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It isnt like from day one they werent in the middle of this religious mess but now it is getting worse, but who would have thought THIS would happen right?

Good thing Bush got Saddam out, he was doing a horrible job at keeping all these religious groups in check.

 
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What liberal tactic is that?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

What liberal tactic is that?


It's called truth. Not a liberal tactic but one a right wing extremist sheep would never understand. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

What liberal tactic is that?


Come again?

Bush took out Saddam and brought democracy to the region under multiple phony pretenses..and now we are seeing the fruits of his actions and TRILLIONS of dollars spent and thousands of lives lost.

Mission accomplished.
 
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Have to agree with you  wall. 

Every single person with half a brain knew that this would happen when we left.

Ghadaffi, Saddam, Mumbarak, etc. 
better than the alternative.



 
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Well when you put in as leader a religious minority head who has a history of religious angst I am not sure there is much that can be done.

Many knew from day one of the fiasco, (not from us leaving) that this was a total sham and would end badly.

Religious fighting trumps any other..a dictator might be the best solution when you are in a region with multiple religious groups who have the resolve to wipe the other off the map as their sole goal in life.

Glad we got all our money back in oil too..that is a big relief.

 
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The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria fighters are at the gates of Bagdad...

President Obama is drawing a line in the sand  in Iraq ..warns of U.S. action as Jihadist push to Bagdad ,..

Pulled the troops out a little early, eh, Commander Obama?

 
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It's the Blame Bush Tactic.

In hindsight I wish we wouldn't have gone in either but Lord Obama just isn't up to the task.

All Presidents have to clean up the mess their predecessor left behind the only difference is I hear "Bush's Fault" every damn time I take a breath. The world is a mess everywhere. It seems like every decision he makes, domestic or internationally, especially internationally, ends up being a clusterfukk.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

It's the Blame Bush Tactic.

In hindsight I wish we wouldn't have gone in either but Lord Obama just isn't up to the task.

All Presidents have to clean up the mess their predecessor left behind the only difference is I hear "Bush's Fault" every damn time I take a breath. The world is a mess everywhere. It seems like every decision he makes, domestic or internationally, especially internationally, ends up being a clusterfukk.

It's not a blame Bush tactic, It's a taking off your red,blue and white American tinted political glasses and reviewing the mess from a different perspective.

The only conclusion i have is, The plan was to create a mess there so that they would fight amongs't themselves and in turn the radical Islamic focus would sway from wanting to do damage to America to fighting domestic battles, I mean you only have to look at Egypt and Pakistan, What a mess, Not to mention, Afghanistan. 
 
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2009

Michael Savage : Saddam was a stabilizing influence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LQEj8sQBSw

We now need a stabilizing influence in America.....


 
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SS,

I dont need some political talking head hack to tell me the obvious.

I enjoy seeing you two try and turn anything politically sensitive into an Obama issue.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


Come again?

Bush took out Saddam and brought democracy to the region under multiple phony pretenses..and now we are seeing the fruits of his actions and TRILLIONS of dollars spent and thousands of lives lost.

Mission accomplished.


it really is amazing, all of those lives and all of that money wasted for absolutely nothing.  that's something only a pro life rightwinger could defend. 
 
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https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-once-called-iraq-one-obamas-great-achievments_794909.html



 
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Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-once-called-iraq-one-obamas-great-achievments_794909.html





any taking troops out of there is good but he sounds like an idiot mentioning stable government and iraq together.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

SS,

I dont need some political talking head hack to tell me the obvious.

I enjoy seeing you two try and turn anything politically sensitive into an Obama issue.

"Good thing Bush got Saddam out"...

 

Now that Obama has al Quaeda decimated  and on the run..he can turn his attention to wiping out  ISIS in Bagdad.. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

"Good thing Bush got Saddam out"...

 

Now that Obama has al Quaeda decimated  and on the run..he can turn his attention to wiping out  ISIS in Bagdad.. 


So was Bush the president when this started or was it Obama?

I seem to remember it being Bush..nice try pal.

I know it is tough but Bush started this crap under a mountain of false intel and pretenses and it has gone from bad to worse, none of this has anything to do with Obama.

Religious fighting in the area has nothing to do with Obama. We could throw 10 million troops in there and STILL there would be religious fighting.

 
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Mark Steyn gets it just about right ..

Obama and Clinton ended the war in Iraq by losing it.

They "pivoted" from Iraq to Afghanistan, and wound up losing both. Hillary crowed over Gaddafi's corpse - "We came, we saw, he died" - and then sat by as her ambassador and best friend "Chris" was devoured by the mob..

Mark Steyn..

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



any taking troops out of there is good but he sounds like an idiot mentioning stable government and iraq together.

He reminds me often of Dan Quayle
 
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Oh look another quote from some political hack..

I can draw conclusions without spitting out what someone else says.

Aside from ANY US political garbage, that area will never survive without a strong non-religious leader forcing the opponents to co-exist.

So Clinton this, Obama that, Bush this or that..the real issue is Bush took out someone who was forcing the groups to co-exist at a HUGE loss of life and cost for a purpose which would never and will never be accomplished.

Would Obama or Clinton invaded Iraq? Maybe they put a happy face in public and try not to make Bush look like more of a moron than he is, but would either have INVADED as Bush and his father did?

I do not think so. 

Taking out Saddam was a huge mistake..but the debt had to be settled and now here we are.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

Oh look another quote from some political hack..


I can draw conclusions without spitting out what someone else says.
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That make you better than me ..I can't  ...

 
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The US needs to end it's policy of nation building. All that money and lives wasted.
Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

That make you better than me ..I can't  ...


Yeah you can..you love banging the same lame Repub drum and enjoy ticking others off.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:


It's not a blame Bush tactic, It's a taking off your red,blue and white American tinted political glasses and reviewing the mess from a different perspective.

The only conclusion i have is, The plan was to create a mess there so that they would fight amongs't themselves and in turn the radical Islamic focus would sway from wanting to do damage to America to fighting domestic battles, I mean you only have to look at Egypt and Pakistan, What a mess, Not to mention, Afghanistan. 


Boy. nothing like a UK leftist coming here bashing the COUNTRY that unilaterreling SAVED you off the face of the EARTH

Watch out Dude the UK is a helluve lot closer than these great shores
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:


He reminds me often of Dan Quayle



i didn't follow this crap then.  that was a much simpler time. 
 
 
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Still Bush's fault huh? Let's see where the weapons Al queda used came from. It's interesting this happened just after the US armed al Queda in Syria. Coincidental?
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