The POS vs DeSantis/Pence/Pompeo et al

Yes. But are new businesses rushing to Florida to fill the void in the home insurance industry? Does not look like it. In fact, seems to be the opposite. You cannot tell me the political leadership has nothing to do with it, when clearly it does. It's interesting how when residents moved into Florida from places like NY it was all because of politics, but when businesses and residents leave, to Republicans it has nothing to do with political leadership. 

That's pretty dumb of the FL Republican leadership if they truly said that.  Like I referenced earlier, State Farm stopped issuing  homeowner's policies " to new homeowner's " here in CA , and we're about as woke as you can get w a dopey Dem governor to boot.

So, let's cut to the chase.  These companies are not exiting states due to political reasons.  

@DeezyAZ81

 "Florida’s chief financial officer is threatening to investigate and even fine Farmers Insurance for pulling out of the state—which he insists is due to wokeness, not climate change."

This is NOT a statement from Farmer's saying this.  This is a state official saying this.  

"Farmers announced Tuesday that it will stop issuing new policies in Florida, and will not renew certain existing home, automobile, and umbrella policies throughout the state. The move will affect about 100,000 policies, nearly a third of Farmers’ business in Florida. The company https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/07/11/farmers-insurance-leaving-florida-market/70403832007/ that the decision was “necessary to effectively manage risk exposure.”

'But Florida’s CFO Jimmy Patronis, a Republican, doesn’t think climate change is the problem.

“I sincerely believe that with today’s actions, Farmers Insurance is well on its way to becoming the Bud Light of insurance,” he said in a statementposted to Twitter, seemingly blaming the insurance company for being too woke.'

I am not sure what exactly he means by this?  Farmer's was not using a trans person as a pitchman.  So, without a clearer context, I am not sure how Farmers was being woke simply by "effectively managing their risk".

He sounds lime another politician that is full of bluster.  I do not see it as being woke to move.

"But Farmers is not the first insurance carrier to leave Florida. Bankers Insurance, and Lexington Insurance both withdrew from the state since last year.* Governor Ron DeSantis and state lawmakers tried to make their state more appealing to carriers by passing a law that makes it harder to sue insurance companies and budgeting $3 billion to help with hurricane season. However, DeSantis separately vetoed funding for infrastructure and drainage improvements in areas that experienced heavy flooding during Hurricane Ian in 2022.

Farmers made no mention of lawsuits in its decision to leave Florida. Republicans “need to own this failure,” Florida House Minority Leader Fentrice Driskell said Wednesday."

So, this is even mentioning a policy that DeSantis passed to actually make it MORE APPEALING for them to stay in the state.  THEY STILL DID NOT STAY EVEN THOUGH DeSantis was trying to ENTICE them to stay.

I never said it was Farmer's Insurance that said this. I specifically said the Republican CFO from the state of Florida that made the statement. 

@DeezyAZ81

Yessir.  There are plenty of other insurance companies to choose from. It is very easy to get insurance; it is simply more expensive than it has been in the past.  That link says this will affect about 100,000 policies and that includes autos.  Yes, that will be very easy to fill.

I believe you are conflating a couple of issues and trying to make it all political; it is NOT all political.

So far I have not seen what policies drove the companies from the state.  You made it seem like they did not want to do business in Florida because of DeSantis and his woke policies.  You implied he implemented some policies that drove them away.

The only policy the link you posted listed was a policy that would HELP the insurance companies out and make it beneficial to STAY in the state.

So, this does not seem to be a political decision BUT a business decision due to 'risk management'.  This is due to the fact that Florida has grown more than other states and their homes have become way more pricier quicker than other states.  They are also one of the most riskiest states.  So, when a disaster happens it hurts the insurance company more than it would have in the past.

There are other examples you can look at in the past in other states where this sort of thing has happened and an insurance company has to tweak their model.  

A few years ago there were not nearly as many hurricanes and very few actually hit Florida.  It was several years where a category 3 or better even hit the US, let alone Florida.

This can cause even businesses to become complacent -- just as it does homeowners and builders.  You start thinking it is okay to build more homes, and more expensive homes, in a disaster-prone area.  The insurance companies also tend to see it as okay to insure these homes at an unreasonable price to offset potential swings in the future.

So, when the cycle changes and more hurricanes hit -- this can devastate a company when an excessive amount of claims come in that far exceed expectations.

@DeezyAZ81

 Hope this helps and maybe you have more to add that might clear up what you were saying. 

Sure. And he is wrong from what I can tell and as I say he is a politician seemingly blustering.

Also, you seemed to imply that you agreed with his assessment of it.

@DeezyAZ81

So far only you and an irritated and embarrassed politician have said this.

Then you say if I cannot see it you cannot help me.

It is very easy to do.  Just show me where the insurance companies out of all of the companies in Florida have said this is the reason for them leaving.

The you can list what policies you and the politician are talking about that cause only insurance companies to leave.

Why would insurance companies be more 'anti-woke policy' sensitive than others?

@DeezyAZ81

 This may very well be the case with this company or others.  I just would like to see where they said this or where a direct link can be made.

Even so, another company will gladly take their customers for a 'risk-management' assessed price. 

Per the Miami Herald, recruits and leaders are already quitting DeSantis’ new State Guard since they thought they were signing up for disaster relief efforts, only to learn they are being trained as the Governor’s private army.

Unlike the National Guard, State Guard members can’t be deployed by the federal government. They answer only to the governor.

Sounds like Ronnie wants his own Wagner Group.

Reminiscent of the infamous hitler brown shirts. 

Fascism

I wonder if the twice impeached, twice indicted sex offender is now bummed that HE didn't think of that first.

Militaristic, the article of the Miami Herald uses the word as such, 

Some veterans in the first class of volunteers for the Florida State Guard quit, saying training was more militaristic than expected.

@Europa

i imagine the " gestapo-like training" & expectations  was a little much even for those few on the right who still believe in democracy

Previously, DeSantis created an unnecessary election police force to fight virtually non-existing  voting fraud.

He is either a far right idiot or a wannabee far right idiot.

No matter.   His alleged mojo is falling noticeably.

I give him maybe a 20% chance at best of gaining more votes needed than the sex-offender in the GOP primaries, unless some dramatic unforeseen incident occurs  OR  the boss of the trump crime family is criminally convicted.

The latter unlikely, but ya never know...... and the caveat to it all is there are still several long months to go before the primaries are decided.

CHEERING for TRUMPTY-DUMPTY to win the GOP nomination!  

@fubah2

 He suffers from electile dysfunction.

Read this elsewhere

Pence attracts white people over 70 like the early bird special at Bob Evans.

Kind of tells the story

@Midnight1  UGH.  God will make you burn for that one ...     LOL  

According to Daily beast, DeSantis lawsuit against Bud Light company is dumb.  Florida pension fund could be exposed to sanctions and penalties for bringing baseless ligitation.  In the highly unlikely event of lawsuit win, Florida pension could only get under 1% of any recovery.

The first time DeSantis ditches the private jets, he gets into a car accident in Chattanooga, TN this morning.

I guess his driver wasn't woke enough.

Huffpost reports that if DeSantis wins presidency, he may appoint Kennedy as head of Center for disease control.  This is stupid because Kennedy has a history of promoting crazy conspiracy theories.  For example, baseless claim that covid vaccine is engineered to spare Chinese and Jewish people. Unlike other states, Florida has most of its covid deaths after vaccines became widely available.

Chris Christie on CNN: "It is most likely that, by the time we get on the debate stage on August 23, the front-runner will be out on bail in four different jurisdictions, Florida, Washington, Georgia, and New York."

That's some crazy shit right there!

Former Texas Rep. Will Hurd: "Donald Trump is a liar. Donald Trump is a national security threat. Donald Trump willingly knew that he had this country's secrets, and he was trying to tamper with evidence to hide that he had that information. All of those things are true."

Can I get an AMEN?????

It's whacko nuts......but that is consistent with MAGA-trumpism,