According to the Atlantic article, Ukraine can outlast Russia if NATO continues to supply better weapons. Over time, Russian military seems to weakening while Ukraine is growing stronger. Wars are usually won by the side that is better equipped, trained, motivated and lead.
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According to the Atlantic article, Ukraine can outlast Russia if NATO continues to supply better weapons. Over time, Russian military seems to weakening while Ukraine is growing stronger. Wars are usually won by the side that is better equipped, trained, motivated and lead.
According to the Atlantic article, Ukraine can outlast Russia if NATO continues to supply better weapons. Over time, Russian military seems to weakening while Ukraine is growing stronger. Wars are usually won by the side that is better equipped, trained, motivated and lead.
NATO plus Ukraine will defeat Vladimir Putin. Putin single handed causes tens of thousand innocent people's lives and more injuries, also includes his own people.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
According to the Atlantic article, Ukraine can outlast Russia if NATO continues to supply better weapons. Over time, Russian military seems to weakening while Ukraine is growing stronger. Wars are usually won by the side that is better equipped, trained, motivated and lead.
NATO plus Ukraine will defeat Vladimir Putin. Putin single handed causes tens of thousand innocent people's lives and more injuries, also includes his own people.
Russia posts a $47 billion budget deficit for 2022, its second highest in the post-Soviet era!
THE NY TIMES -
The budget gap reached 2.3 percent of the size of the Russian economy, according to the country’s finance minister.
The posted deficit for 2022 is second only in Russia’s post-Soviet history to the one reported for 2020, the year the coronavirus pandemic unfolded.
A high deficit is likely for this year, too! Russia plans to increase its military spending by a third, and Moscow’s oil revenues are expected to be pressured by the oil price cap, which compels Russian traders to sell crude at a significant discount.
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Russia posts a $47 billion budget deficit for 2022, its second highest in the post-Soviet era!
THE NY TIMES -
The budget gap reached 2.3 percent of the size of the Russian economy, according to the country’s finance minister.
The posted deficit for 2022 is second only in Russia’s post-Soviet history to the one reported for 2020, the year the coronavirus pandemic unfolded.
A high deficit is likely for this year, too! Russia plans to increase its military spending by a third, and Moscow’s oil revenues are expected to be pressured by the oil price cap, which compels Russian traders to sell crude at a significant discount.
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The German government will not object if Poland decides to send Leopard 2 battle tanks to Ukraine, Germany’s top diplomat said Sunday, indicating movement on supplying weapons that Kyiv has described as essential to its ability to fend off an intensified Russian offensive.
German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told French TV channel LCI that Poland has not formally asked for Berlin’s approval to share some of its German-made Leopards but added “if we were asked, we would not stand in the way.”
German officials “know how important these tanks are” and “this is why we are discussing this now with our partners,” Baerbock said in interview clips posted by LCI.
Source Associated press
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KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The German government will not object if Poland decides to send Leopard 2 battle tanks to Ukraine, Germany’s top diplomat said Sunday, indicating movement on supplying weapons that Kyiv has described as essential to its ability to fend off an intensified Russian offensive.
German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told French TV channel LCI that Poland has not formally asked for Berlin’s approval to share some of its German-made Leopards but added “if we were asked, we would not stand in the way.”
German officials “know how important these tanks are” and “this is why we are discussing this now with our partners,” Baerbock said in interview clips posted by LCI.
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The German government will not object if Poland decides to send Leopard 2 battle tanks to Ukraine, Germany’s top diplomat said Sunday, indicating movement on supplying weapons that Kyiv has described as essential to its ability to fend off an intensified Russian offensive. German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told French TV channel LCI that Poland has not formally asked for Berlin’s approval to share some of its German-made Leopards but added “if we were asked, we would not stand in the way.” German officials “know how important these tanks are” and “this is why we are discussing this now with our partners,” Baerbock said in interview clips posted by LCI. Source Associated press
I saw that too nature1970, but now apparently Poland has the green light but is saying they only will do so if others join them doing the same
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The German government will not object if Poland decides to send Leopard 2 battle tanks to Ukraine, Germany’s top diplomat said Sunday, indicating movement on supplying weapons that Kyiv has described as essential to its ability to fend off an intensified Russian offensive. German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told French TV channel LCI that Poland has not formally asked for Berlin’s approval to share some of its German-made Leopards but added “if we were asked, we would not stand in the way.” German officials “know how important these tanks are” and “this is why we are discussing this now with our partners,” Baerbock said in interview clips posted by LCI. Source Associated press
I saw that too nature1970, but now apparently Poland has the green light but is saying they only will do so if others join them doing the same
It's symbolism. It's been 70 years since German cat tanks rolled into Ukraine... It's not that not needed it's that they are GERMAN.... This would give Putin credit to say that they are fascist. Look at the the German tanks... This war is as much political and propaganda as it is tanks bombs guns planes missiles.... Putin credit invaded Ukraine to stop fascist state...
Ah yes.....it might then give the Russians a propaganda tool to "justify" their invasion, alleging the Ukrainian "fascists" are being aided by the "German fascists"....
Meanwhile,
Ukraine 'will pay' if Germany sends it tanks, ...Russia warns
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
It's symbolism. It's been 70 years since German cat tanks rolled into Ukraine... It's not that not needed it's that they are GERMAN.... This would give Putin credit to say that they are fascist. Look at the the German tanks... This war is as much political and propaganda as it is tanks bombs guns planes missiles.... Putin credit invaded Ukraine to stop fascist state...
Ah yes.....it might then give the Russians a propaganda tool to "justify" their invasion, alleging the Ukrainian "fascists" are being aided by the "German fascists"....
Meanwhile,
Ukraine 'will pay' if Germany sends it tanks, ...Russia warns
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The German government will not object if Poland decides to send Leopard 2 battle tanks to Ukraine, Germany’s top diplomat said Sunday, indicating movement on supplying weapons that Kyiv has described as essential to its ability to fend off an intensified Russian offensive. German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told French TV channel LCI that Poland has not formally asked for Berlin’s approval to share some of its German-made Leopards but added “if we were asked, we would not stand in the way.” German officials “know how important these tanks are” and “this is why we are discussing this now with our partners,” Baerbock said in interview clips posted by LCI. Source Associated press
good news
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The German government will not object if Poland decides to send Leopard 2 battle tanks to Ukraine, Germany’s top diplomat said Sunday, indicating movement on supplying weapons that Kyiv has described as essential to its ability to fend off an intensified Russian offensive. German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told French TV channel LCI that Poland has not formally asked for Berlin’s approval to share some of its German-made Leopards but added “if we were asked, we would not stand in the way.” German officials “know how important these tanks are” and “this is why we are discussing this now with our partners,” Baerbock said in interview clips posted by LCI. Source Associated press
Poles have been very supportive to the Ukrainians since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Poles have had the hideous experience from the Soviets, Poles are very knowledgeable of the Russia under Vladimir Putin's dictatorship. Poles would do whatever it takes to fend off possible border with Russia, if Ukraine falls to Vladimir Putin. That's my thoughts.
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Poles have been very supportive to the Ukrainians since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Poles have had the hideous experience from the Soviets, Poles are very knowledgeable of the Russia under Vladimir Putin's dictatorship. Poles would do whatever it takes to fend off possible border with Russia, if Ukraine falls to Vladimir Putin. That's my thoughts.
Yes Germany is expected to officially announce the assistance of Leopard 2 tanks as the U.S. starts delivery of M1 Abrams. Moscow is again threatening to nuke us . Meanwhile 100 Russian soldiers were evaporated during missile strikes in eastern Ukraine.... Russia confirms losses. Germany’s decision is expected to be made official on Wednesday as US appears poised to start process of sending dozens of M1 Abrams tank . Training of 100 Ukrainian soldiers is wrapping up for the patriot missile defense system. Deployment of the system will begin soon. Russia is calling this a blatant disregard for ...blah blah blah....
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
Yes Germany is expected to officially announce the assistance of Leopard 2 tanks as the U.S. starts delivery of M1 Abrams. Moscow is again threatening to nuke us . Meanwhile 100 Russian soldiers were evaporated during missile strikes in eastern Ukraine.... Russia confirms losses. Germany’s decision is expected to be made official on Wednesday as US appears poised to start process of sending dozens of M1 Abrams tank . Training of 100 Ukrainian soldiers is wrapping up for the patriot missile defense system. Deployment of the system will begin soon. Russia is calling this a blatant disregard for ...blah blah blah....
NATO allies begin a hurried dialogue to include missle defense systems tanks and now state of the art fighter jets better Ng included in package to counter Russian escalation to n their sovereign nation.
Russia launched what the head of Ukraine's armed forces called "massive" missile strikes Thursday, as Moscow hurled 55 air and sea-based missiles at targets including the capital Kyiv.
The attacks come after the U.S. and Germany's momentous decision Wednesday to send battle tanks to Ukraine. Now, talk has turned to the possible supply of other firepower, namely fighter jets
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NATO allies begin a hurried dialogue to include missle defense systems tanks and now state of the art fighter jets better Ng included in package to counter Russian escalation to n their sovereign nation.
Russia launched what the head of Ukraine's armed forces called "massive" missile strikes Thursday, as Moscow hurled 55 air and sea-based missiles at targets including the capital Kyiv.
The attacks come after the U.S. and Germany's momentous decision Wednesday to send battle tanks to Ukraine. Now, talk has turned to the possible supply of other firepower, namely fighter jets
NATO allies begin a hurried dialogue to include missle defense systems tanks and now state of the art fighter jets better Ng included in package to counter Russian escalation to n their sovereign nation. Russia launched what the head of Ukraine's armed forces called "massive" missile strikes Thursday, as Moscow hurled 55 air and sea-based missiles at targets including the capital Kyiv. The attacks come after the U.S. and Germany's momentous decision Wednesday to send battle tanks to Ukraine. Now, talk has turned to the possible supply of other firepower, namely fighter jets
and next step troops right?
Freedom road was a one-way street
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
NATO allies begin a hurried dialogue to include missle defense systems tanks and now state of the art fighter jets better Ng included in package to counter Russian escalation to n their sovereign nation. Russia launched what the head of Ukraine's armed forces called "massive" missile strikes Thursday, as Moscow hurled 55 air and sea-based missiles at targets including the capital Kyiv. The attacks come after the U.S. and Germany's momentous decision Wednesday to send battle tanks to Ukraine. Now, talk has turned to the possible supply of other firepower, namely fighter jets
Yes we are training ukrabians to operate commander (uk cloaked tanks) patriot anti missile systems.
German Leopard tank untita (German) and m2 Abrams with extra armoured auxiliary package.
However it will take to march before the units are operational with both manned crews and maintenance crews fully trained with system.
The missle defense system took down 47 of the 55 missiles Russia launched the next phase should bring the number to plus or minus one with similar system deployment to hit...
Jets are a 5 months project in a retraining to the cloaked systems in mirage or f35 fighter jet systems.....
All systems will engage the enemy of Ukraine by July but the roll out has yet to be determined.
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Yes we are training ukrabians to operate commander (uk cloaked tanks) patriot anti missile systems.
German Leopard tank untita (German) and m2 Abrams with extra armoured auxiliary package.
However it will take to march before the units are operational with both manned crews and maintenance crews fully trained with system.
The missle defense system took down 47 of the 55 missiles Russia launched the next phase should bring the number to plus or minus one with similar system deployment to hit...
Jets are a 5 months project in a retraining to the cloaked systems in mirage or f35 fighter jet systems.....
All systems will engage the enemy of Ukraine by July but the roll out has yet to be determined.
NATO allies begin a hurried dialogue to include missle defense systems tanks and now state of the art fighter jets better Ng included in package to counter Russian escalation to n their sovereign nation. Russia launched what the head of Ukraine's armed forces called "massive" missile strikes Thursday, as Moscow hurled 55 air and sea-based missiles at targets including the capital Kyiv. The attacks come after the U.S. and Germany's momentous decision Wednesday to send battle tanks to Ukraine. Now, talk has turned to the possible supply of other firepower, namely fighter jets
The tanks could be very helpful to repel attacks but may arrive to late.
Those air defense systems seem much more urgent and more important to protect cities.
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
NATO allies begin a hurried dialogue to include missle defense systems tanks and now state of the art fighter jets better Ng included in package to counter Russian escalation to n their sovereign nation. Russia launched what the head of Ukraine's armed forces called "massive" missile strikes Thursday, as Moscow hurled 55 air and sea-based missiles at targets including the capital Kyiv. The attacks come after the U.S. and Germany's momentous decision Wednesday to send battle tanks to Ukraine. Now, talk has turned to the possible supply of other firepower, namely fighter jets
The tanks could be very helpful to repel attacks but may arrive to late.
Those air defense systems seem much more urgent and more important to protect cities.
Jets are a 5 months project in a retraining to the cloaked systems in mirage or f35 fighter jet systems..... All systems will engage the enemy of Ukraine by July but the roll out has yet to be determined.
I am not in favor of fighter jets. Too many things could go wrong like straying into Russian or Bellarussian air space which would give Putin the excuse he needs for large scale city bombing and using tactical nuclear weapons.
I am in favor of missle defenses though! The more the better!
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
Jets are a 5 months project in a retraining to the cloaked systems in mirage or f35 fighter jet systems..... All systems will engage the enemy of Ukraine by July but the roll out has yet to be determined.
I am not in favor of fighter jets. Too many things could go wrong like straying into Russian or Bellarussian air space which would give Putin the excuse he needs for large scale city bombing and using tactical nuclear weapons.
I am in favor of missle defenses though! The more the better!
Like I said originally..... why the hell would Russia blow up their own pipeline??? Out of all the possible explanations, this one made the least sense. The truth rises eventually....excellent read for those interested in truths and reality.
Like I said originally..... why the hell would Russia blow up their own pipeline??? Out of all the possible explanations, this one made the least sense. The truth rises eventually....excellent read for those interested in truths and reality.
Last June, the Navy divers, operating under the cover of a widely publicized mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that, three months later, destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.
From the reporter who won the Pulitzer for uncovering the My Lai Massacre in Vietnam, broke stories on Watergate and Abu Ghraib:
Thank you America
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How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now
Last June, the Navy divers, operating under the cover of a widely publicized mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that, three months later, destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.
From the reporter who won the Pulitzer for uncovering the My Lai Massacre in Vietnam, broke stories on Watergate and Abu Ghraib:
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