trump's economy failing; worse than Obama's last 3

Obama was an absolute disgrace.... let's try this again.  

www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/01/obama-wins-the-gold-for-worst-economic-recovery-ever/

Fubar... even you can do the math when this article was written,  and when Trump took office. Lol. 

Cool and for every partisan editorial opinion piece Raiders posts we can find just as many contradicting those claims.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/09/20/trump-has-created-15-million-fewer-jobs-than-obama/#40efa05827ce\

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/20/trump-v-obama-economy-charts/

You Trumper's aren't really proving much. Again Obama's recovery doesn't look all that slow in his second term considering Trump is creating fewer jobs. If Obama was terrible what does that say about Trump? He cannot even beat the slowest economic recovery ever? hmmm 

And another one. 

https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2020/02/donald-trump-vs-barack-obama-on-jobs-and-jobs-growth-under-other-presidents.html

Ahhhhhh. You're right,. We've just had a Chinese Pandemic to deal with.   What was your question again?? 

These articles were pre-pandemic genius. Try again. 

Shot down by their own irrational, non-factual rhetoric!

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Simply astounding.   Can you remind me again what policies your annointed one put in place to achieve such stellar growth. 

Talk about  an "" empty suit. """ 

Fubar... you have a lot of catching up to do .  Get cracking on your replies to our positions 

Receovery from what?  A recovery that was FORCED by the previous *REPUBLICAN* disaster.  As usual.  As Midnight1 correctly pointed out in another thread and I followed up on, in modern history it's seemingly always the republicans leaving a mess behind and Clinton, then Obama, then Biden have to clean it up

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Just what did o`bama do to enable this growth  ?   This question goes unanswered,  because he contributed nothing at all  !!! 

He has done more than Trump we know that for sure from the verified numbers. Again, if Obama contributed nothing at all, yet still created more jobs and growth than Trump, what does that say about Trump??? 

You keep asking what Obama has done, yet haven't been able to name a single Trump achievement on the economic policy front. What is Trump's greatest achievement? Brining back an outdated 1950s coal industry??? Or is your answer simply a generic "de-regulation"? Hilarious.

Obama created millions of service jobs in healthcare and tech. There you go! Any other questions? 

https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/06/news/economy/obama-over-11-million-jobs/index.html

I forgot Trump is a huge tech guy too, he cannot stop raving about his new TIVO or his big time meeting with Tim Apple a couple of years ago. 

Really ?? HE created those jobs ?  Through what policy achievement ? 

Merely ""presiding""  over job growth doesn't mean he contributed to it in any meaningful way.  

Both you and Fubar are still silent on this topic  

Yes, he actually did create those jobs. Either you are too young to realize the economy was in despair when he took over from Bush, or you simply have a terrible memory. 

Really? What is Trump's glaring economic policy achievement? I'll wait..... 

It appears Trump walked into a solid economy and presided over job growth, which wasn't the case when Obama took over after disastrous Bush. You seem to deflect a lot because you do not have any answers for what Trump has supposedly done. Classic. I've provided ample articles detailing Obama's policies and achievements, while you cannot seem to provide a single answer or source for Trump's economic "policy achievements." Not surprised. You do not add anything of substance in your posts. Again what has Trump done? You frame him as the messiah, yet cannot name a single specific signature economic policy because one does not exist.

I'll give you a specific one for Obama it's called the "American Recovery and Investment Act of 2009." Read up on it. Funneled $180 billion back into a Bush recession economy, and paved the way for the economy to recover from the biggest recession at the time since the Great Depression.

Now...name just a single signature economic policy for Trump and how it is currently leading to success for our economy??? Again....I'll wait.....and I'll keep waiting because I know you cannot name one. 

I'm sure your response will be something basic like "de-regulation," so specific. Too funny. You have nothing. Concede. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/trump-didnt-make-this-economy/606115/

Pretty much what I expected.. A lack of a response because I know you are still searching for a signature Trump economic policy. 

Trumpcare??? Oh wait..... The 200 feet of new Wall???.... Oh wait. 

Just de-regulation and environmental roll backs....so we can continue destroying the environment with outdated energy sources....Great plan! 

All of this arguing over the past is so silly. There is no need for it. The bottom line is that Obama took office during a period of declining interest rates which historically remains the most drastic decline (as a % of the federal funds rate) ever. Rates bottomed out during Obama's time in office and remained on a flat line near zero for nearly his entire presidency. 

Trump took office during a period of rising rates which peaked around 2.4% but have now fallen back to Obama levels. 

I think all of this arguing over Obama and Trump and whose presidency was better for the economy is silly. One of the most influential variables in economic policy is not what Obama did or didn't do, but rather the Federal Fund Rates during his presidency. Obama benefited from the lowest period in USA history in this regard. Google a chart and there your proof will lie. 

Fubha...study some economics. Rush....use the economics to explain to the 5.6%-ers that their argument is silly. 

Trump's economy excelled during a period of rising rates BECAUSE of other economic policies. Obama benefited from falling rates. It's that simple. 

Easy question to answer ...not just environmental roll backs..but rolling back all of Obama administrations actions...in other words just do the opposite of what Obama did..and "Viola" ..

Deezy - what has the current democratic party done to help the President of the United States - NAME ONE??????????????

That is not the topic we are focused on at the moment. Keep up. The support should be reciprocal. The President shows no support for any Dems in office or "Democratic" states, so why should they show him love? All he does is attack the blue states, and claim he shouldn't support Democratic governors. You think that is leadership? He is the President of all states, not just Republican ones.

By the way I am still waiting on the name of one signature economic policy from Trump, and not a single one of the Trumpers can name one. Hilarious.