Trump has a long history of cozying up to the Russians dating back to the 1980s, but I think greed was his primarily motivation for doing so. While I don’t believe he’s a Manchurian candidate, it seems pretty obvious he’s in Russia’s pocket for some reason. My best guess is that Russian money helped keep Trump in business for a number of years and he continues to benefit from remaining friendly with them.
I know this sounds ridiculous, but our Director of National Intelligence is possibly a Russian sympathizer, we know Russians interfered in our elections in 2016, they’ve paid money to conversative “news” outlets to distribute Russian propaganda, and in fact Russian propaganda has been MAGA talking points when it comes to Ukraine.
But I don’t think Trump is a Manchurian candidate. The Russians just happened to have their hooks in him and they probably laughed like loons when we elected him.
This is what I do believe,The reason Trump seems so beholden to Putin is that he sees how Putin took control of Russia, and how he created the oligarchs around him, and wants to do the same thing here.
I really believe he’s telling all his newfound billionaire friends “Back me and I’ll make you master of a whole swath of the economy.”
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Trump has a long history of cozying up to the Russians dating back to the 1980s, but I think greed was his primarily motivation for doing so. While I don’t believe he’s a Manchurian candidate, it seems pretty obvious he’s in Russia’s pocket for some reason. My best guess is that Russian money helped keep Trump in business for a number of years and he continues to benefit from remaining friendly with them.
I know this sounds ridiculous, but our Director of National Intelligence is possibly a Russian sympathizer, we know Russians interfered in our elections in 2016, they’ve paid money to conversative “news” outlets to distribute Russian propaganda, and in fact Russian propaganda has been MAGA talking points when it comes to Ukraine.
But I don’t think Trump is a Manchurian candidate. The Russians just happened to have their hooks in him and they probably laughed like loons when we elected him.
This is what I do believe,The reason Trump seems so beholden to Putin is that he sees how Putin took control of Russia, and how he created the oligarchs around him, and wants to do the same thing here.
I really believe he’s telling all his newfound billionaire friends “Back me and I’ll make you master of a whole swath of the economy.”
I light of Trumps position that Ukraine started the war with Russia by not bending over and giving in to Russian demands for Ukrainian sovereign soil, If I were Zelenskyy I’d very publicly start discussions with EU extraction corporations about sharing mineral profits with the EU in return for membership and weapons. Publicly, but the US not invited to that table.
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I light of Trumps position that Ukraine started the war with Russia by not bending over and giving in to Russian demands for Ukrainian sovereign soil, If I were Zelenskyy I’d very publicly start discussions with EU extraction corporations about sharing mineral profits with the EU in return for membership and weapons. Publicly, but the US not invited to that table.
Nothing more than sour grapes conspiracy theories from the left..
Thats magas answer for anything that is said about trump. Trump is the greatest human being ever born in this world and anything that is said about him is all lies and conspiracies. How people can become brain washed by human being is mind boggling. I guess people love being told what to believe and do by a criminal con artist, thats the only conclusion i can come up with. Trump now saying that he makes the law in our country, lolllllllllll. Right out of the hitler playbook
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Nothing more than sour grapes conspiracy theories from the left..
Thats magas answer for anything that is said about trump. Trump is the greatest human being ever born in this world and anything that is said about him is all lies and conspiracies. How people can become brain washed by human being is mind boggling. I guess people love being told what to believe and do by a criminal con artist, thats the only conclusion i can come up with. Trump now saying that he makes the law in our country, lolllllllllll. Right out of the hitler playbook
I keep seeing people say Putin has iron clad kompromat on Trump. What exactly could they hold over him that he couldn’t spin away and that MAGA wouldn’t ignore? Knowing the GOP’s look past Trump lapses of distasteful behavior it would have to be beyond depravity !
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I keep seeing people say Putin has iron clad kompromat on Trump. What exactly could they hold over him that he couldn’t spin away and that MAGA wouldn’t ignore? Knowing the GOP’s look past Trump lapses of distasteful behavior it would have to be beyond depravity !
I keep seeing people say Putin has iron clad kompromat on Trump. What exactly could they hold over him that he couldn’t spin away and that MAGA wouldn’t ignore? Knowing the GOP’s look past Trump lapses of distasteful behavior it would have to be beyond depravity !
Who are these people?
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
I keep seeing people say Putin has iron clad kompromat on Trump. What exactly could they hold over him that he couldn’t spin away and that MAGA wouldn’t ignore? Knowing the GOP’s look past Trump lapses of distasteful behavior it would have to be beyond depravity !
"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law,"
Delusional Trump sees himself as a king above the law while quoting Hitler and Napoleon. Contempt for the rule of law is among characteristics of fascism.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law,"
Delusional Trump sees himself as a king above the law while quoting Hitler and Napoleon. Contempt for the rule of law is among characteristics of fascism.
If anyone was a Manchurian prez it was Dementia Joe. I've never heard a POTUS say he would get in trouble for answering questions, nor have I ever seen a more protected one. What Prez has ever come out in a presser & said "I've been given a list of people to call on...."? That admin. was not transparent. The buck did not stop with Biden. He had little/no idea what he was doing or why he was there.
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If anyone was a Manchurian prez it was Dementia Joe. I've never heard a POTUS say he would get in trouble for answering questions, nor have I ever seen a more protected one. What Prez has ever come out in a presser & said "I've been given a list of people to call on...."? That admin. was not transparent. The buck did not stop with Biden. He had little/no idea what he was doing or why he was there.
Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: "He who saves his Country does not violate any Law," Delusional Trump sees himself as a king above the law while quoting Hitler and Napoleon. Contempt for the rule of law is among characteristics of fascism.
Where did he quote Hitler and/or Napoleon?
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: "He who saves his Country does not violate any Law," Delusional Trump sees himself as a king above the law while quoting Hitler and Napoleon. Contempt for the rule of law is among characteristics of fascism.
I’m sure you capable of find more factual opinions….Save the effort with Fox News …There still sore over the 800 million out of court settlement pushing disinformation about voting machines…..They got off much to easy! They should been totally exposed to the world as propagandists not a News outlet.
This is article on the 1st Trump term and his administration and the ties to Russia https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/
I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that?
One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender!
As I type this reply Trump is blaming Biden, Simply hilarious …Yet our entire congress gave Ukraines President a Stand ovation not long ago!
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I’m sure you capable of find more factual opinions….Save the effort with Fox News …There still sore over the 800 million out of court settlement pushing disinformation about voting machines…..They got off much to easy! They should been totally exposed to the world as propagandists not a News outlet.
This is article on the 1st Trump term and his administration and the ties to Russia https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/
I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that?
One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender!
As I type this reply Trump is blaming Biden, Simply hilarious …Yet our entire congress gave Ukraines President a Stand ovation not long ago!
/ I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that? One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender!
Rogue Trump goes against decades of US policies that ensured peace and security. He betrays allies and supports enemies. He wants to take US backward to more risky times.
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
/ I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that? One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender!
Rogue Trump goes against decades of US policies that ensured peace and security. He betrays allies and supports enemies. He wants to take US backward to more risky times.
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: / I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that? One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender! Rogue Trump goes against decades of US policies that ensured peace and security. He betrays allies and supports enemies. He wants to take US backward to more risky times.
What policies is he going against?
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: / I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that? One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender! Rogue Trump goes against decades of US policies that ensured peace and security. He betrays allies and supports enemies. He wants to take US backward to more risky times.
Are you not listening to Trumps rendition of the Ukraine war with Putin?….His words were exactly what has come out of Russia government news for the last 2 1/2 years… Trump has long ties to the country that use to be the USSR ! Why is it the people who hate America the most are supporting Republicans?.. And Republicans are proving them right, because most of them won't even stand and say he is full shit out of fear of being primaried out of office! …..Maybe Nikita was right when he said to western diplomats in the polish embassy in Moscow “ We will bury you”. Hopefully the GOP & supporters speak loudly in discontent in his favor of Putins wish list!
What president has had this many conflicts of interest the Trump embraces ? This is from a site Musk would like to control > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials
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@StumpTownStu
Are you not listening to Trumps rendition of the Ukraine war with Putin?….His words were exactly what has come out of Russia government news for the last 2 1/2 years… Trump has long ties to the country that use to be the USSR ! Why is it the people who hate America the most are supporting Republicans?.. And Republicans are proving them right, because most of them won't even stand and say he is full shit out of fear of being primaried out of office! …..Maybe Nikita was right when he said to western diplomats in the polish embassy in Moscow “ We will bury you”. Hopefully the GOP & supporters speak loudly in discontent in his favor of Putins wish list!
What president has had this many conflicts of interest the Trump embraces ? This is from a site Musk would like to control > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials
@StumpTownStu Are you not listening to Trumps rendition of the Ukraine war with Putin?….His words were exactly what has come out of Russia government news for the last 2 1/2 years… Trump has long ties to the country that use to be the USSR ! Why is it the people who hate America the most are supporting Republicans?.. And Republicans are proving them right, because most of them won't even stand and say he is full shit out of fear of being primaried out of office! …..Maybe Nikita was right when he said to western diplomats in the polish embassy in Moscow “ We will bury you”. Hopefully the GOP & supporters speak loudly in discontent in his favor of Putins wish list! What president has had this many conflicts of interest the Trump embraces ? This is from a site Musk would like to control > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials
How do you equate not giving military support to Ukraine with hating America? I would posit you have never read anything of substance about the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian conflicts yet you're here spouting nonsense.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
@StumpTownStu Are you not listening to Trumps rendition of the Ukraine war with Putin?….His words were exactly what has come out of Russia government news for the last 2 1/2 years… Trump has long ties to the country that use to be the USSR ! Why is it the people who hate America the most are supporting Republicans?.. And Republicans are proving them right, because most of them won't even stand and say he is full shit out of fear of being primaried out of office! …..Maybe Nikita was right when he said to western diplomats in the polish embassy in Moscow “ We will bury you”. Hopefully the GOP & supporters speak loudly in discontent in his favor of Putins wish list! What president has had this many conflicts of interest the Trump embraces ? This is from a site Musk would like to control > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials
How do you equate not giving military support to Ukraine with hating America? I would posit you have never read anything of substance about the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian conflicts yet you're here spouting nonsense.
Are you one of those people who google links to post without reading said link themselves? There's some pretty ridiculous dots that article tries to connect. Bringing up people like Anthony Scaramucci, or Michael Flynn, who had ties to foreign entities going back to when he was in Obama's cabinet. A guy who was in Trump's cabinet for less than a month.
Let me put you up on geo-political game. You would be hard pressed to find any world leader, or any high level business man, who doesn't have ties to foreign powers. Loans for business deals often come from foreign banks, for example. Politicians profit from their position. This was true of Biden. True of Obama. There is a recorded phone call of Biden, as vice president, doing the exact same things Trump was falsely accused of. Yet we still have liberals starting ridiculous threads about how Trump much be a manchurian candidate, which involves mind control, or how Putin must have dirt on Trump.
I wouldn't go as far as saying Ukraine started that conflict but you should at least educate yourself on the subject before posting on it. It's not so black and white.
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@joe pockets
Are you one of those people who google links to post without reading said link themselves? There's some pretty ridiculous dots that article tries to connect. Bringing up people like Anthony Scaramucci, or Michael Flynn, who had ties to foreign entities going back to when he was in Obama's cabinet. A guy who was in Trump's cabinet for less than a month.
Let me put you up on geo-political game. You would be hard pressed to find any world leader, or any high level business man, who doesn't have ties to foreign powers. Loans for business deals often come from foreign banks, for example. Politicians profit from their position. This was true of Biden. True of Obama. There is a recorded phone call of Biden, as vice president, doing the exact same things Trump was falsely accused of. Yet we still have liberals starting ridiculous threads about how Trump much be a manchurian candidate, which involves mind control, or how Putin must have dirt on Trump.
I wouldn't go as far as saying Ukraine started that conflict but you should at least educate yourself on the subject before posting on it. It's not so black and white.
Seriously, do you even know what a manchurian candidate is? What the reference means? Liberals on this site often throw around terms they don't even understand.
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@joe pockets
Seriously, do you even know what a manchurian candidate is? What the reference means? Liberals on this site often throw around terms they don't even understand.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: / I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that? One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender! Rogue Trump goes against decades of US policies that ensured peace and security. He betrays allies and supports enemies. He wants to take US backward to more risky times.What policies is he going against?
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: / I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that? One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender! Rogue Trump goes against decades of US policies that ensured peace and security. He betrays allies and supports enemies. He wants to take US backward to more risky times.What policies is he going against?
@joe pockets Seriously, do you even know what a manchurian candidate is? What the reference means? Liberals on this site often throw around terms they don't even understand.
manchurian candidate= A person from Manchuria who is running for a political office in that country ...right???
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
@joe pockets Seriously, do you even know what a manchurian candidate is? What the reference means? Liberals on this site often throw around terms they don't even understand.
manchurian candidate= A person from Manchuria who is running for a political office in that country ...right???
Do you know to read and comprehend! The title of the thread says ?..Some may call Trump Manchurian Candidate,! Others than being a convicted felon, a tax cheat & a habitual liar, I can’t prove that he is a Russian asset but he is sure behaving like he has stock in what Putin cooking ….at least as far I’m concerned! Michael Flynn went to jail under Trumps watch and he pardoned him I believe also Obama alerted Trump to the intelligence on Flynn which Trump disregared and that doesn’t surprise me in the least. I’m happy you read all the news worthy sites I post as there News sited not entrainment opinion shows like Jesse Walter’s etc etc etc Enjoy ! Oh military support Ukraine? Sure anytime someone is fighting and weakening your enemy to support him…Down the road would rather US soldiers fighting instead?
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@StumpTownStu
Do you know to read and comprehend! The title of the thread says ?..Some may call Trump Manchurian Candidate,! Others than being a convicted felon, a tax cheat & a habitual liar, I can’t prove that he is a Russian asset but he is sure behaving like he has stock in what Putin cooking ….at least as far I’m concerned! Michael Flynn went to jail under Trumps watch and he pardoned him I believe also Obama alerted Trump to the intelligence on Flynn which Trump disregared and that doesn’t surprise me in the least. I’m happy you read all the news worthy sites I post as there News sited not entrainment opinion shows like Jesse Walter’s etc etc etc Enjoy ! Oh military support Ukraine? Sure anytime someone is fighting and weakening your enemy to support him…Down the road would rather US soldiers fighting instead?
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: "He who saves his Country does not violate any Law," Delusional Trump sees himself as a king above the law while quoting Hitler and Napoleon. Contempt for the rule of law is among characteristics of fascism. Where did he quote Hitler and/or Napoleon?
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: "He who saves his Country does not violate any Law," Delusional Trump sees himself as a king above the law while quoting Hitler and Napoleon. Contempt for the rule of law is among characteristics of fascism. Where did he quote Hitler and/or Napoleon?
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: / I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that? One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender! Rogue Trump goes against decades of US policies that ensured peace and security. He betrays allies and supports enemies. He wants to take US backward to more risky times.What policies is he going against?
How about transgender people serving in the military?
How about government DEI programs?
How about his attempt to seize Congress' spending power?
How about the foreign anti bribery statute?
How about not having the constitutional authority to shut down USAID?
How about trying to undermine birthright citizenship?
How about firing government watchdogs without the proper required notice?
That should keep you busy defending.
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: / I personally find the direction of Trump's involvement very disturbing .To all our soldiers who lived on a razor's edge for 45-years, Trump is giving back our Cold War victory to Putin. Think about that? One face the fact that Trump’s understanding of recent history suggests he’s not negotiating for a ceasefire, he is offering Ukraine’s surrender! Rogue Trump goes against decades of US policies that ensured peace and security. He betrays allies and supports enemies. He wants to take US backward to more risky times.What policies is he going against?
How about transgender people serving in the military?
How about government DEI programs?
How about his attempt to seize Congress' spending power?
How about the foreign anti bribery statute?
How about not having the constitutional authority to shut down USAID?
How about trying to undermine birthright citizenship?
How about firing government watchdogs without the proper required notice?
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