Whats the big deal here ? Tump payed her 130 g's to have his way with her for a night and now she is trying to shake him down for more dough ! His wife was sore from having Barron putting her on light duty, What a guy with Billions of dollars and a jet going to do ? She should be thankful that she didn't have to chase him to bankruptcy court like the rest the folks he screwed.....He was lucky to be born rich and the Bums. " 49 % " are jealous of him
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Whats the big deal here ? Tump payed her 130 g's to have his way with her for a night and now she is trying to shake him down for more dough ! His wife was sore from having Barron putting her on light duty, What a guy with Billions of dollars and a jet going to do ? She should be thankful that she didn't have to chase him to bankruptcy court like the rest the folks he screwed.....He was lucky to be born rich and the Bums. " 49 % " are jealous of him
This is America were a person is... innocent until proven guilty....not the the People's Republic of China were you are... guilty until proven innocent. ..
At this point we do not know,if any of the accusations from Stephanie Gregory Clifford...( odd middle name ..I wonder if she is really a .....nevermind ) a.k.a Stormy Daniels is true..
But, if President Trump is someone you don't like lets use libel and induce disparaging comments to defame him...and just assume he is guilty.. no wonder a socialist almost beat Hillary in the Democrat primaries..
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This is America were a person is... innocent until proven guilty....not the the People's Republic of China were you are... guilty until proven innocent. ..
At this point we do not know,if any of the accusations from Stephanie Gregory Clifford...( odd middle name ..I wonder if she is really a .....nevermind ) a.k.a Stormy Daniels is true..
But, if President Trump is someone you don't like lets use libel and induce disparaging comments to defame him...and just assume he is guilty.. no wonder a socialist almost beat Hillary in the Democrat primaries..
Dead horse to beat for the Dems. Did they NOT learn a thing from MLK, Jr or JFK??? Noone gives a damn about who someone is banging. Even the Dems backed Clinton after hosing Monica in the WH. NOONE CARES.
So are you Christian or not? Do you care that he broke his vows in several marriages and paid women off to silence them? Is this the kind of leader we should be proud of for this country?
Of course he slept with this lady, she knows way too much detail and has information...that is why Trump is quite concerned..of course he slept with her AND many others. A serial cheater like Trump has done this many many times, he did it before and he has done it many times more. If you are Christian and care about ethics and character yeah it should matter to you.
Oh and I am not wanting to discuss this democrat or that democrat, he is the leader he is the one in question here and the issue is his actions and cheating reflect his character and decision making..he hides his actions, he hides his business dealings and tax filings, he suppresses affairs he has...this isnt made up, she knows way too much and he has many repeated, correlated mannerisms from several women he cheated with.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:
Dead horse to beat for the Dems. Did they NOT learn a thing from MLK, Jr or JFK??? Noone gives a damn about who someone is banging. Even the Dems backed Clinton after hosing Monica in the WH. NOONE CARES.
So are you Christian or not? Do you care that he broke his vows in several marriages and paid women off to silence them? Is this the kind of leader we should be proud of for this country?
Of course he slept with this lady, she knows way too much detail and has information...that is why Trump is quite concerned..of course he slept with her AND many others. A serial cheater like Trump has done this many many times, he did it before and he has done it many times more. If you are Christian and care about ethics and character yeah it should matter to you.
Oh and I am not wanting to discuss this democrat or that democrat, he is the leader he is the one in question here and the issue is his actions and cheating reflect his character and decision making..he hides his actions, he hides his business dealings and tax filings, he suppresses affairs he has...this isnt made up, she knows way too much and he has many repeated, correlated mannerisms from several women he cheated with.
Someones sexual past should not be held against them, if their infidelity is behind them....as with Mary Magdalene who is said, to have had a sexual past ... was honored by being the first person to whom Jesus appeared after his resurrection..
The Lord Jesus Christ is full of compassion and mercy. ..and HE should be the only one to judge others ...that is unless you are without sin..toss away..
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Someones sexual past should not be held against them, if their infidelity is behind them....as with Mary Magdalene who is said, to have had a sexual past ... was honored by being the first person to whom Jesus appeared after his resurrection..
The Lord Jesus Christ is full of compassion and mercy. ..and HE should be the only one to judge others ...that is unless you are without sin..toss away..
Someones sexual past should not be held against them, if their infidelity is behind them....as with Mary Magdalene who is said, to have had a sexual past ... was honored by being the first person to whom Jesus appeared after his resurrection..The Lord Jesus Christ is full of compassion and mercy. ..and HE should be the only one to judge others ...that is unless you are without sin..toss away..
Oyyyyyy you are killing me here. You work way too hard giving a pass to Trump. I dont care his sexual past, much like Clinton I dont think it is really too important to the office..but CHRISTIANS who did vote for the guy DO care and they are why he was elected...so to them it should matter.
The issue for me is what I said above...he has a history and past of cheating and dark dealing, he hides information and is not trustworthy to me for a variety of reasons, one of them being his long string of infidelity. It is indicative of his character, or lack of character. The way he treats others (using your Christ reference) is very telling of him as a person. So do unto others as you would have them do unto you, turn the other cheek, respect all people and treat them as you want to be treated...those SS are also Bible references and all of which Trump fails.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Someones sexual past should not be held against them, if their infidelity is behind them....as with Mary Magdalene who is said, to have had a sexual past ... was honored by being the first person to whom Jesus appeared after his resurrection..The Lord Jesus Christ is full of compassion and mercy. ..and HE should be the only one to judge others ...that is unless you are without sin..toss away..
Oyyyyyy you are killing me here. You work way too hard giving a pass to Trump. I dont care his sexual past, much like Clinton I dont think it is really too important to the office..but CHRISTIANS who did vote for the guy DO care and they are why he was elected...so to them it should matter.
The issue for me is what I said above...he has a history and past of cheating and dark dealing, he hides information and is not trustworthy to me for a variety of reasons, one of them being his long string of infidelity. It is indicative of his character, or lack of character. The way he treats others (using your Christ reference) is very telling of him as a person. So do unto others as you would have them do unto you, turn the other cheek, respect all people and treat them as you want to be treated...those SS are also Bible references and all of which Trump fails.
The way he treats others (using your Christ reference) is very telling of him as a person. So do unto others as you would have them do unto you, turn the other cheek, respect all people and treat them as you want to be treated...those SS are also Bible references and all of which Trump fails.
If,you are going to use the Golden Rule do not forget to include the lesson from Jesus about loving our enemies...
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
The way he treats others (using your Christ reference) is very telling of him as a person. So do unto others as you would have them do unto you, turn the other cheek, respect all people and treat them as you want to be treated...those SS are also Bible references and all of which Trump fails.
If,you are going to use the Golden Rule do not forget to include the lesson from Jesus about loving our enemies...
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sabanesque: Dead horse to beat for the Dems. Did they NOT learn a thing from MLK, Jr or JFK??? Noone gives a damn about who someone is banging. Even the Dems backed Clinton after hosing Monica in the WH. NOONE CARES. So are you Christian or not? Do you care that he broke his vows in several marriages and paid women off to silence them? Is this the kind of leader we should be proud of for this country? Of course he slept with this lady, she knows way too much detail and has information...that is why Trump is quite concerned..of course he slept with her AND many others. A serial cheater like Trump has done this many many times, he did it before and he has done it many times more. If you are Christian and care about ethics and character yeah it should matter to you. Oh and I am not wanting to discuss this democrat or that democrat, he is the leader he is the one in question here and the issue is his actions and cheating reflect his character and decision making..he hides his actions, he hides his business dealings and tax filings, he suppresses affairs he has...this isnt made up, she knows way too much and he has many repeated, correlated mannerisms from several women he cheated with.
Trump supporters deflect and distract , JUST LIKE DON THE CON ALWAYS HAS
Its like asking a 9 yr old why they got in trouble in school today = " well Jenny did this , and Mike did that' ..
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
QUOTE Originally Posted by Sabanesque: Dead horse to beat for the Dems. Did they NOT learn a thing from MLK, Jr or JFK??? Noone gives a damn about who someone is banging. Even the Dems backed Clinton after hosing Monica in the WH. NOONE CARES. So are you Christian or not? Do you care that he broke his vows in several marriages and paid women off to silence them? Is this the kind of leader we should be proud of for this country? Of course he slept with this lady, she knows way too much detail and has information...that is why Trump is quite concerned..of course he slept with her AND many others. A serial cheater like Trump has done this many many times, he did it before and he has done it many times more. If you are Christian and care about ethics and character yeah it should matter to you. Oh and I am not wanting to discuss this democrat or that democrat, he is the leader he is the one in question here and the issue is his actions and cheating reflect his character and decision making..he hides his actions, he hides his business dealings and tax filings, he suppresses affairs he has...this isnt made up, she knows way too much and he has many repeated, correlated mannerisms from several women he cheated with.
Trump supporters deflect and distract , JUST LIKE DON THE CON ALWAYS HAS
Its like asking a 9 yr old why they got in trouble in school today = " well Jenny did this , and Mike did that' ..
As far as Christianity is concerned, I think the number ONE issue for Christians is ABORTION, not divorce or infidelity. Trump is several times divorced and children with diff wives, and this didn't bother Christians to the degree that abortion is their number one concern.
Some FACTS: There are approximately a million abortions a year, and most are funded.
A fetus is not an extension of female organs.
Abortion is the leading cause of death in America.
A birth is what ends a pregnancy.
An abortion ends a life.
It is a worldwide phenomenon. In Arab countries, abortions are so common, as husbands prefer males, and they will abort girls until a male is confirmed. In China, abortions are performed for economic reasons: to avoid penalties for eceeding the 1 child regualtions.
Forgiveness and compassion are the main tenets of Christianity. Jesus, the Christ (Messiah) died for our sins. Christ's suffering on the cross is a message and calling to Christians to have COM-passion, or sharing Christ's PASSION. These are the major tenets of Christianity.
The compassion for the unborn is very Christian, as well as the forgivemness of past infidelities.
Trumps lacks basic compassion ...
His only values are self preservation
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:
It does bother me, yes.
As far as Christianity is concerned, I think the number ONE issue for Christians is ABORTION, not divorce or infidelity. Trump is several times divorced and children with diff wives, and this didn't bother Christians to the degree that abortion is their number one concern.
Some FACTS: There are approximately a million abortions a year, and most are funded.
A fetus is not an extension of female organs.
Abortion is the leading cause of death in America.
A birth is what ends a pregnancy.
An abortion ends a life.
It is a worldwide phenomenon. In Arab countries, abortions are so common, as husbands prefer males, and they will abort girls until a male is confirmed. In China, abortions are performed for economic reasons: to avoid penalties for eceeding the 1 child regualtions.
Forgiveness and compassion are the main tenets of Christianity. Jesus, the Christ (Messiah) died for our sins. Christ's suffering on the cross is a message and calling to Christians to have COM-passion, or sharing Christ's PASSION. These are the major tenets of Christianity.
The compassion for the unborn is very Christian, as well as the forgivemness of past infidelities.
I don’t mind who Trump has slept with. Most of us would have far different sexual lives if we were billionaires in Manhattan. I just want him to keep the promises he made on the campaign trail.
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I don’t mind who Trump has slept with. Most of us would have far different sexual lives if we were billionaires in Manhattan. I just want him to keep the promises he made on the campaign trail.
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: The way he treats others (using your Christ reference) is very telling of him as a person. So do unto others as you would have them do unto you, turn the other cheek, respect all people and treat them as you want to be treated...those SS are also Bible references and all of which Trump fails. If,you are going to use the Golden Rule do not forget to include the lesson from Jesus about loving our enemies...
I intentionally left that out because it was overkill...Trump fails at treating those who abuse and use you with great respect and love your enemy. I considered it but the point was more than made. YET even fake ultra-Christians like you will give him a pass even though he pretty much breaks every rule of kindness Christ taught.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: The way he treats others (using your Christ reference) is very telling of him as a person. So do unto others as you would have them do unto you, turn the other cheek, respect all people and treat them as you want to be treated...those SS are also Bible references and all of which Trump fails. If,you are going to use the Golden Rule do not forget to include the lesson from Jesus about loving our enemies...
I intentionally left that out because it was overkill...Trump fails at treating those who abuse and use you with great respect and love your enemy. I considered it but the point was more than made. YET even fake ultra-Christians like you will give him a pass even though he pretty much breaks every rule of kindness Christ taught.
I don’t mind who Trump has slept with. Most of us would have far different sexual lives if we were billionaires in Manhattan. I just want him to keep the promises he made on the campaign trail.
Promises....so do you know how that works? Break promises in your personal life, in your business dealings, in how you treat others....there are patterns here for sure. He made so many campaign fake promises that he has no shot at keeping even a part of the portion he made. Pattern of behavior....
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
I don’t mind who Trump has slept with. Most of us would have far different sexual lives if we were billionaires in Manhattan. I just want him to keep the promises he made on the campaign trail.
Promises....so do you know how that works? Break promises in your personal life, in your business dealings, in how you treat others....there are patterns here for sure. He made so many campaign fake promises that he has no shot at keeping even a part of the portion he made. Pattern of behavior....
I intentionally left that out because it was overkill...Trump fails at treating those who abuse and use you with great respect and love your enemy. I considered it but the point was more than made. YET even fake ultra-Christians like you will give him a pass even though he pretty much breaks every rule of kindness Christ taught.
I have more Christian in my little finger than you have in your whole holier-than-thou body....
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
I intentionally left that out because it was overkill...Trump fails at treating those who abuse and use you with great respect and love your enemy. I considered it but the point was more than made. YET even fake ultra-Christians like you will give him a pass even though he pretty much breaks every rule of kindness Christ taught.
I have more Christian in my little finger than you have in your whole holier-than-thou body....
I intentionally left that out because it was overkill...Trump fails at treating those who abuse and use you with great respect and love your enemy. I considered it but the point was more than made. YET even fake ultra-Christians like you will give him a pass even though he pretty much breaks every rule of kindness Christ taught.
That's too funny ...lmao
Now, I know that's an un-truth..you have never been shy about using an overkill on someone....you got one upped and are not humble or honest enough to admit it..
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
I intentionally left that out because it was overkill...Trump fails at treating those who abuse and use you with great respect and love your enemy. I considered it but the point was more than made. YET even fake ultra-Christians like you will give him a pass even though he pretty much breaks every rule of kindness Christ taught.
That's too funny ...lmao
Now, I know that's an un-truth..you have never been shy about using an overkill on someone....you got one upped and are not humble or honest enough to admit it..
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: I intentionally left that out because it was overkill...Trump fails at treating those who abuse and use you with great respect and love your enemy. I considered it but the point was more than made. YET even fake ultra-Christians like you will give him a pass even though he pretty much breaks every rule of kindness Christ taught. I have more Christian in my little finger than you have in your whole holier-than-thou body....
I said that because it is true....if you really were an ultra-conservative then you would not back Trump as you do. You rationalize his Christian abuses and excuse them because they support your political views. That is not being an ultra-Christian. There is nothing wrong with your position but yeah you are a fake ultra because you speak it but you do not act on it. An ultra-Christian would N-E-V-E-R support a candidate who cheated on their spouse and verbally attacks and abuses others how Trump does. He does not follow the teachings of Christ, he hurts others and thus is hurting Christianity. I think our definitions of ultra vary, you are a moderate in my view...picking and choosing where and when you are Christian...excusing immoral behavior and non-Christ like actions because YOU want to support a politician who has some of your positions and will forward some of what you agree with. THAT is not Christianity.
btw...Christ was so much a socialist I find it funny how Christians act as if the NT didnt exist and what Christ did in action and taught in principal did not really happen.
And believe it or not I omitted what I said...I can overkill you to death because it is easy...Trump is as far from Christian as you can get, his abuses and trampling of the 10 C's get boring to state.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
QUOTE Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: I intentionally left that out because it was overkill...Trump fails at treating those who abuse and use you with great respect and love your enemy. I considered it but the point was more than made. YET even fake ultra-Christians like you will give him a pass even though he pretty much breaks every rule of kindness Christ taught. I have more Christian in my little finger than you have in your whole holier-than-thou body....
I said that because it is true....if you really were an ultra-conservative then you would not back Trump as you do. You rationalize his Christian abuses and excuse them because they support your political views. That is not being an ultra-Christian. There is nothing wrong with your position but yeah you are a fake ultra because you speak it but you do not act on it. An ultra-Christian would N-E-V-E-R support a candidate who cheated on their spouse and verbally attacks and abuses others how Trump does. He does not follow the teachings of Christ, he hurts others and thus is hurting Christianity. I think our definitions of ultra vary, you are a moderate in my view...picking and choosing where and when you are Christian...excusing immoral behavior and non-Christ like actions because YOU want to support a politician who has some of your positions and will forward some of what you agree with. THAT is not Christianity.
btw...Christ was so much a socialist I find it funny how Christians act as if the NT didnt exist and what Christ did in action and taught in principal did not really happen.
And believe it or not I omitted what I said...I can overkill you to death because it is easy...Trump is as far from Christian as you can get, his abuses and trampling of the 10 C's get boring to state.
The problem with Trump is the complete lack of integrity & morality in their true & larger sense. Not about just telling incessant lies when it suits his interests (which he does regularly) or sexual escapades/ infidelities which I care little about, but about his duties & responsibility toward the constitution as potus & the people in this country. All I see here from the hardcore Trumpsters are the same tactics Trump uses himself....deflection, misdirection & gaslighting.
Unfortunately, Trump has the worst possible combination of personal traits (self-centered, narcissistic know it all...."I know more than the generals do".." only I can fix it") & corresponding lack of knowledge/understanding while truly believing his backwards ruminations, out-of-date vision is best. That is truly dangerous in a number of ways (in the political climate that exists today) when living/breathing in a potus whose life long motto has been win at all costs regardless of anything else. Not to mention that all of his own words & actions/inactions would lead any objective, non-partisan citizen to think he is severely compromised or been leveraged in some way by Putin/Russia. We've never had a potus that was more unqualified & unfit at an extremely critical/dangerous time in our history. Should not be a partisan, left/right deal at all, but that's how screwed up we've become & there's many obvious reasons for that as well.
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The problem with Trump is the complete lack of integrity & morality in their true & larger sense. Not about just telling incessant lies when it suits his interests (which he does regularly) or sexual escapades/ infidelities which I care little about, but about his duties & responsibility toward the constitution as potus & the people in this country. All I see here from the hardcore Trumpsters are the same tactics Trump uses himself....deflection, misdirection & gaslighting.
Unfortunately, Trump has the worst possible combination of personal traits (self-centered, narcissistic know it all...."I know more than the generals do".." only I can fix it") & corresponding lack of knowledge/understanding while truly believing his backwards ruminations, out-of-date vision is best. That is truly dangerous in a number of ways (in the political climate that exists today) when living/breathing in a potus whose life long motto has been win at all costs regardless of anything else. Not to mention that all of his own words & actions/inactions would lead any objective, non-partisan citizen to think he is severely compromised or been leveraged in some way by Putin/Russia. We've never had a potus that was more unqualified & unfit at an extremely critical/dangerous time in our history. Should not be a partisan, left/right deal at all, but that's how screwed up we've become & there's many obvious reasons for that as well.
btw...Christ was so much a socialist I find it funny how Christians act as if the NT didnt exist and what Christ did in action and taught in principal did not really happen.
And believe it or not I omitted what I said...I can overkill you to death because it is easy...Trump is as far from Christian as you can get, his abuses and trampling of the 10 C's get boring to state.
Well it looks like you tipped your hole card Mr.Cappers ..claiming Christ was a socialist..Jesus Christ was definitely not a socialist.
By saying so you are showing you lack a mature understanding of Christ’s teaching... Definition of socialism. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownershipand administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
Jesus, was the Son of God... He was not of the government.... NT.. Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's....In socialism you render to the Government..not God. Jesus Christ taught that here is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God....Not by man.
80% of white Christian evangelical voters voted for Donald Trump ....in the ten's of millions and most still support him.....Why ?
Because, they believed that a leader's character is often less important than his policies.....Donald Trump ran to be the President of America and leader of our country..not the Pope of America..
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
btw...Christ was so much a socialist I find it funny how Christians act as if the NT didnt exist and what Christ did in action and taught in principal did not really happen.
And believe it or not I omitted what I said...I can overkill you to death because it is easy...Trump is as far from Christian as you can get, his abuses and trampling of the 10 C's get boring to state.
Well it looks like you tipped your hole card Mr.Cappers ..claiming Christ was a socialist..Jesus Christ was definitely not a socialist.
By saying so you are showing you lack a mature understanding of Christ’s teaching... Definition of socialism. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownershipand administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
Jesus, was the Son of God... He was not of the government.... NT.. Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's....In socialism you render to the Government..not God. Jesus Christ taught that here is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God....Not by man.
80% of white Christian evangelical voters voted for Donald Trump ....in the ten's of millions and most still support him.....Why ?
Because, they believed that a leader's character is often less important than his policies.....Donald Trump ran to be the President of America and leader of our country..not the Pope of America..
Leave it to you SS to miss the point, see socialism is not ONLY a political term, socialism is not only about government..think of more of a collectivism approach than just how you are thinking regarding political and government only.
Christ lived a communal style life, sharing and giving and everyone working together to provide for all, kind of similar to how the Amish function where there is a common purpose and goal and shared resources. His life was not about government and politics but the principals he shared have implications in society.
Socialism in its political only definition for sure does not exactly equate because as you said Christ deferred government and did not want any involvement in the institution or process.
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Leave it to you SS to miss the point, see socialism is not ONLY a political term, socialism is not only about government..think of more of a collectivism approach than just how you are thinking regarding political and government only.
Christ lived a communal style life, sharing and giving and everyone working together to provide for all, kind of similar to how the Amish function where there is a common purpose and goal and shared resources. His life was not about government and politics but the principals he shared have implications in society.
Socialism in its political only definition for sure does not exactly equate because as you said Christ deferred government and did not want any involvement in the institution or process.
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