Trump had unemployment under 4% for a full year before Mr Science unleashed covid on the world.
Biden is the beneficiary of trillions of printed money which allowed the work force to bring back workers which lowered UI.
Currently UI is under 4%, however has been increasing since July of 22'. UI is predicted to continue to increase throughout the winter.
Trump held UI under 4% longer than biden without the help of printed money.
UI hit a low of 1.2% in 1944. So yes, an administration has had lower UI unlike the claim from fubduh about his historically low UI. 3.7% is NOT a historically low. Try again.
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Trump had unemployment under 4% for a full year before Mr Science unleashed covid on the world.
Biden is the beneficiary of trillions of printed money which allowed the work force to bring back workers which lowered UI.
Currently UI is under 4%, however has been increasing since July of 22'. UI is predicted to continue to increase throughout the winter.
Trump held UI under 4% longer than biden without the help of printed money.
UI hit a low of 1.2% in 1944. So yes, an administration has had lower UI unlike the claim from fubduh about his historically low UI. 3.7% is NOT a historically low. Try again.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: And historically low unemployment as well! Other than Biden, no administration has ever achieved and held unemployment this low for this long in the history of our nation. biden admin
Never achieved before. Truly historic!
unpredented achievement !!!
and truly amazing in wake of the fuckin disaster left for america by the perennial loser ,donnie chump
and by the way
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: And historically low unemployment as well! Other than Biden, no administration has ever achieved and held unemployment this low for this long in the history of our nation. biden admin
Never achieved before. Truly historic!
unpredented achievement !!!
and truly amazing in wake of the fuckin disaster left for america by the perennial loser ,donnie chump
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: And historically low unemployment as well! Other than Biden, no administration has ever achieved and held unemployment this low for this long in the history of our nation. biden admin Never achieved before. Truly historic! unpredented achievement !!! and truly amazing in wake of the fuckin disaster left for america by the perennial loser ,donnie chump and by the way
you mean the disaster caused by Mr Science?
Have you not realized that even the hard core left realizes this was a lab crated virus? Was Trump cookin up sauces in the lab?
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: And historically low unemployment as well! Other than Biden, no administration has ever achieved and held unemployment this low for this long in the history of our nation. biden admin Never achieved before. Truly historic! unpredented achievement !!! and truly amazing in wake of the fuckin disaster left for america by the perennial loser ,donnie chump and by the way
you mean the disaster caused by Mr Science?
Have you not realized that even the hard core left realizes this was a lab crated virus? Was Trump cookin up sauces in the lab?
@BigGame90 Of course not......he actually believes Biden is a great President.
And they believe he's the one bringing jobs back after dems forced everyone to stay home ....umm thanks for the free money feds! (biden- InFlAtIoN iS a GrEaT aSsEt) sheep are so gullible
UI is right where Trump had it before Mr Science unleased the virus.
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
@BigGame90 Of course not......he actually believes Biden is a great President.
And they believe he's the one bringing jobs back after dems forced everyone to stay home ....umm thanks for the free money feds! (biden- InFlAtIoN iS a GrEaT aSsEt) sheep are so gullible
UI is right where Trump had it before Mr Science unleased the virus.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: unpredented achievement !!! and truly amazing in wake of the fuckin disaster left for america by the perennial loser ,donnie chump
Exactly. One would have to be a complete imbecile not to understand that.
sadly there r many people on the right who refuse to understand that fact
by the way
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: unpredented achievement !!! and truly amazing in wake of the fuckin disaster left for america by the perennial loser ,donnie chump
Exactly. One would have to be a complete imbecile not to understand that.
sadly there r many people on the right who refuse to understand that fact
U.S. retail sales rise solidly; fourth-quarter GDP estimates raised
Nov 16 (Reuters)
WASHINGTON - U.S. retail sales increased more than expected in October and consumer spending picked up early in the fourth quarter, which could help to support the economy.
The solid retail sales reported by the Commerce Department on Wednesday and signs of a slowdown in inflation raised cautious optimism the economy could avoid an anticipated recession next year or experience only a very mild downturn.
*cue the usual whiners who actually cheer against America with their partisan negativism
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U.S. retail sales rise solidly; fourth-quarter GDP estimates raised
Nov 16 (Reuters)
WASHINGTON - U.S. retail sales increased more than expected in October and consumer spending picked up early in the fourth quarter, which could help to support the economy.
The solid retail sales reported by the Commerce Department on Wednesday and signs of a slowdown in inflation raised cautious optimism the economy could avoid an anticipated recession next year or experience only a very mild downturn.
*cue the usual whiners who actually cheer against America with their partisan negativism
According to the Hill, Biden administration announces $13 billion to help modernize US power grid to improve resilience against natural disasters and to meet the needs of growing economy. This is the largest federal investment in electricity transmission in US history.
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According to the Hill, Biden administration announces $13 billion to help modernize US power grid to improve resilience against natural disasters and to meet the needs of growing economy. This is the largest federal investment in electricity transmission in US history.
Tweet from @VaughnHillyard Tonight, the GOP GOVERNOR Candidates Who Refused To Say If They'd Have Certified Biden's 2020 Win In Their States: ? Kari Lake, ArizonaX Tim Michels, WisconsinX Tudor Dixon, Michigan X Doug Mastriano, PAX Darren Bailey, Illinois X Dan Cox, MarylandX Lee Zeldin, NY 11:36 PM · Nov 8, 2022 Twitter
Tonight, the GOP GOVERNOR Candidates Who Refused To Say If They'd Have Certified Biden's 2020 Win In Their States:
X Kari Lake, Arizona X Tim Michels, Wisconsin X Tudor Dixon, Michigan X Doug Mastriano, PA X Darren Bailey, Illinois X Dan Cox, Maryland X Lee Zeldin, NY
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Tweet from @VaughnHillyard Tonight, the GOP GOVERNOR Candidates Who Refused To Say If They'd Have Certified Biden's 2020 Win In Their States: ? Kari Lake, ArizonaX Tim Michels, WisconsinX Tudor Dixon, Michigan X Doug Mastriano, PAX Darren Bailey, Illinois X Dan Cox, MarylandX Lee Zeldin, NY 11:36 PM · Nov 8, 2022 Twitter
Tonight, the GOP GOVERNOR Candidates Who Refused To Say If They'd Have Certified Biden's 2020 Win In Their States:
X Kari Lake, Arizona X Tim Michels, Wisconsin X Tudor Dixon, Michigan X Doug Mastriano, PA X Darren Bailey, Illinois X Dan Cox, Maryland X Lee Zeldin, NY
U.S. retail sales rise solidly; fourth-quarter GDP estimates raised Nov 16 (Reuters) WASHINGTON - U.S. retail sales increased more than expected in October and consumer spending picked up early in the fourth quarter, which could help to support the economy. The solid retail sales reported by the Commerce Department on Wednesday and signs of a slowdown in inflation raised cautious optimism the economy could avoid an anticipated recession next year or experience only a very mild downturn. *cue the usual whiners who actually cheer against America with their partisan negativism
WHOAAAA NELLLLIEEE.........Slow your roll there big Fupa. What have you learned about posting economic data in this sub!??? Oh, wait, NOTHING!!!!
The so call "economic experts" you have been following for the past year and a half have been absolutely WRONG every step of the way. Its a FACT. There is FACTUAL EVIDENCE you can easily find, you don't even have to LOOK for it. All the receipts are all over the internet. The GD US FED and TREASURY was telling everyone how FCKING TRANSITORY inflation was for months. Fast forward to NOW. What the hell do you think is going on??? Oh wait, you can't THINK for yourself, only spit BS out that our sheep brain tells you to not question. How dumb do you and everyone else that believed that transitory BS look now. EXACTLY. DAF. GTFO.
America First
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@fubah2
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
U.S. retail sales rise solidly; fourth-quarter GDP estimates raised Nov 16 (Reuters) WASHINGTON - U.S. retail sales increased more than expected in October and consumer spending picked up early in the fourth quarter, which could help to support the economy. The solid retail sales reported by the Commerce Department on Wednesday and signs of a slowdown in inflation raised cautious optimism the economy could avoid an anticipated recession next year or experience only a very mild downturn. *cue the usual whiners who actually cheer against America with their partisan negativism
WHOAAAA NELLLLIEEE.........Slow your roll there big Fupa. What have you learned about posting economic data in this sub!??? Oh, wait, NOTHING!!!!
The so call "economic experts" you have been following for the past year and a half have been absolutely WRONG every step of the way. Its a FACT. There is FACTUAL EVIDENCE you can easily find, you don't even have to LOOK for it. All the receipts are all over the internet. The GD US FED and TREASURY was telling everyone how FCKING TRANSITORY inflation was for months. Fast forward to NOW. What the hell do you think is going on??? Oh wait, you can't THINK for yourself, only spit BS out that our sheep brain tells you to not question. How dumb do you and everyone else that believed that transitory BS look now. EXACTLY. DAF. GTFO.
I'm American, and I've voted straight Democrats since 2016 (voted either GOP or libertarian prior to that). You don't get to embrace lies and authoritarianism and get to keep my vote
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I'm American, and I've voted straight Democrats since 2016 (voted either GOP or libertarian prior to that). You don't get to embrace lies and authoritarianism and get to keep my vote
I'm American, and I've voted straight Democrats since 2016 (voted either GOP or libertarian prior to that). You don't get to embrace lies and authoritarianism and get to keep my vote
That is your right, as it should be.... you also don't come to this forum to bash post America 20 times a day with all BS leftist propaganda for a Canadian owned public forum.
The number of users here that actually would welcome forward thinking thought processes to DO BETTER as a Country are about non-existent. The bot farm algo army led by Kelly is only interested in promoting division and false narratives. FKEM.
Fuba and his fupa likely aren't American either....we sure as hell know Third is a bot so he/she/him/her/they don't even count.
America First
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
I'm American, and I've voted straight Democrats since 2016 (voted either GOP or libertarian prior to that). You don't get to embrace lies and authoritarianism and get to keep my vote
That is your right, as it should be.... you also don't come to this forum to bash post America 20 times a day with all BS leftist propaganda for a Canadian owned public forum.
The number of users here that actually would welcome forward thinking thought processes to DO BETTER as a Country are about non-existent. The bot farm algo army led by Kelly is only interested in promoting division and false narratives. FKEM.
Fuba and his fupa likely aren't American either....we sure as hell know Third is a bot so he/she/him/her/they don't even count.
According to the Hill, Biden administration announces $13 billion to help modernize US power grid to improve resilience against natural disasters and to meet the needs of growing economy.
This is the largest federal investment in electricity transmission in US history.
thx thirdperson . we can add this to the list of progress the biden admin has implimented for americans
hes already achieved more than any other president in our lifetime
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
According to the Hill, Biden administration announces $13 billion to help modernize US power grid to improve resilience against natural disasters and to meet the needs of growing economy.
This is the largest federal investment in electricity transmission in US history.
thx thirdperson . we can add this to the list of progress the biden admin has implimented for americans
hes already achieved more than any other president in our lifetime
Tonight, the GOP GOVERNOR Candidates Who Refused To Say If They'd Have Certified Biden's 2020 Win In Their States:
X Kari Lake, Arizona X Tim Michels, Wisconsin X Tudor Dixon, Michigan X Doug Mastriano, PA X Darren Bailey, Illinois X Dan Cox, Maryland X Lee Zeldin, NY
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those results tell an obvious story worthy of note by all the others who publicly cast doubt or outright deny election results without providing proof to support their counter-claims
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
Tonight, the GOP GOVERNOR Candidates Who Refused To Say If They'd Have Certified Biden's 2020 Win In Their States:
X Kari Lake, Arizona X Tim Michels, Wisconsin X Tudor Dixon, Michigan X Doug Mastriano, PA X Darren Bailey, Illinois X Dan Cox, Maryland X Lee Zeldin, NY
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those results tell an obvious story worthy of note by all the others who publicly cast doubt or outright deny election results without providing proof to support their counter-claims
I'm American, and I've voted straight Democrats since 2016 (voted either GOP or libertarian prior to that). You don't get to embrace lies and authoritarianism and get to keep my vote
@kaponofor3
fortunately the majority agrees .
unfortunately a very large segment of our country seems to b ok with embracing lies and authoritarianism as well as white nationalism , trickledown economics , taking away womens rights , voter supression , and overturning vote results they don't like
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
I'm American, and I've voted straight Democrats since 2016 (voted either GOP or libertarian prior to that). You don't get to embrace lies and authoritarianism and get to keep my vote
@kaponofor3
fortunately the majority agrees .
unfortunately a very large segment of our country seems to b ok with embracing lies and authoritarianism as well as white nationalism , trickledown economics , taking away womens rights , voter supression , and overturning vote results they don't like
Yes, I agree, but it was a razor thin margins in some of the races involving election deniers and people who are OK with dismantling democracy as long as its their guy doing it, and they get to punish the people that they hold grievances and resentment against. Those people are not going to go away, and we will have to deal with the cancer that Trump and his legion of bootlicking sycophants unleashed when they decided to try and foster mistrust in our democratic institutions.
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@KellyM_1964
Yes, I agree, but it was a razor thin margins in some of the races involving election deniers and people who are OK with dismantling democracy as long as its their guy doing it, and they get to punish the people that they hold grievances and resentment against. Those people are not going to go away, and we will have to deal with the cancer that Trump and his legion of bootlicking sycophants unleashed when they decided to try and foster mistrust in our democratic institutions.
@KellyM_1964 Yes, I agree, but it was a razor thin margins in some of the races involving election deniers and people who are OK with dismantling democracy as long as its their guy doing it, and they get to punish the people that they hold grievances and resentment against. Those people are not going to go away, and we will have to deal with the cancer that Trump and his legion of bootlicking sycophants unleashed when they decided to try and foster mistrust in our democratic institutions.
@kaponofor3
No disagreement here It will definitely remain a significant problem for Democracy at least until the end of January 2025 for sure, and possibly much longer.
It almost doesn't matter how "trust" in anything is eroded or lost altogether; whether fair or unfair - because once trust wanes - such as in our institutions like the media, government, FBI, election process, the CDC, the FED, etc, even if the distrust is entirely based on falsehoods, fabrications, or partisan propaganda - it is extremely difficult to get it back.
That's where we are now for a huge swath of our society.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
@KellyM_1964 Yes, I agree, but it was a razor thin margins in some of the races involving election deniers and people who are OK with dismantling democracy as long as its their guy doing it, and they get to punish the people that they hold grievances and resentment against. Those people are not going to go away, and we will have to deal with the cancer that Trump and his legion of bootlicking sycophants unleashed when they decided to try and foster mistrust in our democratic institutions.
@kaponofor3
No disagreement here It will definitely remain a significant problem for Democracy at least until the end of January 2025 for sure, and possibly much longer.
It almost doesn't matter how "trust" in anything is eroded or lost altogether; whether fair or unfair - because once trust wanes - such as in our institutions like the media, government, FBI, election process, the CDC, the FED, etc, even if the distrust is entirely based on falsehoods, fabrications, or partisan propaganda - it is extremely difficult to get it back.
That's where we are now for a huge swath of our society.
Wise words Zeus - completely co-sign. It's why I find Trump's entire existence as completely objectionable, and now amount of "but but the libs" will ever make me support him or give quarter to those who DO support them. I do not support many Democratic policies but guess what? We can fight about policies after we turn away the authoritarians who are happy to ignore the results of elections that they do not win. This is a fundamental, inexcusable line in the sand in my head. I completely understand how people fall under this sway secondary to a hijacking of their fear mechanism. It's actually relatively sophisticated psychological manipulation put into action (a whole other story for a whole other thread) but I find it so dangerous and pernicious and disingenuous. It plays on people's worst impulses. An absolute tragedy what Trump has unleashed on our nation. I'll never forgive or forget. I've been Never Trump since 2015 and will remain so until the day I die. I lost complete faith in the GOP when they embraced him and his firehose of lies and grievances and resentment.
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Wise words Zeus - completely co-sign. It's why I find Trump's entire existence as completely objectionable, and now amount of "but but the libs" will ever make me support him or give quarter to those who DO support them. I do not support many Democratic policies but guess what? We can fight about policies after we turn away the authoritarians who are happy to ignore the results of elections that they do not win. This is a fundamental, inexcusable line in the sand in my head. I completely understand how people fall under this sway secondary to a hijacking of their fear mechanism. It's actually relatively sophisticated psychological manipulation put into action (a whole other story for a whole other thread) but I find it so dangerous and pernicious and disingenuous. It plays on people's worst impulses. An absolute tragedy what Trump has unleashed on our nation. I'll never forgive or forget. I've been Never Trump since 2015 and will remain so until the day I die. I lost complete faith in the GOP when they embraced him and his firehose of lies and grievances and resentment.
Reuters report Biden administration to reverse Trump restrictions on investing for registered retirement savings plans. Investors concerned about climate change and racial injustice would be allowed to choose ethical mutual funds that consider social, environmental and political factors. Financial industry has criticized Trump restrictions for failing to account for positive impact of ethically responsible companies on long term investment returns.
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Reuters report Biden administration to reverse Trump restrictions on investing for registered retirement savings plans. Investors concerned about climate change and racial injustice would be allowed to choose ethical mutual funds that consider social, environmental and political factors. Financial industry has criticized Trump restrictions for failing to account for positive impact of ethically responsible companies on long term investment returns.
Wise words Zeus - completely co-sign. It's why I find Trump's entire existence as completely objectionable, and now amount of "but but the libs" will ever make me support him or give quarter to those who DO support them. I do not support many Democratic policies but guess what? We can fight about policies after we turn away the authoritarians who are happy to ignore the results of elections that they do not win. This is a fundamental, inexcusable line in the sand in my head. I completely understand how people fall under this sway secondary to a hijacking of their fear mechanism. It's actually relatively sophisticated psychological manipulation put into action (a whole other story for a whole other thread) but I find it so dangerous and pernicious and disingenuous. It plays on people's worst impulses. An absolute tragedy what Trump has unleashed on our nation. I'll never forgive or forget. I've been Never Trump since 2015 and will remain so until the day I die. I lost complete faith in the GOP when they embraced him and his firehose of lies and grievances and resentment.
Apparently Independents broke for the Democrats in the midterms by a very significant margin of 4 points, and the results made it emphatic!
A lot of people are fleeing the GOP and for good reasons. Not per se because the Democrats are allegedly better in most respects, but instead they are fleeing the GOP because of Trump and Trumpism and have little other choices other than to vote Democrat.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
Wise words Zeus - completely co-sign. It's why I find Trump's entire existence as completely objectionable, and now amount of "but but the libs" will ever make me support him or give quarter to those who DO support them. I do not support many Democratic policies but guess what? We can fight about policies after we turn away the authoritarians who are happy to ignore the results of elections that they do not win. This is a fundamental, inexcusable line in the sand in my head. I completely understand how people fall under this sway secondary to a hijacking of their fear mechanism. It's actually relatively sophisticated psychological manipulation put into action (a whole other story for a whole other thread) but I find it so dangerous and pernicious and disingenuous. It plays on people's worst impulses. An absolute tragedy what Trump has unleashed on our nation. I'll never forgive or forget. I've been Never Trump since 2015 and will remain so until the day I die. I lost complete faith in the GOP when they embraced him and his firehose of lies and grievances and resentment.
Apparently Independents broke for the Democrats in the midterms by a very significant margin of 4 points, and the results made it emphatic!
A lot of people are fleeing the GOP and for good reasons. Not per se because the Democrats are allegedly better in most respects, but instead they are fleeing the GOP because of Trump and Trumpism and have little other choices other than to vote Democrat.
I am no fan of the Democrats, but my litmus test is "will you willingly give up power when you lose elections, and will you not purposefully degrade confidence in our democratic institutions." I'll happily fight with the Democrats about policy issues later, but none of those policy issues matter if democracy itself is not protected by an outright rejection of those who refuse to recognize court rulings, the lawful results of elections that they don't win, etc. etc.
Funny how the only rigged elections in their minds are the ones they lose. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. /s
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I am no fan of the Democrats, but my litmus test is "will you willingly give up power when you lose elections, and will you not purposefully degrade confidence in our democratic institutions." I'll happily fight with the Democrats about policy issues later, but none of those policy issues matter if democracy itself is not protected by an outright rejection of those who refuse to recognize court rulings, the lawful results of elections that they don't win, etc. etc.
Funny how the only rigged elections in their minds are the ones they lose. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. /s
Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3: @KellyM_1964 Yes, I agree, but it was a razor thin margins in some of the races involving election deniers and people who are OK with dismantling democracy as long as its their guy doing it, and they get to punish the people that they hold grievances and resentment against. Those people are not going to go away, and we will have to deal with the cancer that Trump and his legion of bootlicking sycophants unleashed when they decided to try and foster mistrust in our democratic institutions. @kaponofor3 No disagreement here It will definitely remain a significant problem for Democracy at least until the end of January 2025 for sure, and possibly much longer. It almost doesn't matter how "trust" in anything is eroded or lost altogether; whether fair or unfair - because once trust wanes - such as in our institutions like the media, government, FBI, election process, the CDC, the FED, etc, even if the distrust is entirely based on falsehoods, fabrications, or partisan propaganda - it is extremely difficult to get it back. That's where we are now for a huge swath of our society.
mistrust (by repos ) of pretty much everything will persist for decades now
chumps legacy
of course chump doesnt give a fck
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3: @KellyM_1964 Yes, I agree, but it was a razor thin margins in some of the races involving election deniers and people who are OK with dismantling democracy as long as its their guy doing it, and they get to punish the people that they hold grievances and resentment against. Those people are not going to go away, and we will have to deal with the cancer that Trump and his legion of bootlicking sycophants unleashed when they decided to try and foster mistrust in our democratic institutions. @kaponofor3 No disagreement here It will definitely remain a significant problem for Democracy at least until the end of January 2025 for sure, and possibly much longer. It almost doesn't matter how "trust" in anything is eroded or lost altogether; whether fair or unfair - because once trust wanes - such as in our institutions like the media, government, FBI, election process, the CDC, the FED, etc, even if the distrust is entirely based on falsehoods, fabrications, or partisan propaganda - it is extremely difficult to get it back. That's where we are now for a huge swath of our society.
mistrust (by repos ) of pretty much everything will persist for decades now
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