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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2016 - 8:03 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    In looking at the odds on the board for the debate soros at +500 had far and away the best payout.  I actually believe that Wallace said it first as one of his scripted questions.  So considering the moderator set the table for wikilinks it was a great bet. 

    I agree that Hillary taunted and toyed with trump tonight.   Her made of Chinese steel joke had the audience Laughing while trump rambled on his lame smear rhetoric. 

    Trump could have simply done two things in the debate that would have helped him big time.  First was to say he was against abortion and take a solid stance as the prolife candidate with a definitive statement of i would like roe v wade repealed,  like he says over and over that he would like to repeal Obamacare. 

    Second was to when asked he would accept the election results, all he had to say was "yes, because i am a good American" rather than looking likena world class douchebag floundering around with this cupcake question.  He just needed to say yes and stfu

    But Failed to do so. 

    I did notice Hillary kinda go the feminist route. I am not sure if republican feminist haters would bite on this.  But educated republican women just might.  Trump never seems to be recruiting.  Only trying to sway people away from Hillary,  but never sells himself on why you should vote for him. Weird how someone that is supposed to be such a great business man looks so incompetent in marketing 


    I am not sure why Hillary supporters are insistent upon making their views on "how Trump could have done better" or "what he needed to do to win the debate was" known. That is sort of like the coaching staff of the NY Jets giving pointers to the Patriots on how to execute on offense properly. You don't think like conservatives....how can you know "what he should have done" to win?

    Trump hit a homerun on addressing the abortion issue. He explained that he would be appointing conservative pro-life judges to the Supreme Court, and said that the decision of the court would stand. He also said that after the decision was made, the jurisdiction on abortion would reside with the states. What more do you need? I believe that he actually said that he is pro-life. Pretty cut and dry really.

    That entire question, how it was delivered, and subsequent pressing for an off-the-cuff answer by Wallace was a trap designed to get a forced sound bite from Trump that would further alienate women voters. He didn't bite. Kudos to him.

    Secondly, his reluctance to unconditionally accept election results speaks to a large number of Americans who are upset at the government, economy, and media. And by the way, he did not say that he would reject the results.....he said he would wait and see. Big difference.  

    For the record, if the vote tallies are not within a specific margin, then things like recounts and electoral challenges are a no go anyhow. If he loses badly, like you seem to think he will, there will be no recourse. Trump will have to take it. And he will...the money he is likely to make selling books and documentaries on his experience will likely provide him a hefty return on his $100M investment.

    While we are talking about not accepting election results, I seem to remember Al Gore throwing a tantrum at how the electoral process panned out in 2000. Again, a nice, smoothed-out liberal view of history.

    The Soros bet was a dandy....I wish I would have seen that one....if anyone got in on it at +500 congrats, and well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    In looking at the odds on the board for the debate soros at +500 had far and away the best payout.  I actually believe that Wallace said it first as one of his scripted questions.  So considering the moderator set the table for wikilinks it was a great bet. 

    I agree that Hillary taunted and toyed with trump tonight.   Her made of Chinese steel joke had the audience Laughing while trump rambled on his lame smear rhetoric. 

    Trump could have simply done two things in the debate that would have helped him big time.  First was to say he was against abortion and take a solid stance as the prolife candidate with a definitive statement of i would like roe v wade repealed,  like he says over and over that he would like to repeal Obamacare. 

    Second was to when asked he would accept the election results, all he had to say was "yes, because i am a good American" rather than looking likena world class douchebag floundering around with this cupcake question.  He just needed to say yes and stfu

    But Failed to do so. 

    I did notice Hillary kinda go the feminist route. I am not sure if republican feminist haters would bite on this.  But educated republican women just might.  Trump never seems to be recruiting.  Only trying to sway people away from Hillary,  but never sells himself on why you should vote for him. Weird how someone that is supposed to be such a great business man looks so incompetent in marketing 


    I am not sure why Hillary supporters are insistent upon making their views on "how Trump could have done better" or "what he needed to do to win the debate was" known. That is sort of like the coaching staff of the NY Jets giving pointers to the Patriots on how to execute on offense properly. You don't think like conservatives....how can you know "what he should have done" to win?

    Trump hit a homerun on addressing the abortion issue. He explained that he would be appointing conservative pro-life judges to the Supreme Court, and said that the decision of the court would stand. He also said that after the decision was made, the jurisdiction on abortion would reside with the states. What more do you need? I believe that he actually said that he is pro-life. Pretty cut and dry really.

    That entire question, how it was delivered, and subsequent pressing for an off-the-cuff answer by Wallace was a trap designed to get a forced sound bite from Trump that would further alienate women voters. He didn't bite. Kudos to him.

    Secondly, his reluctance to unconditionally accept election results speaks to a large number of Americans who are upset at the government, economy, and media. And by the way, he did not say that he would reject the results.....he said he would wait and see. Big difference.  

    For the record, if the vote tallies are not within a specific margin, then things like recounts and electoral challenges are a no go anyhow. If he loses badly, like you seem to think he will, there will be no recourse. Trump will have to take it. And he will...the money he is likely to make selling books and documentaries on his experience will likely provide him a hefty return on his $100M investment.

    While we are talking about not accepting election results, I seem to remember Al Gore throwing a tantrum at how the electoral process panned out in 2000. Again, a nice, smoothed-out liberal view of history.

    The Soros bet was a dandy....I wish I would have seen that one....if anyone got in on it at +500 congrats, and well done.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2016 - 1:20 PM ET #27

    First off, I'm not a Hillary supporter.  So you're already starting off wrong. 

    Second trump did not hit a home run with the abortion issue at all.  This was a cupcake question designed for him to simply saying that he is prolife  he does not believe in roe v wade and wants it appeared in a clear and difinitive manner but instead slithered around taking about how it is automatic and states rights. 

    Instead he basically showed to the nation that he just saying GOP talking points to try to get elected but does not personally believe or can stand by principles of his own. 

    You believe he said he was prolife... did he really or are you displaying to the entire site that there a clear disconnect between what trump actual says and does and what you choose to believe?

    Results should be interesting 
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    First off, I'm not a Hillary supporter.  So you're already starting off wrong. 

    Second trump did not hit a home run with the abortion issue at all.  This was a cupcake question designed for him to simply saying that he is prolife  he does not believe in roe v wade and wants it appeared in a clear and difinitive manner but instead slithered around taking about how it is automatic and states rights. 

    Instead he basically showed to the nation that he just saying GOP talking points to try to get elected but does not personally believe or can stand by principles of his own. 

    You believe he said he was prolife... did he really or are you displaying to the entire site that there a clear disconnect between what trump actual says and does and what you choose to believe?

    Results should be interesting 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2016 - 3:46 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    In looking at the odds on the board for the debate soros at +500 had far and away the best payout.  I actually believe that Wallace said it first as one of his scripted questions.  So considering the moderator set the table for wikilinks it was a great bet. 

    I agree that Hillary taunted and toyed with trump tonight.   Her made of Chinese steel joke had the audience Laughing while trump rambled on his lame smear rhetoric. 

    Trump could have simply done two things in the debate that would have helped him big time.  First was to say he was against abortion and take a solid stance as the prolife candidate with a definitive statement of i would like roe v wade repealed,  like he says over and over that he would like to repeal Obamacare. 

    Second was to when asked he would accept the election results, all he had to say was "yes, because i am a good American" rather than looking likena world class douchebag floundering around with this cupcake question.  He just needed to say yes and stfu

    But Failed to do so. 

    I did notice Hillary kinda go the feminist route. I am not sure if republican feminist haters would bite on this.  But educated republican women just might.  Trump never seems to be recruiting.  Only trying to sway people away from Hillary,  but never sells himself on why you should vote for him. Weird how someone that is supposed to be such a great business man looks so incompetent in marketing 



    You are correct DL......I misspoke. Wallace said it first (as predicted) and HRC used it 3 times to link wiki to Russia.

    But we have bigger issues to deal with right now. Sarasota Slim is about to lose his shirt in this election.......As previously mentioned I take no joy in seeing people lose money. Can we please find him some props to play to get it back. I'm thinking individual state races are the best way. It's become too expensive to try and Chase it down on HRC's moneyline. Lets band together and a brother out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    In looking at the odds on the board for the debate soros at +500 had far and away the best payout.  I actually believe that Wallace said it first as one of his scripted questions.  So considering the moderator set the table for wikilinks it was a great bet. 

    I agree that Hillary taunted and toyed with trump tonight.   Her made of Chinese steel joke had the audience Laughing while trump rambled on his lame smear rhetoric. 

    Trump could have simply done two things in the debate that would have helped him big time.  First was to say he was against abortion and take a solid stance as the prolife candidate with a definitive statement of i would like roe v wade repealed,  like he says over and over that he would like to repeal Obamacare. 

    Second was to when asked he would accept the election results, all he had to say was "yes, because i am a good American" rather than looking likena world class douchebag floundering around with this cupcake question.  He just needed to say yes and stfu

    But Failed to do so. 

    I did notice Hillary kinda go the feminist route. I am not sure if republican feminist haters would bite on this.  But educated republican women just might.  Trump never seems to be recruiting.  Only trying to sway people away from Hillary,  but never sells himself on why you should vote for him. Weird how someone that is supposed to be such a great business man looks so incompetent in marketing 



    You are correct DL......I misspoke. Wallace said it first (as predicted) and HRC used it 3 times to link wiki to Russia.

    But we have bigger issues to deal with right now. Sarasota Slim is about to lose his shirt in this election.......As previously mentioned I take no joy in seeing people lose money. Can we please find him some props to play to get it back. I'm thinking individual state races are the best way. It's become too expensive to try and Chase it down on HRC's moneyline. Lets band together and a brother out.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2016 - 4:00 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Here's the main thing I got out of the debate...Hillary Clinton  recklessly divulged our Nations Top Secret nuclear security intelligence to a worldwide television audience ...proving again that she is unfit to be commander-in-chief...

    Hillary Clinton disregarded safeguards and protocols for accessing and discussing highly classified and Top Secret intelligence..just to score points in the debate..

    It's bad enough that she mishandling national security secrets via email during her years as Secretary of State,but given out specific details of the country’s nuclear response time...is a breach of America's security ... ,,and she should arrested..

    Slim, I got your back buddy. If you listen to me and do what I say when you are told, then we can minimize the damage that you are doing to your bankroll. We may even be able to turn you a small profit in the coming weeks. I know that you are a proud man and are probably willing to go down with the ship. While that is noble on your part.......I guess my point is that you can still root for Trump without losing money in the process. Swallow your pride, consider your bankroll, and accept the help that you are being offered.
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    Here's the main thing I got out of the debate...Hillary Clinton  recklessly divulged our Nations Top Secret nuclear security intelligence to a worldwide television audience ...proving again that she is unfit to be commander-in-chief...

    Hillary Clinton disregarded safeguards and protocols for accessing and discussing highly classified and Top Secret intelligence..just to score points in the debate..

    It's bad enough that she mishandling national security secrets via email during her years as Secretary of State,but given out specific details of the country’s nuclear response time...is a breach of America's security ... ,,and she should arrested..

    Slim, I got your back buddy. If you listen to me and do what I say when you are told, then we can minimize the damage that you are doing to your bankroll. We may even be able to turn you a small profit in the coming weeks. I know that you are a proud man and are probably willing to go down with the ship. While that is noble on your part.......I guess my point is that you can still root for Trump without losing money in the process. Swallow your pride, consider your bankroll, and accept the help that you are being offered.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    Slim, I got your back buddy. If you listen to me and do what I say when you are told, then we can minimize the damage that you are doing to your bankroll. We may even be able to turn you a small profit in the coming weeks. I know that you are a proud man and are probably willing to go down with the ship. While that is noble on your part.......I guess my point is that you can still root for Trump without losing money in the process. Swallow your pride, consider your bankroll, and accept the help that you are being offered.


    Thanks Inyourlife...  you don't know how much I appreciate all your guidance...however speaking of ships...Hillary Clinton reminds me of the ship RMS Titanic and like the Titanic,, who's crew members proclaimed  "Not even god himself could sink this ship ...but while crossing the Atlantic Ocean carrying some of the wealthiest people in the world, collided head on with an underwater iceberg..and sunk..

    Like with the Titanic..Hillary's supporters acting like not even god  can sink her campaign..but her ship will be hitting an underwater iceberg called Hillary's enthusiasm gap...as noticed in her rally's. she only attracts small crowds .Many supporters that say on the phone to pollsters they would vote for her ...won't have enough enthusiasm to actually leave the house and go out and physically vote for her...and like the Titantic she will hit an iceberg on Nov 8th and sink..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    Slim, I got your back buddy. If you listen to me and do what I say when you are told, then we can minimize the damage that you are doing to your bankroll. We may even be able to turn you a small profit in the coming weeks. I know that you are a proud man and are probably willing to go down with the ship. While that is noble on your part.......I guess my point is that you can still root for Trump without losing money in the process. Swallow your pride, consider your bankroll, and accept the help that you are being offered.


    Thanks Inyourlife...  you don't know how much I appreciate all your guidance...however speaking of ships...Hillary Clinton reminds me of the ship RMS Titanic and like the Titanic,, who's crew members proclaimed  "Not even god himself could sink this ship ...but while crossing the Atlantic Ocean carrying some of the wealthiest people in the world, collided head on with an underwater iceberg..and sunk..

    Like with the Titanic..Hillary's supporters acting like not even god  can sink her campaign..but her ship will be hitting an underwater iceberg called Hillary's enthusiasm gap...as noticed in her rally's. she only attracts small crowds .Many supporters that say on the phone to pollsters they would vote for her ...won't have enough enthusiasm to actually leave the house and go out and physically vote for her...and like the Titantic she will hit an iceberg on Nov 8th and sink..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Thanks Inyourlife...  you don't know how much I appreciate all your guidance...however speaking of ships...Hillary Clinton reminds me of the ship RMS Titanic and like the Titanic,, who's crew members proclaimed  "Not even god himself could sink this ship ...but while crossing the Atlantic Ocean carrying some of the wealthiest people in the world, collided head on with an underwater iceberg..and sunk..

    Like with the Titanic..Hillary's supporters acting like not even god  can sink her campaign..but her ship will be hitting an underwater iceberg called Hillary's enthusiasm gap...as noticed in her rally's. she only attracts small crowds .Many supporters that say on the phone to pollsters they would vote for her ...won't have enough enthusiasm to actually leave the house and go out and physically vote for her ...and like the Titantic she will hit an iceberg on Nov 8th and sink..

    My offer remains open Slim. Hoping that HRC supporters decide to NOT vote is probably not the best winning strategy. The sooner that we are able to get you through the 5 stages the sooner we can create a viable plan to restore your bankroll. Right now you are in denial and we need to simply leapfrog to acceptance. Time doesn't allow for the anger, bargaining, and depression steps.

    I know that you can't see it, but believe me when I tell you that Trump's campaign has hit that Iceberg and then put the ship in reverse to hit it again. Mixing hope with your bankroll can be harmful and I will be here if you want help chasing it down.


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    Thanks Inyourlife...  you don't know how much I appreciate all your guidance...however speaking of ships...Hillary Clinton reminds me of the ship RMS Titanic and like the Titanic,, who's crew members proclaimed  "Not even god himself could sink this ship ...but while crossing the Atlantic Ocean carrying some of the wealthiest people in the world, collided head on with an underwater iceberg..and sunk..

    Like with the Titanic..Hillary's supporters acting like not even god  can sink her campaign..but her ship will be hitting an underwater iceberg called Hillary's enthusiasm gap...as noticed in her rally's. she only attracts small crowds .Many supporters that say on the phone to pollsters they would vote for her ...won't have enough enthusiasm to actually leave the house and go out and physically vote for her ...and like the Titantic she will hit an iceberg on Nov 8th and sink..

    My offer remains open Slim. Hoping that HRC supporters decide to NOT vote is probably not the best winning strategy. The sooner that we are able to get you through the 5 stages the sooner we can create a viable plan to restore your bankroll. Right now you are in denial and we need to simply leapfrog to acceptance. Time doesn't allow for the anger, bargaining, and depression steps.

    I know that you can't see it, but believe me when I tell you that Trump's campaign has hit that Iceberg and then put the ship in reverse to hit it again. Mixing hope with your bankroll can be harmful and I will be here if you want help chasing it down.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    My offer remains open Slim. Hoping that HRC supporters decide to NOT vote is probably not the best winning strategy.



     Not hoping,,, going  by what Bernie Sanders himself said "some of my supporters "will not vote" for Hillary.. 25% of Sanders backers said they would not support Clinton in November. Sanders got 43% of the total Democrat primary votes that represents 5.6 Million votes Hillary will not get ..

    In 2012 Obama beat Romney by less than 5 million popular votes...if in fact those Bernie supporter really are feeling the burn esp.after wikileaks exposed that the DNC colluded with the Hillary campaign to rig the primary's and steal the election..that along could sink the SS Clinton,.


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    My offer remains open Slim. Hoping that HRC supporters decide to NOT vote is probably not the best winning strategy.



     Not hoping,,, going  by what Bernie Sanders himself said "some of my supporters "will not vote" for Hillary.. 25% of Sanders backers said they would not support Clinton in November. Sanders got 43% of the total Democrat primary votes that represents 5.6 Million votes Hillary will not get ..

    In 2012 Obama beat Romney by less than 5 million popular votes...if in fact those Bernie supporter really are feeling the burn esp.after wikileaks exposed that the DNC colluded with the Hillary campaign to rig the primary's and steal the election..that along could sink the SS Clinton,.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



     Not hoping,,, going  by what Bernie Sanders himself said "some of my supporters "will not vote" for Hillary.. 25% of Sanders backers said they would not support Clinton in November. Sanders got 43% of the total Democrat primary votes that represents 5.6 Million votes Hillary will not get ..

    In 2012 Obama beat Romney by less than 5 million popular votes...if in fact those Bernie supporter really are feeling the burn esp.after wikileaks exposed that the DNC colluded with the Hillary campaign to rig the primary's and steal the election..that along could sink the SS Clinton,.



    Fair enough Slim...........I promise you that there will be no "I told you so's" from me after the election if I cash.

    When faced with an pending event, we chose different sides based upon info that we processed. We calculated the odds of the event occurring and bought into the event when we thought that we saw value.

    If DJT wins I will congratulate you for being able to see what I was unable to see.

    If HRC wins and you claim that she stole the election then you won't be taking responsibility for choosing the wrong side......like blaming a lost wager on the refs. No one is asking you to congratulate the winning team if you lose. Just don't call us cheaters at the end of the event.

    I will be posting picks for individual states based upon the value in odds when my book posts. I don't need to bet this election anymore. They will be posted for the sole intention of making you whole again. One day you will thank me Slim
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     Not hoping,,, going  by what Bernie Sanders himself said "some of my supporters "will not vote" for Hillary.. 25% of Sanders backers said they would not support Clinton in November. Sanders got 43% of the total Democrat primary votes that represents 5.6 Million votes Hillary will not get ..

    In 2012 Obama beat Romney by less than 5 million popular votes...if in fact those Bernie supporter really are feeling the burn esp.after wikileaks exposed that the DNC colluded with the Hillary campaign to rig the primary's and steal the election..that along could sink the SS Clinton,.



    Fair enough Slim...........I promise you that there will be no "I told you so's" from me after the election if I cash.

    When faced with an pending event, we chose different sides based upon info that we processed. We calculated the odds of the event occurring and bought into the event when we thought that we saw value.

    If DJT wins I will congratulate you for being able to see what I was unable to see.

    If HRC wins and you claim that she stole the election then you won't be taking responsibility for choosing the wrong side......like blaming a lost wager on the refs. No one is asking you to congratulate the winning team if you lose. Just don't call us cheaters at the end of the event.

    I will be posting picks for individual states based upon the value in odds when my book posts. I don't need to bet this election anymore. They will be posted for the sole intention of making you whole again. One day you will thank me Slim
     
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    "Best Of Luck" to you Inourlife16 and I mean that ...I consider you a true gentleman..

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    "Best Of Luck" to you Inourlife16 and I mean that ...I consider you a true gentleman..

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    I see KellyanneSlim is back......    
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "Best Of Luck" to you Inourlife16 and I mean that ...I consider you a true gentleman..

    ....

    Thanks Slim......even if you are being sarcastic thanks. I look forward to a time when we are on the same side and can get after it. I think I read that you only bet elections.....I could be wrong on that.
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    "Best Of Luck" to you Inourlife16 and I mean that ...I consider you a true gentleman..

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    Thanks Slim......even if you are being sarcastic thanks. I look forward to a time when we are on the same side and can get after it. I think I read that you only bet elections.....I could be wrong on that.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    Thanks Slim......even if you are being sarcastic thanks. I look forward to a time when we are on the same side and can get after it. I think I read that you only bet elections.....I could be wrong on that.



    You read me wrong ..I wasn't trying to be sarcastic..and no, I said I don't bet Presidential elections ..anymore.

    Nevertheless,I also look forward to when we are on the same side  ..maybe it will be during the revolution.

    Again BOL  ...
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    Thanks Slim......even if you are being sarcastic thanks. I look forward to a time when we are on the same side and can get after it. I think I read that you only bet elections.....I could be wrong on that.



    You read me wrong ..I wasn't trying to be sarcastic..and no, I said I don't bet Presidential elections ..anymore.

    Nevertheless,I also look forward to when we are on the same side  ..maybe it will be during the revolution.

    Again BOL  ...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    You read me wrong ..I wasn't trying to be sarcastic..and no, I said I don't bet Presidential elections ..anymore.

    Nevertheless,I also look forward to when we are on the same side  ..maybe it will be during the revolution.

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    You read me wrong ..I wasn't trying to be sarcastic..and no, I said I don't bet Presidential elections ..anymore.

    Nevertheless,I also look forward to when we are on the same side  ..maybe it will be during the revolution.

    Again BOL         
     
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    Sara, perhaps you could give us some actual plays that we could profit from and be a legit contributing member of this forum?

    Why not suggest some bets and give the rational why and help other profit rather than just sarcastic and petty games and antics?  

    Why not be and asset to the forum and others rather than just trying to spin threads and detract from the intelligent conversations of the gamblers here hat are trying to make money?  I don't know why you put so much effort in detracting from that...

    Please friend, join us in the political gambling discussion with out the silly games and antics...  
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    Sara, perhaps you could give us some actual plays that we could profit from and be a legit contributing member of this forum?

    Why not suggest some bets and give the rational why and help other profit rather than just sarcastic and petty games and antics?  

    Why not be and asset to the forum and others rather than just trying to spin threads and detract from the intelligent conversations of the gamblers here hat are trying to make money?  I don't know why you put so much effort in detracting from that...

    Please friend, join us in the political gambling discussion with out the silly games and antics...  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Sara, perhaps you could give us some actual plays that we could profit from and be a legit contributing member of this forum?

    Why not suggest some bets and give the rational why and help other profit rather than just sarcastic and petty games and antics?  

    Why not be and asset to the forum and others rather than just trying to spin threads and detract from the intelligent conversations of the gamblers here hat are trying to make money?  I don't know why you put so much effort in detracting from that...

    Please friend, join us in the political gambling discussion with out the silly games and antics...  

    He contributed with the "revolution" line..........That was good stuff. If he wants to quietly tail the pending state props while voicing his support for Trump than that's fine also. I'm obviously done with HRC moneyline. You got OH at even money. That's the kind of stuff I'm looking for when State props hit my board.

    And that's where our focus should be right now DL. You will continue to hear me say that:

    A. This election is not over. None of us bet with PaddyPower.

    B. This election is not over which means that opportunities will continue to present themselves........you got OH at even money.....that's good stuff and that's where my energy will be focused
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    Sara, perhaps you could give us some actual plays that we could profit from and be a legit contributing member of this forum?

    Why not suggest some bets and give the rational why and help other profit rather than just sarcastic and petty games and antics?  

    Why not be and asset to the forum and others rather than just trying to spin threads and detract from the intelligent conversations of the gamblers here hat are trying to make money?  I don't know why you put so much effort in detracting from that...

    Please friend, join us in the political gambling discussion with out the silly games and antics...  

    He contributed with the "revolution" line..........That was good stuff. If he wants to quietly tail the pending state props while voicing his support for Trump than that's fine also. I'm obviously done with HRC moneyline. You got OH at even money. That's the kind of stuff I'm looking for when State props hit my board.

    And that's where our focus should be right now DL. You will continue to hear me say that:

    A. This election is not over. None of us bet with PaddyPower.

    B. This election is not over which means that opportunities will continue to present themselves........you got OH at even money.....that's good stuff and that's where my energy will be focused
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    you got OH at even money.....that's good stuff and that's where my energy will be focused

    For the most part I only wager on the NFL ... but you have peaked my interest.

    I got $100 that says Trump takes Ohio.
    Straight up. You want the witch at that price? 
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    you got OH at even money.....that's good stuff and that's where my energy will be focused

    For the most part I only wager on the NFL ... but you have peaked my interest.

    I got $100 that says Trump takes Ohio.
    Straight up. You want the witch at that price? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    First off, I'm not a Hillary supporter.  So you're already starting off wrong. 

    Second trump did not hit a home run with the abortion issue at all.  This was a cupcake question designed for him to simply saying that he is prolife  he does not believe in roe v wade and wants it appeared in a clear and difinitive manner but instead slithered around taking about how it is automatic and states rights. 

    Instead he basically showed to the nation that he just saying GOP talking points to try to get elected but does not personally believe or can stand by principles of his own. 

    You believe he said he was prolife... did he really or are you displaying to the entire site that there a clear disconnect between what trump actual says and does and what you choose to believe?

    Results should be interesting 

    This really won't be that interesting to you. Debate #3, Trump states he is pro-life in the first 45 seconds of the video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNomXA8ts78


    Well, dl, I think that about covers it. I choose my words carefully, because you are a Hall-of-Famer since 2003, and at a base level I do respect the thousands of hours that you have spent on Covers typing away without pay. However, I  do not think you are capable of recognizing the possibility that you may have this election all wrong.


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    First off, I'm not a Hillary supporter.  So you're already starting off wrong. 

    Second trump did not hit a home run with the abortion issue at all.  This was a cupcake question designed for him to simply saying that he is prolife  he does not believe in roe v wade and wants it appeared in a clear and difinitive manner but instead slithered around taking about how it is automatic and states rights. 

    Instead he basically showed to the nation that he just saying GOP talking points to try to get elected but does not personally believe or can stand by principles of his own. 

    You believe he said he was prolife... did he really or are you displaying to the entire site that there a clear disconnect between what trump actual says and does and what you choose to believe?

    Results should be interesting 

    This really won't be that interesting to you. Debate #3, Trump states he is pro-life in the first 45 seconds of the video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNomXA8ts78


    Well, dl, I think that about covers it. I choose my words carefully, because you are a Hall-of-Famer since 2003, and at a base level I do respect the thousands of hours that you have spent on Covers typing away without pay. However, I  do not think you are capable of recognizing the possibility that you may have this election all wrong.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    First off, I'm not a Hillary supporter.  So you're already starting off wrong.

    Sounds good. I guess I am "wrong" again. I hope that you can come to a decision for whom to cast your vote by November 8. Time is short, so get on it.


    Second trump did not hit a home run with the abortion issue at all.  This was a cupcake question designed for him to simply saying that he is prolife  he does not believe in roe v wade and wants it appeared in a clear and difinitive manner but instead slithered around taking about how it is automatic and states rights.

    The Roe v Wade case and decision is one of the basic tenants of women's rights and a pillar of the feminist movement. The question posed by Wallace was intended to get Trump to provide a talking point to the media which was to be used in an attempt to further alienate feminists and undecided women voters(if that is even possible at this point). A statement by Trump saying that he was going to actively pursue a policy of overturning Roe v Wade would be seen as an attack on women's rights. He chose to stay out of that pit. Like I said, not an upper decker, but certainly a 338 ft opposite field round-tripper.

    Instead he basically showed to the nation that he just saying GOP talking points to try to get elected but does not personally believe or can stand by principles of his own.

    He stated that he is pro-life, will appoint pro-life judges to the Supreme court, and ultimately let the states decide their own policies. That is what a conservative is. States rights, limited powers of the federal government. Your inability to understand this point suggests either a deep political divide on your part or limited education on the matter.

    You believe he said he was prolife... did he really or are you displaying to the entire site that there a clear disconnect between what trump actual says and does and what you choose to believe?
    This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNomXA8ts78

    Results should be interesting

    They really aren't. Actually, relatively boring. More than likely a waste of 10 minutes on my part. 
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    First off, I'm not a Hillary supporter.  So you're already starting off wrong.

    Sounds good. I guess I am "wrong" again. I hope that you can come to a decision for whom to cast your vote by November 8. Time is short, so get on it.


    Second trump did not hit a home run with the abortion issue at all.  This was a cupcake question designed for him to simply saying that he is prolife  he does not believe in roe v wade and wants it appeared in a clear and difinitive manner but instead slithered around taking about how it is automatic and states rights.

    The Roe v Wade case and decision is one of the basic tenants of women's rights and a pillar of the feminist movement. The question posed by Wallace was intended to get Trump to provide a talking point to the media which was to be used in an attempt to further alienate feminists and undecided women voters(if that is even possible at this point). A statement by Trump saying that he was going to actively pursue a policy of overturning Roe v Wade would be seen as an attack on women's rights. He chose to stay out of that pit. Like I said, not an upper decker, but certainly a 338 ft opposite field round-tripper.

    Instead he basically showed to the nation that he just saying GOP talking points to try to get elected but does not personally believe or can stand by principles of his own.

    He stated that he is pro-life, will appoint pro-life judges to the Supreme court, and ultimately let the states decide their own policies. That is what a conservative is. States rights, limited powers of the federal government. Your inability to understand this point suggests either a deep political divide on your part or limited education on the matter.

    You believe he said he was prolife... did he really or are you displaying to the entire site that there a clear disconnect between what trump actual says and does and what you choose to believe?
    This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNomXA8ts78

    Results should be interesting

    They really aren't. Actually, relatively boring. More than likely a waste of 10 minutes on my part. 
     
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    Bigvern, trying to reason with the individual to whom you are talking to is akin to riding the carousel of wasted words.

    Round and round it goes, but nothing positive can come from it.

    "More than likely a waste of 10 minutes on my part." 
    This hit the nail on the head 
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    Bigvern, trying to reason with the individual to whom you are talking to is akin to riding the carousel of wasted words.

    Round and round it goes, but nothing positive can come from it.

    "More than likely a waste of 10 minutes on my part." 
    This hit the nail on the head 
     
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    I agree Hugh.

    It would have been more productive to have spent the time preparing for tomorrow's slate of CFB.

    Why the heck I am I debating politics on a gambling website anyhow? I think some personal reflection is needed before revisiting the political or general discussion forums. Going to have to chalk that one up to a character flaw. 

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    I agree Hugh.

    It would have been more productive to have spent the time preparing for tomorrow's slate of CFB.

    Why the heck I am I debating politics on a gambling website anyhow? I think some personal reflection is needed before revisiting the political or general discussion forums. Going to have to chalk that one up to a character flaw. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    For the most part I only wager on the NFL ... but you have peaked my interest.

    I got $100 that says Trump takes Ohio.
    Straight up. You want the witch at that price? 

    Hi Hugh.....my answer is yes. Though I would prefer to bet with my book, I would do that straight up if that is what you want. I don't want to bet with you. I enjoy taking money from the book when I win...and knowing myself, I would feel uncomfortable accepting a payout from you if I won OH. But the answer is Yes. At those odds/amount I will do it if you can't find those odds or event with your book. But I prefer that we just had a gentlemen's bet between us. I guess you can pm me if you want go forward. Thanks
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    For the most part I only wager on the NFL ... but you have peaked my interest.

    I got $100 that says Trump takes Ohio.
    Straight up. You want the witch at that price? 

    Hi Hugh.....my answer is yes. Though I would prefer to bet with my book, I would do that straight up if that is what you want. I don't want to bet with you. I enjoy taking money from the book when I win...and knowing myself, I would feel uncomfortable accepting a payout from you if I won OH. But the answer is Yes. At those odds/amount I will do it if you can't find those odds or event with your book. But I prefer that we just had a gentlemen's bet between us. I guess you can pm me if you want go forward. Thanks
     
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    IYL,
    I agree, it's more fun to bet against the house.

    How about this, if Trump wins Ohio, you use a picture of him as your av for one month.
    If HRC wins Ohio, then I will use her picture as my av.
    Said pictures must be 'flattering' to the subject, meaning you can't use a pic of Trump getting bent over by Putin, or other such negative depictions.

    Deal? 

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    IYL,
    I agree, it's more fun to bet against the house.

    How about this, if Trump wins Ohio, you use a picture of him as your av for one month.
    If HRC wins Ohio, then I will use her picture as my av.
    Said pictures must be 'flattering' to the subject, meaning you can't use a pic of Trump getting bent over by Putin, or other such negative depictions.

    Deal? 

     
     
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