Trump - It's a Done Deal....

@spockgato

 Good posts. Pretty concise and insightful. 

I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat .

I can reiterate this fact again and you can choose to disregard it again if you so wish ….

because as Bobby Brown so eloquently sang about in his late 80s hit song while gyrating his rhythmic and slippery heartthrob hips : “ It’s Your Prerogative “…..

But after reading what you wrote to me I will choose to invoke my right to not engage with you .

and it’s not because you have fabricated multiple things about me in an ill fated attempt to smear me like a cheap piece of single ply toilet paper like some restaurants use in their restrooms in order to cut costs and to save money …..

no it’s not that at all , well it is , because I guess we are both concerned with the bottom line in that respect…….

so the bottom line is :

we can agree to disagree ,

but only one of us has conjured up a plethora of unsubstantiated allegations and has spread misinformation and falsehoods about the other one . While the other one can really rap his ass off .

rappers

rapping ass

word up

my prerogative

smear

single ply TP

conjured in a sentence

conjuring the movie

@spockgato

Also. Whoever is at the bar. The next 2 rounds are on me! I even buy Lefties drinks! This would be fun! Bartender. Please turn up the juke box!

@Raiders22

 Not sure why people defend a pos like he's GOD  really strange! Funny thing is the guy is not a conservative or republican just a lying conman with no moral compass amd no belief in GOD.  Doesn't care about anybody or anything besides himself and yet morons give him money and defend him like it was their father. Very unhealthy and quite frankly bizarre.

@Brooklyncapper

 I am sure there are some that do that.  
I do not think most defend him in that way.  
I think most rational folks realize how faulty he has been. 
I think a lot of it stems back to him being a non-politician at a time when folks were extra-disillusioned with politicians. 

Now, I think there is a faction that feel the Left has been out to get him since before day one.  But they would have done that with any Republican.  That part is what it is. 

The issue they did not count on was him going right back at them in an even more forceful way.  There are some folks that like that attitude, instead of the usual ‘placating’ attitude the Republican President usually uses. 
Then some folks, rightly or wrongly, think things were better under him.  
So, in that instance, it is more a defense of him by default as a way of showing disapproval of any Democrat of late. 

The sad thing is that these are the two ‘best’ candidates to ‘defend’ from the best country in the world. 

@Brooklyncapper

 Why do seem to speak in absolutes?

A person either hates Trump and wants him destroyed by any means or a person treats him like GOD. Never can there be an in-between. 

Recently he praised a fictional serial killer, Hannibal Lecter. "The late great Hannibal Lecter."

The dude is deranged. 

So true and we have only ourselves to blame.

@Raiders22

 Post 47 is quite combative, my response to post 47 is you can be better than those you are complaining about. Better means avoiding bad outcomes, avoiding conflict and avoiding making things worse. Better is that you follow the rules of the site and avoid fighting with other members. If as you say the other side does not want to interact, just leave them alone and avoid a bad situation.

Why is taking the high ground some negative thing in your mind? You do not have to wait around for others to do as you want, its ok that others see different than you and disagree but the focus of our objectives here is to create positive respectful discussion and avoid stalking, antagonizing, making the situation worse. I do not see that side trailing your side in the main forums and causing issues. For the most part they keep to themselves, at a bare minimum that is what you should do if not better.

@spockgato

 Smart choice and I hope you do that towards all members going forward. None of what I wrote is fabricated, every single thing I said is action/word/post based. You do all the things I listed exactly as I listed it. Say that you are not partisan in words but your actions and deeds say otherwise, I will go based on your actions and posts not what quasi-rap you think is cute but your actions towards other members and me. As I wrote to Raiders above I hope you will 100% avoid the other party that you obviously cannot get along with and have stalked many times, just avoid them completely and associate with those who think your schtick is interesting and want to reply back to you. 

The great thing about this site is we have enough members that most anyone can find people who like their style or approach and there is no reason to harass those who might not or that might disagree with you and especially politically.

Just more stupid garbage. Anyone knows he was being sarcastic as he compared migrants who are released to the U.S. from insane asylums to Hannibal "having someone over for dinner". And that implys there could be some real crazies who came in under Biden.

We already have several rapists/murders. Time will tell if the next serial killer comes from Joe's open border. 

Old added rule...you cannot discuss politics or religion with anyone, not even your friends or family, without it turning ugly....that's what is happening in here...ugly!

I am not in a "party", I think and act on my own. 

AND JUST WHAT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ARE BEING PUSHED?

And after 4 years of Trump I would say he is not even close to the garbage Biden has put out. Every desicion Biden makes is about votes and not about what is good for the country causing him to flip-flop in the wind. 

I would take 4 years of Trump over the last 4 years any day!

And I for one can appreciate what you are saying in acting and thinking alone....I don't need a party for that because that is what every human being should be doing that is not a sheep....why do I have to belong to a side to see right from wrong of bad from good....both of these candidates are clowns and can shove it....whoever it is will be 4 more years of crap and pushing the country downward...

Wayward thinking is what people should be learning....unfortunately too many followers and not enough leaders... 

Democrats did something that Republicans are not capable of doing if the shoe was on the other foot and saved Mike Johnson seat and political career with teamwork !
But like it or not it’s time to realize there are three parties now. The Democrats, moderate republicans, and MAGA. The first two understand that most Americans want bipartisanship and a functional government. The last one is a cult. JMHO come November Trump will be soundly beaten, Nikki Haley just received 22% of the vote  in Indiana and she’s not even running for the position in her party! ….Raider I’ve made a few bucks of your team totals MLB… 

No it is not combative at all.  It is an honest assessment is all.  I do not 'fight' with anyone on here.  I did not say anything about them not interacting with others.  Perhaps, you are mixing folks up on here.

I am not 'complaining' about anyone, simply pointing out their actions.

It is your definition of 'high ground' that is the problem.  Why does it only have to be 'high ground' when you agree with it.  When it is something you do not want to be 'inclusive' about or find 'common ground' on -- then it is 'combative' or not the 'high ground'.

You can disagree with folks without all of that.  I do it all the time.  You should try it, because you certainly come off as being 'combative' and not being 'inclusive' -- you simply break all of those 'rules' you claim those other folks are breaking.

There are no rules against disagreeing with someone; simply do not make it a personal attack or resort to name calling; you do both of those things all of the time with your snarky comments to those folks on here.

You are wrong about 'the other side' keeping to themselves.  They absolutely do not do that.  They spam every thread and are intentionally being disruptive when there is a discussion going on they disagree with.  Look at this very thread, for example.

So, I think you may have mixed up who you were replying to and about what.  But you addressed me with that post.  I never am combative.  Being assertive about an opinion you disagree with is not combative.  I never name-call or belittle someone or their opinion.  Usually it is simply using facts or data with me to support an opposing view.

I respect folks having a different opinion -- that is expected; what is not expected is for them to stick to them when proven wrong.  That is silly.

When you are shown to be wrong or your opinion is based on faulty facts -- simply admit it and adjust accordingly.

We all make mistakes and are wrong from time to time.]

It is taking the 'high ground' when you admit that and adjust.

Like the man said:

Any smart person should be open to two things:  being wrong and change with that new information. 

@ABooksNightmare

Absolutely you can.  It is done all of the time.  A lot of open forums have these debates all of the time.  Other political and sports and religious forums have it as well.

it is just that people are dogmatic and opinionated about sports, religion, and politics. 

On here, there may not be the right mix of folks that are willing or capable of doing it; but it can be done and is done.

@joe pockets

Why did they do it?

There are far more than three if you want to break it down like that.  I would say seven.  I read a good article the other day that broke it down that way and explained it.  I think they had seven, or maybe nine, distinct categories they classified as parties.

I think it is a misnomer 'most Americans want bipartisanship'.  There is never a time where the Democrats submit to a Republican policy or agenda in the name of being bipartisan.  They are not the party of compromising.  The Republicans do that to the detriment of their own cause(s).  That is the issue I often talk about when I say they never unite behind their candidates like the Democrats always do, etc.

For example,e right now there are a lot of Never-Trump guys/gals out there.  That is why so many of DeSantis/Haley/Vivek interest was out there.  These is no interest in anyone running against Biden.

@joe pockets

 WOW!  I am surprised.  I started okay in MLB.  But these last few weeks have been horrendous!!  I think was +80 units and +30 units the last two years.  But this year has turned awful.

A lot of it has to do with the new rules things and I have not adjusted enough to them.  The phantom runners and changing pitchers after 4-5 innings and then changing pitchers every inning until you can find one to lose the game for you!

MLB has changed a lot -- for the worse in my opinion.

But good luck to you!

Democrats versus the Republicans is like the Capulets versus the Montagues....Shakespeare never really explains to us why these families hate each other...we don't know if there was a fight or if they disagreed on something or if someone touched someones sister in the wrong way, but they hated and despised one another for certain...I believe he did this intentionally so that the mind could wander and create its own reason....somewhat similar to the gold reflection in the briefcase that Jules is carrying in Pulp Fiction that belonged to Marcellus...

This forum is the Capulets and the Montagues and most don't even know why they are fighting...the government is broken and needs fixing...be deranged if you want, but things really need to be rearranged... 

Interesting article by the LA Times about Arizona and the geriatrics....

Arizona's economy is booming, but Biden struggles to reap benefits from voters.....

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-05-12/arizonas-economy-is-booming-but-biden-struggles-to-reap-benefits-from-voters?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

Nikki Haley got 22% because there was no vote for Biden so 128,000 Trump hating Dems voted for Nikki. Too funny.