Obamacare is not why healthcare is too expensive or why it has outpaced general inflation for a VERY long time.
B,b,b,bu,bu, but,but... Its Obamas fault
You cant take away the only strategy right winger wackos have
epic failure in strategy... This one term president/worst president ever completely failed and basically put obama right back into the white house... great job getting him re-elected as the Spin, lies and fabrication stopped realistic scrutiny of his record that would have held him accountable...
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Obamacare is not why healthcare is too expensive or why it has outpaced general inflation for a VERY long time.
B,b,b,bu,bu, but,but... Its Obamas fault
You cant take away the only strategy right winger wackos have
epic failure in strategy... This one term president/worst president ever completely failed and basically put obama right back into the white house... great job getting him re-elected as the Spin, lies and fabrication stopped realistic scrutiny of his record that would have held him accountable...
If you ever decide to run for office you will make a first rate politician.
I agree... Washington is full of partisan lemmings...
And considering how you have been able to completely own and frustrate the partisan lemming wackos like kroger, 14, espalande and the rest of the "cut/paste rhetoric union"with their fantasy land talking points, I think you have what it might take to clean up washington...
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Quote Originally Posted by Randisist:
Ktrain,
If you ever decide to run for office you will make a first rate politician.
I agree... Washington is full of partisan lemmings...
And considering how you have been able to completely own and frustrate the partisan lemming wackos like kroger, 14, espalande and the rest of the "cut/paste rhetoric union"with their fantasy land talking points, I think you have what it might take to clean up washington...
The only real way to make ground on health care costs are to severely limit lawsuits on Doctors and give them extensive, but limited, tax breaks to treat uninsured patients.
Canada and other countries limit lawsuits against doctors. They reduce costs in other ways too. Governments dictate how much medical pros can earn. Funding cuts to force hospitals to become more cost efficient. One insurer instead of many insurance companies reduce administration. Bulk buying of drugs and more generic drug prescriptions.
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
The only real way to make ground on health care costs are to severely limit lawsuits on Doctors and give them extensive, but limited, tax breaks to treat uninsured patients.
Canada and other countries limit lawsuits against doctors. They reduce costs in other ways too. Governments dictate how much medical pros can earn. Funding cuts to force hospitals to become more cost efficient. One insurer instead of many insurance companies reduce administration. Bulk buying of drugs and more generic drug prescriptions.
So let me get this straight....Employees that previously didn't have health care would now be obliged to be provided health care. However, since the employer doesn't want to take on the added costs of providing any type of health care for his employees, is now cutting their hours to avoid providing basic health care for the employees he supposedly cares so much about? Am I understanding that correctly?
Does the right understand why they lost the election? It's pretty much spelled out in this story. One owner, probably a Romney voter, doesn't want to provide health care for his employees, probably Obama voters.
Can't understand why Romney lost the election
I guess some of you believe being a French Fry operator is a good position and should pay benefits.
If you don't like the benefits... or lack of them, get a better job. It's called upward mobility. You shouldn't be content working at Wendy's and should want to better yourself for the future.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
So let me get this straight....Employees that previously didn't have health care would now be obliged to be provided health care. However, since the employer doesn't want to take on the added costs of providing any type of health care for his employees, is now cutting their hours to avoid providing basic health care for the employees he supposedly cares so much about? Am I understanding that correctly?
Does the right understand why they lost the election? It's pretty much spelled out in this story. One owner, probably a Romney voter, doesn't want to provide health care for his employees, probably Obama voters.
Can't understand why Romney lost the election
I guess some of you believe being a French Fry operator is a good position and should pay benefits.
If you don't like the benefits... or lack of them, get a better job. It's called upward mobility. You shouldn't be content working at Wendy's and should want to better yourself for the future.
Within reason as pertaining to not destroying the environment/earth, not treating their employees live slave laborers, etc.
I am all for business owners making as much money as possible but not if it begins to destroy mother nature TOO MUCH or treats employees like dirt TOO MUCH.
Like I said, make as much money as possible but when that gap between rich and poor becomes to great and the middle class disappears bad things are going to happen.
Don't worry.. O'bama is doing his best to even things out by taking from the Rich to help the Poor.
Wealth re-Distribution is alive and well, and is this President's primary goal in almost every decision.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
Within reason as pertaining to not destroying the environment/earth, not treating their employees live slave laborers, etc.
I am all for business owners making as much money as possible but not if it begins to destroy mother nature TOO MUCH or treats employees like dirt TOO MUCH.
Like I said, make as much money as possible but when that gap between rich and poor becomes to great and the middle class disappears bad things are going to happen.
Don't worry.. O'bama is doing his best to even things out by taking from the Rich to help the Poor.
Wealth re-Distribution is alive and well, and is this President's primary goal in almost every decision.
I guess some of you believe being a French Fry operator is a good position and should pay benefits.
If you don't like the benefits... or lack of them, get a better job. It's called upward mobility. You shouldn't be content working at Wendy's and should want to better yourself for the future.
True. Plus any smart, self-respecting person would not work for some small-minded, greasy restaraunt operator who cuts backs the hours of his underpaid employees just to make a stupid and futile political point. Use the extra hours to find a new job or go to school and retrain.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:
I guess some of you believe being a French Fry operator is a good position and should pay benefits.
If you don't like the benefits... or lack of them, get a better job. It's called upward mobility. You shouldn't be content working at Wendy's and should want to better yourself for the future.
True. Plus any smart, self-respecting person would not work for some small-minded, greasy restaraunt operator who cuts backs the hours of his underpaid employees just to make a stupid and futile political point. Use the extra hours to find a new job or go to school and retrain.
To Community College of Allegheny County's president, Alex Johnson, cutting hours for some 400 temporary part-time workers to avoid providing health insurance coverage for them under the impending Affordable Health Care Act is purely a cost-saving
https://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/health-care-law-brings-double-dose-of-trouble-for-ccac-part-time-profs-662697/?print=1measure at a time the college faces a funding reduction.
But hey, you think its a load of crap, and shouting "what a load of crap" is some sort of argument.
So there is that.
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Offering benefits to employees does not mean they have to shoulder the cost.
employers shoulder the majority of the burden for healthcare benefits.
Nobody with a modicum of knowledge on the topic would dispute that.
Oh, and Wendy's isn't the only company doing this.
To Community College of Allegheny County's president, Alex Johnson, cutting hours for some 400 temporary part-time workers to avoid providing health insurance coverage for them under the impending Affordable Health Care Act is purely a cost-saving
https://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/health-care-law-brings-double-dose-of-trouble-for-ccac-part-time-profs-662697/?print=1measure at a time the college faces a funding reduction.
But hey, you think its a load of crap, and shouting "what a load of crap" is some sort of argument.
In an e-mail to employees, AARP says health care premiums will increase by 8 percent to 13 percent next year because of rapidly rising medical costs.
And AARP adds that it's changing copayments and deductibles to avoid a 40 percent tax on high-cost health plans that takes effect in 2018 under the law. Aerospace giant Boeing also has cited the tax in asking its workers to pay more. Shifting costs to employees lowers the value of a health care plan and acts like an escape hatch from the tax.
"Most plan co-pays and deductibles have been modified," Jennifer Hodges, AARP's director of compensation and benefits, wrote employees in an Oct. 25 e-mail. "Plan value changes were necessary not only from a cost management standpoint but also to ensure that AARP's plans fall below the threshold for high-cost group plans under health care reform."
Now if only those dummies running the benefits for those organizations knew the costs of ObamaCare, they'd probably change their tune.
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In an e-mail to employees, AARP says health care premiums will increase by 8 percent to 13 percent next year because of rapidly rising medical costs.
And AARP adds that it's changing copayments and deductibles to avoid a 40 percent tax on high-cost health plans that takes effect in 2018 under the law. Aerospace giant Boeing also has cited the tax in asking its workers to pay more. Shifting costs to employees lowers the value of a health care plan and acts like an escape hatch from the tax.
"Most plan co-pays and deductibles have been modified," Jennifer Hodges, AARP's director of compensation and benefits, wrote employees in an Oct. 25 e-mail. "Plan value changes were necessary not only from a cost management standpoint but also to ensure that AARP's plans fall below the threshold for high-cost group plans under health care reform."
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