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Posted: #76
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Cheney's quote is from 1994. Why are you bringing up Carter?

What changed besides "things and thoughts"?



Why are you bringing up BushSr. Bush Jr. Romney McCain and Cheney ?  The thread is about Bronco Bama..

..and just how did taking down Saddam weaken Assad ...all the time we were in Iraq  ..Iran was sending armament to Assad and he was never stronger than he was at that point in time.....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

I knew it ..    My goodness are you predictable.. say anything about Jimmah Carter and you come into the thread to personally attack me...you need to change your MO..lol


Jimmy Carter isnt black..while Obama as you mentioned above and have in the past is.

So did you not and do you not use the race card against Obama????

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



Why are you bringing up BushSr. Bush Jr. Romney McCain and Cheney ?  The thread is about Bronco Bama..

..and just how did taking down Saddam weaken Assad ...all the time we were in Iraq  ..Iran was sending armament to Assad and he was never stronger than he was at that point in time.....

"Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place? That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it -- eastern Iraq -- the Iranians would like to claim, they fought over it for eight years. In the north you've got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey.

It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq."

person Cheney - 1994

Quagmire - a situation that is hard to deal with or get out of : a situation that is full of problems. 

Why did Bush / Cheney leave Obama a situation that is hard to deal with or get out of? Why did Bush / Cheney leave the United States a situation that is full of problems? What did the United States gain by going into Iraq in 2003?

 
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I_Need_A_Detox, do you know when you are in trouble and in deep water in a debate ?

It's when WSC'ers comes into a thread and starts bashing me and not posting to the topic ......

 
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Posted: #80

You - Things and thoughts have changed.

Me - What things?

You - idk.

Nice debate.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

I_Need_A_Detox, do you know when you are in trouble and in deep water in a debate ?

It's when WSC'ers comes into a thread and starts bashing me and not posting to the topic ......


I replied to your comment, not to anything he said.

You seemed to be swimming as usual, deflecting to Obama's race and 9-11, the usual garbage which holds no value..then you deflect again towards me when YOU are the one who degrade MANY discussions by doing cheap shots on Obama.

You have not answered his questions regarding why we went to Iraq and how Cheney pretty much did a flip flop from his earlier solid comments about taking out Saddam (many of the same comments made here as well)

If you dont want to be called out, then quit pulling the race card and deflecting SS..better to cut and paste someone elses stronger views than to drop to such pathetic lows about Obama.
 
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Wallstreetcappers you really need to get off your high horse...you replied alright ,,,by taking a petty swipe at me..

Race card ?

Quote post where I said something about Obama's blackness or retract that statement.

You libs say white can't play the race card only blacks can..

..and Obama sucks .....any low blows I give Obama is what he deserves and more or what he' doing to America..

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

 Last week Michael Moore said : Obama will be remembered as the First black president ..and that's all..

But, now Obama can add another first to his legacy....he is the First Nobel Peace Prize winner to start a war ...



Oh and I forgot the super funny golf jokes you make on Obama..that is solid criticism as well.

 
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Joke,joke I don't think it's at all funny,, that every time ISIS beheads someone Obama heads to the links .......Obama went golfing at Andrews today with Marvin Nicholson, Mike Brush and Joe Paulsen right after the Brit reporter was beheaded..
 
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I didn't say anything about Obama,,, I only reported what Michael Moore said....and it's been reported by most major news sources..
 
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Americans' freedom of speech to critciize the president or the government is protect by the first amendment of the constitution the  right to do this is protected by the law.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

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So did you not and do you not use the race card against Obama????




If saying Obama is a black president is playing the race card..than you need to hold Obama accountable for doing the same thing ..he calls himself that ...

“There’s no doubt that there’s some folks who just really dislike me because they don’t like the idea of a black president,” Obama said in the interview to the New Yorker 01/20/2014.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



If saying Obama is a black president is playing the race card..than you need to hold Obama accountable for doing the same thing ..he calls himself that ...

“There’s no doubt that there’s some folks who just really dislike me because they don’t like the idea of a black president,” Obama said in the interview to the New Yorker 01/20/2014.

So you want to play the dumb role now...I find that interesting.

It is common knowledge that a person can call themselves whatever they want, that is quite different than a third party even using the same term. It also follows a pattern from you where it for sure is not only a quote you chose to list but much more. You reference color in many ways but even quoting someone you REALLY dislike (Moore) for sure means you were trying to make the point.

Poor taste SS...but I know the goal you have is in ANY fashion you want to put Obama down..golf or his color or vacationing or however and whatever way to put him down. Your intentions are blatantly obvious.
 
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Everything I said in my previous post has been stated by the POTUS and Hillary. I have to tell you that if nothing like that had been said I would not post anthing. All would be well. All is not well.
 
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Wallstreet, can you shoot redbearde an email and tell him to come over here to argue with us? He brings up valid points unlike these other guys.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Wallstreet, can you shoot redbearde an email and tell him to come over here to argue with us? He brings up valid points unlike these other guys.


Detox you already have WSC'ers inderceding for you isn't ,,that enough ?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

I didn't say anything about Obama,,, I only reported what Michael Moore said....and it's been reported by most major news sources..
I have never understood this. To me it is a total copout to say people are complaining about Obama's race. It just looks like you can't make a valid argument for him or his incompetence so if anyone says anything negative about him the Left says they are criticizing him because he is black. It would be the same thing if a woman or Hispanic or g-ay were in office. I have NEVER heard anyone on the right complain about Obama's race or say he couldn't do the job because of his race or was incompetent because of his race.  If anything I think the right cut him more slack than they should BECAUSE of his race.  They know that anything they say negative can be used against them by the PC police. 
Now flop it around and imagine if a right Republican were in office; would the Left think they weren't allowed to say anything for fear of being called racists. No, they would call the black president an Uncle Tom, etc. or at least imply it. I never discuss this. 
It is a no-win argument because it is a double standard. So, Slim you should let this part of the argument go or swerve it. No winning  or convincing on this one. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


.........quoting someone you REALLY dislike (Moore) for sure means you were trying to make the point.

Poor taste SS...but I know the goal you have is in ANY fashion you want to put Obama down..golf or his color or vacationing or however and whatever way to put him down. Your intentions are blatantly obvious.


You have said on many occasions that you do not like Barack Obama ...to many that also could be taken as  a racist comment.

Whereas, I have never said I dislike Moore..what is this the thought squad in action?

But,, I will say this if Obama has lost Micheal Moore he's in real trouble ..

If, I put Obama down ..so what... like I said he deserves to be put down for what he's doing..and it has nothing to do with the color of his skin ,but everything to do with his actions and ideology...
 
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I have never understood this. To me it is a total copout to say people are complaining about Obama's race. It just looks like you can't make a valid argument for him or his incompetence so if anyone says anything negative about him the Left says they are criticizing him because he is black. It would be the same thing if a woman or Hispanic or g-ay were in office. I have NEVER heard anyone on the right complain about Obama's race or say he couldn't do the job because of his race or was incompetent because of his race.  If anything I think the right cut him more slack than they should BECAUSE of his race.  They know that anything they say negative can be used against them by the PC police. 
Now flop it around and imagine if a right Republican were in office; would the Left think they weren't allowed to say anything for fear of being called racists. No, they would call the black president an Uncle Tom, etc. or at least imply it. I never discuss this. 
It is a no-win argument because it is a double standard. So, Slim you should let this part of the argument go or swerve it. No winning  or convincing on this one. 


Thanks ,you make a solid point   ....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



You have said on many occasions that you do not like Barack Obama ...to many that also could be taken as  a racist comment.

Whereas, I have never said I dislike Moore..what is this the thought squad in action?

But,, I will say this if Obama has lost Micheal Moore he's in real trouble ..

If, I put Obama down ..so what... like I said he deserves to be put down for what he's doing..and it has nothing to do with the color of his skin ,but everything to do with his actions and ideology...

So if I dont like someone then I am being racist?????

 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Wallstreet, can you shoot redbearde an email and tell him to come over here to argue with us? He brings up valid points unlike these other guys.

Nah he jumped ship long ago and did some not too good things in the process, he can stay over there and that is fine with me.


 
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So if I dont like someone then I am being racist?????



To the left ...If that person is Barack Hussein Obama it is ..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

I_Need_A_Detox, do you know when you are in trouble and in deep water in a debate ?

It's when WSC'ers comes into a thread and starts bashing me and not posting to the topic ......

I am sure it's unintended but the appearance of WSC actually saved you from the "discussion" with Detox.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



To the left ...If that person is Barack Hussein Obama it is ..

Deflect much????
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


Nah he jumped ship long ago and did some not too good things in the process, he can stay over there and that is fine with me.


Roger that.

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