Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @I_Need_A_Detox You're an idiot! Atrocities happen all the time in WAR! Didn't hear a peep out of you when your comrades were bombing hospitals and schools. You whining about it & trying to stake claim on a moral high road is one of the phoniest comments you've spewed in this forum. Crawl back under your rock. Wow. How do you misinterpret this and go straight to name-calling? You make it seem like folks are cheering on Russia. No one is saying what they are doing is right at all. Of course, bombing hospitals is not right. The point is that Ukraine is not the bastion of freedom and a Democratic State that the Left portrays them to be. They are fully capable of evil things as well. They are corrupt and have a corrupt president also. They are the most corrupt country in Europe. That is not to absolve Russia in any way — it is just fact. But the Left has decided to choose this as their ‘hill to die on’, so to speak and dare anyone to say anything bad about Ukraine or their ‘superstar’ president. Then when the absurdity and hypocrisy of this is pointed out — the name-calling starts, along with saying the Right is unsympathetic. It is ridiculous. Just because the Left has chosen a side, does not mean the Right has chosen a side. It, for sure, does not mean they have to choose a side just because the Left wants them to.
Could not have said it better!
IMO, it serves no purpose to bomb hospitals, schools, and other civilian locations unless Ukraine troops are hiding there. The logic doesn't fit, we see an old couple chewing out Russian soldiers who busted their gate, we hear Biden say to our troops, " you will see women lay down in front of tanks" and guess what, the Russians do not kill them!
Why the hell not?? THEY'RE BUTCHERS!!!!
The civilian deaths toll just past 1100. That is less than 4 days of US drug overdose deaths.
Yes the invasion is WRONG! Millions displaced, cities in rubble. It needs to stop!!!! NOT ESCALATE!!!! NOT buying the bullshit the Russians all bad, Ukraine innocent victim. Life is a two- way street.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @I_Need_A_Detox You're an idiot! Atrocities happen all the time in WAR! Didn't hear a peep out of you when your comrades were bombing hospitals and schools. You whining about it & trying to stake claim on a moral high road is one of the phoniest comments you've spewed in this forum. Crawl back under your rock. Wow. How do you misinterpret this and go straight to name-calling? You make it seem like folks are cheering on Russia. No one is saying what they are doing is right at all. Of course, bombing hospitals is not right. The point is that Ukraine is not the bastion of freedom and a Democratic State that the Left portrays them to be. They are fully capable of evil things as well. They are corrupt and have a corrupt president also. They are the most corrupt country in Europe. That is not to absolve Russia in any way — it is just fact. But the Left has decided to choose this as their ‘hill to die on’, so to speak and dare anyone to say anything bad about Ukraine or their ‘superstar’ president. Then when the absurdity and hypocrisy of this is pointed out — the name-calling starts, along with saying the Right is unsympathetic. It is ridiculous. Just because the Left has chosen a side, does not mean the Right has chosen a side. It, for sure, does not mean they have to choose a side just because the Left wants them to.
Could not have said it better!
IMO, it serves no purpose to bomb hospitals, schools, and other civilian locations unless Ukraine troops are hiding there. The logic doesn't fit, we see an old couple chewing out Russian soldiers who busted their gate, we hear Biden say to our troops, " you will see women lay down in front of tanks" and guess what, the Russians do not kill them!
Why the hell not?? THEY'RE BUTCHERS!!!!
The civilian deaths toll just past 1100. That is less than 4 days of US drug overdose deaths.
Yes the invasion is WRONG! Millions displaced, cities in rubble. It needs to stop!!!! NOT ESCALATE!!!! NOT buying the bullshit the Russians all bad, Ukraine innocent victim. Life is a two- way street.
Until yesterday having one neo-nazi in a rally would deem the whole crowd a nazi crowd. Today having a whole neo-nazi battalion is just a fringe minority and it's disingenious to categorize the whole group as such
This disconnect shows the strength of the stranglehold the media (state media) has on the average American
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Until yesterday having one neo-nazi in a rally would deem the whole crowd a nazi crowd. Today having a whole neo-nazi battalion is just a fringe minority and it's disingenious to categorize the whole group as such
This disconnect shows the strength of the stranglehold the media (state media) has on the average American
Social media appears to be censoring videos of the war crimes being committed by Azov nazis in Ukraine Accounts posting the videos are being banned “Fact checkers” will fire up tonight / tomorrow to “Hunter Biden laptop” those videos
Saw the video, freaking brutal and obviously real.
Not going to post a link here. Google and you'll find it.
From CNN; Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has refused to sit down with Russia's negotiators if they seek to solely discuss the "denazification" of Ukraine.
Does Ukraine wish to keep their nazi's?
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Social media appears to be censoring videos of the war crimes being committed by Azov nazis in Ukraine Accounts posting the videos are being banned “Fact checkers” will fire up tonight / tomorrow to “Hunter Biden laptop” those videos
Saw the video, freaking brutal and obviously real.
Not going to post a link here. Google and you'll find it.
From CNN; Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has refused to sit down with Russia's negotiators if they seek to solely discuss the "denazification" of Ukraine.
Social media gem, President asking all civilians to come get weapons and fight for your country, then cries war crime when civilians are targeted? WTF you think they going to do when you tell everyone to come grab a rifle and shoot the invaders? This invasion MAY BE wrong that’s not for me to judge but to claim one side is evil and the other just is blasphemy
Freedom road was a one-way street
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Social media gem, President asking all civilians to come get weapons and fight for your country, then cries war crime when civilians are targeted? WTF you think they going to do when you tell everyone to come grab a rifle and shoot the invaders? This invasion MAY BE wrong that’s not for me to judge but to claim one side is evil and the other just is blasphemy
Russia's relations with China are at the strongest level ever, says Sergei Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister, today. China has refused to condemn Moscow's actions in Ukraine, and repeatedly voiced opposition to the sanctions. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-28/russia-china-relations-at-strongest-level-ever-says-lavrov
I explained India's views on this, with an article from there. Can you research and find out why China has not condemned Russia yet? That way you can at least see their viewpoint. Then see if you think they have valid points or not?
Like the guy said the other day -- they say the World is united in condemning Russia but that is not the case -- it is the West united in condemning Russia.
If you cannot find it let me know, and I will copy it in here for you. But it is best if you do the research for yourself, that way you can read another viewpoint and not just what the US media is promoting. The Left wants EVERYONE to agree with their side, yet they do not want to see the side of billions of others.
Not that it is right or wrong -- but it is their reasoning.
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Russia's relations with China are at the strongest level ever, says Sergei Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister, today. China has refused to condemn Moscow's actions in Ukraine, and repeatedly voiced opposition to the sanctions. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-28/russia-china-relations-at-strongest-level-ever-says-lavrov
I explained India's views on this, with an article from there. Can you research and find out why China has not condemned Russia yet? That way you can at least see their viewpoint. Then see if you think they have valid points or not?
Like the guy said the other day -- they say the World is united in condemning Russia but that is not the case -- it is the West united in condemning Russia.
If you cannot find it let me know, and I will copy it in here for you. But it is best if you do the research for yourself, that way you can read another viewpoint and not just what the US media is promoting. The Left wants EVERYONE to agree with their side, yet they do not want to see the side of billions of others.
Not that it is right or wrong -- but it is their reasoning.
To pick a side, US has stood strongly with Ukraine, NATO, the West and the democracy against Russia and autocracy. China, as Sergei Lavrov said, has been Russia's best friend as ever now.
In this country, some people might be picking the other side but at the end of the day, we are united with vast majority of the nations in this world supporting Ukraine.
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To pick a side, US has stood strongly with Ukraine, NATO, the West and the democracy against Russia and autocracy. China, as Sergei Lavrov said, has been Russia's best friend as ever now.
In this country, some people might be picking the other side but at the end of the day, we are united with vast majority of the nations in this world supporting Ukraine.
I knew progressives would now start saying it’s ok to torture POW’s. These people will do whatever they’re told and have zero critical thinking ability.
Basically no country in the world says it’s ok.
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I knew progressives would now start saying it’s ok to torture POW’s. These people will do whatever they’re told and have zero critical thinking ability.
Peace talks resume in Moscow as the Kremlin point is that us attack systems should not be staged in Ukraine and that it remain neutral to NATO alliance.
Talks continue in Istanbul turkey tomorrow as Ukranians and Russians continue dialogues.to a cease fire.
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Peace talks resume in Moscow as the Kremlin point is that us attack systems should not be staged in Ukraine and that it remain neutral to NATO alliance.
Talks continue in Istanbul turkey tomorrow as Ukranians and Russians continue dialogues.to a cease fire.
Face-to-face peace talks between Ukraine and Russia are likely to start in Turkey on Tuesday. As negotiators arrived in Istanbul for their first face-to-face peace talks in more than two weeks, both sides played down the chances of a major breakthrough and a senior US official said Vladimir Putin did not appear ready to compromise. Ukrainian forces have seized back full control of the town of Irpin, a few miles from Kyiv, the local mayor said. Mayor Oleksandr Markushyn said Irpin had been “liberated” and that Russian soldiers were “offering to surrender”. The United States cannot confirm who is in control of the city of Irpin, a senior US defence official said.
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Face-to-face peace talks between Ukraine and Russia are likely to start in Turkey on Tuesday. As negotiators arrived in Istanbul for their first face-to-face peace talks in more than two weeks, both sides played down the chances of a major breakthrough and a senior US official said Vladimir Putin did not appear ready to compromise. Ukrainian forces have seized back full control of the town of Irpin, a few miles from Kyiv, the local mayor said. Mayor Oleksandr Markushyn said Irpin had been “liberated” and that Russian soldiers were “offering to surrender”. The United States cannot confirm who is in control of the city of Irpin, a senior US defence official said.
Zelensky has refused to sit down with Russia's negotiators if they seek to solely discuss the "denazification" of Ukraine. Does Ukraine wish to keep their nazi's?
Russian propaganda has falsely painted Ukraine as fascist since 2014. There are no nazi dictatorship to remove and no genocide of Russians in Ukraine. Extreme right wing nationalists comprise a fringe (2%) minority. Zelensky is jewish and won over 70% of votes in fair election. According to Jewish journal, over 100 university scholars of history signed a letter disputing Putin claims. In measure of democracy, Freedom house rates Ukraine 61%, Russia 19% and US 83%. Apparently, Putin is more scared of democracy than Nazis because Russians might demand democracy too.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Zelensky has refused to sit down with Russia's negotiators if they seek to solely discuss the "denazification" of Ukraine. Does Ukraine wish to keep their nazi's?
Russian propaganda has falsely painted Ukraine as fascist since 2014. There are no nazi dictatorship to remove and no genocide of Russians in Ukraine. Extreme right wing nationalists comprise a fringe (2%) minority. Zelensky is jewish and won over 70% of votes in fair election. According to Jewish journal, over 100 university scholars of history signed a letter disputing Putin claims. In measure of democracy, Freedom house rates Ukraine 61%, Russia 19% and US 83%. Apparently, Putin is more scared of democracy than Nazis because Russians might demand democracy too.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Zelensky has refused to sit down with Russia's negotiators if they seek to solely discuss the "denazification" of Ukraine. Does Ukraine wish to keep their nazi's? Russian propaganda has falsely painted Ukraine as fascist since 2014. There are no nazi dictatorship to remove and no genocide of Russians in Ukraine. Extreme right wing nationalists comprise a fringe (2%) minority. Zelensky is jewish and won over 70% of votes in fair election. According to Jewish journal, over 100 university scholars of history signed a letter disputing Putin claims. In measure of democracy, Freedom house rates Ukraine 61%, Russia 19% and US 83%. Apparently, Putin is more scared of democracy than Nazis because Russians might demand democracy too.
For the most part I agree although I do not believe Putin called Ukraine fascist since 2014, maybe more recently. Certainly Putin exaggerated his cause and the Ukraine government not nazi. But tolerant of nazis???? Hmmm. Genocide on Russians not proven.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Zelensky has refused to sit down with Russia's negotiators if they seek to solely discuss the "denazification" of Ukraine. Does Ukraine wish to keep their nazi's? Russian propaganda has falsely painted Ukraine as fascist since 2014. There are no nazi dictatorship to remove and no genocide of Russians in Ukraine. Extreme right wing nationalists comprise a fringe (2%) minority. Zelensky is jewish and won over 70% of votes in fair election. According to Jewish journal, over 100 university scholars of history signed a letter disputing Putin claims. In measure of democracy, Freedom house rates Ukraine 61%, Russia 19% and US 83%. Apparently, Putin is more scared of democracy than Nazis because Russians might demand democracy too.
For the most part I agree although I do not believe Putin called Ukraine fascist since 2014, maybe more recently. Certainly Putin exaggerated his cause and the Ukraine government not nazi. But tolerant of nazis???? Hmmm. Genocide on Russians not proven.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Zelensky has refused to sit down with Russia's negotiators if they seek to solely discuss the "denazification" of Ukraine. Does Ukraine wish to keep their nazi's? Russian propaganda has falsely painted Ukraine as fascist since 2014. There are no nazi dictatorship to remove and no genocide of Russians in Ukraine. Extreme right wing nationalists comprise a fringe (2%) minority. Zelensky is jewish and won over 70% of votes in fair election. According to Jewish journal, over 100 university scholars of history signed a letter disputing Putin claims. In measure of democracy, Freedom house rates Ukraine 61%, Russia 19% and US 83%. Apparently, Putin is more scared of democracy than Nazis because Russians might demand democracy too.
I don't know about fascists but they are 99%white....
Although Russians could be considered white.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Zelensky has refused to sit down with Russia's negotiators if they seek to solely discuss the "denazification" of Ukraine. Does Ukraine wish to keep their nazi's? Russian propaganda has falsely painted Ukraine as fascist since 2014. There are no nazi dictatorship to remove and no genocide of Russians in Ukraine. Extreme right wing nationalists comprise a fringe (2%) minority. Zelensky is jewish and won over 70% of votes in fair election. According to Jewish journal, over 100 university scholars of history signed a letter disputing Putin claims. In measure of democracy, Freedom house rates Ukraine 61%, Russia 19% and US 83%. Apparently, Putin is more scared of democracy than Nazis because Russians might demand democracy too.
I don't know about fascists but they are 99%white....
Russian propaganda has falsely painted Ukraine as fascist since 2014. There are no nazi dictatorship to remove and no genocide of Russians in Ukraine. Extreme right wing nationalists comprise a fringe (2%) minority. Zelensky is jewish and won over 70% of votes in fair election. According to Jewish journal, over 100 university scholars of history signed a letter disputing Putin claims. In measure of democracy, Freedom house rates Ukraine 61%, Russia 19% and US 83%. Apparently, Putin is more scared of democracy than Nazis because Russians might demand democracy too.
Oh well if Freedom House says something it must be true.
Who runs Freedom House?
Michael Chertoff.
Who is Michael Chertoff?
Bush’s Homeland Security guy and co-author of the Patriot Act.
Republican.
Endorsed Hillary in 2016.
People like Thirdperson talk about Russian propaganda and then quote American propaganda without even knowing it.
The level of knowledge and insight the average American has is disgustingly low.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Russian propaganda has falsely painted Ukraine as fascist since 2014. There are no nazi dictatorship to remove and no genocide of Russians in Ukraine. Extreme right wing nationalists comprise a fringe (2%) minority. Zelensky is jewish and won over 70% of votes in fair election. According to Jewish journal, over 100 university scholars of history signed a letter disputing Putin claims. In measure of democracy, Freedom house rates Ukraine 61%, Russia 19% and US 83%. Apparently, Putin is more scared of democracy than Nazis because Russians might demand democracy too.
Oh well if Freedom House says something it must be true.
Who runs Freedom House?
Michael Chertoff.
Who is Michael Chertoff?
Bush’s Homeland Security guy and co-author of the Patriot Act.
Republican.
Endorsed Hillary in 2016.
People like Thirdperson talk about Russian propaganda and then quote American propaganda without even knowing it.
The level of knowledge and insight the average American has is disgustingly low.
Speaking of nimrods; Prime Minister Boris Johnson said Thursday that the West must end its dependence on Russian fuel or else be subject to Russian President Vladimir Putin's continued whims, as Putin launched a full-scale war on Ukraine. A little late. The West has impowered Putin, the United States joined that club with Biden. Russia and China now dominate the world.
Trump lost the election we are noaligned to Russia china or north korea.
Have you told Europe the USA backs NATO....
Cease fire Russian Ukranians resume in Istanbul turkey.
This war is beyond a special limited operation.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Speaking of nimrods; Prime Minister Boris Johnson said Thursday that the West must end its dependence on Russian fuel or else be subject to Russian President Vladimir Putin's continued whims, as Putin launched a full-scale war on Ukraine. A little late. The West has impowered Putin, the United States joined that club with Biden. Russia and China now dominate the world.
Trump lost the election we are noaligned to Russia china or north korea.
Have you told Europe the USA backs NATO....
Cease fire Russian Ukranians resume in Istanbul turkey.
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