"Some people are concerned you didn't concede 2020 when you lost and won't concede this time. What do you say to those people?
"I think they're crazy. If I lose an election, and it's fair, I'd be the first one to acknowledge it. So far I thinks it's been fair, a lot of court cases, both sides are pretty lawyered up. Thousands of lawyers are involved here, thousands, can you imagine that. And because, we have too complicated a process".
Doesn't sound untrue or unhinged to me.
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"Some people are concerned you didn't concede 2020 when you lost and won't concede this time. What do you say to those people?
"I think they're crazy. If I lose an election, and it's fair, I'd be the first one to acknowledge it. So far I thinks it's been fair, a lot of court cases, both sides are pretty lawyered up. Thousands of lawyers are involved here, thousands, can you imagine that. And because, we have too complicated a process".
Just remember which side went to court to remove him from the ballot. Just remember which side went to court to remove RFK in some states and keep him on in others. Both sides will contest the outcome any statement to the contrary is supremely naive.
It's going to become the new norm...let the laughing stock continue
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Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:
Just remember which side went to court to remove him from the ballot. Just remember which side went to court to remove RFK in some states and keep him on in others. Both sides will contest the outcome any statement to the contrary is supremely naive.
It's going to become the new norm...let the laughing stock continue
In 2020 Joe Biden collected votes from 24% of the US population.
Do you believe Joe Biden is more popular than any other president, including Reagan, Roosevelt, or Obama who's best was 21%?
America is inherently litigious and to believe any campaign would concede a close election without challenge is nonsensical.
One last thing, after his failed unarmed "insurrection" which branch of the military went in to remove him from office? Oh, he got on his plane and left......got it.
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In 2020 Joe Biden collected votes from 24% of the US population.
Do you believe Joe Biden is more popular than any other president, including Reagan, Roosevelt, or Obama who's best was 21%?
America is inherently litigious and to believe any campaign would concede a close election without challenge is nonsensical.
One last thing, after his failed unarmed "insurrection" which branch of the military went in to remove him from office? Oh, he got on his plane and left......got it.
Gore and Clinton had their election stolen yet I do not recall the whining, crying, tantrum throwing, millions in legal challenges and division when it was against them. Why did Trump cause such a childish partisan divide when HE lost but the other DNC candidates who won the public and lost the scam EC did no such things?
Trump thinks when he wins or his side wins it is due to his excellence and the intelligence of his organization and it is a cheating stealing fake event when he loses. Trump has zero class but his wallet is billions better for being a TNC candidate, so that is the end goal for him no matter what.
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Quick Q-
Gore and Clinton had their election stolen yet I do not recall the whining, crying, tantrum throwing, millions in legal challenges and division when it was against them. Why did Trump cause such a childish partisan divide when HE lost but the other DNC candidates who won the public and lost the scam EC did no such things?
Trump thinks when he wins or his side wins it is due to his excellence and the intelligence of his organization and it is a cheating stealing fake event when he loses. Trump has zero class but his wallet is billions better for being a TNC candidate, so that is the end goal for him no matter what.
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger says the non-credible threats that briefly disrupted voting at two Georgia polling places originated from Russia. “We identified the source; it was from Russia."
Rafensberger is a regular Republican.
Russia! Russia! Russia!
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Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger says the non-credible threats that briefly disrupted voting at two Georgia polling places originated from Russia. “We identified the source; it was from Russia."
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger says the non-credible threats that briefly disrupted voting at two Georgia polling places originated from Russia. “We identified the source; it was from Russia." Rafensberger is a regular Republican. Russia! Russia! Russia!
If Trump loses Putin will be pushing up daisies with Wagner Group chief Yevgeny Prigozhin in 6 months to a year! Ukraine will a get back what stolen and RUSSIA may get a fresh start ! Elections have consequences!
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Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger says the non-credible threats that briefly disrupted voting at two Georgia polling places originated from Russia. “We identified the source; it was from Russia." Rafensberger is a regular Republican. Russia! Russia! Russia!
If Trump loses Putin will be pushing up daisies with Wagner Group chief Yevgeny Prigozhin in 6 months to a year! Ukraine will a get back what stolen and RUSSIA may get a fresh start ! Elections have consequences!
@unplucked_gem Quick Q- Gore and Clinton had their election stolen yet I do not recall the whining, crying, tantrum throwing, millions in legal challenges and division when it was against them. Why did Trump cause such a childish partisan divide when HE lost but the other DNC candidates who won the public and lost the scam EC did no such things? Trump thinks when he wins or his side wins it is due to his excellence and the intelligence of his organization and it is a cheating stealing fake event when he loses. Trump has zero class but his wallet is billions better for being a TNC candidate, so that is the end goal for him no matter what.
Their elections weren't stolen. They simply lost. Gore was a little iffy, but Clinton campaigned poorly and lost.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@unplucked_gem Quick Q- Gore and Clinton had their election stolen yet I do not recall the whining, crying, tantrum throwing, millions in legal challenges and division when it was against them. Why did Trump cause such a childish partisan divide when HE lost but the other DNC candidates who won the public and lost the scam EC did no such things? Trump thinks when he wins or his side wins it is due to his excellence and the intelligence of his organization and it is a cheating stealing fake event when he loses. Trump has zero class but his wallet is billions better for being a TNC candidate, so that is the end goal for him no matter what.
Their elections weren't stolen. They simply lost. Gore was a little iffy, but Clinton campaigned poorly and lost.
"Gore and Clinton had their election stolen yet I do not recall the whining"
Me neither, I was 6.
I'm guessing cause he's Trump and that's how he acts.
The two sides will never come to an agreement or find any middle ground on 2020. But as an objectively minded independent, he's within his right to suggest a steal.
Very similarly to Bernie in 2016 and Joe in 2024.
But it will always remain a what we believe and what we can prove getting us back to what branch of the military went in to get him?
I wasn't really 6
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@wallstreetcappers
"Gore and Clinton had their election stolen yet I do not recall the whining"
Me neither, I was 6.
I'm guessing cause he's Trump and that's how he acts.
The two sides will never come to an agreement or find any middle ground on 2020. But as an objectively minded independent, he's within his right to suggest a steal.
Very similarly to Bernie in 2016 and Joe in 2024.
But it will always remain a what we believe and what we can prove getting us back to what branch of the military went in to get him?
Not to mention, Clinton did whine. Gore didn't. He's a dignified dude. He's just about as smooth as fresh sandpaper, and that ultimately costed him the election. Funny things happened in Florida. Obviously Florida has enough electoral votes to swing election. The rest is history. He took it on the chin. Talked about global warming. Kinda became a walking butt of the joke, then disappeared. Clinton whined though. For a solid year plus. "Oh, it was the Russians! He's working with the Russians! The election was stolen!" She conceded. As did Trump. She didn't foment confidence in the election process though. And the messed up part is, she knew good and well she lost fair and square. People just didn't like her. She didn't campaign well. She didn't spend enough time in key battleground states. Their were tons of Bernie supporters who lost confidence in the party and flat out refused to vote for her. Nothing was stolen. She was beat.
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Not to mention, Clinton did whine. Gore didn't. He's a dignified dude. He's just about as smooth as fresh sandpaper, and that ultimately costed him the election. Funny things happened in Florida. Obviously Florida has enough electoral votes to swing election. The rest is history. He took it on the chin. Talked about global warming. Kinda became a walking butt of the joke, then disappeared. Clinton whined though. For a solid year plus. "Oh, it was the Russians! He's working with the Russians! The election was stolen!" She conceded. As did Trump. She didn't foment confidence in the election process though. And the messed up part is, she knew good and well she lost fair and square. People just didn't like her. She didn't campaign well. She didn't spend enough time in key battleground states. Their were tons of Bernie supporters who lost confidence in the party and flat out refused to vote for her. Nothing was stolen. She was beat.
Sounds like what Trump says...when he wins it is a fair election. Clinton soundly won the popular vote, that given we are an alleged democracy SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING.
Clinton did not whine even 1% the way Trump carried on and still does. Just own the comparison and admit Trump acts like a zero ego child, end of story.
If you guys like Trump then fine but stop making these lame excuses for his behavior, just take the drunk uncle and admit what a awful guy he is.
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Sounds like what Trump says...when he wins it is a fair election. Clinton soundly won the popular vote, that given we are an alleged democracy SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING.
Clinton did not whine even 1% the way Trump carried on and still does. Just own the comparison and admit Trump acts like a zero ego child, end of story.
If you guys like Trump then fine but stop making these lame excuses for his behavior, just take the drunk uncle and admit what a awful guy he is.
"Clinton soundly won the popular vote, that given we are an alleged democracy SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING."
When I lived in Buffalo we paid .75 to take the Scajaquada Expressway under the NYS Thruway Authority. Every day 2-3 times a day. Yet each an every year the bulk of the road repair money went to NYC and Albany.
I'm OK with the EC.
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"Clinton soundly won the popular vote, that given we are an alleged democracy SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING."
When I lived in Buffalo we paid .75 to take the Scajaquada Expressway under the NYS Thruway Authority. Every day 2-3 times a day. Yet each an every year the bulk of the road repair money went to NYC and Albany.
Thats not a really sharp comment, it happens in most every state and there is no avoiding it. In Vegas there is a massive tourist fee that locals do not pay, when I lived in Philly I didnt like taking the turnpike either because there was that toll and the funds went mostly to the turnpike, same goes for when I would go out to Atlantic City...pretty much no way to get there that is reasonable unless you use the toll road. Opportunity tax is everywhere it is tough to avoid it. Even down here during spring training there are fees that tourists pay and it all goes to the big fat slush fund in the end anyway.
The EC had a reasonable purpose 200 years ago but we are a capitalist economy and anyone can live anywhere, work anywhere without limitation and the EC serves zero purpose that it was created for, now its a scheme to manipulate and steal...there is no value to the EC but since the RNC/TNC will not make attempts to shift the popular vote they scheme every single election with that cruddy EC. I have no idea how one of the founding concepts of a democratic election can be erased and there is no balance or equalizer in the case of a split event. If the popular vote is X and the EC is Y there needs to be a fair and equitable, non-partisan equalizer...one should not cancel the other in EITHER direction.
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Thats not a really sharp comment, it happens in most every state and there is no avoiding it. In Vegas there is a massive tourist fee that locals do not pay, when I lived in Philly I didnt like taking the turnpike either because there was that toll and the funds went mostly to the turnpike, same goes for when I would go out to Atlantic City...pretty much no way to get there that is reasonable unless you use the toll road. Opportunity tax is everywhere it is tough to avoid it. Even down here during spring training there are fees that tourists pay and it all goes to the big fat slush fund in the end anyway.
The EC had a reasonable purpose 200 years ago but we are a capitalist economy and anyone can live anywhere, work anywhere without limitation and the EC serves zero purpose that it was created for, now its a scheme to manipulate and steal...there is no value to the EC but since the RNC/TNC will not make attempts to shift the popular vote they scheme every single election with that cruddy EC. I have no idea how one of the founding concepts of a democratic election can be erased and there is no balance or equalizer in the case of a split event. If the popular vote is X and the EC is Y there needs to be a fair and equitable, non-partisan equalizer...one should not cancel the other in EITHER direction.
@StumpTownStu Sounds like what Trump says...when he wins it is a fair election. Clinton soundly won the popular vote, that given we are an alleged democracy SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING. Clinton did not whine even 1% the way Trump carried on and still does. Just own the comparison and admit Trump acts like a zero ego child, end of story. If you guys like Trump then fine but stop making these lame excuses for his behavior, just take the drunk uncle and admit what a awful guy he is.
She won the popular vote. We have an electoral college system. That is not being cheated. And show me where I have made any excuse for any politician. I'll clarify when I I know one side is twisting something (which is always) but I don't make excuses.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@StumpTownStu Sounds like what Trump says...when he wins it is a fair election. Clinton soundly won the popular vote, that given we are an alleged democracy SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING. Clinton did not whine even 1% the way Trump carried on and still does. Just own the comparison and admit Trump acts like a zero ego child, end of story. If you guys like Trump then fine but stop making these lame excuses for his behavior, just take the drunk uncle and admit what a awful guy he is.
She won the popular vote. We have an electoral college system. That is not being cheated. And show me where I have made any excuse for any politician. I'll clarify when I I know one side is twisting something (which is always) but I don't make excuses.
And for the record, as I have said many times, I don't "like" and politicians. I think they are all crooked and self serving. The only politicians i've ever liked were Bernie, who is a liberal as they come, and Tulsi, who is a former Democrat.
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And for the record, as I have said many times, I don't "like" and politicians. I think they are all crooked and self serving. The only politicians i've ever liked were Bernie, who is a liberal as they come, and Tulsi, who is a former Democrat.
@wallstreetcappers And for the record, as I have said many times, I don't "like" and politicians. I think they are all crooked and self serving. The only politicians i've ever liked were Bernie, who is a liberal as they come, and Tulsi, who is a former Democrat.
Agree. I also liked Ross.
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@wallstreetcappers And for the record, as I have said many times, I don't "like" and politicians. I think they are all crooked and self serving. The only politicians i've ever liked were Bernie, who is a liberal as they come, and Tulsi, who is a former Democrat.
Why are you an apologist for someone this disgusting and dividing? What other explanation is there, even if you dislike Biden and Harris to just go along with his daily abuse and stupidity is insulting to our political system and our society.
How would you have reacted if Biden started yammering on about Arnold Palmer showering with other men and that he was well endowed?
That was this week...this week he lost his marbles and for whatever reason his blown mind wanted to wax poetic about Arnold Palmer in the shower.
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@StumpTownStu
Why are you an apologist for someone this disgusting and dividing? What other explanation is there, even if you dislike Biden and Harris to just go along with his daily abuse and stupidity is insulting to our political system and our society.
How would you have reacted if Biden started yammering on about Arnold Palmer showering with other men and that he was well endowed?
That was this week...this week he lost his marbles and for whatever reason his blown mind wanted to wax poetic about Arnold Palmer in the shower.
I'm not an apologist for anyone. I'm simply based. If a guy's words are constantly twisted. If he adjust his microphone stand and the media says he's jerking it off, i'm gonna call out the b.s.
Question for you. Why are you making your political decisions off of dislike for a guys personality and not the issues? You were defending Liz Cheney the other day. Since when out Democrats big in the Cheney camp? Since when our democrats such warhawks? It's like the whole parties stance has become whatever is counter Trump.
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@wallstreetcappers
I'm not an apologist for anyone. I'm simply based. If a guy's words are constantly twisted. If he adjust his microphone stand and the media says he's jerking it off, i'm gonna call out the b.s.
Question for you. Why are you making your political decisions off of dislike for a guys personality and not the issues? You were defending Liz Cheney the other day. Since when out Democrats big in the Cheney camp? Since when our democrats such warhawks? It's like the whole parties stance has become whatever is counter Trump.
Oh, and where did I ever say I dislike Harris. We were literally born in the same city. I've met the woman more than once. This is what you do. You put words in people's mouths. You assign people jerseys, put them in camps, just to be combative. You call them magas if they simply prefer Trump to the other candidates. You call us members of the TNC, say that we've fallen for some scam as if we aren't capable of making our own decisions. Where do you get off?
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@wallstreetcappers
Oh, and where did I ever say I dislike Harris. We were literally born in the same city. I've met the woman more than once. This is what you do. You put words in people's mouths. You assign people jerseys, put them in camps, just to be combative. You call them magas if they simply prefer Trump to the other candidates. You call us members of the TNC, say that we've fallen for some scam as if we aren't capable of making our own decisions. Where do you get off?
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