Trump has destroyed billions in shareholder and bondholder value over the years, that is a fact..
To me the submarine in the game is how he took a big fat write-off under the tax code saying you cannot claim that if you have an interest in the loss writeoff which Trump has. He has a 5% interest in those money losing AC casinos out there still and I am sure his fraud lawyers are hanging onto some remote legal ruling that they think gave him a loophole to this IRS regulation. That is why NY is going after him, he took that enormous NOL tax refund and if it is found he was not due that refund it will likely sink his entire crumbling empire. With taxes and penalties that is for sure more than he has given his nature for huge leverage, he is not liquid 100 plus M, he might on paper be worth that but with his high margin percentage it would be difficult to pull out the cash and also difficult to get more loans given he leverages every single thing he can...which is the reason he lost AC multiple times over.
I bet that dope Alan D will come out with some yacking to the point I made that there is some case where someone took a refund off a NOL when they still held an interest in the NOL...but that is the black swan in this whole leveraged debacle.
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Trump has destroyed billions in shareholder and bondholder value over the years, that is a fact..
To me the submarine in the game is how he took a big fat write-off under the tax code saying you cannot claim that if you have an interest in the loss writeoff which Trump has. He has a 5% interest in those money losing AC casinos out there still and I am sure his fraud lawyers are hanging onto some remote legal ruling that they think gave him a loophole to this IRS regulation. That is why NY is going after him, he took that enormous NOL tax refund and if it is found he was not due that refund it will likely sink his entire crumbling empire. With taxes and penalties that is for sure more than he has given his nature for huge leverage, he is not liquid 100 plus M, he might on paper be worth that but with his high margin percentage it would be difficult to pull out the cash and also difficult to get more loans given he leverages every single thing he can...which is the reason he lost AC multiple times over.
I bet that dope Alan D will come out with some yacking to the point I made that there is some case where someone took a refund off a NOL when they still held an interest in the NOL...but that is the black swan in this whole leveraged debacle.
Trump has destroyed billions in shareholder and bondholder value over the years, that is a fact..
To me the submarine in the game is how he took a big fat write-off under the tax code saying you cannot claim that if you have an interest in the loss writeoff which Trump has. He has a 5% interest in those money losing AC casinos out there still and I am sure his fraud lawyers are hanging onto some remote legal ruling that they think gave him a loophole to this IRS regulation. That is why NY is going after him, he took that enormous NOL tax refund and if it is found he was not due that refund it will likely sink his entire crumbling empire. With taxes and penalties that is for sure more than he has given his nature for huge leverage, he is not liquid 100 plus M, he might on paper be worth that but with his high margin percentage it would be difficult to pull out the cash and also difficult to get more loans given he leverages every single thing he can...which is the reason he lost AC multiple times over.
I bet that dope Alan D will come out with some yacking to the point I made that there is some case where someone took a refund off a NOL when they still held an interest in the NOL...but that is the black swan in this whole leveraged debacle.
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Trump has destroyed billions in shareholder and bondholder value over the years, that is a fact..
To me the submarine in the game is how he took a big fat write-off under the tax code saying you cannot claim that if you have an interest in the loss writeoff which Trump has. He has a 5% interest in those money losing AC casinos out there still and I am sure his fraud lawyers are hanging onto some remote legal ruling that they think gave him a loophole to this IRS regulation. That is why NY is going after him, he took that enormous NOL tax refund and if it is found he was not due that refund it will likely sink his entire crumbling empire. With taxes and penalties that is for sure more than he has given his nature for huge leverage, he is not liquid 100 plus M, he might on paper be worth that but with his high margin percentage it would be difficult to pull out the cash and also difficult to get more loans given he leverages every single thing he can...which is the reason he lost AC multiple times over.
I bet that dope Alan D will come out with some yacking to the point I made that there is some case where someone took a refund off a NOL when they still held an interest in the NOL...but that is the black swan in this whole leveraged debacle.
I do not agree with that at all. The RNC voter as has been said could care less the slimeball Trump is, that he is a cheater a rude insensitive putz...that he has cost investors billions of dollars. They only care about what his position can do for their political and religious beliefs, even if Trump couldnt give a rats behind about religion and likely makes fun of his followers behind closed doors for the saps they are.
So the RNC blind will come to the polls and actually believe he is the correct candidate because they are against the core of the DNC platform. Ive been peppered with RNC and DNC ads to a point of nausea and I actually do not agree with much of the DNC platform either, it is too far left..extremes do not win elections and they need to knock off these FREE and Medicare expansion agendas because the working class DNC voter likely is not interested in getting clocked across the head so the older generation who got to retire and experience multiple stock market and housing booms can get more freebies. The DNC has failed to market the proper selling points to the mid section of the voter base and it makes getting that loser Biden elected very difficult.
What an awful setup we have....a total jerk who berates, cheats, abuses and is a pompous moron OR a guy who has an entitled kid getting Russian favors and is a lifer who has accomplished very little but accumulating family wealth. Awful choices, its sickening.
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Midnight,
I do not agree with that at all. The RNC voter as has been said could care less the slimeball Trump is, that he is a cheater a rude insensitive putz...that he has cost investors billions of dollars. They only care about what his position can do for their political and religious beliefs, even if Trump couldnt give a rats behind about religion and likely makes fun of his followers behind closed doors for the saps they are.
So the RNC blind will come to the polls and actually believe he is the correct candidate because they are against the core of the DNC platform. Ive been peppered with RNC and DNC ads to a point of nausea and I actually do not agree with much of the DNC platform either, it is too far left..extremes do not win elections and they need to knock off these FREE and Medicare expansion agendas because the working class DNC voter likely is not interested in getting clocked across the head so the older generation who got to retire and experience multiple stock market and housing booms can get more freebies. The DNC has failed to market the proper selling points to the mid section of the voter base and it makes getting that loser Biden elected very difficult.
What an awful setup we have....a total jerk who berates, cheats, abuses and is a pompous moron OR a guy who has an entitled kid getting Russian favors and is a lifer who has accomplished very little but accumulating family wealth. Awful choices, its sickening.
The RNC voter as has been said could care less the slimeball Trump is, that he is a cheater a rude insensitive putz...that he has cost investors billions of dollars. They only care about what his position can do for their political and religious beliefs, even if Trump couldnt give a rats behind about religion and likely makes fun of his followers behind closed doors for the saps they are.
this part we can agree about because its plainly obvious . its a real thing .
but the dnc platform is not an event which has happened and may never
it is at best a wish list which will get considerable pushback from many democrats themselves and it will only take one dem in the senate (after they win back the senate narrowly) to derail any specific extreme proposal . in actual practice it will most likely settle out somewhere just a little left of center .
like i said , if the dems win the senate it will be maybe a one or possibly a 2 vote edge only .not more
and not all dems in the senate r onboard with anything extreme from either side . so no such legislation would actually come to pass . possibly in the house . but doa in the senate with a very slim majority .
not to worry
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
The RNC voter as has been said could care less the slimeball Trump is, that he is a cheater a rude insensitive putz...that he has cost investors billions of dollars. They only care about what his position can do for their political and religious beliefs, even if Trump couldnt give a rats behind about religion and likely makes fun of his followers behind closed doors for the saps they are.
this part we can agree about because its plainly obvious . its a real thing .
but the dnc platform is not an event which has happened and may never
it is at best a wish list which will get considerable pushback from many democrats themselves and it will only take one dem in the senate (after they win back the senate narrowly) to derail any specific extreme proposal . in actual practice it will most likely settle out somewhere just a little left of center .
like i said , if the dems win the senate it will be maybe a one or possibly a 2 vote edge only .not more
and not all dems in the senate r onboard with anything extreme from either side . so no such legislation would actually come to pass . possibly in the house . but doa in the senate with a very slim majority .
Trump has a better chance of being incarcerated than reelected.
perhaps very very very heavily fined ,ya
and he deserves imprisonment imo
but it will go to the SCOTUS and u know what that means rump will escape his due once again
and the repos will cheer when he escapes because anything the dems want even if that is justice the repos will automatically oppose and declare victory when justice is thwarted
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Trump has a better chance of being incarcerated than reelected.
perhaps very very very heavily fined ,ya
and he deserves imprisonment imo
but it will go to the SCOTUS and u know what that means rump will escape his due once again
and the repos will cheer when he escapes because anything the dems want even if that is justice the repos will automatically oppose and declare victory when justice is thwarted
from POLITICO The Times story, by reporters Russ Buettner, Susanne Craig and Mike McIntire (and surely backed by a large team of editors and lawyers), was appropriately skeptical in contrasting the Trump myth with the reality embedded in the tax returns. But there was at least a mild tension in the story, amplified by the reaction of Trump critics. The criticism flowed simultaneously in two directions:
— Trump is a tax cheat, using unscrupulous schemes to avoid paying huge sums that the government is fairly owed.
— Trump is a phony, who really is not that great at business after all. His finances, the Times said, are “beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed.” A CNN analysis by Stephen Collison said “Trump’s image is a sham” and that he is “a pitifully inept businessman.”
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from POLITICO The Times story, by reporters Russ Buettner, Susanne Craig and Mike McIntire (and surely backed by a large team of editors and lawyers), was appropriately skeptical in contrasting the Trump myth with the reality embedded in the tax returns. But there was at least a mild tension in the story, amplified by the reaction of Trump critics. The criticism flowed simultaneously in two directions:
— Trump is a tax cheat, using unscrupulous schemes to avoid paying huge sums that the government is fairly owed.
— Trump is a phony, who really is not that great at business after all. His finances, the Times said, are “beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed.” A CNN analysis by Stephen Collison said “Trump’s image is a sham” and that he is “a pitifully inept businessman.”
from POLITICOThe Times story, by reporters Russ Buettner, Susanne Craig and Mike McIntire (and surely backed by a large team of editors and lawyers), was appropriately skeptical in contrasting the Trump myth with the reality embedded in the tax returns. But there was at least a mild tension in the story, amplified by the reaction of Trump critics. The criticism flowed simultaneously in two directions: — Trump is a tax cheat, using unscrupulous schemes to avoid paying huge sums that the government is fairly owed. — Trump is a phony, who really is not that great at business after all. His finances, the Times said, are “beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed.” A CNN analysis by Stephen Collison said “Trump’s image is a sham” and that he is “a pitifully inept businessman.”
now at least we know some details of why rump is so anxious to keep his taxreturns hidden from public view
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
from POLITICOThe Times story, by reporters Russ Buettner, Susanne Craig and Mike McIntire (and surely backed by a large team of editors and lawyers), was appropriately skeptical in contrasting the Trump myth with the reality embedded in the tax returns. But there was at least a mild tension in the story, amplified by the reaction of Trump critics. The criticism flowed simultaneously in two directions: — Trump is a tax cheat, using unscrupulous schemes to avoid paying huge sums that the government is fairly owed. — Trump is a phony, who really is not that great at business after all. His finances, the Times said, are “beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed.” A CNN analysis by Stephen Collison said “Trump’s image is a sham” and that he is “a pitifully inept businessman.”
now at least we know some details of why rump is so anxious to keep his taxreturns hidden from public view
Federal appeals court: Trump must turn over tax records to New York prosecutor
While those headlines in USA TODAY article imply justice may be done, don't hold your breath. trump's army of lawyers will appeal AGAIN, to the Supreme Court, where it is expected trump will have stacked SCOTUS with a GOP friendly 6-3 conservative majority by the time the case is heard, and trump will escape justice once again...
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Federal appeals court: Trump must turn over tax records to New York prosecutor
While those headlines in USA TODAY article imply justice may be done, don't hold your breath. trump's army of lawyers will appeal AGAIN, to the Supreme Court, where it is expected trump will have stacked SCOTUS with a GOP friendly 6-3 conservative majority by the time the case is heard, and trump will escape justice once again...
“She's a Communist. She's not a socialist, she's well beyond a socialist,” trump said, going on to make false, fearmongering claims that Harris wants to “open up the borders to allow killers and murderers and rapists to pour into our country.”
-- donald "the rapist/racist/fascist" trump, calling Kamala Harris a "monster"
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“She's a Communist. She's not a socialist, she's well beyond a socialist,” trump said, going on to make false, fearmongering claims that Harris wants to “open up the borders to allow killers and murderers and rapists to pour into our country.”
-- donald "the rapist/racist/fascist" trump, calling Kamala Harris a "monster"
Twitter suspends fake accounts pretending to be Black Trump supporters
Twitter has recently suspended a slew of fake accounts pretending to be Black supporters of President Donald Trump. Many have tweeted this identical phrase: "YES IM BLACK AND IM VOTING FOR TRUMP."
A Twitter spokesperson told CNN the accounts violated rules against platform manipulation and spam, which ban users from tweeting to "artificially amplify or suppress information," among other activities. The fake accounts are the latest attempt at misinformation related to the 2020 presidential election -- this time -- in the form of fake Trump supporters.
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Twitter suspends fake accounts pretending to be Black Trump supporters
Twitter has recently suspended a slew of fake accounts pretending to be Black supporters of President Donald Trump. Many have tweeted this identical phrase: "YES IM BLACK AND IM VOTING FOR TRUMP."
A Twitter spokesperson told CNN the accounts violated rules against platform manipulation and spam, which ban users from tweeting to "artificially amplify or suppress information," among other activities. The fake accounts are the latest attempt at misinformation related to the 2020 presidential election -- this time -- in the form of fake Trump supporters.
US intelligence analysts feared Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says
BUSINESS INSIDER US intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday.
Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year.
Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materialsin an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
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US intelligence analysts feared Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says
BUSINESS INSIDER US intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday.
Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year.
Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materialsin an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
Twitter suspends fake accounts pretending to be Black Trump supporters
Twitter has recently suspended a slew of fake accounts pretending to be Black supporters of President Donald Trump. Many have tweeted this identical phrase: "YES IM BLACK AND IM VOTING FOR TRUMP."
rump lickers will do anyting to cheat for rump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Twitter suspends fake accounts pretending to be Black Trump supporters
Twitter has recently suspended a slew of fake accounts pretending to be Black supporters of President Donald Trump. Many have tweeted this identical phrase: "YES IM BLACK AND IM VOTING FOR TRUMP."
People will continue to speak out about this madman. Unfortunately it is too late in many cases . General Kelly sold his soul for this POS & only now he's found the courage to speak out.
more to come
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
People will continue to speak out about this madman. Unfortunately it is too late in many cases . General Kelly sold his soul for this POS & only now he's found the courage to speak out.
US intelligence analysts feared Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says
BUSINESS INSIDER
US intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday.
Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year.
Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materialsin an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
wow . this explains everything
i knew the russkies would have something to do with helping rump yet again
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
US intelligence analysts feared Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says
BUSINESS INSIDER
US intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday.
Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year.
Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materialsin an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
wow . this explains everything
i knew the russkies would have something to do with helping rump yet again
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: US intelligence analysts feared Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says BUSINESS INSIDER US intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday. Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year. Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materials in an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
wow . this explains everything i knew the russkies would have something to do with helping rump yet again
That's the way it appears, yes.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: US intelligence analysts feared Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says BUSINESS INSIDER US intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday. Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year. Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materials in an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
wow . this explains everything i knew the russkies would have something to do with helping rump yet again
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: US intelligence analysts feared Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says BUSINESS INSIDERUS intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday. Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year. Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materials in an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden. Are you really that stupid, Good Lord? What in Gods' name is wrong with you? You can't come to terms that Biden is a piece of shit!!!!
The only piece of shit here is phony Christians like YOU.......
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Quote Originally Posted by 704EVER:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: US intelligence analysts feared Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says BUSINESS INSIDERUS intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday. Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year. Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materials in an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden. Are you really that stupid, Good Lord? What in Gods' name is wrong with you? You can't come to terms that Biden is a piece of shit!!!!
The only piece of shit here is phony Christians like YOU.......
"He lies with a kind of cavalier frequency. He’s spread bigotry and hatred and division on a regular basis. He shows no interest or understanding for any sort of policy depth, and I feel like he’s uniquely unqualified to be president."
— John Legend (about trump)
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"He lies with a kind of cavalier frequency. He’s spread bigotry and hatred and division on a regular basis. He shows no interest or understanding for any sort of policy depth, and I feel like he’s uniquely unqualified to be president."
"He lies with a kind of cavalier frequency. He’s spread bigotry and hatred and division on a regular basis. He shows no interest or understanding for any sort of policy depth, and I feel like he’s uniquely unqualified to be president." — John Legend (about trump)
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
"He lies with a kind of cavalier frequency. He’s spread bigotry and hatred and division on a regular basis. He shows no interest or understanding for any sort of policy depth, and I feel like he’s uniquely unqualified to be president." — John Legend (about trump)
White House science office lists 'ending the COVID-19 pandemic' as an accomplishment... ... It's not over yet!
USA TODAY WASHINGTON – The trump admin’s science policy office on Tuesday listed “ending the COVID-19 pandemic” among the Trump administration's first-term accomplishments, as the US breaks records for new coronavirus cases daily.
A press release from the Office of Science and Technology Policy lists the "decisive actions to engage scientists and health professionals in academia, industry, and government to understand, treat, and defeat the disease” as a success.
However, the disease has NOT been defeated, and the WH has signaled they are not going to be able to control it before a vaccine is available.
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White House science office lists 'ending the COVID-19 pandemic' as an accomplishment... ... It's not over yet!
USA TODAY WASHINGTON – The trump admin’s science policy office on Tuesday listed “ending the COVID-19 pandemic” among the Trump administration's first-term accomplishments, as the US breaks records for new coronavirus cases daily.
A press release from the Office of Science and Technology Policy lists the "decisive actions to engage scientists and health professionals in academia, industry, and government to understand, treat, and defeat the disease” as a success.
However, the disease has NOT been defeated, and the WH has signaled they are not going to be able to control it before a vaccine is available.
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