefit from taking the pre/pro and enzymes with regards to the gluten/celiac issues?

    I know the gluten issues are more than digestion but I really wonder what percentage of the population if they started and maintained a solid enzyme/probiotic/pre regimine what percent would not need script drugs or to completely remove the items from their diet? I know that our digestive systems are not meant to break down gluten or cows milk and other things but I think people are misdiagnosed because it is fast and makes money to tell them to take a drug for their issues.

    You are right about antibiotics, I do all I can to not take if there is any way possible to avoid.

     
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    I'm not celiac thankfully, but I have a substantial intolerance to it. I did a 30 day elimination diet on two seperate occasions, to confirm for myself. Both times after I reintroduced it to my diet, I was in the bathroom shortly thereafter. then I got tested to be sure...https://www.cyrexlabs.com/CyrexTestsArrays   these guys are legit and recomended by most in functional medicine industry.

    The enzymes and the HCL supps really helped my stomach with the transition to the diet, the increase in vegetables specifically, and the protein increase, it was foreign to my body, so the supps really helped yes. ...I was in rough shape, leaky gut, constant gas, and reflux was awful. I would recomend all these supps to people, even mild cases.  It took some time, gut health doesn't happen overnight, but eventually it worked wonders. I was lucky though, my wife is in medical field and got in my head about all this rather than ship me off to a Dr. and their prescription pad. 

    What we got in America right now is disease care, not health care. We treat symptoms (profitably) and do nothing to address the cause or the why. As an example, All those different meds for acid reflux you see on TV? They actually make things worse, and basically force the patient to take them for the rest of their life.  Alzheimers is not a normal part of aging and is on the increase. Diabetes, Crohn's, etc.  All chronic illnesses that in most cases could be prevented or made very rare. 

    We poison ourselves, slowly. Industrial seed oils are in everything. Some household products and grooming items we use have toxins in them. Yet allowed to be sold to us. 

    It all adds up. As seen with the health care debacle in this country. peace_5

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    I'm not celiac thankfully, but I have a substantial intolerance to it. I did a 30 day elimination diet on two seperate occasions, to confirm for myself. Both times after I reintroduced it to my diet, I was in the bathroom shortly thereafter. then I got tested to be sure...https://www.cyrexlabs.com/CyrexTestsArrays   these guys are legit and recomended by most in functional medicine industry.

    The enzymes and the HCL supps really helped my stomach with the transition to the diet, the increase in vegetables specifically, and the protein increase, it was foreign to my body, so the supps really helped yes. ...I was in rough shape, leaky gut, constant gas, and reflux was awful. I would recomend all these supps to people, even mild cases.  It took some time, gut health doesn't happen overnight, but eventually it worked wonders. I was lucky though, my wife is in medical field and got in my head about all this rather than ship me off to a Dr. and their prescription pad. 

    What we got in America right now is disease care, not health care. We treat symptoms (profitably) and do nothing to address the cause or the why. As an example, All those different meds for acid reflux you see on TV? They actually make things worse, and basically force the patient to take them for the rest of their life.  Alzheimers is not a normal part of aging and is on the increase. Diabetes, Crohn's, etc.  All chronic illnesses that in most cases could be prevented or made very rare. 

    We poison ourselves, slowly. Industrial seed oils are in everything. Some household products and grooming items we use have toxins in them. Yet allowed to be sold to us. 

    It all adds up. As seen with the health care debacle in this country. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2018 - 7:13 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I was refuting his silly comment..but in general what I said is quite true as you have to admit.

     


    I'm assuming you're an employed taxpaying American (if not, then the discussion stops here)

    But.....

    If you're an employed taxpaying American, why would you be against this program? Saving taxpayer money? Eliminating abuse of a program that was originally designed to help people? If it's simply because Trump brought it up, and you're on your Liberal snowflake MSM high-horse, then, you may need to take a good long look in the mirror.....

    Like I said in the OP - if you REALLY need the food staples for you and your precious children to live, then they will be delivered to your house, free of charge. What other country even offers something remotely close to that? You don't even have to try to take the bus to the local market and "shop" and then worry about carrying bags home, bus transfers in a "rough" neighborhood, etc., etc., etc.....

    You and your family qualify for a certain amount of food staples per week/month/whatever, and your allotment shows up on your doorstep 3 days later - BING, BANG, BOOM.....


    No more EBT/SNAP/Food Stamps that get traded for drugs & alcohol - you're getting FOOD - - DELIVERED TO YOUR DOOR


    Not sure how else to explain it, or what your "issues" could possibly be.....


    Thank you.....


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    I was refuting his silly comment..but in general what I said is quite true as you have to admit.

     


    I'm assuming you're an employed taxpaying American (if not, then the discussion stops here)

    But.....

    If you're an employed taxpaying American, why would you be against this program? Saving taxpayer money? Eliminating abuse of a program that was originally designed to help people? If it's simply because Trump brought it up, and you're on your Liberal snowflake MSM high-horse, then, you may need to take a good long look in the mirror.....

    Like I said in the OP - if you REALLY need the food staples for you and your precious children to live, then they will be delivered to your house, free of charge. What other country even offers something remotely close to that? You don't even have to try to take the bus to the local market and "shop" and then worry about carrying bags home, bus transfers in a "rough" neighborhood, etc., etc., etc.....

    You and your family qualify for a certain amount of food staples per week/month/whatever, and your allotment shows up on your doorstep 3 days later - BING, BANG, BOOM.....


    No more EBT/SNAP/Food Stamps that get traded for drugs & alcohol - you're getting FOOD - - DELIVERED TO YOUR DOOR


    Not sure how else to explain it, or what your "issues" could possibly be.....


    Thank you.....


     
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    as for the original topic, I see nothing wrong with this. But of course those who receive the help probably won't.  Which is why the dems will fight it. 

    It's kinda like how I'd support amnesty for almost all law abiding illegals here, as long as they have to wait 25 years to vote. 

    You'd think the dems would jump at this, since they care sooooo much for these people. Nope they wouldn't. Doesn't serve their interest in the least. amirite?

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    as for the original topic, I see nothing wrong with this. But of course those who receive the help probably won't.  Which is why the dems will fight it. 

    It's kinda like how I'd support amnesty for almost all law abiding illegals here, as long as they have to wait 25 years to vote. 

    You'd think the dems would jump at this, since they care sooooo much for these people. Nope they wouldn't. Doesn't serve their interest in the least. amirite?

     
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    Its a terrible idea because the cost to put this in place is too high, the maintenance is too much and forcing people to take what is given wont be well received. Instead of this big pile of politics I'd prefer what happens in some states that use WIC...there is a LIST of items people can purchase and that is the ONLY things allowed...why not just program the card to work for only certain skews and no other. 

    Many years ago...way way too many I was a checker at a grocery store, very very very young...and we would only be able to scan certain items and certain brands only...usually generic and it had to be the item in question and it was all healthy.

    Instead of this box silly crap just reduce what is allowed?

    Oh and why it wont go down, you think companies like Pepsi and Coke and P&G are just going to sit there and allow this to happen?

     

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    Its a terrible idea because the cost to put this in place is too high, the maintenance is too much and forcing people to take what is given wont be well received. Instead of this big pile of politics I'd prefer what happens in some states that use WIC...there is a LIST of items people can purchase and that is the ONLY things allowed...why not just program the card to work for only certain skews and no other. 

    Many years ago...way way too many I was a checker at a grocery store, very very very young...and we would only be able to scan certain items and certain brands only...usually generic and it had to be the item in question and it was all healthy.

    Instead of this box silly crap just reduce what is allowed?

    Oh and why it wont go down, you think companies like Pepsi and Coke and P&G are just going to sit there and allow this to happen?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Its a terrible idea because the cost to put this in place is too high, the maintenance is too much and forcing people to take what is given wont be well received. Instead of this big pile of politics I'd prefer what happens in some states that use WIC...there is a LIST of items people can purchase and that is the ONLY things allowed...why not just program the card to work for only certain skews and no other.  Many years ago...way way too many I was a checker at a grocery store, very very very young...and we would only be able to scan certain items and certain brands only...usually generic and it had to be the item in question and it was all healthy. Instead of this box silly crap just reduce what is allowed? Oh and why it wont go down, you think companies like Pepsi and Coke and P&G are just going to sit there and allow this to happen?
    Aw, c'mon wall, you know it will be great. You will have folks on the street corners selling the foods at a discount to buy alcohol and tobacco. All kinds of new scams will develop. The poor can eat at charity kitchens and sell everything; which, by the way, will be delivered to their doors by Trump supporters company. Shades of Halliburton if any of you know what I am referring to. This could give a whole new meaning to the word boondoggle. 

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    Its a terrible idea because the cost to put this in place is too high, the maintenance is too much and forcing people to take what is given wont be well received. Instead of this big pile of politics I'd prefer what happens in some states that use WIC...there is a LIST of items people can purchase and that is the ONLY things allowed...why not just program the card to work for only certain skews and no other.  Many years ago...way way too many I was a checker at a grocery store, very very very young...and we would only be able to scan certain items and certain brands only...usually generic and it had to be the item in question and it was all healthy. Instead of this box silly crap just reduce what is allowed? Oh and why it wont go down, you think companies like Pepsi and Coke and P&G are just going to sit there and allow this to happen?
    Aw, c'mon wall, you know it will be great. You will have folks on the street corners selling the foods at a discount to buy alcohol and tobacco. All kinds of new scams will develop. The poor can eat at charity kitchens and sell everything; which, by the way, will be delivered to their doors by Trump supporters company. Shades of Halliburton if any of you know what I am referring to. This could give a whole new meaning to the word boondoggle. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Its a terrible idea because the cost to put this in place is too high, the maintenance is too much and forcing people to take what is given wont be well received. Instead of this big pile of politics I'd prefer what happens in some states that use WIC...there is a LIST of items people can purchase and that is the ONLY things allowed...why not just program the card to work for only certain skews and no other.  Many years ago...way way too many I was a checker at a grocery store, very very very young...and we would only be able to scan certain items and certain brands only...usually generic and it had to be the item in question and it was all healthy. Instead of this box silly crap just reduce what is allowed? Oh and why it wont go down, you think companies like Pepsi and Coke and P&G are just going to sit there and allow this to happen? Aw, c'mon wall, you know it will be great. You will have folks on the street corners selling the foods at a discount to buy alcohol and tobacco. All kinds of new scams will develop. The poor can eat at charity kitchens and sell everything; which, by the way, will be delivered to their doors by Trump supporters company. Shades of Halliburton if any of you know what I am referring to. This could give a whole new meaning to the word boondoggle.

    Makes you wonder if any real thought goes on before king blabber mouth comes out with another hairbrained half baked idea. The whole premise is moronic and pure Washington garbage. And to think that the dope actually used to sit on his golden throne and bash the crap out of politicians for such stupidity and he ends up being worse than all of them.

    Trump is such a phony..

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    QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Its a terrible idea because the cost to put this in place is too high, the maintenance is too much and forcing people to take what is given wont be well received. Instead of this big pile of politics I'd prefer what happens in some states that use WIC...there is a LIST of items people can purchase and that is the ONLY things allowed...why not just program the card to work for only certain skews and no other.  Many years ago...way way too many I was a checker at a grocery store, very very very young...and we would only be able to scan certain items and certain brands only...usually generic and it had to be the item in question and it was all healthy. Instead of this box silly crap just reduce what is allowed? Oh and why it wont go down, you think companies like Pepsi and Coke and P&G are just going to sit there and allow this to happen? Aw, c'mon wall, you know it will be great. You will have folks on the street corners selling the foods at a discount to buy alcohol and tobacco. All kinds of new scams will develop. The poor can eat at charity kitchens and sell everything; which, by the way, will be delivered to their doors by Trump supporters company. Shades of Halliburton if any of you know what I am referring to. This could give a whole new meaning to the word boondoggle.

    Makes you wonder if any real thought goes on before king blabber mouth comes out with another hairbrained half baked idea. The whole premise is moronic and pure Washington garbage. And to think that the dope actually used to sit on his golden throne and bash the crap out of politicians for such stupidity and he ends up being worse than all of them.

    Trump is such a phony..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:

    ....And most "Food Stamp" money just gets traded for alcohol, drugs, and cigarettes anyways.....

     

    Myth is that food stamps are used to buy alcohol, drugs and cigarettes according to truthorfiction.  Actually, food stamp fraud is rare and government guidelines limit what can be purchased. 

    Wallstreetcapper is right.  Trump's proposal would replace a system that is working to a risky system that increases bureaucracy and food waste.  Government isn't better in choosing food for your family than you are.  A similar government program "commodity supplemental food " is hard to administer.  Besides, distributing boxes of food to millions would be an inefficient logistical nightmare. 

    According to USDA economic research, every dollar in SNAP benefits generates $1.80 in the economy which is among the most effective way to boost jobs and economic growth.  Also dividends in improving public health and reducing poverty according to Urban institute.

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    ....And most "Food Stamp" money just gets traded for alcohol, drugs, and cigarettes anyways.....

     

    Myth is that food stamps are used to buy alcohol, drugs and cigarettes according to truthorfiction.  Actually, food stamp fraud is rare and government guidelines limit what can be purchased. 

    Wallstreetcapper is right.  Trump's proposal would replace a system that is working to a risky system that increases bureaucracy and food waste.  Government isn't better in choosing food for your family than you are.  A similar government program "commodity supplemental food " is hard to administer.  Besides, distributing boxes of food to millions would be an inefficient logistical nightmare. 

    According to USDA economic research, every dollar in SNAP benefits generates $1.80 in the economy which is among the most effective way to boost jobs and economic growth.  Also dividends in improving public health and reducing poverty according to Urban institute.

     
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    Typical Republican nut job rhetoric 

    = ABORTIONS kill innocent children

    = F#ck that 2yr old and her siblings they can starve to death 
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    = ABORTIONS kill innocent children

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Myth is that food stamps are used to buy alcohol, drugs and cigarettes according to truthorfiction.  Actually, food stamp fraud is rare and government guidelines limit what can be purchased. 

    Wallstreetcapper is right.  Trump's proposal would replace a system that is working to a risky system that increases bureaucracy and food waste.  Government isn't better in choosing food for your family than you are.  A similar government program "commodity supplemental food " is hard to administer.  Besides, distributing boxes of food to millions would be an inefficient logistical nightmare. 

    According to USDA economic research, every dollar in SNAP benefits generates $1.80 in the economy which is among the most effective way to boost jobs and economic growth.  Also dividends in improving public health and reducing poverty according to Urban institute.


    Sorry 3rd but...you could NOT be more INCORRECT and yes..EBT cards "do boost" the economy but I'd love our stalwart posters to detail a more FAIR Welfare food providing program that eliminates all the fraudulent waste that is rampant with mailing out free gifts from Santa...

    I know for a fact, an associate of mine traded her EBT card for tires for her car that also needed repairs....When I asked her what about food for her and her kid..she replied "I'm just going to that office and  tell them I lost my card and I NEED a new one..".. 

    Absolutely the TRUTH...some folks know how to USE any Government system, program, and handout to their FULLEST benefit....Santa baby....I need that FREE  Obama phone....

    Poor people ain't stupid...just look at all the street corner beggars..same EXACT place every day...Always with their sad face making one feel guilty into rolling down window handing them  $$....All to support their bad habits resulting from their poor decisions which got them there in the first place..

    It's all about our OWN personal choices..
     
    The majority of all the rules and laws are made for the 5-10% who can't behave or act like normal, responsible, free loving Americans pursuing Life, Liberty and Happiness....

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    Myth is that food stamps are used to buy alcohol, drugs and cigarettes according to truthorfiction.  Actually, food stamp fraud is rare and government guidelines limit what can be purchased. 

    Wallstreetcapper is right.  Trump's proposal would replace a system that is working to a risky system that increases bureaucracy and food waste.  Government isn't better in choosing food for your family than you are.  A similar government program "commodity supplemental food " is hard to administer.  Besides, distributing boxes of food to millions would be an inefficient logistical nightmare. 

    According to USDA economic research, every dollar in SNAP benefits generates $1.80 in the economy which is among the most effective way to boost jobs and economic growth.  Also dividends in improving public health and reducing poverty according to Urban institute.


    Sorry 3rd but...you could NOT be more INCORRECT and yes..EBT cards "do boost" the economy but I'd love our stalwart posters to detail a more FAIR Welfare food providing program that eliminates all the fraudulent waste that is rampant with mailing out free gifts from Santa...

    I know for a fact, an associate of mine traded her EBT card for tires for her car that also needed repairs....When I asked her what about food for her and her kid..she replied "I'm just going to that office and  tell them I lost my card and I NEED a new one..".. 

    Absolutely the TRUTH...some folks know how to USE any Government system, program, and handout to their FULLEST benefit....Santa baby....I need that FREE  Obama phone....

    Poor people ain't stupid...just look at all the street corner beggars..same EXACT place every day...Always with their sad face making one feel guilty into rolling down window handing them  $$....All to support their bad habits resulting from their poor decisions which got them there in the first place..

    It's all about our OWN personal choices..
     
    The majority of all the rules and laws are made for the 5-10% who can't behave or act like normal, responsible, free loving Americans pursuing Life, Liberty and Happiness....

    Carry on.....


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Makes you wonder if any real thought goes on before king blabber mouth comes out with another hairbrained half baked idea. The whole premise is moronic and pure Washington garbage. And to think that the dope actually used to sit on his golden throne and bash the crap out of politicians for such stupidity and he ends up being worse than all of them.

    Trump is such a phony..



    First off, the fact that you "went there" with the name calling completely nullifies your response.....
    Thought you were better than that, I guess not.....
    Just because it's Trump that comes up with an idea, doesn't "necessarily" make it "hair-brained", "moronic", or "half-baked".....

    Anyways.....

    First off, go look it up:

    https://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap

    Currently, we're talking an annual amount of "about" 44 million people, at a TAXPAYER cost of "about" 70 BILLION..... I'm no mathematician - but is that about $1,700 per person, per year? I think we can do better than that.....
    And, that's not including all the fraud, because it's basically a "credit card" you swipe now. That also takes away the societal "shaming" part that used to come along with "stamps" being a little bit of your dignity being removed for being on this program - it's not "stamps" anymore, simply a "credit card". Plus, we've all been behind the "Poor desolate woman with 5 kids by 4 different fathers" (yeah, right) in line that's buying steak, lobster, alcohol, and cigarettes, and - oh, by the way - put this half of this grocery bill on my EBT card.....

    Once again.....


    If that's the case, then, YOU DON'T NEED THE EBT.....

    I personally would like to take Trump's proposition even further - to here's what you get delivered:
    powdered eggs, powdered milk, generic cans of tuna, generic peanut butter, generic guy, flour, salt, staples, etc. Heck, how about even M.R.E.'s - good enough for our heroes in the military, then MORE than good enough for your freeloading A$$.....

    Finally, if you don't like it, then:

    GET A FU##ING JOB AND STOP EXPECTING EVERYONE TO PAY FOR YOUR S#!T!!!!!!

    P.S. - @D.U.4L. - yes, I'm Conservative, but I'm 150% on board with abortions

    I despise that the Republican Party has to include some religious nutjob throwing a bible at you - - I say, abortions, abortions, and more abortions, late term abortion pill, whatever.....

     


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    Makes you wonder if any real thought goes on before king blabber mouth comes out with another hairbrained half baked idea. The whole premise is moronic and pure Washington garbage. And to think that the dope actually used to sit on his golden throne and bash the crap out of politicians for such stupidity and he ends up being worse than all of them.

    Trump is such a phony..



    First off, the fact that you "went there" with the name calling completely nullifies your response.....
    Thought you were better than that, I guess not.....
    Just because it's Trump that comes up with an idea, doesn't "necessarily" make it "hair-brained", "moronic", or "half-baked".....

    Anyways.....

    First off, go look it up:

    https://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap

    Currently, we're talking an annual amount of "about" 44 million people, at a TAXPAYER cost of "about" 70 BILLION..... I'm no mathematician - but is that about $1,700 per person, per year? I think we can do better than that.....
    And, that's not including all the fraud, because it's basically a "credit card" you swipe now. That also takes away the societal "shaming" part that used to come along with "stamps" being a little bit of your dignity being removed for being on this program - it's not "stamps" anymore, simply a "credit card". Plus, we've all been behind the "Poor desolate woman with 5 kids by 4 different fathers" (yeah, right) in line that's buying steak, lobster, alcohol, and cigarettes, and - oh, by the way - put this half of this grocery bill on my EBT card.....

    Once again.....


    If that's the case, then, YOU DON'T NEED THE EBT.....

    I personally would like to take Trump's proposition even further - to here's what you get delivered:
    powdered eggs, powdered milk, generic cans of tuna, generic peanut butter, generic guy, flour, salt, staples, etc. Heck, how about even M.R.E.'s - good enough for our heroes in the military, then MORE than good enough for your freeloading A$$.....

    Finally, if you don't like it, then:

    GET A FU##ING JOB AND STOP EXPECTING EVERYONE TO PAY FOR YOUR S#!T!!!!!!

    P.S. - @D.U.4L. - yes, I'm Conservative, but I'm 150% on board with abortions

    I despise that the Republican Party has to include some religious nutjob throwing a bible at you - - I say, abortions, abortions, and more abortions, late term abortion pill, whatever.....

     


     
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    Trump brings all this on himself, he treats people like garbage and his ego is so small he cannot stop his mouth from running, thus he gets what he gets with regards to my views on the schmuck.

     

    I guess you didnt read what I proposed...reduce the number of items allowed to be purchased, there is no need to create some monster box mess that will add costs and waste, that does not solve anything and is inefficient. Just reduce the items able to be purchased to high nutritional necessities, THAT is your solution.

    Unfortunately there is no solution for the joke that Trump is and I find it SUPER odd how more and more and more women are coming out to say he is a cheating scum and yet nothing...if this happened with Obama holy crap there would be 10 threads about it mere minutes after the news broke. Trump hid many many many women, he is a really disgusting example to this country.

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    Trump brings all this on himself, he treats people like garbage and his ego is so small he cannot stop his mouth from running, thus he gets what he gets with regards to my views on the schmuck.

     

    I guess you didnt read what I proposed...reduce the number of items allowed to be purchased, there is no need to create some monster box mess that will add costs and waste, that does not solve anything and is inefficient. Just reduce the items able to be purchased to high nutritional necessities, THAT is your solution.

    Unfortunately there is no solution for the joke that Trump is and I find it SUPER odd how more and more and more women are coming out to say he is a cheating scum and yet nothing...if this happened with Obama holy crap there would be 10 threads about it mere minutes after the news broke. Trump hid many many many women, he is a really disgusting example to this country.

     
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    Food stamp fraud is very rare.  1% of recipients commit fraud according to thousands of investigations by US department of agriculture.  Fraud rate has decreased since paper vouchers are replaced by electronic cards. 

    SNAP program primarily helps temporarily the working poor with dependents such as children, elderly or disabled.  Government accountability office has praised SNAP program as a model of efficiency.  92% of funds go to intended recipients while 8% covers administrative costs.. Average benefit of under $150 monthly isn't much for food.  Just 6% of federal budget is spend on all welfare which is less than in other countries.
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    Food stamp fraud is very rare.  1% of recipients commit fraud according to thousands of investigations by US department of agriculture.  Fraud rate has decreased since paper vouchers are replaced by electronic cards. 

    SNAP program primarily helps temporarily the working poor with dependents such as children, elderly or disabled.  Government accountability office has praised SNAP program as a model of efficiency.  92% of funds go to intended recipients while 8% covers administrative costs.. Average benefit of under $150 monthly isn't much for food.  Just 6% of federal budget is spend on all welfare which is less than in other countries.
     
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    US has the most income inequality in the world.  Without food stamp program, poor Ameircans would be worse off.  SNAP is a effective cornerstone of US social safety net according to Center for budget and policy priorities.

    In the long term, SNAP is not growing faster than overall economy and thus not contributing to US fiscal problems.  Recent growth in SNAP is temporary and its share of GDP is expected to decline in coming years as economy recovers according to Congress budget office.
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    US has the most income inequality in the world.  Without food stamp program, poor Ameircans would be worse off.  SNAP is a effective cornerstone of US social safety net according to Center for budget and policy priorities.

    In the long term, SNAP is not growing faster than overall economy and thus not contributing to US fiscal problems.  Recent growth in SNAP is temporary and its share of GDP is expected to decline in coming years as economy recovers according to Congress budget office.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    US has the most income inequality in the world.  Without food stamp program, poor Ameircans would be worse off.  SNAP is a effective cornerstone of US social safety net according to Center for budget and policy priorities.

    In the long term, SNAP is not growing faster than overall economy and thus not contributing to US fiscal problems.  Recent growth in SNAP is temporary and its share of GDP is expected to decline in coming years as economy recovers according to Congress budget office.
    So?  We also have one of the highest obesity rates. And lead the way in activity inequality as well.  Many of the socialistic countries are back pedaling somewhat now on their social programs as well. 
    Gotta work and move around some instead of sitting around on food stamps maybe:

    Contrary to popular belief, the main findings of average steps in each country had little impact on obesity levels.

    Instead, activity inequality - dubbed the vast difference between the active and the non-active - was a more accurate reflection.

    The researchers told the BBC the bigger the gap between the two sets of people, the more obese people who lived in the country. 

    Tim Althoff, a PhD candidate in computer science who was involved in the research, said: 'For instance, Sweden had one of the smallest gaps between activity rich and activity poor... it also had one of the lowest rates of obesity.'

    His claims were backed by the findings, which showed the US and Mexico to have similar average step counts - but stark differences in activity inequality and obesity levels.  


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    US has the most income inequality in the world.  Without food stamp program, poor Ameircans would be worse off.  SNAP is a effective cornerstone of US social safety net according to Center for budget and policy priorities.

    In the long term, SNAP is not growing faster than overall economy and thus not contributing to US fiscal problems.  Recent growth in SNAP is temporary and its share of GDP is expected to decline in coming years as economy recovers according to Congress budget office.
    So?  We also have one of the highest obesity rates. And lead the way in activity inequality as well.  Many of the socialistic countries are back pedaling somewhat now on their social programs as well. 
    Gotta work and move around some instead of sitting around on food stamps maybe:

    Contrary to popular belief, the main findings of average steps in each country had little impact on obesity levels.

    Instead, activity inequality - dubbed the vast difference between the active and the non-active - was a more accurate reflection.

    The researchers told the BBC the bigger the gap between the two sets of people, the more obese people who lived in the country. 

    Tim Althoff, a PhD candidate in computer science who was involved in the research, said: 'For instance, Sweden had one of the smallest gaps between activity rich and activity poor... it also had one of the lowest rates of obesity.'

    His claims were backed by the findings, which showed the US and Mexico to have similar average step counts - but stark differences in activity inequality and obesity levels.  


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