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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 6:49 AM ET #51

    What is driving Colorado’s COVID surge? Not even the experts are sure.

    https://coloradosun.com/2021/11/05/coronavirus-case-surge-hospitalizations-why/

    It’s amazing what happens when you don't have a GOP gov to blame for the surge in Delta cases.

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    What is driving Colorado’s COVID surge? Not even the experts are sure.

    https://coloradosun.com/2021/11/05/coronavirus-case-surge-hospitalizations-why/

    It’s amazing what happens when you don't have a GOP gov to blame for the surge in Delta cases.

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 9:25 AM ET #52

    [Quote: Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox]Sweden halts use of Moderna's COVID vaccine in under 30s It said the pause should initially be in force until December 1, explaining that it had received evidence of an increased risk of side effects such as inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis) and inflammation of the pericardium (pericarditis).

    Precautions are standard practices for vaccines.  To ensure safety and time for investigation,  vaccination is temporarily paused even for minor side effects that rarely occur.  Usually vaccination resumes after short pause.  More proof that vaccines are safe because they are constantly monitored worldwide.  Risks of inflammation is higher from covid infection than from vaccine.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox]Sweden halts use of Moderna's COVID vaccine in under 30s It said the pause should initially be in force until December 1, explaining that it had received evidence of an increased risk of side effects such as inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis) and inflammation of the pericardium (pericarditis).

    Precautions are standard practices for vaccines.  To ensure safety and time for investigation,  vaccination is temporarily paused even for minor side effects that rarely occur.  Usually vaccination resumes after short pause.  More proof that vaccines are safe because they are constantly monitored worldwide.  Risks of inflammation is higher from covid infection than from vaccine.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 10:24 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Sweden halts use of Moderna's COVID vaccine in under 30s It said the pause should initially be in force until December 1, explaining that it had received evidence of an increased risk of side effects such as inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis) and inflammation of the pericardium (pericarditis). Precautions are standard practices for vaccines.  To ensure safety and time for investigation,  vaccination is temporarily paused even for minor side effects that rarely occur.  Usually vaccination resumes after short pause.  More proof that vaccines are safe because they are constantly monitored worldwide.  Risks of inflammation is higher from covid infection than from vaccine.

     

    I would only believe this if hospitals actually marked people with adverse side effects correctly after getting the vaccine. But since they REFUSE to mark and track adverse side effects due to a high likelihood from the vaccine and report to the public, your statements are not valid. THERE IS A REASON WHY THEY SHUT IT DOWN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Sweden halts use of Moderna's COVID vaccine in under 30s It said the pause should initially be in force until December 1, explaining that it had received evidence of an increased risk of side effects such as inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis) and inflammation of the pericardium (pericarditis). Precautions are standard practices for vaccines.  To ensure safety and time for investigation,  vaccination is temporarily paused even for minor side effects that rarely occur.  Usually vaccination resumes after short pause.  More proof that vaccines are safe because they are constantly monitored worldwide.  Risks of inflammation is higher from covid infection than from vaccine.

     

    I would only believe this if hospitals actually marked people with adverse side effects correctly after getting the vaccine. But since they REFUSE to mark and track adverse side effects due to a high likelihood from the vaccine and report to the public, your statements are not valid. THERE IS A REASON WHY THEY SHUT IT DOWN.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 10:28 AM ET #54

    “Risk of inflammation is higher from Covid infection than from vaccine.” 

    Ok, but you’re not guaranteed to get the infection. 

    The sentence is misleading. 


    The correct comparison would be … 

     

    A — If a person does not get the vaccine, what is the risk of inflammation? 

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    B — If a person does get the vaccine, what is the risk of inflammation? 

    I’d bet B is higher than A. 

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    “Risk of inflammation is higher from Covid infection than from vaccine.” 

    Ok, but you’re not guaranteed to get the infection. 

    The sentence is misleading. 


    The correct comparison would be … 

     

    A — If a person does not get the vaccine, what is the risk of inflammation? 

    vs 

    B — If a person does get the vaccine, what is the risk of inflammation? 

    I’d bet B is higher than A. 

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2021 - 10:34 AM ET #55

    Let’s say we’re testing airbags in cars. 

    The airbags are found to deploy without an accident and hurt people unnecessarily. 

     

    Let’s say 1 in 1000 get in car accidents that need airbags. 


    “You should overlook the airbag problem because if you’re in a bad car accident you will be safer.” 

    This would obviously be a terrible take. 

    This is what thirdperson is regurgitating and he lacks the mental capacity to understand why it’s a horrific take. 

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    Let’s say we’re testing airbags in cars. 

    The airbags are found to deploy without an accident and hurt people unnecessarily. 

     

    Let’s say 1 in 1000 get in car accidents that need airbags. 


    “You should overlook the airbag problem because if you’re in a bad car accident you will be safer.” 

    This would obviously be a terrible take. 

    This is what thirdperson is regurgitating and he lacks the mental capacity to understand why it’s a horrific take. 

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2021 - 10:07 AM ET #56

    In response to attorney’s FOIA request, US CDC admits that it has no record of an unvaccinated person spreading COVID after recovering from COVID.

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    In response to attorney’s FOIA request, US CDC admits that it has no record of an unvaccinated person spreading COVID after recovering from COVID.

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2021 - 3:58 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Sweden halts use of Moderna's COVID vaccine in under 30s It said the pause should initially be in force until December 1, explaining that it had received evidence of an increased risk of side effects such as inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis) and inflammation of the pericardium (pericarditis). Precautions are standard practices for vaccines.  To ensure safety and time for investigation,  vaccination is temporarily paused even for minor side effects that rarely occur.  Usually vaccination resumes after short pause.  More proof that vaccines are safe because they are constantly monitored worldwide.  Risks of inflammation is higher from covid infection than from vaccine.   I would only believe this if hospitals actually marked people with adverse side effects correctly after getting the vaccine. But since they REFUSE to mark and track adverse side effects due to a high likelihood from the vaccine and report to the public, your statements are not valid. THERE IS A REASON WHY THEY SHUT IT DOWN. “Risk of inflammation is higher from Covid infection than from vaccine.”  Ok, but you’re not guaranteed to get the infection.  The sentence is misleading.  The correct comparison would be …    A — If a person does not get the vaccine, what is the risk of inflammation?  vs  B — If a person does get the vaccine, what is the risk of inflammation?  I’d bet B is higher than A.  Let’s say we’re testing airbags in cars.  The airbags are found to deploy without an accident and hurt people unnecessarily.    Let’s say 1 in 1000 get in car accidents that need airbags.  “You should overlook the airbag problem because if you’re in a bad car accident you will be safer.”  This would obviously be a terrible take.  This is what thirdperson is regurgitating and he lacks the mental capacity to understand why it’s a horrific take.   In response to attorney’s FOIA request, US CDC admits that it has no record of an unvaccinated person spreading COVID after recovering from COVID.

     

    If Mr. Lincoln never went to the theatre,he never would have been shot by Mr. Boothe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Sweden halts use of Moderna's COVID vaccine in under 30s It said the pause should initially be in force until December 1, explaining that it had received evidence of an increased risk of side effects such as inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis) and inflammation of the pericardium (pericarditis). Precautions are standard practices for vaccines.  To ensure safety and time for investigation,  vaccination is temporarily paused even for minor side effects that rarely occur.  Usually vaccination resumes after short pause.  More proof that vaccines are safe because they are constantly monitored worldwide.  Risks of inflammation is higher from covid infection than from vaccine.   I would only believe this if hospitals actually marked people with adverse side effects correctly after getting the vaccine. But since they REFUSE to mark and track adverse side effects due to a high likelihood from the vaccine and report to the public, your statements are not valid. THERE IS A REASON WHY THEY SHUT IT DOWN. “Risk of inflammation is higher from Covid infection than from vaccine.”  Ok, but you’re not guaranteed to get the infection.  The sentence is misleading.  The correct comparison would be …    A — If a person does not get the vaccine, what is the risk of inflammation?  vs  B — If a person does get the vaccine, what is the risk of inflammation?  I’d bet B is higher than A.  Let’s say we’re testing airbags in cars.  The airbags are found to deploy without an accident and hurt people unnecessarily.    Let’s say 1 in 1000 get in car accidents that need airbags.  “You should overlook the airbag problem because if you’re in a bad car accident you will be safer.”  This would obviously be a terrible take.  This is what thirdperson is regurgitating and he lacks the mental capacity to understand why it’s a horrific take.   In response to attorney’s FOIA request, US CDC admits that it has no record of an unvaccinated person spreading COVID after recovering from COVID.

     

    If Mr. Lincoln never went to the theatre,he never would have been shot by Mr. Boothe.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2021 - 9:54 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Labor department expects legal challenges but is in a strong position.    Occupational safety health administration has legal authority to protect workers from health hazards.  Coronavirus has caused over 700,000 deaths in the US.  This is a public health crisis and not a freedom issue.  Constitution doesn't allow freedom to harm others in a pandemic.  US has a long history of success with vaccine mandates.  Due to testing option, OHSA mandate is more limited than state and local mandates.   Public health experts consider mandates vital to increasing vaccination rates to control the pandemic.  Polls show majority of Americans support vaccine mandates.  Most legal experts expect mandates would eventually be upheld by courts.

    A three-judge appellate panel of the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday unanimously enjoined enforcement of Biden's OSHA mandate for employers to require employees to be vaccinated, on the ground Biden's mandate is likely illegal/unconstitutional.

    https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/21/21-60845-CV0.pdf

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Labor department expects legal challenges but is in a strong position.    Occupational safety health administration has legal authority to protect workers from health hazards.  Coronavirus has caused over 700,000 deaths in the US.  This is a public health crisis and not a freedom issue.  Constitution doesn't allow freedom to harm others in a pandemic.  US has a long history of success with vaccine mandates.  Due to testing option, OHSA mandate is more limited than state and local mandates.   Public health experts consider mandates vital to increasing vaccination rates to control the pandemic.  Polls show majority of Americans support vaccine mandates.  Most legal experts expect mandates would eventually be upheld by courts.

    A three-judge appellate panel of the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday unanimously enjoined enforcement of Biden's OSHA mandate for employers to require employees to be vaccinated, on the ground Biden's mandate is likely illegal/unconstitutional.

    https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/21/21-60845-CV0.pdf

     

     
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    Breaking: Israeli Ministry of Health announced today that it will soon approve the 4th vaccine shot.

    It will mean that all those with 3 shots who don't get the 4th shot will have their Covid passes revoked (as happened to those with 2 shots).

    Today from Deputy-Director of largest hospital in Israel who is also member of Ministry of Health committee for approving vaccines:

    "Those who think we won't need to take more boosters are wrong. We will need to take the 4th shot, the 5th shot, the 6th shot, and the 7th shot."

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    Breaking: Israeli Ministry of Health announced today that it will soon approve the 4th vaccine shot.

    It will mean that all those with 3 shots who don't get the 4th shot will have their Covid passes revoked (as happened to those with 2 shots).

    Today from Deputy-Director of largest hospital in Israel who is also member of Ministry of Health committee for approving vaccines:

    "Those who think we won't need to take more boosters are wrong. We will need to take the 4th shot, the 5th shot, the 6th shot, and the 7th shot."

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2021 - 1:48 PM ET #60

    NYC expands vaccine mandate to all private-sector workers, ups required proof to 2 doses and kids ages 5 to 11 must show it, too, when indoor dining or at entertainment venues

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    NYC expands vaccine mandate to all private-sector workers, ups required proof to 2 doses and kids ages 5 to 11 must show it, too, when indoor dining or at entertainment venues

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2021 - 2:06 PM ET #61

    ."NYC expands vaccine mandate to all private-sector workers, ups required proof to 2 doses and kids ages 5 to 11 must show it, too, when indoor dining or at entertainment venues[/Quote]

     

    Continue with the mass exodus. Good bye tax revenue. Hello Florida.

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    ."NYC expands vaccine mandate to all private-sector workers, ups required proof to 2 doses and kids ages 5 to 11 must show it, too, when indoor dining or at entertainment venues[/Quote]

     

    Continue with the mass exodus. Good bye tax revenue. Hello Florida.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2021 - 12:35 AM ET #62

    New York chamber of commerce supports the new vaccine mandate.  Vast majority of New Yorkers are already vaccinated.    After months of voluntary vaccination, mandates are necessary to further increase vaccination to save lives worldwide.  Polls found that some  people would only accept a vaccine if required by law or employer.  Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of the pandemic.  Next year, vaccination is expected to continue increasing in many countries.  So anti-vax movement is really on the wrong side of history.  Currently, almost half of the US has various vaccine mandates issued by either federal, state, municipal or private sector.  Biden's limited mandate for employers could potentially prevent 6500 deaths and 250,000 hospitalizations in 6 months.

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    New York chamber of commerce supports the new vaccine mandate.  Vast majority of New Yorkers are already vaccinated.    After months of voluntary vaccination, mandates are necessary to further increase vaccination to save lives worldwide.  Polls found that some  people would only accept a vaccine if required by law or employer.  Public health experts consider vaccines the only way out of the pandemic.  Next year, vaccination is expected to continue increasing in many countries.  So anti-vax movement is really on the wrong side of history.  Currently, almost half of the US has various vaccine mandates issued by either federal, state, municipal or private sector.  Biden's limited mandate for employers could potentially prevent 6500 deaths and 250,000 hospitalizations in 6 months.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2021 - 12:31 PM ET #63

    BioNTech CEO: Potentially upcoming vaccine for the Omicron variant "should be a 3-dose vaccine."

    For those vaccinated: 2 + booster. Then, 3 more doses for Omicron, if needed, pending further analysis.

     

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    BioNTech CEO: Potentially upcoming vaccine for the Omicron variant "should be a 3-dose vaccine."

    For those vaccinated: 2 + booster. Then, 3 more doses for Omicron, if needed, pending further analysis.

     

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    WHO's Tedros proclaims: The Omicron variant could have a "major impact on the course of the pandemic."

    WHO's Mike Ryan claims Omicron is a "new dimension" and requires a "new level" of response.

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    WHO's Tedros proclaims: The Omicron variant could have a "major impact on the course of the pandemic."

    WHO's Mike Ryan claims Omicron is a "new dimension" and requires a "new level" of response.

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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 6:28 AM ET #65

    How many shots are people ok with?  

    3, 5, 10, 20? 

    As many as they’re told to? 

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    How many shots are people ok with?  

    3, 5, 10, 20? 

    As many as they’re told to? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Can anybody imagine the following. The survivability rate of covid without the vaccine is 99.7 or so per cent. People double timed it to the nearest pharmacy to inject poison with a supposed 95% success rate! Now those same people are consciously making a decision to inject more poison using the booster! Insane! The death rate in the US is going to explode because of ADE (anti body dependency enhancement) caused by the vaccine. The out of control impending death rate will not be blamed on the vaccine. It will be blamed on the unvaccinated. In case nobody on the Left inside this forum has not figured it out. The vaccine is the weapon!

    They are complete delusional tools. They will never figure anything out that hasn't already been figured for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Can anybody imagine the following. The survivability rate of covid without the vaccine is 99.7 or so per cent. People double timed it to the nearest pharmacy to inject poison with a supposed 95% success rate! Now those same people are consciously making a decision to inject more poison using the booster! Insane! The death rate in the US is going to explode because of ADE (anti body dependency enhancement) caused by the vaccine. The out of control impending death rate will not be blamed on the vaccine. It will be blamed on the unvaccinated. In case nobody on the Left inside this forum has not figured it out. The vaccine is the weapon!

    They are complete delusional tools. They will never figure anything out that hasn't already been figured for them.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Side topic, I've always wondered why Fupa would chose a screen name labeled after a female body part

    This 'guy' is completely off his rails. He's demented over Trump. Can't even get to his own life, his whole life is Anti-trump. LOFL

    Completely deranged and FULL of propaganda.

    I love every minute of his dementia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Side topic, I've always wondered why Fupa would chose a screen name labeled after a female body part

    This 'guy' is completely off his rails. He's demented over Trump. Can't even get to his own life, his whole life is Anti-trump. LOFL

    Completely deranged and FULL of propaganda.

    I love every minute of his dementia.

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     According to Center for disease control, no evidence that covid vaccines are deadlier than the disease.  Autopsies repeatedly reveal deaths after vaccination are caused by pre-existing conditions or chronic diseases.  Unvaccinated people are 11 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people.  Infection and hospitalization rates are also lower for the vaccinated.  The number of people vaccinated is far greater than the number of covid cases.  If vaccines are more dangerous, why hasn't the number of vaccine deaths reported far exceed the number of covid deaths in the world?

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     According to Center for disease control, no evidence that covid vaccines are deadlier than the disease.  Autopsies repeatedly reveal deaths after vaccination are caused by pre-existing conditions or chronic diseases.  Unvaccinated people are 11 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people.  Infection and hospitalization rates are also lower for the vaccinated.  The number of people vaccinated is far greater than the number of covid cases.  If vaccines are more dangerous, why hasn't the number of vaccine deaths reported far exceed the number of covid deaths in the world?

     
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    199,000,000 Americans are fully vaccinated. 

    More people are going to die in 2021 from Covid than died in 2020. 

    That doesn’t raise any concern for you?

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    199,000,000 Americans are fully vaccinated. 

    More people are going to die in 2021 from Covid than died in 2020. 

    That doesn’t raise any concern for you?

     
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    Why isn’t this talked about with more openness? 

    1.a. For individuals aged 12 to 29 years receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine primary series:
    ? The use of Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty (30 mcg dose) is preferred to Moderna Spikevax (100 mcg dose) to start or continue the mRNA primary vaccine series.
    ? The second dose of mRNA vaccine should be provided 8 weeks after the first dose as a longer interval between doses is associated with higher vaccine
    effectiveness and potentially lower risk of myocarditis/pericarditis.
    1.b. For individuals aged 18 to 29 years who are eligible to receive a booster dose of vaccine*:
    ? The use of Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty booster dose (30 mcg dose) may be preferred to Moderna Spikevax booster dose (50 mcg dose).
    ? The booster dose should be provided at least six months after completing the primary vaccine series.

     

    https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/phac-aspc/documents/services/immunization/national-advisory-committee-on-immunization-naci/rapid-response-recommendation-use-covid-19-vaccines-individuals-aged-12-years-older-myocarditis-pericarditis-reported-following-mrna-vaccines/rapid-response-recommendation-use-covid-19-vaccines-individuals-aged-12-years-older-myocarditis-pericarditis-reported-following-mrna-vaccines.pdf

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    Why isn’t this talked about with more openness? 

    1.a. For individuals aged 12 to 29 years receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine primary series:
    ? The use of Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty (30 mcg dose) is preferred to Moderna Spikevax (100 mcg dose) to start or continue the mRNA primary vaccine series.
    ? The second dose of mRNA vaccine should be provided 8 weeks after the first dose as a longer interval between doses is associated with higher vaccine
    effectiveness and potentially lower risk of myocarditis/pericarditis.
    1.b. For individuals aged 18 to 29 years who are eligible to receive a booster dose of vaccine*:
    ? The use of Pfizer-BioNTech Comirnaty booster dose (30 mcg dose) may be preferred to Moderna Spikevax booster dose (50 mcg dose).
    ? The booster dose should be provided at least six months after completing the primary vaccine series.

     

    https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/phac-aspc/documents/services/immunization/national-advisory-committee-on-immunization-naci/rapid-response-recommendation-use-covid-19-vaccines-individuals-aged-12-years-older-myocarditis-pericarditis-reported-following-mrna-vaccines/rapid-response-recommendation-use-covid-19-vaccines-individuals-aged-12-years-older-myocarditis-pericarditis-reported-following-mrna-vaccines.pdf

     
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    JUST IN - New York Gov. Hochul imposes a statewide indoor mask mandate. Up to $1,000 fine for each violation.

    Remember when they said "2 shots, no mask any more"?

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    JUST IN - New York Gov. Hochul imposes a statewide indoor mask mandate. Up to $1,000 fine for each violation.

    Remember when they said "2 shots, no mask any more"?

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    If you haven’t gone down the rabbit hole of Fauci and how he mishandled AIDS, do that before it’s all scrubbed.

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    If you haven’t gone down the rabbit hole of Fauci and how he mishandled AIDS, do that before it’s all scrubbed.

     
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    NIH Tested AIDS Drugs on Foster Children


    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4669470

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    NIH Tested AIDS Drugs on Foster Children


    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4669470

     
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    Johnson: "Fauci did the exact same thing with AIDS. He overhyped it. He created all kinds of fear, saying it could affect the entire population, when it couldn't. And he's doing -- he's using the exact same playbook for COVID."

    At that point, the anchor is supposed to say something like, "Dr. Fauci?" and let him respond. But CNN apparently thinks Fauci is too delicate a flower to answer an attack all by his lonesome.

    So, before turning it over to the interviewee, Tapper blathered: "Obviously, that's a bizarre and false assertion. President George W. Bush gave you the Presidential Medal of Freedom because of your leadership in the AIDS crisis. But I did want to give you an opportunity to respond." (I guess this is how you apply for Chris Cuomo's job at CNN.)

    At that point, Fauci merely had to join Tapper in sneering at the senator: "Jake, how do you respond to something as preposterous as that?"

    Thank you, Dr. Fauci for that penetrating response. Next up on CNN ...

    Actually, Fauci then went on to use the Hillary Benghazi defense: HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME WHEN PEOPLE DIED!!!

    He said: "Overhyping AIDS? It's killed over 750,000 Americans and 36 million people worldwide. How do you overhype that? Overhyping COVID? It's already killed 780,000 Americans and over 5 million people worldwide. So, I don't have any clue of what he's talking about."

    That would have been a fantastic answer if Sen. Johnson had questioned whether anyone had ever died from AIDS or COVID. Unfortunately, he didn't do that. Rather, he accused Fauci of overhyping the risk of COVID, terrifying everyone -- as he did with AIDS -- instead of concentrating protections on high-risk groups.

    Overhyping car accidents? Cars have killed over 3.6 million Americans and multiple millions of people worldwide. How do you overhype that?

    Yes, but you recommended that people drive blindfolded.

    Long after it was clear that COVID was dangerous nearly exclusively for older people and the obese, Fauci lied, just as he once lied about AIDS being a risk for heterosexuals long after it became clear that it was almost entirely a problem for gay men and intravenous drug users.

    Instead of devoting massive resources to shutting down bathhouses and shooting galleries to stop the spread of AIDS, and blanketing older Americans with protections in the case of COVID, Fauci repeatedly claimed that everyone was at risk.

     

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    Johnson: "Fauci did the exact same thing with AIDS. He overhyped it. He created all kinds of fear, saying it could affect the entire population, when it couldn't. And he's doing -- he's using the exact same playbook for COVID."

    At that point, the anchor is supposed to say something like, "Dr. Fauci?" and let him respond. But CNN apparently thinks Fauci is too delicate a flower to answer an attack all by his lonesome.

    So, before turning it over to the interviewee, Tapper blathered: "Obviously, that's a bizarre and false assertion. President George W. Bush gave you the Presidential Medal of Freedom because of your leadership in the AIDS crisis. But I did want to give you an opportunity to respond." (I guess this is how you apply for Chris Cuomo's job at CNN.)

    At that point, Fauci merely had to join Tapper in sneering at the senator: "Jake, how do you respond to something as preposterous as that?"

    Thank you, Dr. Fauci for that penetrating response. Next up on CNN ...

    Actually, Fauci then went on to use the Hillary Benghazi defense: HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME WHEN PEOPLE DIED!!!

    He said: "Overhyping AIDS? It's killed over 750,000 Americans and 36 million people worldwide. How do you overhype that? Overhyping COVID? It's already killed 780,000 Americans and over 5 million people worldwide. So, I don't have any clue of what he's talking about."

    That would have been a fantastic answer if Sen. Johnson had questioned whether anyone had ever died from AIDS or COVID. Unfortunately, he didn't do that. Rather, he accused Fauci of overhyping the risk of COVID, terrifying everyone -- as he did with AIDS -- instead of concentrating protections on high-risk groups.

    Overhyping car accidents? Cars have killed over 3.6 million Americans and multiple millions of people worldwide. How do you overhype that?

    Yes, but you recommended that people drive blindfolded.

    Long after it was clear that COVID was dangerous nearly exclusively for older people and the obese, Fauci lied, just as he once lied about AIDS being a risk for heterosexuals long after it became clear that it was almost entirely a problem for gay men and intravenous drug users.

    Instead of devoting massive resources to shutting down bathhouses and shooting galleries to stop the spread of AIDS, and blanketing older Americans with protections in the case of COVID, Fauci repeatedly claimed that everyone was at risk.

     

     
     
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    This isn't a matter of It's a new virus! No one knew anything! I knew the high-risk groups back in March 2020. (bit.ly/3oBu8Et)

    It seems that Fauci believes in "science" -- except when he needs to terrify heterosexuals in the cause of destigmatizing gays, or frighten the entire population so as not to stigmatize the elderly and obese.

    AIDS first appeared in 1981 in gay communities in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Two years later, 72% of cases involved gay men, and 90% of the non-homosexual AIDS victims were intravenous drug users. Most of the rest were children born to AIDS-infected mothers or victims of AIDS-tainted blood transfusions.

    This wasn't a big secret. According to CDC, by June 1983, out of 1,552 AIDS victims, only 37 were not gay men, drug users, hemophiliacs or Haitians. Frontline doctors actually dealing with AIDS patients were assuring the public, "The average person has nothing to be concerned about," as a New York cardiologist told The Associated Press. (Then, as now, you can trust your doctor; you can't trust "public health authorities.")

    But Fauci was out there, alarming the entire population about the odds of contracting AIDS. In April 1983, he said: "As the months go by, we see more and more groups ... AIDS is creeping out of well-defined epidemiological confines."

    A month later, he wrote: "The finding of AIDS in infants and children who are household contacts of patients with AIDS ... has enormous implications with regard to ultimate transmissibility of this syndrome." (This was based on a study of eight infants in Newark, New Jersey -- who may or may not have had AIDS, in households with people who also may or may not have had AIDS. So it was a solid study.)

     

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    This isn't a matter of It's a new virus! No one knew anything! I knew the high-risk groups back in March 2020. (bit.ly/3oBu8Et)

    It seems that Fauci believes in "science" -- except when he needs to terrify heterosexuals in the cause of destigmatizing gays, or frighten the entire population so as not to stigmatize the elderly and obese.

    AIDS first appeared in 1981 in gay communities in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Two years later, 72% of cases involved gay men, and 90% of the non-homosexual AIDS victims were intravenous drug users. Most of the rest were children born to AIDS-infected mothers or victims of AIDS-tainted blood transfusions.

    This wasn't a big secret. According to CDC, by June 1983, out of 1,552 AIDS victims, only 37 were not gay men, drug users, hemophiliacs or Haitians. Frontline doctors actually dealing with AIDS patients were assuring the public, "The average person has nothing to be concerned about," as a New York cardiologist told The Associated Press. (Then, as now, you can trust your doctor; you can't trust "public health authorities.")

    But Fauci was out there, alarming the entire population about the odds of contracting AIDS. In April 1983, he said: "As the months go by, we see more and more groups ... AIDS is creeping out of well-defined epidemiological confines."

    A month later, he wrote: "The finding of AIDS in infants and children who are household contacts of patients with AIDS ... has enormous implications with regard to ultimate transmissibility of this syndrome." (This was based on a study of eight infants in Newark, New Jersey -- who may or may not have had AIDS, in households with people who also may or may not have had AIDS. So it was a solid study.)

     

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