Phils look like a fake favorite here. The books know how good backing hamels has been to bettors and so they made him a small favorite to keep the public believing in him, and made the juice so low that ppl would have a hard time staying away from them... Kazmir looked like he was coming back around last time. He and the rays get it done riding the game 7 momentum.
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Phils look like a fake favorite here. The books know how good backing hamels has been to bettors and so they made him a small favorite to keep the public believing in him, and made the juice so low that ppl would have a hard time staying away from them... Kazmir looked like he was coming back around last time. He and the rays get it done riding the game 7 momentum.
All you Tampa Bay backers must ask yourself a few questions before you lay out your money on game 1.
Does Tampa have a good enough bullpen to close out a close game against a Phillies lineup? I saw a very questionable pen in the Boston Series, hell they lost game 4 b/c they don't have a shutdown closer in their bullpen.
Your going to put your money against Kazmir who was not very smooth during his last performance. He could not place his slider, let alone throw it for a strike.
I am not sure, but I don't think the Rays have seen a left with such a good changeup this year that can also come inside with a fluid fastball.
I know if I can get Hamels at close to even money I know where my money is going even if they are playing in Tampa.
If the Phils get to the Tampa pen early it is going to get ugly.
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All you Tampa Bay backers must ask yourself a few questions before you lay out your money on game 1.
Does Tampa have a good enough bullpen to close out a close game against a Phillies lineup? I saw a very questionable pen in the Boston Series, hell they lost game 4 b/c they don't have a shutdown closer in their bullpen.
Your going to put your money against Kazmir who was not very smooth during his last performance. He could not place his slider, let alone throw it for a strike.
I am not sure, but I don't think the Rays have seen a left with such a good changeup this year that can also come inside with a fluid fastball.
I know if I can get Hamels at close to even money I know where my money is going even if they are playing in Tampa.
If the Phils get to the Tampa pen early it is going to get ugly.
Phillies bats may be sluggish with the long layover and they have never faced Kazmir as a team. It should take most of the lineup one or two AB's to get used to him.
Same with Hamels. With his talent, he should be able to keep the Rays bats at bay in their first few WS AB's ever.
UNDER 1st 5 and game
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Phillies bats may be sluggish with the long layover and they have never faced Kazmir as a team. It should take most of the lineup one or two AB's to get used to him.
Same with Hamels. With his talent, he should be able to keep the Rays bats at bay in their first few WS AB's ever.
As Hamels is by far the best starting pitcher on Philly rotation, this is a must game for Phillies to win series + Believe there is room for visiting ambush with Rays enjoying taste of first ever pennant .Letting big money ride on Phillies Game 1 with ample opportunity to get it back and more should they lose weds. night.
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As Hamels is by far the best starting pitcher on Philly rotation, this is a must game for Phillies to win series + Believe there is room for visiting ambush with Rays enjoying taste of first ever pennant .Letting big money ride on Phillies Game 1 with ample opportunity to get it back and more should they lose weds. night.
Wagering that there will be a 1st inning run and if that doesn't work, I will be doubling up through the third inning until one does score.
As far as a side is concerned, I may have to roll with the Phillies. It's high time that a National League team wins one of these things. May as well be frontrunners with their best pitcher on the bump
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Wagering that there will be a 1st inning run and if that doesn't work, I will be doubling up through the third inning until one does score.
As far as a side is concerned, I may have to roll with the Phillies. It's high time that a National League team wins one of these things. May as well be frontrunners with their best pitcher on the bump
Don't you think its time for the Rays to come back to reality and play like the inexperienced young team that we all have watched for the past few years. Just ask the five thousand fans that show up to watch their games, they will tell you they are young and inexperienced. Putting your money on a team with no experience in the post season and lost over one hundred games just two years ago is not a smart play.
The Phillies on the other hand are a better play in the series. They have more experience at winning more games and have a much better bullpen.
The Phillies in 6 games
And I like the over in games 2,3,4
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Don't you think its time for the Rays to come back to reality and play like the inexperienced young team that we all have watched for the past few years. Just ask the five thousand fans that show up to watch their games, they will tell you they are young and inexperienced. Putting your money on a team with no experience in the post season and lost over one hundred games just two years ago is not a smart play.
The Phillies on the other hand are a better play in the series. They have more experience at winning more games and have a much better bullpen.
2) PHILLIES IN GM 1 w/ HAMELS LISTED AS PITCHER AT -105
3) UNDER FIRST 5 INNINGS
yes, the phils bats might be asleep to start the game because of the week long layoff, but i'm also expecting the rays to be the same way. this is the big stage. both teams will have to settle their nerves and the edge will go to the pitchers early on. i can see both hamels and kazmir getting through the lineups one time without any runs on the board. these teams are not familiar with eachother and these batters don't face these guys. i've played the under first 5 innings in all of hamels starts in the postseason and it has worked out well for me. i don't see a reason to stop now.
i also see hamels lasting longer than kazmir. the quicker the phils get kazmir out of the game, the quicker they get to the bullpen, the quicker they gain the advantage. the rays bullpen is weak. yes, if they throw price, that can be huge, but other than that i like the way the phils matchup with the bullpen. and as a whole, the phils have a much better bullpen.
i can honestly see the phils taking 2 from the rays in tampa (with hamels and myers) and then have tampa stealing games 3 and 4 in philly (against moyer and blanton) making it a 3 game series if it's tied 2-2.
hamels would then win game 5 and the phils would have to steal one more in tampa to win it all.
all in all, i see the phils taking this in 7, and possibly 6. i can't see either team winning this thing in less than 6.
GL
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1) PHILLIES IN THE SERIES AT +125
2) PHILLIES IN GM 1 w/ HAMELS LISTED AS PITCHER AT -105
3) UNDER FIRST 5 INNINGS
yes, the phils bats might be asleep to start the game because of the week long layoff, but i'm also expecting the rays to be the same way. this is the big stage. both teams will have to settle their nerves and the edge will go to the pitchers early on. i can see both hamels and kazmir getting through the lineups one time without any runs on the board. these teams are not familiar with eachother and these batters don't face these guys. i've played the under first 5 innings in all of hamels starts in the postseason and it has worked out well for me. i don't see a reason to stop now.
i also see hamels lasting longer than kazmir. the quicker the phils get kazmir out of the game, the quicker they get to the bullpen, the quicker they gain the advantage. the rays bullpen is weak. yes, if they throw price, that can be huge, but other than that i like the way the phils matchup with the bullpen. and as a whole, the phils have a much better bullpen.
i can honestly see the phils taking 2 from the rays in tampa (with hamels and myers) and then have tampa stealing games 3 and 4 in philly (against moyer and blanton) making it a 3 game series if it's tied 2-2.
hamels would then win game 5 and the phils would have to steal one more in tampa to win it all.
all in all, i see the phils taking this in 7, and possibly 6. i can't see either team winning this thing in less than 6.
WhiteRabbit.....not bashing ya my man or knocking your post but isn't that exacrlty what the Rays have been doing in the post season..WINNING as an inexperienced team. BY saying the Rays will lose because they lost 100 games in the past is like saying the Patriots will win the super bowl because they went 16-0 last year. Just as the patriots are not the same team they were last year, neither are the RAYS..and Boston who are the defending champs with much more post season exp than the rays went down to the young team.
"THEY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE AT WINNING MORE GAMES"
Idk what you mean by that but that sounds like something john madden would say ..the rays won more games this year. How does this Phillies team have "more experience at winning more games"
Great Matchup here but I am liking Phils in game 1 and over
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WhiteRabbit.....not bashing ya my man or knocking your post but isn't that exacrlty what the Rays have been doing in the post season..WINNING as an inexperienced team. BY saying the Rays will lose because they lost 100 games in the past is like saying the Patriots will win the super bowl because they went 16-0 last year. Just as the patriots are not the same team they were last year, neither are the RAYS..and Boston who are the defending champs with much more post season exp than the rays went down to the young team.
"THEY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE AT WINNING MORE GAMES"
Idk what you mean by that but that sounds like something john madden would say ..the rays won more games this year. How does this Phillies team have "more experience at winning more games"
Great Matchup here but I am liking Phils in game 1 and over
It's high time that a National League team wins one of these things.
two years ago... st. louis... and before that, 2 years of AL winners (chi and bo sox) and one more NL winner (marlins). I'm following the momentum theory.... The team that plays the longest holds momentum. Plus beating boston was a lot more of an accomplishment than beating the dodgers.
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Quote Originally Posted by Watch:
It's high time that a National League team wins one of these things.
two years ago... st. louis... and before that, 2 years of AL winners (chi and bo sox) and one more NL winner (marlins). I'm following the momentum theory.... The team that plays the longest holds momentum. Plus beating boston was a lot more of an accomplishment than beating the dodgers.
IM BETTING $100 on philly in game one and the sies just because I want them too win IM a NCAA FOOTBALLER SO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BASEBALL BETTING ....BUT PHILLY FANS DESERVE IT AND I BELIEVE IN CARMA
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IM BETTING $100 on philly in game one and the sies just because I want them too win IM a NCAA FOOTBALLER SO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BASEBALL BETTING ....BUT PHILLY FANS DESERVE IT AND I BELIEVE IN CARMA
Hamels Shuts em down tonight. Phils RL +160. See you at the Game. GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!
Home Field Advantage will be taken down a notch by the overwhelming amount of Phillies fans that will be in attendence tonight, I'd say 40% of fans at the game will be wearing red, inclduing me. Don't belive me, just go to stubhub and see for yourself. Rays have fair weather fans, theres no doubt about that, tickets for their first world series game ever are going for less than $190/each. Thats a fuggin joke and so are the Rays chances of beating the PHillies tonight.
Phillies 6-2 then its off to the titty bar till 5 in the monring.
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Hamels Shuts em down tonight. Phils RL +160. See you at the Game. GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!
Home Field Advantage will be taken down a notch by the overwhelming amount of Phillies fans that will be in attendence tonight, I'd say 40% of fans at the game will be wearing red, inclduing me. Don't belive me, just go to stubhub and see for yourself. Rays have fair weather fans, theres no doubt about that, tickets for their first world series game ever are going for less than $190/each. Thats a fuggin joke and so are the Rays chances of beating the PHillies tonight.
Phillies 6-2 then its off to the titty bar till 5 in the monring.
two years ago... st. louis... and before that, 2 years of AL winners (chi and bo sox) and one more NL winner (marlins). I'm following the momentum theory.... The team that plays the longest holds momentum. Plus beating boston was a lot more of an accomplishment than beating the dodgers.
I'm with you on the momentum theory, Wang. Remember what happened to the Rockies when they had to sit for a while?
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Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:
two years ago... st. louis... and before that, 2 years of AL winners (chi and bo sox) and one more NL winner (marlins). I'm following the momentum theory.... The team that plays the longest holds momentum. Plus beating boston was a lot more of an accomplishment than beating the dodgers.
I'm with you on the momentum theory, Wang. Remember what happened to the Rockies when they had to sit for a while?
Phils look like a fake favorite here. The books know how good backing hamels has been to bettors and so they made him a small favorite to keep the public believing in him, and made the juice so low that ppl would have a hard time staying away from them... Kazmir looked like he was coming back around last time. He and the rays get it done riding the game 7 momentum.
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Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:
Phils look like a fake favorite here. The books know how good backing hamels has been to bettors and so they made him a small favorite to keep the public believing in him, and made the juice so low that ppl would have a hard time staying away from them... Kazmir looked like he was coming back around last time. He and the rays get it done riding the game 7 momentum.
Another World Series that noone will give a shit about.
WAAAAW another crying ass Yankoff backer. I love it! I could buy three R ays teams for one of those overpriced lossers
Anyway for people that care to see the biggest turnaround in sports history play in the world series then this is a great game. I am taking the Rays here. They are on a roll, at home, Philly has been siting around, etc. Also as Wang pointed out Phillys should not be favored here and still everyone is jumping on them. GL
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Quote Originally Posted by BDUBB:
Another World Series that noone will give a shit about.
WAAAAW another crying ass Yankoff backer. I love it! I could buy three R ays teams for one of those overpriced lossers
Anyway for people that care to see the biggest turnaround in sports history play in the world series then this is a great game. I am taking the Rays here. They are on a roll, at home, Philly has been siting around, etc. Also as Wang pointed out Phillys should not be favored here and still everyone is jumping on them. GL
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Remember what happened to the Rockies when they had to sit for a while?
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