why does someone down on their luck have a right to the earnings of others?
what moral right does a corn grower have to my money?
i thought it was wrong for a person to benefit at the expense of another?
helping people should be a voluntary act free of gubmint coercion
Well, we've had progressive tax rates for many decades & for those who don't think high top tier tax rates are fair, you must have hated the modern repub prez's/admin. Since Eisenhower, the top rate has averaged over 50% during the years of Ike, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush1 & Bush2 with St Ronnie's top rate being 50% for the vast majority of his yrs as prez. I guess those guys must have been huge socialists & wealth redistributors, lol. Whereas Obama has only proposed going back to the 39.6% we had under Clinton only on earnings over $250K which means that rate doesn't kick in til $357K with everything under being taxed at between 10% & 30%.
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Quote Originally Posted by rooster010:
there is a moral issue to raising taxes
why does someone down on their luck have a right to the earnings of others?
what moral right does a corn grower have to my money?
i thought it was wrong for a person to benefit at the expense of another?
helping people should be a voluntary act free of gubmint coercion
Well, we've had progressive tax rates for many decades & for those who don't think high top tier tax rates are fair, you must have hated the modern repub prez's/admin. Since Eisenhower, the top rate has averaged over 50% during the years of Ike, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush1 & Bush2 with St Ronnie's top rate being 50% for the vast majority of his yrs as prez. I guess those guys must have been huge socialists & wealth redistributors, lol. Whereas Obama has only proposed going back to the 39.6% we had under Clinton only on earnings over $250K which means that rate doesn't kick in til $357K with everything under being taxed at between 10% & 30%.
i also find him entertaining and not combative in the least
it is curious why the luckylogan gets a free pass and is much more combative, along with homophobic slurs and racial rants
i guess 14daroad is only annoying you because he supports many of his views with facts, links, and thoughtful analysis
luckylogan, who never provides any thought provoking insight, he just spews hateful rhetoric
but he gets a free pass because his thoughts align with yours?
selective enforcement of the manifesto is why you have no credibility as a moderator
You had been doing a decent job of laying off the personal jabs, but alas it didnt last long..and right on schedule the usual whiners follow you right to the front.
I have said several things to Luckylogan, moved his combative threads etc..so before you go off making yet more incorrect assumptions maybe you and the crew could do a bit of research first.
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Quote Originally Posted by rooster010:
hmmm...here we go again....
i also find him entertaining and not combative in the least
it is curious why the luckylogan gets a free pass and is much more combative, along with homophobic slurs and racial rants
i guess 14daroad is only annoying you because he supports many of his views with facts, links, and thoughtful analysis
luckylogan, who never provides any thought provoking insight, he just spews hateful rhetoric
but he gets a free pass because his thoughts align with yours?
selective enforcement of the manifesto is why you have no credibility as a moderator
You had been doing a decent job of laying off the personal jabs, but alas it didnt last long..and right on schedule the usual whiners follow you right to the front.
I have said several things to Luckylogan, moved his combative threads etc..so before you go off making yet more incorrect assumptions maybe you and the crew could do a bit of research first.
Rooster010, I just checked with the Research Dept and they are telling me they can't find where WSC has ever said SEVERAL things to Luckylogan etc (in this Forum )....But they did find one time a few days ago where he was very severely admonished and firmly chastised by WSC .....after weeks and weeks of name calling and combative post comments...
luckylogan,
Save the fighting for the box, I am getting bored of moving your threads meant to start a fight.
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Rooster010, I just checked with the Research Dept and they are telling me they can't find where WSC has ever said SEVERAL things to Luckylogan etc (in this Forum )....But they did find one time a few days ago where he was very severely admonished and firmly chastised by WSC .....after weeks and weeks of name calling and combative post comments...
luckylogan,
Save the fighting for the box, I am getting bored of moving your threads meant to start a fight.
Rooster010, I just checked with the Research Dept and they are telling me they can't find where WSC has ever said SEVERAL things to Luckylogan etc (in this Forum )....But they did find one time a few days ago where he was very severely admonished and firmly chastised by WSC .....after weeks and weeks of name calling and combative post comments...
luckylogan,
Save the fighting for the box, I am getting bored of moving your threads meant to start a fight.
slim and i rarely agree on anything, but he has that sarcastic humor that i like and knows how to use it.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Rooster010, I just checked with the Research Dept and they are telling me they can't find where WSC has ever said SEVERAL things to Luckylogan etc (in this Forum )....But they did find one time a few days ago where he was very severely admonished and firmly chastised by WSC .....after weeks and weeks of name calling and combative post comments...
luckylogan,
Save the fighting for the box, I am getting bored of moving your threads meant to start a fight.
slim and i rarely agree on anything, but he has that sarcastic humor that i like and knows how to use it.
I prefer a nanny state for millions of Americans rather than the very few be super rich! GOP mantra is " Party and Profits over Country!" There is NO trickle down anything..except for the urine trickling down Reagan's leg! Why are we the only nation with a FOR-PROFIT health care industry in the industrialized western world? The crumbling of the middle class is the forebearance of the crumbling of our nation as we know it! It's going to become a Banana Republic soon!
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I prefer a nanny state for millions of Americans rather than the very few be super rich! GOP mantra is " Party and Profits over Country!" There is NO trickle down anything..except for the urine trickling down Reagan's leg! Why are we the only nation with a FOR-PROFIT health care industry in the industrialized western world? The crumbling of the middle class is the forebearance of the crumbling of our nation as we know it! It's going to become a Banana Republic soon!
Well, we've had progressive tax rates for many decades & for those who don't think high top tier tax rates are fair, you must have hated the modern repub prez's/admin. Since Eisenhower, the top rate has averaged over 50% during the years of Ike, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush1 & Bush2 with St Ronnie's top rate being 50% for the vast majority of his yrs as prez. I guess those guys must have been huge socialists & wealth redistributors, lol. Whereas Obama has only proposed going back to the 39.6% we had under Clinton only on earnings over $250K which means that rate doesn't kick in til $357K with everything under being taxed at between 10% & 30%.
yes cashin, those republicans were as repulsive as what we have now
try not to let that blow your mind
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Quote Originally Posted by cashin:
Well, we've had progressive tax rates for many decades & for those who don't think high top tier tax rates are fair, you must have hated the modern repub prez's/admin. Since Eisenhower, the top rate has averaged over 50% during the years of Ike, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush1 & Bush2 with St Ronnie's top rate being 50% for the vast majority of his yrs as prez. I guess those guys must have been huge socialists & wealth redistributors, lol. Whereas Obama has only proposed going back to the 39.6% we had under Clinton only on earnings over $250K which means that rate doesn't kick in til $357K with everything under being taxed at between 10% & 30%.
yes cashin, those republicans were as repulsive as what we have now
Rooster010, I just checked with the Research Dept and they are telling me they can't find where WSC has ever said SEVERAL things to Luckylogan etc (in this Forum )....But they did find one time a few days ago where he was very severely admonished and firmly chastised by WSC .....after weeks and weeks of name calling and combative post comments...
luckylogan,
Save the fighting for the box, I am getting bored of moving your threads meant to start a fight.
give those researchers a raise across the board
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Rooster010, I just checked with the Research Dept and they are telling me they can't find where WSC has ever said SEVERAL things to Luckylogan etc (in this Forum )....But they did find one time a few days ago where he was very severely admonished and firmly chastised by WSC .....after weeks and weeks of name calling and combative post comments...
luckylogan,
Save the fighting for the box, I am getting bored of moving your threads meant to start a fight.
I prefer a nanny state for millions of Americans rather than the very few be super rich! GOP mantra is " Party and Profits over Country!" There is NO trickle down anything..except for the urine trickling down Reagan's leg! Why are we the only nation with a FOR-PROFIT health care industry in the industrialized western world? The crumbling of the middle class is the forebearance of the crumbling of our nation as we know it! It's going to become a Banana Republic soon!
I respect LL for being truthful. The problem is politicians will not be truthful. The last politician that was truthful was Walter Mondale. Reagan walked away from that election with a 49 state landslide, with a urine soaked leg to boot.
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Quote Originally Posted by luckylogan:
I prefer a nanny state for millions of Americans rather than the very few be super rich! GOP mantra is " Party and Profits over Country!" There is NO trickle down anything..except for the urine trickling down Reagan's leg! Why are we the only nation with a FOR-PROFIT health care industry in the industrialized western world? The crumbling of the middle class is the forebearance of the crumbling of our nation as we know it! It's going to become a Banana Republic soon!
I respect LL for being truthful. The problem is politicians will not be truthful. The last politician that was truthful was Walter Mondale. Reagan walked away from that election with a 49 state landslide, with a urine soaked leg to boot.
I prefer a nanny state for millions of Americans rather than the very few be super rich! GOP mantra is " Party and Profits over Country!" There is NO trickle down anything..except for the urine trickling down Reagan's leg! Why are we the only nation with a FOR-PROFIT health care industry in the industrialized western world? The crumbling of the middle class is the forebearance of the crumbling of our nation as we know it! It's going to become a Banana Republic soon!
I've said this for years about our for-profit health care industry:
We have the best health care in the world; surgeons, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, etc. The US is on the cutting edge of technology. To get the smartest professionals in the business we have to pay them more. Doctors and microbiologist would have no incentive to go to school for 12 years if they weren't going to be paid for it.
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Quote Originally Posted by luckylogan:
I prefer a nanny state for millions of Americans rather than the very few be super rich! GOP mantra is " Party and Profits over Country!" There is NO trickle down anything..except for the urine trickling down Reagan's leg! Why are we the only nation with a FOR-PROFIT health care industry in the industrialized western world? The crumbling of the middle class is the forebearance of the crumbling of our nation as we know it! It's going to become a Banana Republic soon!
I've said this for years about our for-profit health care industry:
We have the best health care in the world; surgeons, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, etc. The US is on the cutting edge of technology. To get the smartest professionals in the business we have to pay them more. Doctors and microbiologist would have no incentive to go to school for 12 years if they weren't going to be paid for it.
You win the stupid award. Congrats. The oil industry reaps MASSIVE profits year, after year, with tax breaks. Nice. Who do you believe finances government? Wow. You just CAN'T be this stupid. No one, has still addressed the first comment. Small wonder our politicians dance around the tough issues. When put on the spot, most of you do too.
I responded very specifically to your call-out thread..actually, very specifically to your comments.. You started this thread, and called out conservatives to respond.....Its been 2 days since I responded ..So now you are on the spot apparently.
You called me out...here I am.
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Quote Originally Posted by bandit1010:
You win the stupid award. Congrats. The oil industry reaps MASSIVE profits year, after year, with tax breaks. Nice. Who do you believe finances government? Wow. You just CAN'T be this stupid. No one, has still addressed the first comment. Small wonder our politicians dance around the tough issues. When put on the spot, most of you do too.
I responded very specifically to your call-out thread..actually, very specifically to your comments.. You started this thread, and called out conservatives to respond.....Its been 2 days since I responded ..So now you are on the spot apparently.
Shame on the Democrats (I'm talking to you Harry Reid) for not even taking the House Bill to a vote. Senate Majority Leader is an inept leader, only to be outdone by our community-organizer-in-chief in the White House.
What plans have they brought to the table ??? That's right... none.
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Shame on the Democrats (I'm talking to you Harry Reid) for not even taking the House Bill to a vote. Senate Majority Leader is an inept leader, only to be outdone by our community-organizer-in-chief in the White House.
What plans have they brought to the table ??? That's right... none.
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