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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2017 - 9:22 AM ET #26

    After applying to your johnson, your "injection" should go rather smoothly............

    Sorry!

    I thought the topic was Vaseline.................this is different
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    After applying to your johnson, your "injection" should go rather smoothly............

    Sorry!

    I thought the topic was Vaseline.................this is different
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 6:44 PM ET #27

    They say you are the funniest guy on covers hawk. Anyway. The link below is an article about a Michigan Mom facing jail if she does not inject Big Pharm poison into her child. Head shaker.


    https://www.infowars.com/michigan-mom-faces-jail-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-child/

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    They say you are the funniest guy on covers hawk. Anyway. The link below is an article about a Michigan Mom facing jail if she does not inject Big Pharm poison into her child. Head shaker.


    https://www.infowars.com/michigan-mom-faces-jail-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-child/

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2017 - 6:23 PM ET #28

    According to Pew poll,  10% minority of Americans believe that risks of vaccination outweigh benefits.  All medicines have side effects.  However vaccination is among the safest and generally benefits outweigh risks according to many sources such as National institute of health, Kaiser and New England journal of medicine.
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    According to Pew poll,  10% minority of Americans believe that risks of vaccination outweigh benefits.  All medicines have side effects.  However vaccination is among the safest and generally benefits outweigh risks according to many sources such as National institute of health, Kaiser and New England journal of medicine.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2017 - 7:47 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    They say you are the funniest guy on covers hawk. Anyway. The link below is an article about a Michigan Mom facing jail if she does not inject Big Pharm poison into her child. Head shaker.


    https://www.infowars.com/michigan-mom-faces-jail-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-child/


    Ah, but the question is: Do you agree with them?


    The article about the Mom writes its own punchline. If she goes to jail, how is she supposed to take care of her son? What a dolt
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    They say you are the funniest guy on covers hawk. Anyway. The link below is an article about a Michigan Mom facing jail if she does not inject Big Pharm poison into her child. Head shaker.


    https://www.infowars.com/michigan-mom-faces-jail-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-child/


    Ah, but the question is: Do you agree with them?


    The article about the Mom writes its own punchline. If she goes to jail, how is she supposed to take care of her son? What a dolt
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2017 - 9:52 PM ET #30

    Tough spot for the Mom.The father is a jerk.
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 1:07 AM ET #31

    Thimerosal is a funny topic. Blamed for most of vaccines injury patterns it has been largely removed from almost all vaccines given today. I know of no vaccines that still contain it although I am sure there are a few.  The thimerosal autism link has never been proven and even the most ardent supporters and the initial person who theorized the link have since changed their tune.

    The flu vaccine has failed in many scientific studies to prove effectiveness over placebo. The problem with the flu vaccine is the flu virus is constantly changing and morphing. There is no prediction of which form of flu will be around this year. The idea to catch one of the thousands of different strains each year with a vaccine that contains 5 strains or so is simple folly. 


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    Thimerosal is a funny topic. Blamed for most of vaccines injury patterns it has been largely removed from almost all vaccines given today. I know of no vaccines that still contain it although I am sure there are a few.  The thimerosal autism link has never been proven and even the most ardent supporters and the initial person who theorized the link have since changed their tune.

    The flu vaccine has failed in many scientific studies to prove effectiveness over placebo. The problem with the flu vaccine is the flu virus is constantly changing and morphing. There is no prediction of which form of flu will be around this year. The idea to catch one of the thousands of different strains each year with a vaccine that contains 5 strains or so is simple folly. 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 1:13 AM ET #32

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22032844/


    Note that since the initial Lancet article came out questioning the effectiveness of the flu vaccine in the elderly (2007) There have been many articles proclaiming that it is effective. Meanwhile, the makers of the flu vaccines  have doubled the dose of the antigen for those over 65, knowing it probably does not do shitt for this category of people.


    My office gives out 500 vaccines a year at a profit of 15K, just some food for thought.


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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22032844/


    Note that since the initial Lancet article came out questioning the effectiveness of the flu vaccine in the elderly (2007) There have been many articles proclaiming that it is effective. Meanwhile, the makers of the flu vaccines  have doubled the dose of the antigen for those over 65, knowing it probably does not do shitt for this category of people.


    My office gives out 500 vaccines a year at a profit of 15K, just some food for thought.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 11:53 AM ET #33

    Any bad outcomes crash?
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 1:39 PM ET #34

    Mom has been ordered to jail after refusing to have her son vaccinated. Medical tyranny is upon us. The following is from Drudge.

    https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2017/10/04/mom-goes-to-jail-after-refusing-to-vaccinate/

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    Mom has been ordered to jail after refusing to have her son vaccinated. Medical tyranny is upon us. The following is from Drudge.

    https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2017/10/04/mom-goes-to-jail-after-refusing-to-vaccinate/

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 12:12 PM ET #35

    The link below is another well written article about the Mom jailed for not vaccinating her son. Please disbar the judge who ruled in this case.

    https://www.infowars.com/its-begun-mother-jailed-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-son/

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    The link below is another well written article about the Mom jailed for not vaccinating her son. Please disbar the judge who ruled in this case.

    https://www.infowars.com/its-begun-mother-jailed-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-son/

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2017 - 4:16 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22032844/


    Note that since the initial Lancet article came out questioning the effectiveness of the flu vaccine in the elderly (2007) There have been many articles proclaiming that it is effective. Meanwhile, the makers of the flu vaccines  have doubled the dose of the antigen for those over 65, knowing it probably does not do shitt for this category of people.


    My office gives out 500 vaccines a year at a profit of 15K, just some food for thought.



    thank you Good dr. for at least bringing this back this thread to reality.... the over vaccinations of the masses resulted by the profit margins by big pharma.... as I understand the intent of this post I am sure big pharma stock holder hatch will chime in

    but as Ken stated your option is valued in which you represent the MD here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22032844/


    Note that since the initial Lancet article came out questioning the effectiveness of the flu vaccine in the elderly (2007) There have been many articles proclaiming that it is effective. Meanwhile, the makers of the flu vaccines  have doubled the dose of the antigen for those over 65, knowing it probably does not do shitt for this category of people.


    My office gives out 500 vaccines a year at a profit of 15K, just some food for thought.



    thank you Good dr. for at least bringing this back this thread to reality.... the over vaccinations of the masses resulted by the profit margins by big pharma.... as I understand the intent of this post I am sure big pharma stock holder hatch will chime in

    but as Ken stated your option is valued in which you represent the MD here.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2017 - 3:06 PM ET #37

    Headline is from Mike Adams of Natural News.

    New York Times just confirmed NN reporting on mumps outbreaks

    The New York Times has just confirmed that most mumps outbreaks are occurring among vaccinated children.

    We've been reporting that for over a decade, and today the NYT published a story that blows mumps vaccine quackery wide open.

    Find the full, astonishing story right here.

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    Headline is from Mike Adams of Natural News.

    New York Times just confirmed NN reporting on mumps outbreaks

    The New York Times has just confirmed that most mumps outbreaks are occurring among vaccinated children.

    We've been reporting that for over a decade, and today the NYT published a story that blows mumps vaccine quackery wide open.

    Find the full, astonishing story right here.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2017 - 4:37 PM ET #38

    From Mike Adams of Natural News.

    BOMBSHELL science paper documents the depopulation chemical covertly spiked into vaccines

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-11-10-bombshell-science-paper-documents-the-depopulation-chemical-covertly-spiked-into-vaccines.html#

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    From Mike Adams of Natural News.

    BOMBSHELL science paper documents the depopulation chemical covertly spiked into vaccines

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-11-10-bombshell-science-paper-documents-the-depopulation-chemical-covertly-spiked-into-vaccines.html#

     
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    According to wikipedia, natural news is a controversial website that spreads irresponsible health claims and conspiracy theories.  For example, discredited link to autism from vaccines.  Quack Mike Adams has been accused of pseudoscience to sell lies.
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    According to wikipedia, natural news is a controversial website that spreads irresponsible health claims and conspiracy theories.  For example, discredited link to autism from vaccines.  Quack Mike Adams has been accused of pseudoscience to sell lies.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2021 - 11:29 AM ET #40

    Bad news regarding the coronavirus vaccine in Norway. 2  nursing home  residents die after taking the 1st dose. Why would anybody take this vaccine when the survivability rate is at least  99.5%. The supposed success rate of the shot is 95%. Crazy imo.

    Norwegian Nursing Home Patients Dead After Receiving First Dose of COVID Vaccine (infowars.com)

     

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    Bad news regarding the coronavirus vaccine in Norway. 2  nursing home  residents die after taking the 1st dose. Why would anybody take this vaccine when the survivability rate is at least  99.5%. The supposed success rate of the shot is 95%. Crazy imo.

    Norwegian Nursing Home Patients Dead After Receiving First Dose of COVID Vaccine (infowars.com)

     

     
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     Just because it's unlikely that you'll die doesn't mean people would be willing to get sick. Especially when considering the possible lifelong complications. That's why you take the vaccine.

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     Just because it's unlikely that you'll die doesn't mean people would be willing to get sick. Especially when considering the possible lifelong complications. That's why you take the vaccine.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Bad news regarding the coronavirus vaccine in Norway. 2  nursing home  residents die after taking the 1st dose. Why would anybody take this vaccine when the survivability rate is at least  99.5%. The supposed success rate of the shot is 95%. Crazy imo. Norwegian Nursing Home Patients Dead After Receiving First Dose of COVID Vaccine (infowars.com)

    Infowars is untrustworthy and promotes conspiracy theories unsupported by evidence.  Misleading to blame vaccination because other causes of death are more probable.  Association isn't causation.  Besides, deaths among senior residents are common in nursing homes.  Fact is they are more likely to die without vaccination.  Vaccines save many lives but anti-vax movement is dangerous.

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    Bad news regarding the coronavirus vaccine in Norway. 2  nursing home  residents die after taking the 1st dose. Why would anybody take this vaccine when the survivability rate is at least  99.5%. The supposed success rate of the shot is 95%. Crazy imo. Norwegian Nursing Home Patients Dead After Receiving First Dose of COVID Vaccine (infowars.com)

    Infowars is untrustworthy and promotes conspiracy theories unsupported by evidence.  Misleading to blame vaccination because other causes of death are more probable.  Association isn't causation.  Besides, deaths among senior residents are common in nursing homes.  Fact is they are more likely to die without vaccination.  Vaccines save many lives but anti-vax movement is dangerous.

     
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    So I’m supposed to get a vaccine for a “virus” that has a survival rate of 99% and still have to wear a mask after I get the shot? Gtfoh! I have an immune system, I’ll take my chances. 

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    So I’m supposed to get a vaccine for a “virus” that has a survival rate of 99% and still have to wear a mask after I get the shot? Gtfoh! I have an immune system, I’ll take my chances. 

     
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    Doctor Fauci says a 1% mortality rate means coronavirus is 10 times more deadly than the flu.  If spread unchecked to 330 million Americans, millions would die.  Even with restrictions such as lockdowns, over 300,000 covid deaths in the US.  Vaccines would substantially reduce virus spread and save lives.  Since vaccination of population takes months, people still need to continue social distancing and mask wearing.  Historically, current pandemic is recognized as among the worst in decades.

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    Doctor Fauci says a 1% mortality rate means coronavirus is 10 times more deadly than the flu.  If spread unchecked to 330 million Americans, millions would die.  Even with restrictions such as lockdowns, over 300,000 covid deaths in the US.  Vaccines would substantially reduce virus spread and save lives.  Since vaccination of population takes months, people still need to continue social distancing and mask wearing.  Historically, current pandemic is recognized as among the worst in decades.

     
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     I don’t believe Fauci. 

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     I don’t believe Fauci. 

     
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    As a person who, admittedly but not ashamedly, lacks "formal" education, I would like to submit the following.

    A vaccine introduces to the constitution a trace element of the target strain intended to be combated.

    As we all know, the immune system hence builds up a tolerance thereby strengthening the organism to the debilitating effects of the noxious agent.

    But are we to accept the introduction of covid--albeit I suppose a minimal amount--to our physical systems in the hope of quote "building up the immune system?"

    I have some friends who say (as the Italians would say) fugettaboutit.

    A recent flu shot left me feeling "a little under the weather" the next day, but its effects attenuated shortly thereafter.

    My guess is that half the population will accept this "shaky" premise and delve in whereas the other half will reject it.

    Are we nearing a "1984" world where the freedom to choose on such a matter will be stripped from us; under the false premise of science and "the benefit of humanity?"

    Will any recalcitrants be imprisoned or  be labeled a "Trump Supporter" or the general denigrating term a "racist."

    Perhaps, as the  saying from an old radio show from a more innocent time might convey: "Only the shadow knows."

     

     

     

     

     

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    As a person who, admittedly but not ashamedly, lacks "formal" education, I would like to submit the following.

    A vaccine introduces to the constitution a trace element of the target strain intended to be combated.

    As we all know, the immune system hence builds up a tolerance thereby strengthening the organism to the debilitating effects of the noxious agent.

    But are we to accept the introduction of covid--albeit I suppose a minimal amount--to our physical systems in the hope of quote "building up the immune system?"

    I have some friends who say (as the Italians would say) fugettaboutit.

    A recent flu shot left me feeling "a little under the weather" the next day, but its effects attenuated shortly thereafter.

    My guess is that half the population will accept this "shaky" premise and delve in whereas the other half will reject it.

    Are we nearing a "1984" world where the freedom to choose on such a matter will be stripped from us; under the false premise of science and "the benefit of humanity?"

    Will any recalcitrants be imprisoned or  be labeled a "Trump Supporter" or the general denigrating term a "racist."

    Perhaps, as the  saying from an old radio show from a more innocent time might convey: "Only the shadow knows."

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    8 myths of covid vaccines according to public health experts.  1 Rushed vaccines may still be unsafe.  2 You can get coronavirus from vaccines.  3 Vaccines change your DNA.  4 Vaccines cause infertility.  5 You don't need vaccines if you already had coronavirus.  6  Once vaccinated, you no longer spread the virus.  7 Severe reactions to vaccines are common.  8 You should wait until you can choose the vaccine you like.

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    8 myths of covid vaccines according to public health experts.  1 Rushed vaccines may still be unsafe.  2 You can get coronavirus from vaccines.  3 Vaccines change your DNA.  4 Vaccines cause infertility.  5 You don't need vaccines if you already had coronavirus.  6  Once vaccinated, you no longer spread the virus.  7 Severe reactions to vaccines are common.  8 You should wait until you can choose the vaccine you like.

     
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     There are vaccines that trigger the bodies defense without actually introducing the virus. I believe both the pfizer and moderna vaccines fall into this category.

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     There are vaccines that trigger the bodies defense without actually introducing the virus. I believe both the pfizer and moderna vaccines fall into this category.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @MickSpeed17  There are vaccines that trigger the bodies defense without actually introducing the virus. I believe both the pfizer and moderna vaccines fall into this category.

    Excellent

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    @MickSpeed17  There are vaccines that trigger the bodies defense without actually introducing the virus. I believe both the pfizer and moderna vaccines fall into this category.

    Excellent

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    They say you are the funniest guy on covers hawk. Anyway. The link below is an article about a Michigan Mom facing jail if she does not inject Big Pharm poison into her child. Head shaker.https://www.infowars.com/michigan-mom-faces-jail-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-child/

    5 died in Norway maine from "side " effects of pfizer vaccine. They were in the same nursing home facility. 

    Gross incompetence in administering the vaccine after it was too warm for too long.  Who gives a shat. They in nursing home anyway.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    They say you are the funniest guy on covers hawk. Anyway. The link below is an article about a Michigan Mom facing jail if she does not inject Big Pharm poison into her child. Head shaker.https://www.infowars.com/michigan-mom-faces-jail-for-refusing-to-vaccinate-child/

    5 died in Norway maine from "side " effects of pfizer vaccine. They were in the same nursing home facility. 

    Gross incompetence in administering the vaccine after it was too warm for too long.  Who gives a shat. They in nursing home anyway.

     

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