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Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey ranks Biden #14!! ...Obama #7 ...GWBush #32 ...Trump ranks DEAD LAST!

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A distinguished professor of history at American University, Allan Lichtman has correctly predicted the outcome of nine elections out of the 10 most recent presidential races, using a model he invented known as the 13 keys. He predicts Dems win the White House this election

Harris has secured 8 keys.  No primary contest. No third party.  Strong short term economy.  Strong long term economy.  Major policy change.  No social unrest.  No scandal.  Uncharismatic challenger.  However 5 keys favor Trump.  No midterm gains in congress. No incumbent seeking re-election.  Foreign or military failure.  No foreign or military success.  No charismatic incumbent.  Overall, Harris has enough keys to win.

 
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 Strong short term economy.  Strong long term economy.  Major policy change.  No social unrest. 

 

"so far" as they say...  an_light

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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A distinguished professor of history at American University, Allan Lichtman has correctly predicted the outcome of nine elections out of the 10 most recent presidential races, using a model he invented known as the 13 keys. He predicts Dems win the White House this election

 

 

an_light Harris has secured 8 keys.  No primary contest. No third party.  Strong short term economy.  Strong long term economy.  Major policy change.  No social unrest.  No scandal.  Uncharismatic challenger. 

However 5 keys favor [the CONVICTED FELON].  No midterm gains in congress. No incumbent seeking re-election.  Foreign or military failure.  No foreign or military success.  No charismatic incumbent.  an_lightOverall, Harris has enough keys to win.

@thirdperson

Good news for Americans who prefer Democracy & Freedom over pseudo-FASCISM.

an_cheers

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A distinguished professor of history at American University, Allan Lichtman has correctly predicted the outcome of nine elections out of the 10 most recent presidential races, using a model he invented known as the 13 keys. He predicts Dems win the White House this election     Harris has secured 8 keys.  No primary contest. No third party.  Strong short term economy.  Strong long term economy.  Major policy change.  No social unrest.  No scandal.  Uncharismatic challenger.  However 5 keys favor [the CONVICTED FELON].  No midterm gains in congress. No incumbent seeking re-election.  Foreign or military failure.  No foreign or military success.  No charismatic incumbent.  Overall, Harris has enough keys to win. @thirdperson Good news for Americans who prefer Democracy & Freedom over pseudo-FASCISM.

But not having one vote cast for her, is that really democracy?confused

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey  

 

an_light *RATINGS SCORES* for bottom 4 of last 10 presidents (all are GOP!) paint_help

 

46.09  Gerald Ford
40.43  George W. Bush
36.41  Richard Nixon

 

   ~ huge gap ~


10.92  trump "the CONVICTED FELON"

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A distinguished professor of history at American University, Allan Lichtman has correctly predicted the outcome of nine elections out of the 10 most recent presidential races, using a model he invented known as the 13 keys. He predicts Dems win the White House this election     Harris has secured 8 keys.  No primary contest. No third party.  Strong short term economy.  Strong long term economy.  Major policy change.  No social unrest.  No scandal.  Uncharismatic challenger.  However 5 keys favor [the CONVICTED FELON].  No midterm gains in congress. No incumbent seeking re-election.  Foreign or military failure.  No foreign or military success.  No charismatic incumbent.  Overall, Harris has enough keys to win. @thirdperson Good news for Americans who prefer Democracy & Freedom over pseudo-FASCISM. But not having one vote cast for her, is that really democracy?
She had a vote cast for her...the nod from the Democrat party to be their nominee...and another vote to leave California and be part of the Federal government initiative...

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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: A distinguished professor of history at American University, Allan Lichtman has correctly predicted the outcome of nine elections out of the 10 most recent presidential races, using a model he invented known as the 13 keys. He predicts Dems win the White House this election Harris has secured 8 keys.  No primary contest. No third party.  Strong short term economy.  Strong long term economy.  Major policy change.  No social unrest.  No scandal.  Uncharismatic challenger.  However 5 keys favor Trump.  No midterm gains in congress. No incumbent seeking re-election.  Foreign or military failure.  No foreign or military success.  No charismatic incumbent.  Overall, Harris has enough keys to win.

And that may increase yet... peace_5

 
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Harris is the new Weezy from The Jefferson's...well we're movin' on up...that should be her campaign slogan....or she could go with: If I paid you to think, you could cash your check at the penny arcade...she could use the Don and say: If we paid Trump to think, he could cash his check at the penny arcade....or something to that effect...

She could also go with: fish don't fry in the kitchen; beans don't burn on the grill, took a whole lot of tryin'; just to get up that hill; now we're up in the big leagues; gettin our turn at bat....

 

mix a few tidbits around and throw in Trump and some other big fish story lingos and you got yourself a winning campaign slogan....

 

Endorsed by Tom Willis and you got your bases covered....

 

This is a tremendous opportunity here to capitalize...

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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: HARRIS re-energizes party in fight against pro-fascism!   CNN - "the most trusted name in news!"   The top two congressional Democrats,Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumerand House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries,endorsed Harris at a news conference Tuesday,joining a cascade of Democratic lawmakersand governors who have announced their support.  “Now that the process has played out fromthe grassroots, bottom-up, we are here todayto throw our support behind” Harris, Schumer said. @fubah2   Good news quick to come. This campaign is well funded already and plenty of time left

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And surging as we speak!  Already more than double what the CONVICTED FELON raised over the same period of time.

 

 

 
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#14 ranked US president

 

CNN —

On a call with political appointees across agencies
Wednesday afternoon, White House chief of staff
Jeff Zients laid out four main pillars for Biden’s team
to execute over the final 5 months:


  •  the continued implementation of key legislation;

  •  lowering costs and growing the economy through additional moves on student debt relief and efforts to bring down prescription drug prices;

  •  defending personal freedoms and civil rights by calling out hate and extremism;

  •  ensuring US strength, security and leadership in the world

 
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an_roll_laugh

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

 #14 ranked President of all time!

CNN —

On a call with political appointees across agencies
Wednesday afternoon, White House chief of staff
Jeff Zients laid out four main pillars for Biden’s team
to execute over the final 5 months:


  •  the continued implementation of key legislation;

  •  lowering costs and growing the economy through additional moves on student debt relief and efforts to bring down prescription drug prices;

  •  defending personal freedoms and civil rights by calling out hate and extremism;

  •  ensuring US strength, security and leadership in the world

 

Of course this remains a joint effort in the WH including Kamala Harris even while on her democracy & freedom campaign

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:  #14 ranked President of all time! CNN — On a call with political appointees across agencies Wednesday afternoon, White House chief of staff Jeff Zients laid out four main pillars for Biden’s team to execute over the final 5 months:   •  the continued implementation of key legislation;   •  lowering costs and growing the economy through additional moves on student debt relief and efforts to bring down prescription drug prices;   •  defending personal freedoms and civil rights by calling out hate and extremism;   •  ensuring US strength, security and leadership in the world   Of course this remains a joint effort in the WH including Kamala Harris even while on her democracy & freedom campaign

On the fourth point, national security adviser Jake Sullivan suggested Biden would keep a busy schedule in international matters:

“You can expect to see very busy months of activity,
of summits and trips to ensure that we do everything
we can to leave it on the field,” Sullivan said, adding
that there would be “high-level summits both here and abroad.”

 
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 You can quote "experts" all you want. There are experts to support any angle you want. But the people who lived it will remember this as the worst admin. of their lives.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

You can quote "experts" all you want. There are experts to support any angle you want. But the people who lived it will remember this as the worst admin. of their lives.

Best time to judge presidents is years after they leave office.  Future generations have knowledge that past generations lack.  For example, Lincoln was unpopular during civil war but later recognized as among the best presidents.  Most historians already ranked Trump as the worst president in modern era.  Biden might be among the best one term presidents.

 
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How many years after would you say that one really has a good idea on how to rank?

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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

You can quote "experts" all you want. There are experts to support any angle you want. But the people who lived it will remember this as the worst admin. of their lives.

an_roll_laugh

 
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DEBATE?

 

After stating emphatically that he would agree to debate Harris only moderated by FOX NEWS and with a full audience OR NO DEBATE AT ALL,

today word that the CONVICTED FELON has relented and agreed to a Sept 10 debate - 8 days before he is sentenced after being found guilty by a jury of FELONY fraud - which more or less defines his entire adult life.

 

Debate details yet to come...

 
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DEBATE?   After stating emphatically that he would agree to debate Harris only moderated by FOX NEWS and with a full audience OR NO DEBATE AT ALL, today word that the CONVICTED FELON has relented and agreed to a Sept 10 debate - 8 days before he is sentenced after being found guilty by a jury of FELONY fraud - which more or less defines his entire adult life.   Debate details yet to come...

So Trump lied again!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

DEBATE?   After stating emphatically that he would agree to debate Harris only moderated by FOX NEWS and with a full audience OR NO DEBATE AT ALL, today word that the CONVICTED FELON has relented and agreed to a Sept 10 debate - 8 days before he is sentenced after being found guilty by a jury of FELONY fraud - which more or less defines his entire adult life.   Debate details yet to come...

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Debate still going as scheduled as far as we know but I read where the sentencing of the convicted republican criminal just might be postponed again.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: DEBATE?   After stating emphatically that he would agree to debate Harris only moderated by FOX NEWS and with a full audience OR NO DEBATE AT ALL, today word that the CONVICTED FELON has relented and agreed to a Sept 10 debate - 8 days before he is sentenced after being found guilty by a jury of FELONY fraud - which more or less defines his entire adult life.   Debate details yet to come...

@fubah2 Debate still going as scheduled as far as we know but I read where the sentencing of the convicted republican criminal just might be postponed again.

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Actually the debate may have have much more of an impact, since unlike trial news and RW skepticism, it will be watched by both sides and the MAGAs will not be able to escape with blissful ignorance.

 

 
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an_speak   The TOP 15 US Presidents in the
Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings:

 

**Numerical scoring totals as rated by 154 experts

93.87   Lincoln
90.83   FDR
90.32   Washington

78.58   T.Roosevelt
77.53   Jefferson
75.34   Truman
73.80   President Barack Obama!!!
73.73   Eisenhower
72.86   LBJ
68.37   Kennedy
67.16   Madison
66.42   President Bill Clinton!!!
62.66   J Adams
62.66   President Joe Biden!!!
61.80   Wilson

 

*Note #1: no republican president from my adult lifetime achieved the top 15...but 3 Democrats did!

                         (Reagan barely missed the cut at 61.62)

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

@Zeus4par Actually the debate may have have much more of an impact, since unlike trial news and RW skepticism, it will be watched by both sides and the MAGAs will not be able to escape with blissful ignorance.

Then we are about to find out Tuesday night 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

The TOP 15 US Presidents in the Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings:   **Numerical scoring totals as rated by 154 experts 93.87   Lincoln 90.83   FDR90.32   Washington 78.58   T.Roosevelt77.53   Jefferson75.34   Truman73.80   President Barack Obama!!! 73.73   Eisenhower72.86   LBJ68.37   Kennedy67.16   Madison66.42   President Bill Clinton!!! 62.66   J Adams62.66   President Joe Biden!!! 61.80   Wilson   *Note #1: no republican president from my adult lifetime achieved the top 15...but 3 Democrats did!                          (Reagan barely missed the cut at 61.62)

Joe Biden is 14th!  an_cheers

 
 
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The TOP 15 US Presidents in the Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings: 

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