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    What did Fauci say about the vaccine?

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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2021 - 11:32 AM ET #1

    “The vaccine is extremely effective. 94-95% for mild to moderate disease. And virtually 100% effective against death” 

    “No hospitalizations and no deaths.” 

    “The real world effectiveness is even more impressive than the results of the clinical trial.” — Fauci at Senate Covid Hearing 

    Then they weren’t so effective. Studies started showing under 50% effective rate after 14-21 days. 

    Health ministry says vaccine is 40% effective at halting transmission 

    Then it drops to 20% effective after 6 months 

    “Stunning study shows how ineffective Pfizer vaccine really is”

    Then they completely shifted their original selling point (95% effective) and started pushing the booster 

    Pfizer posts $5,000,000,000 profit in 1q as vaccine strategy pays off 

     

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    “The vaccine is extremely effective. 94-95% for mild to moderate disease. And virtually 100% effective against death” 

    “No hospitalizations and no deaths.” 

    “The real world effectiveness is even more impressive than the results of the clinical trial.” — Fauci at Senate Covid Hearing 

    Then they weren’t so effective. Studies started showing under 50% effective rate after 14-21 days. 

    Health ministry says vaccine is 40% effective at halting transmission 

    Then it drops to 20% effective after 6 months 

    “Stunning study shows how ineffective Pfizer vaccine really is”

    Then they completely shifted their original selling point (95% effective) and started pushing the booster 

    Pfizer posts $5,000,000,000 profit in 1q as vaccine strategy pays off 

     

    Any questions? 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2021 - 11:42 AM ET #2

    This is from the CDC website for Chattahoochee County, Georgia 

    % eligible population fully vaccinated — 99.9% 

    Community transmission rating — HIGH 

    *Everyone should wear a mask in public, indoor settings 

     

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations-county-view%7CAdministered_Dose1_Pop_Pct

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    This is from the CDC website for Chattahoochee County, Georgia 

    % eligible population fully vaccinated — 99.9% 

    Community transmission rating — HIGH 

    *Everyone should wear a mask in public, indoor settings 

     

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations-county-view%7CAdministered_Dose1_Pop_Pct

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2021 - 11:50 AM ET #3

    Whistleblower: FDA and CDC Ignore Damning Report that over 90% of a Hospital’s Admissions were Vaccinated for Covid-19 and No One Was Reporting This to VAERS

    A concerned Physician Assistant, Deborah Conrad, convinced her hospital to carefully track the Covid-19 vaccination status of every patient admitted to her hospital.  The result is shocking. 

    As Ms. Conrad has detailed, her hospital serves a community in which less than 50% of the individuals were vaccinated for Covid-19 but yet, during the same time period, approximately 90% of the individuals admitted to her hospital were documented to have received this vaccine. 

    These patients were admitted for a variety of reasons, including but not limited to COVID-19 infections.  Even more troubling is that there were many individuals who were young, many who presented with unusual or unexpected health events, and many who were admitted months after vaccination. 

    https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/whistleblower-fda-and-cdc-ignore-3e2

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    Whistleblower: FDA and CDC Ignore Damning Report that over 90% of a Hospital’s Admissions were Vaccinated for Covid-19 and No One Was Reporting This to VAERS

    A concerned Physician Assistant, Deborah Conrad, convinced her hospital to carefully track the Covid-19 vaccination status of every patient admitted to her hospital.  The result is shocking. 

    As Ms. Conrad has detailed, her hospital serves a community in which less than 50% of the individuals were vaccinated for Covid-19 but yet, during the same time period, approximately 90% of the individuals admitted to her hospital were documented to have received this vaccine. 

    These patients were admitted for a variety of reasons, including but not limited to COVID-19 infections.  Even more troubling is that there were many individuals who were young, many who presented with unusual or unexpected health events, and many who were admitted months after vaccination. 

    https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/whistleblower-fda-and-cdc-ignore-3e2

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    Can anybody imagine the following. The survivability rate of covid without the vaccine is 99.7 or so per cent. People double timed it to the nearest pharmacy to inject poison with a supposed 95% success rate! Now those same people are consciously making a decision to inject more poison using the booster! Insane!

    The death rate in the US is going to explode because of ADE (anti body dependency enhancement) caused by the vaccine. The out of control impending death rate will not be blamed on the vaccine. It will be blamed on the unvaccinated. In case nobody on the Left inside this forum has not figured it out. The vaccine is the weapon!

     

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    Can anybody imagine the following. The survivability rate of covid without the vaccine is 99.7 or so per cent. People double timed it to the nearest pharmacy to inject poison with a supposed 95% success rate! Now those same people are consciously making a decision to inject more poison using the booster! Insane!

    The death rate in the US is going to explode because of ADE (anti body dependency enhancement) caused by the vaccine. The out of control impending death rate will not be blamed on the vaccine. It will be blamed on the unvaccinated. In case nobody on the Left inside this forum has not figured it out. The vaccine is the weapon!

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2021 - 1:33 PM ET #5

    Why are people still listening to Fauci after he’s flip flopped so much? 

    First he said masks didn’t help, they hurt. Then he said everyone needs to wear at least 1 mask, preferably 2. 

    Then he said the vaccine was 95-100% effective. Now they’re only effective for a short period of time and we must get a booster. 

    Doesn’t make any sense. 

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    Why are people still listening to Fauci after he’s flip flopped so much? 

    First he said masks didn’t help, they hurt. Then he said everyone needs to wear at least 1 mask, preferably 2. 

    Then he said the vaccine was 95-100% effective. Now they’re only effective for a short period of time and we must get a booster. 

    Doesn’t make any sense. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why are people still listening to Fauci after he’s flip flopped so much?  First he said masks didn’t help, they hurt. Then he said everyone needs to wear at least 1 mask, preferably 2.  Then he said the vaccine was 95-100% effective. Now they’re only effective for a short period of time and we must get a booster.  Doesn’t make any sense.

    Gotta pump those stocks and get rid of supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Why are people still listening to Fauci after he’s flip flopped so much?  First he said masks didn’t help, they hurt. Then he said everyone needs to wear at least 1 mask, preferably 2.  Then he said the vaccine was 95-100% effective. Now they’re only effective for a short period of time and we must get a booster.  Doesn’t make any sense.

    Gotta pump those stocks and get rid of supply.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2021 - 7:40 PM ET #7

    It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" but for me the way they rushed the trials and how one trial a "vac" looked doomed then the next its all worked out, I dont buy that and I do not accept any data coming from a position of support for that data. So the government has bias towards forcing people to get the vacc so you think that all data coming from the government is going to support this position?

    Then there is whatever long term issues that come from this therapy, we have no idea what that is and by the time we have an idea it will be an oopsie sorry we didnt know and all these pharmas signed docs which bail them out of any obligation or responsibility.

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    It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" but for me the way they rushed the trials and how one trial a "vac" looked doomed then the next its all worked out, I dont buy that and I do not accept any data coming from a position of support for that data. So the government has bias towards forcing people to get the vacc so you think that all data coming from the government is going to support this position?

    Then there is whatever long term issues that come from this therapy, we have no idea what that is and by the time we have an idea it will be an oopsie sorry we didnt know and all these pharmas signed docs which bail them out of any obligation or responsibility.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" .

    History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" .

    History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2021 - 6:45 AM ET #10

    Why did the ‘expert’ say 

    “The vaccine is extremely effective. 94-95% for mild to moderate disease. And virtually 100% effective against death” 

    “No hospitalizations and no deaths from Covid if you get the vaccine”

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    Why did the ‘expert’ say 

    “The vaccine is extremely effective. 94-95% for mild to moderate disease. And virtually 100% effective against death” 

    “No hospitalizations and no deaths from Covid if you get the vaccine”

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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2021 - 6:46 AM ET #11

    What makes you think WallStreet is brainwashed? 

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    What makes you think WallStreet is brainwashed? 

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    Last year we feared football at the college level could not be played. Players will die!!! Well we did play. Many, many players contracted COVID, so did older coaches and they didn't die. Most spent 10-14 days in quarantine and were back on the field. 

    Those same players are now required at most Universities to be vaccinated. The danger from COVID for these healthy young people is next to nothing. 

    The theme from our government health care was get the vaccine to protect yourself and those vulnerable people you may come in contact with. To not get the vaccine would be selfish, unpatriotic, and your putting others at risk. 

    In May the Delta virus was first detected in Texas. Data streaming in from Europe showed this strain was breaking through the vaccinated. The UK reported 40% of hospitalizations were the vaccinated in mid July. The small country of Iceland kept excellent public records showing the vaccinated breakthroughs. (https://www.covid.is/data look at this chart;Number of vaccinated individuals among domestic infections ) Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries sounded the alarm in July that Delta was a big problem for their vaccinated. 

    In the United States the overwhelming data that Delta was breaking through was completely ignored and there was even a push against it. In July the President publicly stated on July 21st "Get vaccinated you won't get COVID." The President's press secretary held up charts showing Ohio and Colorado deaths since January 1st were 99% unvaccinated. The common theme was "pandemic of the unvaccinated". (We will force them with shame to get vaccinated) With overwhelming evidence that things were changing fast, many vaccinated were vulnerable to Delta, they continued with that "original game plan".

    As we all know the vaccination process was just getting started in January. Over 210,000 COVID deaths were recorded in the first three months of this year, almost all unvaccinated because they didn't have access to it yet. That is why you see so many claims "Since January 1st......". It purposely skews the numbers. Delta really got it's start here in June.

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    Last year we feared football at the college level could not be played. Players will die!!! Well we did play. Many, many players contracted COVID, so did older coaches and they didn't die. Most spent 10-14 days in quarantine and were back on the field. 

    Those same players are now required at most Universities to be vaccinated. The danger from COVID for these healthy young people is next to nothing. 

    The theme from our government health care was get the vaccine to protect yourself and those vulnerable people you may come in contact with. To not get the vaccine would be selfish, unpatriotic, and your putting others at risk. 

    In May the Delta virus was first detected in Texas. Data streaming in from Europe showed this strain was breaking through the vaccinated. The UK reported 40% of hospitalizations were the vaccinated in mid July. The small country of Iceland kept excellent public records showing the vaccinated breakthroughs. (https://www.covid.is/data look at this chart;Number of vaccinated individuals among domestic infections ) Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries sounded the alarm in July that Delta was a big problem for their vaccinated. 

    In the United States the overwhelming data that Delta was breaking through was completely ignored and there was even a push against it. In July the President publicly stated on July 21st "Get vaccinated you won't get COVID." The President's press secretary held up charts showing Ohio and Colorado deaths since January 1st were 99% unvaccinated. The common theme was "pandemic of the unvaccinated". (We will force them with shame to get vaccinated) With overwhelming evidence that things were changing fast, many vaccinated were vulnerable to Delta, they continued with that "original game plan".

    As we all know the vaccination process was just getting started in January. Over 210,000 COVID deaths were recorded in the first three months of this year, almost all unvaccinated because they didn't have access to it yet. That is why you see so many claims "Since January 1st......". It purposely skews the numbers. Delta really got it's start here in June.

     
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    So then in August our govt. and news media, almost one in the same IMO, had to admit breakthroughs were occurring. So, as an example from the Wall Street Journal, you would read these statements repeated on almost every news wire;

    --"Health departments said that breakthrough cases represented a tiny fraction of Covid-19 infections and resulted in very few hospitalizations or deaths."

    ---“Let’s be real, here: Breakthrough infections are sort of OK,” said Larry Corey, a virologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle. “You get infected and you have a cold, maybe an achy fever for 24 hours. But you don’t end up in the hospital, and you don’t end up with that 2.5% chance of dying once you are hospitalized.” --------It's OK!!!!! No, it's disappointing.

    ---"U.S. states counted at least 193,204 so-called breakthrough cases among vaccinated people between Jan. 1 and early August, according to data that health departments in 44 states and Washington, D.C., provided to the Journal. The figure represents 0.1% of the more than 136 million fully vaccinated people in those states and the capital." -------There's that Jan 1st again, bet that percentage has risen exponentially just since August 1. It's not being reported anymore. an_light

    The truth is breakthroughs are common, hospitalizations rates range from 30-40% vaccinated, just like the UK and Israel reported in July, who would'a thought!! The CDC has stated the number of breakthroughs are most likely much higher than recorded as MANY vaccinated will not get tested because symptoms are mild. They still spread the virus!

    The vaccine helps, NO DOUBT, it not "stopping" the spread nor will it ever. It is NO LONGER the pandemic of the unvaccinated since Delta arrived. Doubt some rebel anti-vaxer infected Colin Powell. All those vaccinated Texas Dem's fleeing Texas to Wash. DC and infecting the Whitehouse disproves that stupid narrow minded belief. 

    This virus can go from human to animal and back. We have to live with it, not going away, find treatments to limit the severity. 

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    So then in August our govt. and news media, almost one in the same IMO, had to admit breakthroughs were occurring. So, as an example from the Wall Street Journal, you would read these statements repeated on almost every news wire;

    --"Health departments said that breakthrough cases represented a tiny fraction of Covid-19 infections and resulted in very few hospitalizations or deaths."

    ---“Let’s be real, here: Breakthrough infections are sort of OK,” said Larry Corey, a virologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle. “You get infected and you have a cold, maybe an achy fever for 24 hours. But you don’t end up in the hospital, and you don’t end up with that 2.5% chance of dying once you are hospitalized.” --------It's OK!!!!! No, it's disappointing.

    ---"U.S. states counted at least 193,204 so-called breakthrough cases among vaccinated people between Jan. 1 and early August, according to data that health departments in 44 states and Washington, D.C., provided to the Journal. The figure represents 0.1% of the more than 136 million fully vaccinated people in those states and the capital." -------There's that Jan 1st again, bet that percentage has risen exponentially just since August 1. It's not being reported anymore. an_light

    The truth is breakthroughs are common, hospitalizations rates range from 30-40% vaccinated, just like the UK and Israel reported in July, who would'a thought!! The CDC has stated the number of breakthroughs are most likely much higher than recorded as MANY vaccinated will not get tested because symptoms are mild. They still spread the virus!

    The vaccine helps, NO DOUBT, it not "stopping" the spread nor will it ever. It is NO LONGER the pandemic of the unvaccinated since Delta arrived. Doubt some rebel anti-vaxer infected Colin Powell. All those vaccinated Texas Dem's fleeing Texas to Wash. DC and infecting the Whitehouse disproves that stupid narrow minded belief. 

    This virus can go from human to animal and back. We have to live with it, not going away, find treatments to limit the severity. 

    THAT's THE SCIENCE.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" . History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

    3rd, we all know you are the resident fact checker around these woods so I am dismayed at you telling us that there THERE ARE NO LONG TERM EFFECTS.  How exactly did you come to these factual conclusions???  Are you a time traveler?  Do you know or associate with any time travelers?  The entire sub forum would love to know how you KNOW there are no long term side effects when there are ZERO LONG TERM STUDIES on any of these vaccines?!?!  Please, please, please enlighten us on the truths of your fact checking an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" . History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

    3rd, we all know you are the resident fact checker around these woods so I am dismayed at you telling us that there THERE ARE NO LONG TERM EFFECTS.  How exactly did you come to these factual conclusions???  Are you a time traveler?  Do you know or associate with any time travelers?  The entire sub forum would love to know how you KNOW there are no long term side effects when there are ZERO LONG TERM STUDIES on any of these vaccines?!?!  Please, please, please enlighten us on the truths of your fact checking an_popcorn

     
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     also, we all need to know the outcome of the Broncos / Browns game for tomorrow night.... thanks in advance peace_5

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     also, we all need to know the outcome of the Broncos / Browns game for tomorrow night.... thanks in advance peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" . History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

     

    5 years for "clear data"- So people are justified if they have concerns for the vaccine and don't want it because there is no clear longer term data.

    So it's OK for hospitals to not correlate major side effects (some resulting in deaths) to the vaccine because technically if you have the vax less then a month "you're not fully vaccinated" so there is no recorded link between the vaccine and the side effects which means THERE IS NO FACTUAL DATA SUPPORTED.  Hospitals should document everything, no matter how long after someones taken the vaccine so the public can see the true numbers. They are hiding this info for a reason.

    Third- please explain why a child who felt sick, tested negative for covid was marked as having covid from the hospital?  Also, please explain why someone had complications shortly after receiving the vaccine mind you complications they've NEVER experienced and the hospital WILL NOT acknowledge that the vaccine is very much likely the cause?!  It's pretty clear YOU CAN NOT TRUST THE NUMBERS BEING REPORTED.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" . History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

     

    5 years for "clear data"- So people are justified if they have concerns for the vaccine and don't want it because there is no clear longer term data.

    So it's OK for hospitals to not correlate major side effects (some resulting in deaths) to the vaccine because technically if you have the vax less then a month "you're not fully vaccinated" so there is no recorded link between the vaccine and the side effects which means THERE IS NO FACTUAL DATA SUPPORTED.  Hospitals should document everything, no matter how long after someones taken the vaccine so the public can see the true numbers. They are hiding this info for a reason.

    Third- please explain why a child who felt sick, tested negative for covid was marked as having covid from the hospital?  Also, please explain why someone had complications shortly after receiving the vaccine mind you complications they've NEVER experienced and the hospital WILL NOT acknowledge that the vaccine is very much likely the cause?!  It's pretty clear YOU CAN NOT TRUST THE NUMBERS BEING REPORTED.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" . History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

    Problems galore with that reply...this is not a one and done shot in the arm, this is turning into an every six months scheme, so unless that changes it WILL take five years plus to sort it out...the side effects are not going to be discovered, documented, studied and published next week, this is on going and the scale to which people are taking this vac is enormous. 

    Why are there issues with younger kids getting zapped? Heart enlargement? Yeah I guess that only means that a certain subset MIGHT have issues extreme enough to stop the slanted government from forcing kids to take it, that to me means these therapies have side effects but the initiative is still being pushed forward. If you look on the fringes you see information coming out like the effectiveness wears off pretty steadily in short periods of time...that is not a good sign and is also assuming you trust the initial dosage impact data stats which I do not.

    There are billions of reasons to suppress side effect release, this is about protecting the initiative and making profits for the corps who were first to the start line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" . History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

    Problems galore with that reply...this is not a one and done shot in the arm, this is turning into an every six months scheme, so unless that changes it WILL take five years plus to sort it out...the side effects are not going to be discovered, documented, studied and published next week, this is on going and the scale to which people are taking this vac is enormous. 

    Why are there issues with younger kids getting zapped? Heart enlargement? Yeah I guess that only means that a certain subset MIGHT have issues extreme enough to stop the slanted government from forcing kids to take it, that to me means these therapies have side effects but the initiative is still being pushed forward. If you look on the fringes you see information coming out like the effectiveness wears off pretty steadily in short periods of time...that is not a good sign and is also assuming you trust the initial dosage impact data stats which I do not.

    There are billions of reasons to suppress side effect release, this is about protecting the initiative and making profits for the corps who were first to the start line.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" .

     

    #1  History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity. 

    #2  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now. 

    #3    Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries. 

    #4  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

     

    All four above points are both factual and perfectly logical.   Thanks Thirdperson.

    As much as I hate trump, at least as much as 55% of the country does, he wants credit for the trump-vaccines  AND HE ENDORSES THEM!! 

    FOX NEWS Sean Hannity endorses the trump-vaccines.

    FOX NEWS Neil Cavuto endorses the trump-vaccines.

    FOX NEWS Cris Wallace endorses the trump-vaccines.

    FOX NEWS Steve Doocy endorses the trump-vaccines.

    TRUMPER Sarah Huckabee Sanders endorses the trump-vaccines.

    TRUMPER Senator Lindsay Graham endorses the trump-vaccines.

    SEVERAL GOP governors endorse the trump-vaccines including TEXAS,  FLORIDA, and OHIO.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" .

     

    #1  History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity. 

    #2  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now. 

    #3    Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries. 

    #4  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.

     

    All four above points are both factual and perfectly logical.   Thanks Thirdperson.

    As much as I hate trump, at least as much as 55% of the country does, he wants credit for the trump-vaccines  AND HE ENDORSES THEM!! 

    FOX NEWS Sean Hannity endorses the trump-vaccines.

    FOX NEWS Neil Cavuto endorses the trump-vaccines.

    FOX NEWS Cris Wallace endorses the trump-vaccines.

    FOX NEWS Steve Doocy endorses the trump-vaccines.

    TRUMPER Sarah Huckabee Sanders endorses the trump-vaccines.

    TRUMPER Senator Lindsay Graham endorses the trump-vaccines.

    SEVERAL GOP governors endorse the trump-vaccines including TEXAS,  FLORIDA, and OHIO.

     

     
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    fubah,

    Can you keep the partisan crap out of here? There are both sides discussing the topic without bringing politicians into the discussion.

     

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    Can you keep the partisan crap out of here? There are both sides discussing the topic without bringing politicians into the discussion.

     

     
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    While you keep the crap out of here fubah.  Please,   please put your mask back on. Again. I don't want anybody to become infected by you. TY.

    Not to mention. All 6 names you mentioned either work at Fox News or did so in the past. They are controlled opposition. Non of them are allowed to speak the truth about the 'kill' shot. 

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    While you keep the crap out of here fubah.  Please,   please put your mask back on. Again. I don't want anybody to become infected by you. TY.

    Not to mention. All 6 names you mentioned either work at Fox News or did so in the past. They are controlled opposition. Non of them are allowed to speak the truth about the 'kill' shot. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    fubah, Can you keep the partisan crap out of here? There are both sides discussing the topic without bringing politicians into the discussion.

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh hahahahahaha  

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    fubah, Can you keep the partisan crap out of here? There are both sides discussing the topic without bringing politicians into the discussion.

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh hahahahahaha  

      What sub did you  think you wondered into WS !?!?  This is the funniest thing I think I've ever seen in this sub forum.  

     
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    I would bet there will be a massive class action lawsuit within ten years. 

    I wouldn’t want to be a corporation or small business that’s forcing employees to get vaccinated. 

    The government can use tax dollars to pay the lawsuit. 

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    I would bet there will be a massive class action lawsuit within ten years. 

    I wouldn’t want to be a corporation or small business that’s forcing employees to get vaccinated. 

    The government can use tax dollars to pay the lawsuit. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" .   #1  History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  #2  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  #3    Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  #4  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.   All four above points are both factual and perfectly logical.   

    1.  So now we have TWO time travelers....so fortunate to have people who can see the future 5, 10 and 20 years from now....Tell us please, where is the data I can see that tells me what effects, if any of course, these vaccines may have on a 16 year old prepubescent male?  Or a healthy 35 year old female?  How do you KNOW the future??

    2. "more data than any other vaccine in the world"  What about the past 50 years of data on the various vaccines developed by man?  Billions of people born over the past 50 years given vaccinations.  Literally TRILLIONS plus vaccine doses....so, with your completely factual and steady logic, explain how there is more data on ONE YEAR worth of Covid vaxx than any other vaccine in HISTORY???  

    3.  Don't care to reply. 

    4.  Statistically agree.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: It will take 5 yrs to get a clear view of the "data" .   #1  History of vaccines show side effects almost always occur in first 2 weeks or 2 months at the most.  Several reasons why there are no long term effects. Unlike drugs that accumulate in the body, covid vaccines are designed to quickly breakdown but body continues to build immunity.  #2  With over 2 billion covid vaccine doses administered worldwide, there is more safety data than other vaccines.  Given the huge number, rare side effects would have been detected by now.  #3    Also safety of covid vaccines are the most widely monitored in history by many different countries.  #4  Obviously, risks of vaccines are far less than risks of disease.  So illogical that some brainwashed people are more scared about vaccine instead of coronavirus.  They don't trust science and experts but would rather believe in unproven remedies and quacks.   All four above points are both factual and perfectly logical.   

    1.  So now we have TWO time travelers....so fortunate to have people who can see the future 5, 10 and 20 years from now....Tell us please, where is the data I can see that tells me what effects, if any of course, these vaccines may have on a 16 year old prepubescent male?  Or a healthy 35 year old female?  How do you KNOW the future??

    2. "more data than any other vaccine in the world"  What about the past 50 years of data on the various vaccines developed by man?  Billions of people born over the past 50 years given vaccinations.  Literally TRILLIONS plus vaccine doses....so, with your completely factual and steady logic, explain how there is more data on ONE YEAR worth of Covid vaxx than any other vaccine in HISTORY???  

    3.  Don't care to reply. 

    4.  Statistically agree.  

    FUPA an_roll_laugh

     
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    Side topic, I've always wondered why Fupa would chose a screen name labeled after a female body part confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: fubah, Can you keep the partisan crap out of here? There are both sides discussing the topic without bringing politicians into the discussion.  hahahahahaha     What sub did you  think you wondered into WS !?!?  This is the funniest thing I think I've ever seen in this sub forum.

    Ive been in this forum since we opened it up, this is a nice reminder to him and others that turning things partisan is what pollutes the forum. The topic is about the vacc not about Trump or the GOP. Fauci has been involved since Trump and now so there is no need to make it about GOP vs DNC. You guys need to try and keep debate topics on point and not stray towards political finger pointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: fubah, Can you keep the partisan crap out of here? There are both sides discussing the topic without bringing politicians into the discussion.  hahahahahaha     What sub did you  think you wondered into WS !?!?  This is the funniest thing I think I've ever seen in this sub forum.

    Ive been in this forum since we opened it up, this is a nice reminder to him and others that turning things partisan is what pollutes the forum. The topic is about the vacc not about Trump or the GOP. Fauci has been involved since Trump and now so there is no need to make it about GOP vs DNC. You guys need to try and keep debate topics on point and not stray towards political finger pointing.

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