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So what happened to Iraq? I thought getting rid of Saddam solved everything?
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It's the Blame Bush Tactic.
In hindsight I wish we wouldn't have gone in either but Lord Obama just isn't up to the task.
All Presidents have to clean up the mess their predecessor left behind the only difference is I hear "Bush's Fault" every damn time I take a breath. The world is a mess everywhere. It seems like every decision he makes, domestic or internationally, especially internationally, ends up being a clusterfukk.
Deflection. ![]()
It's the Blame Bush Tactic.
In hindsight I wish we wouldn't have gone in either but Lord Obama just isn't up to the task.
All Presidents have to clean up the mess their predecessor left behind the only difference is I hear "Bush's Fault" every damn time I take a breath. The world is a mess everywhere. It seems like every decision he makes, domestic or internationally, especially internationally, ends up being a clusterfukk.
Deflection. ![]()
When President Hillary takes over in Jan 2017 is she going to blame Obama for Lybia, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia, Iran, etc?
When President Hillary takes over in Jan 2017 is she going to blame Obama for Lybia, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia, Iran, etc?
This is a DIRECT result of Obama's foreign MILITARY policy
An objective analysis of foreign policy isn't your strong suit is it. ![]()
The simple reality is it doesn't matter who is President or how long we remain in Iraq unless we are going to both control its government and military.
Iraq is and never was, going to be a Democracy. We have been (and continue to) simply holding the ground until the next dictator comes along.
A country that is governed by a religious theocracy will never be a sustainable democracy. Blame Bush, Obama, it doesn't really matter. I said before that five years after we leave, Iraq would have a ruthless dictator and nothing I have seen changes that. We are now just delaying the inevitable.
Whether we should have removed SH is another matter. I have been clear that I don't fault Bush for that and the blunders occurred after he was gone. ![]()
You (and your ilk) should find those posts. It will be a good learning experience.
This is a DIRECT result of Obama's foreign MILITARY policy
An objective analysis of foreign policy isn't your strong suit is it. ![]()
The simple reality is it doesn't matter who is President or how long we remain in Iraq unless we are going to both control its government and military.
Iraq is and never was, going to be a Democracy. We have been (and continue to) simply holding the ground until the next dictator comes along.
A country that is governed by a religious theocracy will never be a sustainable democracy. Blame Bush, Obama, it doesn't really matter. I said before that five years after we leave, Iraq would have a ruthless dictator and nothing I have seen changes that. We are now just delaying the inevitable.
Whether we should have removed SH is another matter. I have been clear that I don't fault Bush for that and the blunders occurred after he was gone. ![]()
You (and your ilk) should find those posts. It will be a good learning experience.
So a stabilizing military force (ala. S. KOREA,GERMANY, ITALY.JAPAN) would not have made ANYTHING different??
Go read a book on religious theocracies and get back to me since its obvious that you don't understand what the term means. ![]()
So a stabilizing military force (ala. S. KOREA,GERMANY, ITALY.JAPAN) would not have made ANYTHING different??
Go read a book on religious theocracies and get back to me since its obvious that you don't understand what the term means. ![]()
Go read a book on religious theocracies and get back to me since its obvious that you don't understand what the term means. ![]()
Go read a book on religious theocracies and get back to me since its obvious that you don't understand what the term means. ![]()
Sure it would. We could 'occupy' the country, subject our troops to attacks daily, and know that the moment we leave, as history is our Bible, that the country will slide into dictatorship as it was under SH.
Makes you wonder why we would do that.
The other issue is our occupation in Iraq (and by occupation, I mean install a puppet goverment and control of the military) likely will create problems in the surrounding countries, not to mention that puppet government would rule insurgents with an iron fist, thereby creating more turmoil, more inurgents, and the likely actions of neighboring countries supporting the insurgents.
Sure it would. We could 'occupy' the country, subject our troops to attacks daily, and know that the moment we leave, as history is our Bible, that the country will slide into dictatorship as it was under SH.
Makes you wonder why we would do that.
The other issue is our occupation in Iraq (and by occupation, I mean install a puppet goverment and control of the military) likely will create problems in the surrounding countries, not to mention that puppet government would rule insurgents with an iron fist, thereby creating more turmoil, more inurgents, and the likely actions of neighboring countries supporting the insurgents.
So a stabilizing military force (ala. S. KOREA,GERMANY, ITALY.JAPAN) would not have made ANYTHING different??
You should take your own advice and read the history again. Just like Vietnam except it's even worse, we didn't have a chance to win even with our Founding fathers combined.
They either don't want or ready for our "democracy" or whatever you want to call it and add a lot of religious craziness into the mix, you get a recipe for disaster.
I know Bush was the head of the state but I fault Cheney the most and that's one of the main reasons they had a fallout at the end.
So a stabilizing military force (ala. S. KOREA,GERMANY, ITALY.JAPAN) would not have made ANYTHING different??
You should take your own advice and read the history again. Just like Vietnam except it's even worse, we didn't have a chance to win even with our Founding fathers combined.
They either don't want or ready for our "democracy" or whatever you want to call it and add a lot of religious craziness into the mix, you get a recipe for disaster.
I know Bush was the head of the state but I fault Cheney the most and that's one of the main reasons they had a fallout at the end.
You should take your own advice and read the history again. Just like Vietnam except it's even worse, we didn't have a chance to win even with our Founding fathers combined.
They either don't want or ready for our "democracy" or whatever you want to call it and add a lot of religious craziness into the mix, you get a recipe for disaster.
I know Bush was the head of the state but I fault Cheney the most and that's one of the main reasons they had a fallout at the end.
You should take your own advice and read the history again. Just like Vietnam except it's even worse, we didn't have a chance to win even with our Founding fathers combined.
They either don't want or ready for our "democracy" or whatever you want to call it and add a lot of religious craziness into the mix, you get a recipe for disaster.
I know Bush was the head of the state but I fault Cheney the most and that's one of the main reasons they had a fallout at the end.
It isnt like from day one they werent in the middle of this religious mess but now it is getting worse, but who would have thought THIS would happen right?
Aren't there at least two missing rungs in this attempt at ladder logic? ![]()
It isnt like from day one they werent in the middle of this religious mess but now it is getting worse, but who would have thought THIS would happen right?
Aren't there at least two missing rungs in this attempt at ladder logic? ![]()
Seems to me Romney's been right about a lot of things....just saying
Seems to me Romney's been right about a lot of things....just saying
No, you didn't mention Vietnam. I did because if you are so fond of history(by suggesting the need for the mods to go back to history books), you would have known we didn't have a chance from the get-go.
Of course, Iraq was in a even worse situation than Vietnam and anyone should expect a different outcome?. Even with a continuous occupation/presence, we wouldn't solve the chaos because we would not have cooperation from them.
No, you didn't mention Vietnam. I did because if you are so fond of history(by suggesting the need for the mods to go back to history books), you would have known we didn't have a chance from the get-go.
Of course, Iraq was in a even worse situation than Vietnam and anyone should expect a different outcome?. Even with a continuous occupation/presence, we wouldn't solve the chaos because we would not have cooperation from them.
Aren't there at least two missing rungs in this attempt at ladder logic? ![]()
Aren't there at least two missing rungs in this attempt at ladder logic? ![]()
One thing for sure....Romney was dead on in the debates about this topic and Obama just shook it off.
Seems to me Romney's been right about a lot of things....just saying
One thing for sure....Romney was dead on in the debates about this topic and Obama just shook it off.
Seems to me Romney's been right about a lot of things....just saying
Btw, I NEVER mentioned OCCUPY, DJ did
Btw, I NEVER mentioned OCCUPY, DJ did
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