It is a show of his lack of character, decline in mental capacity and a lack of respect and class for others and especially for the office he is seeking.
I've stated my view on the election, Ive always thought Trump was a schmuck and I think Musk is a schmuck for the same reasons...they stomp on other people and think their affluency makes them better than others. They lack compassion and character, they lack class and respect for all and especially for those they disagree with.
My political stance is both parties deficit spend and given that I side with the spend going to the least in society and to the common citizen not to wars and to tax breaks for large corps. Trump did nothing his last go, he literally did nothing AND he had ZIRP and that means big fat cheap corporate inventory cushions, Biden and Harris had none of that and the wake of covid to deal with.
If you just look the other way when someone is toxic and abusive, what is up with that?
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@StumpTownStu
It is a show of his lack of character, decline in mental capacity and a lack of respect and class for others and especially for the office he is seeking.
I've stated my view on the election, Ive always thought Trump was a schmuck and I think Musk is a schmuck for the same reasons...they stomp on other people and think their affluency makes them better than others. They lack compassion and character, they lack class and respect for all and especially for those they disagree with.
My political stance is both parties deficit spend and given that I side with the spend going to the least in society and to the common citizen not to wars and to tax breaks for large corps. Trump did nothing his last go, he literally did nothing AND he had ZIRP and that means big fat cheap corporate inventory cushions, Biden and Harris had none of that and the wake of covid to deal with.
If you just look the other way when someone is toxic and abusive, what is up with that?
So you do not think Trump is experiencing a decline in his faculties?
Ok you are entitled to whatever opinion you wish but Trump's words, actions, behavior prove the affirmative, but it is curious how one side has been slamming Biden for a decline and apologizing Trump and his.
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@unplucked_gem
So you do not think Trump is experiencing a decline in his faculties?
Ok you are entitled to whatever opinion you wish but Trump's words, actions, behavior prove the affirmative, but it is curious how one side has been slamming Biden for a decline and apologizing Trump and his.
@StumpTownStu It is a show of his lack of character, decline in mental capacity and a lack of respect and class for others and especially for the office he is seeking. I've stated my view on the election, Ive always thought Trump was a schmuck and I think Musk is a schmuck for the same reasons...they stomp on other people and think their affluency makes them better than others. They lack compassion and character, they lack class and respect for all and especially for those they disagree with. My political stance is both parties deficit spend and given that I side with the spend going to the least in society and to the common citizen not to wars and to tax breaks for large corps. Trump did nothing his last go, he literally did nothing AND he had ZIRP and that means big fat cheap corporate inventory cushions, Biden and Harris had none of that and the wake of covid to deal with. If you just look the other way when someone is toxic and abusive, what is up with that?
Just about all politicians are bad people. Some just wear better masks. Trump lacks character, granted. Lacks class, respect, all of those things. I disagreed with the banking regulations he repealed in his first administration. I disagreed with his tax code changes. However I am vehemently against open borders, and I have been for quite some time. The explosion of illegal immigration under Biden isn't fake news. It's not a ploy. A scam. It's a real thing. Our spending in the Russo-Ukrainian conflict is a real thing. I don't agree with it. Funding Israek's genocide in the middle east, i'm not into it. Israel aren't our friends. That's a one way street. Mosad spies on us and plays intelligence games as if we were ann other of their enemies. The tribe only cares about the tribe. They don't care about America, they care about juish Americans. Why are we funding their manifest destiny?
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@StumpTownStu It is a show of his lack of character, decline in mental capacity and a lack of respect and class for others and especially for the office he is seeking. I've stated my view on the election, Ive always thought Trump was a schmuck and I think Musk is a schmuck for the same reasons...they stomp on other people and think their affluency makes them better than others. They lack compassion and character, they lack class and respect for all and especially for those they disagree with. My political stance is both parties deficit spend and given that I side with the spend going to the least in society and to the common citizen not to wars and to tax breaks for large corps. Trump did nothing his last go, he literally did nothing AND he had ZIRP and that means big fat cheap corporate inventory cushions, Biden and Harris had none of that and the wake of covid to deal with. If you just look the other way when someone is toxic and abusive, what is up with that?
Just about all politicians are bad people. Some just wear better masks. Trump lacks character, granted. Lacks class, respect, all of those things. I disagreed with the banking regulations he repealed in his first administration. I disagreed with his tax code changes. However I am vehemently against open borders, and I have been for quite some time. The explosion of illegal immigration under Biden isn't fake news. It's not a ploy. A scam. It's a real thing. Our spending in the Russo-Ukrainian conflict is a real thing. I don't agree with it. Funding Israek's genocide in the middle east, i'm not into it. Israel aren't our friends. That's a one way street. Mosad spies on us and plays intelligence games as if we were ann other of their enemies. The tribe only cares about the tribe. They don't care about America, they care about juish Americans. Why are we funding their manifest destiny?
It’s just tit for tat at this point . Dems didn’t speak up that Biden was going downhill either , but now they yap and yammer quick about Donald’s so called mental decline .
He is an old man by the way . Just like Biden . That has been dealing with boatloads of stress that not only can be attributed to the taxing schedule of running a presidential campaign , but also the multitude of lawsuits thrown at him in order to stop his charge towards November 5th .
And I’m sure nearly losing your life during an assassination attempt doesn’t help one’s comfort level or anxiety either . All in all I think that old pompous fart is handling himself pretty well …….relatively speaking .
Tough crowd in here . Going both ways .
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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It’s just tit for tat at this point . Dems didn’t speak up that Biden was going downhill either , but now they yap and yammer quick about Donald’s so called mental decline .
He is an old man by the way . Just like Biden . That has been dealing with boatloads of stress that not only can be attributed to the taxing schedule of running a presidential campaign , but also the multitude of lawsuits thrown at him in order to stop his charge towards November 5th .
And I’m sure nearly losing your life during an assassination attempt doesn’t help one’s comfort level or anxiety either . All in all I think that old pompous fart is handling himself pretty well …….relatively speaking .
Neither side is tapping the issue, the GOP has not stopped funding Ukraine and have said NOTHING about Israel, you know why right? If EITHER side spoke out against Israel that is a MASSIVE vote block they lose and that is why neither side has said or done a single thing. You cannot blame Biden when the GOP has said and done nothing including Trump. Its 100% about the election and the vote. I'd expect either way that after Jan things will change.
The border issue is in the lap of both parties, Trump campaigned on the border before and did nothing, Trump squashed the bipartisan bill this year that would have been a positive move, that was his fault in both cases...if Trump was really concerned he would have accomplished more in his first term or been more aggressive about supporting ANY legislation...but why would he want to support a positive move before the election? Its his largest calling card outside of the insults and wanderings he cannot help.
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@StumpTownStu
Two things..
Neither side is tapping the issue, the GOP has not stopped funding Ukraine and have said NOTHING about Israel, you know why right? If EITHER side spoke out against Israel that is a MASSIVE vote block they lose and that is why neither side has said or done a single thing. You cannot blame Biden when the GOP has said and done nothing including Trump. Its 100% about the election and the vote. I'd expect either way that after Jan things will change.
The border issue is in the lap of both parties, Trump campaigned on the border before and did nothing, Trump squashed the bipartisan bill this year that would have been a positive move, that was his fault in both cases...if Trump was really concerned he would have accomplished more in his first term or been more aggressive about supporting ANY legislation...but why would he want to support a positive move before the election? Its his largest calling card outside of the insults and wanderings he cannot help.
@StumpTownStu Two things.. Neither side is tapping the issue, the GOP has not stopped funding Ukraine and have said NOTHING about Israel, you know why right? If EITHER side spoke out against Israel that is a MASSIVE vote block they lose and that is why neither side has said or done a single thing. You cannot blame Biden when the GOP has said and done nothing including Trump. Its 100% about the election and the vote. I'd expect either way that after Jan things will change. The border issue is in the lap of both parties, Trump campaigned on the border before and did nothing, Trump squashed the bipartisan bill this year that would have been a positive move, that was his fault in both cases...if Trump was really concerned he would have accomplished more in his first term or been more aggressive about supporting ANY legislation...but why would he want to support a positive move before the election? Its his largest calling card outside of the insults and wanderings he cannot help.
Trump had some of the lowest boarding crossings numbers in history. He used his power through executive order/actions and we saw historically low numbers. Biden had the highest numbers in history. He undid Trumps actions, signed a ridiculous number of his own, and the flood gates opened. This is all out there. This is policy. It's public record. This isn't conspiracy theory stuff.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@StumpTownStu Two things.. Neither side is tapping the issue, the GOP has not stopped funding Ukraine and have said NOTHING about Israel, you know why right? If EITHER side spoke out against Israel that is a MASSIVE vote block they lose and that is why neither side has said or done a single thing. You cannot blame Biden when the GOP has said and done nothing including Trump. Its 100% about the election and the vote. I'd expect either way that after Jan things will change. The border issue is in the lap of both parties, Trump campaigned on the border before and did nothing, Trump squashed the bipartisan bill this year that would have been a positive move, that was his fault in both cases...if Trump was really concerned he would have accomplished more in his first term or been more aggressive about supporting ANY legislation...but why would he want to support a positive move before the election? Its his largest calling card outside of the insults and wanderings he cannot help.
Trump had some of the lowest boarding crossings numbers in history. He used his power through executive order/actions and we saw historically low numbers. Biden had the highest numbers in history. He undid Trumps actions, signed a ridiculous number of his own, and the flood gates opened. This is all out there. This is policy. It's public record. This isn't conspiracy theory stuff.
Again if Trump had made really ANY progress then he could throw around the border topic but he did almost nothing and he did block the bipartisan attempt not long ago so you cannot try and point fingers when you do nothing and actually actively pursue stopping progress.
I dont know if I agree with the analysis about the border, I live in one of the worst borders and locally it is such a common election scam ploy that this cycle it seems LESS, it has not really been a toy like in the last election and the previous ones and I just dont see the drama and extreme posturing that I see in the larger media.
The Ohio thing was such a sickening disgusting stunt, it was insulting it was a flat out lie meant only to enrage the vote base and to push the narrative. Shame on Vance for being a senator, having a part in the situation (the corps got government assistance to bring the Haitian workers because the corps lobbied for it) and for putting those innocent hard working people at risk all so Trump could push a fake narrative.
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@StumpTownStu
Again if Trump had made really ANY progress then he could throw around the border topic but he did almost nothing and he did block the bipartisan attempt not long ago so you cannot try and point fingers when you do nothing and actually actively pursue stopping progress.
I dont know if I agree with the analysis about the border, I live in one of the worst borders and locally it is such a common election scam ploy that this cycle it seems LESS, it has not really been a toy like in the last election and the previous ones and I just dont see the drama and extreme posturing that I see in the larger media.
The Ohio thing was such a sickening disgusting stunt, it was insulting it was a flat out lie meant only to enrage the vote base and to push the narrative. Shame on Vance for being a senator, having a part in the situation (the corps got government assistance to bring the Haitian workers because the corps lobbied for it) and for putting those innocent hard working people at risk all so Trump could push a fake narrative.
Trump had close to 500 executive actions on immigration. Border encounters were the lowest they had been in near memory. They were low under Obama as well. Biden takes office, has over 500 executive actions, most of which reversed Trump's orders, made it a soapbox issue that he was reversing Trump's actions, and border encounters skyrocketed. The highest numbers in history by a wide number. This isn't conspiracy theory stuff. This is all factual. It's public record.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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@wallstreetcappers
Trump had close to 500 executive actions on immigration. Border encounters were the lowest they had been in near memory. They were low under Obama as well. Biden takes office, has over 500 executive actions, most of which reversed Trump's orders, made it a soapbox issue that he was reversing Trump's actions, and border encounters skyrocketed. The highest numbers in history by a wide number. This isn't conspiracy theory stuff. This is all factual. It's public record.
Ah yes, the hanging Chad Al Gore. Back when there were legit journalists
If Trump holds on, how many times will they try to impeach this time?
The Dems have a different way of going about losing and payback
Unreal you can't even call Georgia yet at 94% and only one county left to count. That would have at least 120,000 votes all for Harris. But Georgia was at the center of 2020 so it's not really a surprise. Nevada hasn't even started at close to 1am est
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Ah yes, the hanging Chad Al Gore. Back when there were legit journalists
If Trump holds on, how many times will they try to impeach this time?
The Dems have a different way of going about losing and payback
Unreal you can't even call Georgia yet at 94% and only one county left to count. That would have at least 120,000 votes all for Harris. But Georgia was at the center of 2020 so it's not really a surprise. Nevada hasn't even started at close to 1am est
@unplucked_gem Quick Q- Gore and Clinton had their election stolen yet I do not recall the whining, crying, tantrum throwing, millions in legal challenges and division when it was against them. Why did Trump cause such a childish partisan divide when HE lost but the other DNC candidates who won the public and lost the scam EC did no such things? Trump thinks when he wins or his side wins it is due to his excellence and the intelligence of his organization and it is a cheating stealing fake event when he loses. Trump has zero class but his wallet is billions better for being a TNC candidate, so that is the end goal for him no matter what.
Apples to Oranges and we all know it. Was there massive first-time mail-in voting for Clinton and Gore? Did several states change their election laws at the last hour? Some that were found illegal after the election. The problem was Repub's were slow and flatfooted to challaging these illegal changes. Courts would not hear arguements AFTER the election.
Been on this earth for more than 60 years, never saw anything close to 2020. It stunk! The censoring of Hunter's laptop, like 1970's Russia. That alone was huge interference. Now I hear MSNBC say disinformation got Trump elected and we need more censoring, HA!
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@unplucked_gem Quick Q- Gore and Clinton had their election stolen yet I do not recall the whining, crying, tantrum throwing, millions in legal challenges and division when it was against them. Why did Trump cause such a childish partisan divide when HE lost but the other DNC candidates who won the public and lost the scam EC did no such things? Trump thinks when he wins or his side wins it is due to his excellence and the intelligence of his organization and it is a cheating stealing fake event when he loses. Trump has zero class but his wallet is billions better for being a TNC candidate, so that is the end goal for him no matter what.
Apples to Oranges and we all know it. Was there massive first-time mail-in voting for Clinton and Gore? Did several states change their election laws at the last hour? Some that were found illegal after the election. The problem was Repub's were slow and flatfooted to challaging these illegal changes. Courts would not hear arguements AFTER the election.
Been on this earth for more than 60 years, never saw anything close to 2020. It stunk! The censoring of Hunter's laptop, like 1970's Russia. That alone was huge interference. Now I hear MSNBC say disinformation got Trump elected and we need more censoring, HA!
Funny how thousands of people on their way to crossing the border wearing biden Harris t shirts. Never saw an illegal wearing any Maga gear. The biden admistration was a complete failure. Blame orange man for everything that went wrong and take credit for someone's work.
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Funny how thousands of people on their way to crossing the border wearing biden Harris t shirts. Never saw an illegal wearing any Maga gear. The biden admistration was a complete failure. Blame orange man for everything that went wrong and take credit for someone's work.
@StumpTownStu Again if Trump had made really ANY progress then he could throw around the border topic but he did almost nothing and he did block the bipartisan attempt not long ago so you cannot try and point fingers when you do nothing and actually actively pursue stopping progress. I dont know if I agree with the analysis about the border, I live in one of the worst borders and locally it is such a common election scam ploy that this cycle it seems LESS, it has not really been a toy like in the last election and the previous ones and I just dont see the drama and extreme posturing that I see in the larger media. The Ohio thing was such a sickening disgusting stunt, it was insulting it was a flat out lie meant only to enrage the vote base and to push the narrative. Shame on Vance for being a senator, having a part in the situation (the corps got government assistance to bring the Haitian workers because the corps lobbied for it) and for putting those innocent hard working people at risk all so Trump could push a fake narrative.
@StumpTownStu Again if Trump had made really ANY progress then he could throw around the border topic but he did almost nothing and he did block the bipartisan attempt not long ago so you cannot try and point fingers when you do nothing and actually actively pursue stopping progress. I dont know if I agree with the analysis about the border, I live in one of the worst borders and locally it is such a common election scam ploy that this cycle it seems LESS, it has not really been a toy like in the last election and the previous ones and I just dont see the drama and extreme posturing that I see in the larger media. The Ohio thing was such a sickening disgusting stunt, it was insulting it was a flat out lie meant only to enrage the vote base and to push the narrative. Shame on Vance for being a senator, having a part in the situation (the corps got government assistance to bring the Haitian workers because the corps lobbied for it) and for putting those innocent hard working people at risk all so Trump could push a fake narrative.
Reading this reply is like suffering through a TNC ad on tv while waiting for the football game to come back on. Do you notice the difference between the last few days and the exact same landscape four years ago? Your side is maniacal and extremist that everything has to be some jaded fixed conspiracy. Its like our forums where the wacky bettors blame the refs for the outcome of a betting spread. There IS a difference between how Gore and even Clinton handled the SAME SCENARIO versus how baby Trump did. I dont care if you feel there was fraud fake stolen all that nonsense that does not excuse the assault on vote count workers and elected officials the way the TNC conducted themselves.
Good job rationalizing absurd extremist reactions, yeah true to Trump that when the scenario is right then you can tornado everything around you and feel justified for doing so.
Nutzzzoooooooo logic.
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@UNIMAN
Reading this reply is like suffering through a TNC ad on tv while waiting for the football game to come back on. Do you notice the difference between the last few days and the exact same landscape four years ago? Your side is maniacal and extremist that everything has to be some jaded fixed conspiracy. Its like our forums where the wacky bettors blame the refs for the outcome of a betting spread. There IS a difference between how Gore and even Clinton handled the SAME SCENARIO versus how baby Trump did. I dont care if you feel there was fraud fake stolen all that nonsense that does not excuse the assault on vote count workers and elected officials the way the TNC conducted themselves.
Good job rationalizing absurd extremist reactions, yeah true to Trump that when the scenario is right then you can tornado everything around you and feel justified for doing so.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @StumpTownStu Again if Trump had made really ANY progress then he could throw around the border topic but he did almost nothing and he did block the bipartisan attempt not long ago so you cannot try and point fingers when you do nothing and actually actively pursue stopping progress. I dont know if I agree with the analysis about the border, I live in one of the worst borders and locally it is such a common election scam ploy that this cycle it seems LESS, it has not really been a toy like in the last election and the previous ones and I just dont see the drama and extreme posturing that I see in the larger media. The Ohio thing was such a sickening disgusting stunt, it was insulting it was a flat out lie meant only to enrage the vote base and to push the narrative. Shame on Vance for being a senator, having a part in the situation (the corps got government assistance to bring the Haitian workers because the corps lobbied for it) and for putting those innocent hard working people at risk all so Trump could push a fake narrative. A stunt? Let's here directly from residents. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/09/full_replay_residents_of_springfield_ohio_speak_about_wave_of_haitian_migrants_at_city_commission_meeting.html
So a group of partisan, jaded, blame oriented citizens wants to throw all their woes at the feet of the Hatians who were LEGALLY WORKING there due to the lack of local interest. If those people dislike the Hatians so much then go and kick the corp out and kick the lovely senator out who was in office, kick out all the local and state officials who helped these corps get workers they needed to run their operations. No...typical extremist behavior, exaggerate the narrative and blame the most innocent people who have a different skin color and are LEGALLY WORKING.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @StumpTownStu Again if Trump had made really ANY progress then he could throw around the border topic but he did almost nothing and he did block the bipartisan attempt not long ago so you cannot try and point fingers when you do nothing and actually actively pursue stopping progress. I dont know if I agree with the analysis about the border, I live in one of the worst borders and locally it is such a common election scam ploy that this cycle it seems LESS, it has not really been a toy like in the last election and the previous ones and I just dont see the drama and extreme posturing that I see in the larger media. The Ohio thing was such a sickening disgusting stunt, it was insulting it was a flat out lie meant only to enrage the vote base and to push the narrative. Shame on Vance for being a senator, having a part in the situation (the corps got government assistance to bring the Haitian workers because the corps lobbied for it) and for putting those innocent hard working people at risk all so Trump could push a fake narrative. A stunt? Let's here directly from residents. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/09/full_replay_residents_of_springfield_ohio_speak_about_wave_of_haitian_migrants_at_city_commission_meeting.html
So a group of partisan, jaded, blame oriented citizens wants to throw all their woes at the feet of the Hatians who were LEGALLY WORKING there due to the lack of local interest. If those people dislike the Hatians so much then go and kick the corp out and kick the lovely senator out who was in office, kick out all the local and state officials who helped these corps get workers they needed to run their operations. No...typical extremist behavior, exaggerate the narrative and blame the most innocent people who have a different skin color and are LEGALLY WORKING.
Oh I see, just a "group of" "jaded, blame orienated".
People most likely do not hate Hatians, they dislike a very large group of people who are unfamiliar with laws and have different customs drastically changing their town. And for what? To provide cheap foreign labor to some big corps? Would not have a doubt that car insurance rates are on the increase in Springfield as there are many vehicle accidents involving the influx of foreigners.
It's so funny, I remember a time when democrats would be kicking and screaming about cheap, foreign labor replacing American jobs and lining the pockets of rich corporations. No wonder they lost the presidency, the Senate, and very likely the House remains in Repub control.
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Oh I see, just a "group of" "jaded, blame orienated".
People most likely do not hate Hatians, they dislike a very large group of people who are unfamiliar with laws and have different customs drastically changing their town. And for what? To provide cheap foreign labor to some big corps? Would not have a doubt that car insurance rates are on the increase in Springfield as there are many vehicle accidents involving the influx of foreigners.
It's so funny, I remember a time when democrats would be kicking and screaming about cheap, foreign labor replacing American jobs and lining the pockets of rich corporations. No wonder they lost the presidency, the Senate, and very likely the House remains in Repub control.
What does your reply have to do with what I said? Are the Hatians legally there and performing their job duties per their agreement? The answer is YES they are, so why are you or any citizen there ticked off at them living there?
That city council meeting was televised and I did see plenty of the actual meeting and my comment about extremism is 100% accurate. Its like watching a Kari Lake interview where every and any thing turns into a conspiracy cringe brain blowing tangent. The people complaining are wrong that they are falsely blaming someone legally existing and working for a local business. Not sure what your non-stop DEM diatribe has to do with the situation, the DNC did not negotiate their contract, the Ohio senator is who exactly?
Your side is throwing the tirades so whatever past reminiscing you are trying to correlate has pretty much zero to do with the situation, its just fist waving and diversion but if it makes you feel justified and fulfilled then carry on!
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@UNIMAN
What does your reply have to do with what I said? Are the Hatians legally there and performing their job duties per their agreement? The answer is YES they are, so why are you or any citizen there ticked off at them living there?
That city council meeting was televised and I did see plenty of the actual meeting and my comment about extremism is 100% accurate. Its like watching a Kari Lake interview where every and any thing turns into a conspiracy cringe brain blowing tangent. The people complaining are wrong that they are falsely blaming someone legally existing and working for a local business. Not sure what your non-stop DEM diatribe has to do with the situation, the DNC did not negotiate their contract, the Ohio senator is who exactly?
Your side is throwing the tirades so whatever past reminiscing you are trying to correlate has pretty much zero to do with the situation, its just fist waving and diversion but if it makes you feel justified and fulfilled then carry on!
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