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The point I would make is that 'might' be the 1st time in our history we orderd stand downs at the expense of helping fellow Americans. After the standdowns we purged about 198 field grade officers from the ranks. It does make a difference regardless of what Hillary has said at the top of her carpetbagging lungs.
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The point I would make is that 'might' be the 1st time in our history we orderd stand downs at the expense of helping fellow Americans. After the standdowns we purged about 198 field grade officers from the ranks. It does make a difference regardless of what Hillary has said at the top of her carpetbagging lungs.
 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 5:21 PM ET #27

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The point I would make is that 'might' be the 1st time in our history we orderd stand downs at the expense of helping fellow Americans. After the standdowns we purged about 198 field grade officers from the ranks. It does make a difference regardless of what Hillary has said at the top of her carpetbagging lungs.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/may/16/fact-checking-benghazi-our-most-recent-round-/

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The point I would make is that 'might' be the 1st time in our history we orderd stand downs at the expense of helping fellow Americans. After the standdowns we purged about 198 field grade officers from the ranks. It does make a difference regardless of what Hillary has said at the top of her carpetbagging lungs.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/may/16/fact-checking-benghazi-our-most-recent-round-/

 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 6:05 PM ET #28

If the GOP gets rid of all the so-called RINOs, all is left are a bunch of unpatriotic , big government, "freedom of only my religion" bigots. How is that good for the Party and the country?
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If the GOP gets rid of all the so-called RINOs, all is left are a bunch of unpatriotic , big government, "freedom of only my religion" bigots. How is that good for the Party and the country?
 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 6:10 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Prior to Benghazi, were there 13 attacks on embassies and 60 deaths under President George W. Bush.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

But ,none of them involving an American ambassador killed in an attack..and of those 60 deaths how many were Americans..?

Last night Obama said  "This is a core principle of my presidency: if you threaten America, you will find no safe haven. So were are the people that killed ambassador Stevens and the three other Americans?

Two years ago Obama vowed to track down the killers of ambassador Stevens and the others "Make no mistake. We will work with the Libyan government to bring justice to killers who attack our people,"  ..........Well it looks like they were able to find a safe haven..

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Prior to Benghazi, were there 13 attacks on embassies and 60 deaths under President George W. Bush.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

But ,none of them involving an American ambassador killed in an attack..and of those 60 deaths how many were Americans..?

Last night Obama said  "This is a core principle of my presidency: if you threaten America, you will find no safe haven. So were are the people that killed ambassador Stevens and the three other Americans?

Two years ago Obama vowed to track down the killers of ambassador Stevens and the others "Make no mistake. We will work with the Libyan government to bring justice to killers who attack our people,"  ..........Well it looks like they were able to find a safe haven..

 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 6:13 PM ET #30

Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

If the GOP gets rid of all the so-called RINOs, all is left are a bunch of unpatriotic , big government, "freedom of only my religion" bigots. How is that good for the Party and the country?

What you do is confront these RINO's and offer them three options: leave, convert or die.

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If the GOP gets rid of all the so-called RINOs, all is left are a bunch of unpatriotic , big government, "freedom of only my religion" bigots. How is that good for the Party and the country?

What you do is confront these RINO's and offer them three options: leave, convert or die.

 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 7:01 PM ET #31

Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Bronco Bama ...
 
What an embarrassment ...
 
For the first time in my adult life,, I'm ashamed to be an American.. 

 


Now you know what it felt like for anyone with half a brain during the Bush regime.  

Feel free to leave if you think it's that bad......  
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Bronco Bama ...
 
What an embarrassment ...
 
For the first time in my adult life,, I'm ashamed to be an American.. 

 


Now you know what it felt like for anyone with half a brain during the Bush regime.  

Feel free to leave if you think it's that bad......  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

What you do is confront these RINO's and offer them three options: leave, convert or die.


Would you give the same options to someone who feels ashamed to be an American?

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What you do is confront these RINO's and offer them three options: leave, convert or die.


Would you give the same options to someone who feels ashamed to be an American?

 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 7:15 PM ET #33

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Now you know what it felt like for anyone with half a brain during the Bush regime.  

Did you feel ashamed under Bush's Presidency ?  If you did why didn't you leave ?

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Now you know what it felt like for anyone with half a brain during the Bush regime.  

Did you feel ashamed under Bush's Presidency ?  If you did why didn't you leave ?

 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 7:36 PM ET #34

Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

But ,none of them involving an American ambassador killed in an attack..and of those 60 deaths how many were Americans..?

Last night Obama said  "This is a core principle of my presidency: if you threaten America, you will find no safe haven. So were are the people that killed ambassador Stevens and the three other Americans?

Two years ago Obama vowed to track down the killers of ambassador Stevens and the others "Make no mistake. We will work with the Libyan government to bring justice to killers who attack our people,"  ..........Well it looks like they were able to find a safe haven..

We all agree that we MUST find those responsible. Bush said the same thing about Bin Laden and it took awhile. I am not going to put them on him.

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But ,none of them involving an American ambassador killed in an attack..and of those 60 deaths how many were Americans..?

Last night Obama said  "This is a core principle of my presidency: if you threaten America, you will find no safe haven. So were are the people that killed ambassador Stevens and the three other Americans?

Two years ago Obama vowed to track down the killers of ambassador Stevens and the others "Make no mistake. We will work with the Libyan government to bring justice to killers who attack our people,"  ..........Well it looks like they were able to find a safe haven..

We all agree that we MUST find those responsible. Bush said the same thing about Bin Laden and it took awhile. I am not going to put them on him.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

If the GOP gets rid of all the so-called RINOs, all is left are a bunch of unpatriotic , big government, "freedom of only my religion" bigots. How is that good for the Party and the country?
I gotcha. But 'big government'? 
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If the GOP gets rid of all the so-called RINOs, all is left are a bunch of unpatriotic , big government, "freedom of only my religion" bigots. How is that good for the Party and the country?
I gotcha. But 'big government'? 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


Now you know what it felt like for anyone with half a brain during the Bush regime.  

Feel free to leave if you think it's that bad......  
Cowards leave. Whatcha gonna say I wanna come to your country because I don't like current admin?  Your right as citizen to complain all you want---either side. Or stay and help change things.  Get so tire of people telling others to leave if they don like it.  Always seems to me they don't wanna discuss issues and this is their best retort.  Not necessarily you. Cause I know you got need with guy. But come on. 
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Now you know what it felt like for anyone with half a brain during the Bush regime.  

Feel free to leave if you think it's that bad......  
Cowards leave. Whatcha gonna say I wanna come to your country because I don't like current admin?  Your right as citizen to complain all you want---either side. Or stay and help change things.  Get so tire of people telling others to leave if they don like it.  Always seems to me they don't wanna discuss issues and this is their best retort.  Not necessarily you. Cause I know you got need with guy. But come on. 
 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 8:58 PM ET #37

Well, it looks like Obama's broad coalition will one short ..
 
 Turkey just announced that it has refused Obama's request to use it's air bases to attack ISIS's JV team.
 
How could the Turks deny Obama's request ?  The US Army Corpse of Engineers were the one that built the Incirlik Air Base in Turkey ..."You didn't build that "..
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Well, it looks like Obama's broad coalition will one short ..
 
 Turkey just announced that it has refused Obama's request to use it's air bases to attack ISIS's JV team.
 
How could the Turks deny Obama's request ?  The US Army Corpse of Engineers were the one that built the Incirlik Air Base in Turkey ..."You didn't build that "..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

I gotcha. But 'big government'? 


certainly.  rightwingers are the kings, or queens , of big government- get government involved in every conflict out there and spend as much money as possible, corporate wlfefare, telling people who they can marry, telling women what they can do with their bodies, patriot act bullshit, adding the fourth branch of government( religion) and so on.  as we've said for a while, if you want a party that is for smaller government and fiscal responsibility, the republican party is the very last party you want anything to do with.
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I gotcha. But 'big government'? 


certainly.  rightwingers are the kings, or queens , of big government- get government involved in every conflict out there and spend as much money as possible, corporate wlfefare, telling people who they can marry, telling women what they can do with their bodies, patriot act bullshit, adding the fourth branch of government( religion) and so on.  as we've said for a while, if you want a party that is for smaller government and fiscal responsibility, the republican party is the very last party you want anything to do with.
 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 9:33 PM ET #39

Club. Really?  Never knew all of that. 
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Posted: Sep. 11, 2014 - 9:35 PM ET #40


Turks have to make an "official" denial but everybody knows what's up.  Kurds will kick the snots out of ISIS anyway.
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Turks have to make an "official" denial but everybody knows what's up.  Kurds will kick the snots out of ISIS anyway.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

There are only two options to deal with this war...

1. Order all Americans to leave Muslim lands and end doing business with Muslims completely.

2. Declare a war on Islam and wipe the religion and its followers off the planet.

There is no third option.

 

How soon can we get started on option #2 

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There are only two options to deal with this war...

1. Order all Americans to leave Muslim lands and end doing business with Muslims completely.

2. Declare a war on Islam and wipe the religion and its followers off the planet.

There is no third option.

 

How soon can we get started on option #2 

 
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3?  France will back out. England not commuted solidly. Who else?


If you want to strengthen the coalition, get France to back out.
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3?  France will back out. England not commuted solidly. Who else?


If you want to strengthen the coalition, get France to back out.
 
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Speaking of convert or die...Obama said that ISIL is not "Islamic"...

Yet ,,on a larger stage..

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Speaking of convert or die...Obama said that ISIL is not "Islamic"...

Yet ,,on a larger stage..

 
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If you want to strengthen the coalition, get France to back out.
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If you want to strengthen the coalition, get France to back out.
 
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Speaking of convert or die...Obama said that ISIL is not "Islamic"...

Yet, President Obama needs to stop trying to cover over all the Islamic bad deeds..and play them dowm ..the next thing Obama will tell us is that ..what ISIS is doing in Syria and Iraq is no more than "work place violence " on a larger stage..

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Speaking of convert or die...Obama said that ISIL is not "Islamic"...

Yet, President Obama needs to stop trying to cover over all the Islamic bad deeds..and play them dowm ..the next thing Obama will tell us is that ..what ISIS is doing in Syria and Iraq is no more than "work place violence " on a larger stage..

 
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Speaking of convert or die...Obama said that ISIL is not "Islamic"...

Yet, Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not Islamic,” Obama said, speaking from the state floor of the White House residence. “No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim.”

He added, “And ISIL is certainly not a state. It was formerly al-Qaida’s affiliate in Iraq, and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria’s civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government, nor the people it subjugates. ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way.”https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=24888

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Speaking of convert or die...Obama said that ISIL is not "Islamic"...

Yet, Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not Islamic,” Obama said, speaking from the state floor of the White House residence. “No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim.”

He added, “And ISIL is certainly not a state. It was formerly al-Qaida’s affiliate in Iraq, and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria’s civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government, nor the people it subjugates. ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way.”https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=24888

 
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If ISIS is not Islamic why in three hell who they tell the Christians in Mosul to convert to Islam or die ?

You Lie !

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If ISIS is not Islamic why in three hell who they tell the Christians in Mosul to convert to Islam or die ?

You Lie !

 
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Quote Originally Posted by zelo123:

Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

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Speaking of convert or die...Obama said that ISIL is not "Islamic"...

Yet, Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not Islamic,” Obama said, speaking from the state floor of the White House residence. “No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim.”

He added, “And ISIL is certainly not a state. It was formerly al-Qaida’s affiliate in Iraq, and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria’s civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government, nor the people it subjugates. ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way.”https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=24888


Every time he gives a speech, I always wonder just whose president he really is


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Speaking of convert or die...Obama said that ISIL is not "Islamic"...

Yet, Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not Islamic,” Obama said, speaking from the state floor of the White House residence. “No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim.”

He added, “And ISIL is certainly not a state. It was formerly al-Qaida’s affiliate in Iraq, and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria’s civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government, nor the people it subjugates. ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way.”https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=24888


Every time he gives a speech, I always wonder just whose president he really is


 
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This administration has reached the highest state of embarrassment. I don't remember how many 'say what's' I had while listening to his speech. We are not at war by John Kerry was my limit. It is truly a sad state of affairs in White House. Did our POTUS just miss another 3 footer for bogey?
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This administration has reached the highest state of embarrassment. I don't remember how many 'say what's' I had while listening to his speech. We are not at war by John Kerry was my limit. It is truly a sad state of affairs in White House. Did our POTUS just miss another 3 footer for bogey?
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

This administration has reached the highest state of embarrassment. I don't remember how many 'say what's' I had while listening to his speech. We are not at war by John Kerry was my limit. It is truly a sad state of affairs in White House. Did our POTUS just miss another 3 footer for bogey?

||fingershake.gif' border=0>      Sad is certainly not a state. It is recognized by no government, nor the people it effects . Sad is a unhappy feeling ..pure and simple.........

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This administration has reached the highest state of embarrassment. I don't remember how many 'say what's' I had while listening to his speech. We are not at war by John Kerry was my limit. It is truly a sad state of affairs in White House. Did our POTUS just miss another 3 footer for bogey?

||fingershake.gif' border=0>      Sad is certainly not a state. It is recognized by no government, nor the people it effects . Sad is a unhappy feeling ..pure and simple.........

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