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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2017 - 11:31 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    Why not give freebies to everyone and no one will ever have to work again?

    According to National welfare council, one myth is that welfare recipients are lazy and don't want to work.  Actually, most adults on welfare are hard working tax paying citizens.  In some industries, wages are so low that  employees are eligible for government assistance.  Besides, most benefit programs require recipients to work in order to collect.  Other recipients are poor children, elderly and disabled people who legally or physically cannot work.  Welfare is a temporary social safety net effective in reducing poverty which helps to boost the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    Why not give freebies to everyone and no one will ever have to work again?

    According to National welfare council, one myth is that welfare recipients are lazy and don't want to work.  Actually, most adults on welfare are hard working tax paying citizens.  In some industries, wages are so low that  employees are eligible for government assistance.  Besides, most benefit programs require recipients to work in order to collect.  Other recipients are poor children, elderly and disabled people who legally or physically cannot work.  Welfare is a temporary social safety net effective in reducing poverty which helps to boost the economy.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2017 - 11:40 AM ET #27

    You can cut taxes as low as you want hell get rid of them if you want but until you cut gov't spending/workforce of gov't 30% in every area but the military it won't matter. You have to reform Social Security Medicaid Medicare and welfare{I'd eliminate them but thats me}No one here got my joke in the earlier part of the thread. Not 1 person at any Trump rally chanted "We're tired of faxes cut the taxes!" We chanted "Build the wall Deport them all!"

    Immigration must be reformed/reduced{I'd reduce it to zero} and the wall needs to be built. He can grow the economy at 20% but if a wall doesn't go up....he ain't winning in 2020an_light

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    You can cut taxes as low as you want hell get rid of them if you want but until you cut gov't spending/workforce of gov't 30% in every area but the military it won't matter. You have to reform Social Security Medicaid Medicare and welfare{I'd eliminate them but thats me}No one here got my joke in the earlier part of the thread. Not 1 person at any Trump rally chanted "We're tired of faxes cut the taxes!" We chanted "Build the wall Deport them all!"

    Immigration must be reformed/reduced{I'd reduce it to zero} and the wall needs to be built. He can grow the economy at 20% but if a wall doesn't go up....he ain't winning in 2020an_light

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2017 - 12:52 PM ET #28

    While you are it packers1992 (typical freaking millennial) just build a wall around Washington D.C. You know, keep out all those a-hole old folks that will be storming the capital with knives, scythes and pitchforks bcaus they are the Old Undeveloped Generation. All they did was provide food, housing, schools, colleges, education, trucks, buses, televisions, video games and cell phones while you were growing up and couldn't even wipe your own behind. You don't need those folks to subsidize your rearing and development anymore, so get rid of them! Kill them all, they are standing in the way of your happiness! F-ck them. YOU count, they don't. 

    You don't know the meaning of Society, do you? You don't know the meaning of "We the People" do you? You don't know the meaning of contracted debt (Social Security & Medicare) do you? 

    You don't know the meaning of helping others that cannot possibly help themselves do you? You don't think of your education as subsidized by thousands of taxpayers because your parents and millions of others could not possibly afford it on their own, DO YOU? 

    You literally sicken me. You are probably the most egotistical, undeveloped, under-educated, self-centered immature brat in existence. I repeat an earlier request,   

    PLEASE DON'T BREED. 

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    While you are it packers1992 (typical freaking millennial) just build a wall around Washington D.C. You know, keep out all those a-hole old folks that will be storming the capital with knives, scythes and pitchforks bcaus they are the Old Undeveloped Generation. All they did was provide food, housing, schools, colleges, education, trucks, buses, televisions, video games and cell phones while you were growing up and couldn't even wipe your own behind. You don't need those folks to subsidize your rearing and development anymore, so get rid of them! Kill them all, they are standing in the way of your happiness! F-ck them. YOU count, they don't. 

    You don't know the meaning of Society, do you? You don't know the meaning of "We the People" do you? You don't know the meaning of contracted debt (Social Security & Medicare) do you? 

    You don't know the meaning of helping others that cannot possibly help themselves do you? You don't think of your education as subsidized by thousands of taxpayers because your parents and millions of others could not possibly afford it on their own, DO YOU? 

    You literally sicken me. You are probably the most egotistical, undeveloped, under-educated, self-centered immature brat in existence. I repeat an earlier request,   

    PLEASE DON'T BREED. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2017 - 2:28 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by thirdperson: Historically, tax cuts occur often in the US.  Not hard for Bush, Obama and probably Trump too.  Since republicans are desperate for any legislative victory, tax bill is likely to pass even if it is flawed.However most Americans feel that the rich don't deserve more tax cuts.  Most economists doubt that tax cuts could boost economy and jobs so much that they pay for themselves.  Tax cuts are less effective in creating jobs than government spending in infrastructure and social programs. No solid proof that voodoo economics worked for Reagan or other Presidents. Past tax cuts resulted in greater government deficits and debt.  In Kansas, big tax cuts lead to spending cuts to vital programs and higher taxes afterwards.  US has the most income inequality in the world.  But tax cuts can increase gap between rich and poor.   Keep spouting the liberal fake news slogans. What do you want Socialism? Why not give freebies to everyone and no one will ever have to work again? America stands for Capitalism and we must do everything we can to make sure it prospers.

    doubledown -- you are not very smart are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doubleadownon12:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by thirdperson: Historically, tax cuts occur often in the US.  Not hard for Bush, Obama and probably Trump too.  Since republicans are desperate for any legislative victory, tax bill is likely to pass even if it is flawed.However most Americans feel that the rich don't deserve more tax cuts.  Most economists doubt that tax cuts could boost economy and jobs so much that they pay for themselves.  Tax cuts are less effective in creating jobs than government spending in infrastructure and social programs. No solid proof that voodoo economics worked for Reagan or other Presidents. Past tax cuts resulted in greater government deficits and debt.  In Kansas, big tax cuts lead to spending cuts to vital programs and higher taxes afterwards.  US has the most income inequality in the world.  But tax cuts can increase gap between rich and poor.   Keep spouting the liberal fake news slogans. What do you want Socialism? Why not give freebies to everyone and no one will ever have to work again? America stands for Capitalism and we must do everything we can to make sure it prospers.

    doubledown -- you are not very smart are you?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2017 - 2:32 PM ET #30

    As clubdirt elouquently laid out earlier in this thread (way better than anything I have seen by the way) we are already living in a real time experiment of "trickle down economics". It is failing miserably and by the numbers worse than ever in our history. The proof is here already. Coorporate profits at an all time high, bonuses to CEOs etc. at an all time high etc. Yet the wage gap is the largest in history. 

    That speaks volumes and is all the evidence you need.

    Trickle down economics has always been a farce and is even more so right now. to support this tax bill is about as ignorant as can be.

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    As clubdirt elouquently laid out earlier in this thread (way better than anything I have seen by the way) we are already living in a real time experiment of "trickle down economics". It is failing miserably and by the numbers worse than ever in our history. The proof is here already. Coorporate profits at an all time high, bonuses to CEOs etc. at an all time high etc. Yet the wage gap is the largest in history. 

    That speaks volumes and is all the evidence you need.

    Trickle down economics has always been a farce and is even more so right now. to support this tax bill is about as ignorant as can be.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2017 - 1:25 PM ET #31

    trickle down bullshit with a big helping of senators and trump lining their own pockets. 

    https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/republican-senators-will-save-millions-special-real-estate-tax-break-2630037
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    trickle down bullshit with a big helping of senators and trump lining their own pockets. 

    https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/republican-senators-will-save-millions-special-real-estate-tax-break-2630037
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2017 - 9:57 AM ET #32

    I see my liberal friends are giving us their doomsday predictions. Let's make a deal. We can revisit this thread in mid 2019 and you guys can tell us how bad YOUR life has gotten once the tax cuts take effect. Just don't come back using phrases like infrastructure, working families, or the spotted owl is dying. Unless YOU know of a crumbling bridge/building collapsing or YOU know of a family starving because of the tax cuts, then words like infrastructure and working families are just abstract terms.
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    I see my liberal friends are giving us their doomsday predictions. Let's make a deal. We can revisit this thread in mid 2019 and you guys can tell us how bad YOUR life has gotten once the tax cuts take effect. Just don't come back using phrases like infrastructure, working families, or the spotted owl is dying. Unless YOU know of a crumbling bridge/building collapsing or YOU know of a family starving because of the tax cuts, then words like infrastructure and working families are just abstract terms.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2017 - 10:29 AM ET #33

    https://taxplancalculator.com/

    Cano, what are you going to invest all of your extra money in? 

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    https://taxplancalculator.com/

    Cano, what are you going to invest all of your extra money in? 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2017 - 11:12 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    https://taxplancalculator.com/

    Cano, what are you going to invest all of your extra money in? 



    I'm going to Vegas and apply the MattBrot principle to blackjack and see if I can double my money
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    https://taxplancalculator.com/

    Cano, what are you going to invest all of your extra money in? 



    I'm going to Vegas and apply the MattBrot principle to blackjack and see if I can double my money
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2017 - 12:23 PM ET #35

    We should get rid of the welfare state. It has proven to be a failure. The reason why black and Hispanic people are doing so bad statistically is because 50% of them are on welfare. 

    You need to be on the ladder, to move up the ladder. 
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    We should get rid of the welfare state. It has proven to be a failure. The reason why black and Hispanic people are doing so bad statistically is because 50% of them are on welfare. 

    You need to be on the ladder, to move up the ladder. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2017 - 12:42 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: https://taxplancalculator.com/Cano, what are you going to invest all of your extra money in?  I'm going to Vegas and apply the MattBrot principle to blackjack and see if I can double my money
     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    https://taxplancalculator.com/Cano, what are you going to invest all of your extra money in?
    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: https://taxplancalculator.com/Cano, what are you going to invest all of your extra money in?  I'm going to Vegas and apply the MattBrot principle to blackjack and see if I can double my money
     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    https://taxplancalculator.com/Cano, what are you going to invest all of your extra money in?
    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2017 - 12:45 PM ET #37

    If all these doomsday talk is true, all of you saying this should be so happy right now. Because it will me Dems sweep this year and Trump gets impeached...

    So again why aren't you celebrating? 

    an_light

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    If all these doomsday talk is true, all of you saying this should be so happy right now. Because it will me Dems sweep this year and Trump gets impeached...

    So again why aren't you celebrating? 

    an_light

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2017 - 7:24 PM ET #38

    AT&T announces it will pay a special $1000 bonus to more than 200,000 AT&T employees as a result of the tax bill
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    AT&T announces it will pay a special $1000 bonus to more than 200,000 AT&T employees as a result of the tax bill
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2017 - 2:58 PM ET #39

    we got these guys a massive tax cut.  just in time. that was a close one.   


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-27/world-s-wealthiest-gain-1-trillion-in-17-on-market-exuberance?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics
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    we got these guys a massive tax cut.  just in time. that was a close one.   


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-27/world-s-wealthiest-gain-1-trillion-in-17-on-market-exuberance?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2017 - 7:26 PM ET #40

    Democrat and owner of the liberal rag Washington Post tops the list. 




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    Democrat and owner of the liberal rag Washington Post tops the list. 




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