What are you talking about? Why would I care what players did in college? This is the pros. I live in the present not the past and it's obvious which team (Pitt) is running better, which player (Mendenhall) is running better and which defense is stopping the run better right now. Just because you know the names Rice, McGahee, and McClain doesn't mean they form a better trio of running backs this season.
The Ravens haven't been able to rush the ball all year and just let the Browns run all over them for 173 yards last week. It's not like the Steelers haven't faced good running backs either. They held Turner to 42 yards and Chris Johnson to 34 yards. And why are you even bringing up McClain? The guy hasn't been used as a real running back in 2 years. He gets 2 carries a game. And McGahee is pretty much only used in short yardage/goal line situations.
Another stat or piece of information you wouldn't care about is that Mendenhall is actually healthy. Ray Rice didn't practice Wednesday and isn't going to be 100%. Against the Steelers D I would worry about that because the only way they're beating them is by throwing it. And the way Flacco's been throwing it this year I wouldn't be worried about that if I was Pittsburgh either.
It's obvious you like the Ravens in this game and that's fine. I just didn't and don't understand your arguments which is why I use stats to back up mine. It makes a little more sense when you can back up what you're saying with numbers
Jumping into the middle of arguments is fun. I also like Mendenhall. He was on my fantasy team last year and I would have loved to draft him again this year if he'd been available. I also like stats. Stats are fun. But it's important to remember that they are relative; especially early in the season. Here's a few about Mendenhall
36 - number of yards gained in last game against Ravens.
95 - number of yards gained the game before.
113 - number of yards he gained in the second half against TB after Steelers had a huge lead were clearly looking to run out the clock. He gained 143 the entire game.
69 - number of yards he gained against Ten.
50 - number of yards picked up in overtime for a TD on a busted defense by Atlanta. He gained 70 yards the first 4 quarters.
Yes I'm on Baltimore for this game. Both teams are going to try and control the ground game. Balt just happens to have more options in that respect. The key is which team can make a few clutch passes when needed. Batch looked ok last week, but he was facing a depleted TB secondary and got a circus catch by Wallace (also on my fantasy team this year and last). Flacco looked like shit against Cincy (my defense) but I beleive he'll make the plays that will determine the outcome of this game.
Baltimore's the dog. They don't have to blowout a very good Pitt defense to cover.
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What are you talking about? Why would I care what players did in college? This is the pros. I live in the present not the past and it's obvious which team (Pitt) is running better, which player (Mendenhall) is running better and which defense is stopping the run better right now. Just because you know the names Rice, McGahee, and McClain doesn't mean they form a better trio of running backs this season.
The Ravens haven't been able to rush the ball all year and just let the Browns run all over them for 173 yards last week. It's not like the Steelers haven't faced good running backs either. They held Turner to 42 yards and Chris Johnson to 34 yards. And why are you even bringing up McClain? The guy hasn't been used as a real running back in 2 years. He gets 2 carries a game. And McGahee is pretty much only used in short yardage/goal line situations.
Another stat or piece of information you wouldn't care about is that Mendenhall is actually healthy. Ray Rice didn't practice Wednesday and isn't going to be 100%. Against the Steelers D I would worry about that because the only way they're beating them is by throwing it. And the way Flacco's been throwing it this year I wouldn't be worried about that if I was Pittsburgh either.
It's obvious you like the Ravens in this game and that's fine. I just didn't and don't understand your arguments which is why I use stats to back up mine. It makes a little more sense when you can back up what you're saying with numbers
Jumping into the middle of arguments is fun. I also like Mendenhall. He was on my fantasy team last year and I would have loved to draft him again this year if he'd been available. I also like stats. Stats are fun. But it's important to remember that they are relative; especially early in the season. Here's a few about Mendenhall
36 - number of yards gained in last game against Ravens.
95 - number of yards gained the game before.
113 - number of yards he gained in the second half against TB after Steelers had a huge lead were clearly looking to run out the clock. He gained 143 the entire game.
69 - number of yards he gained against Ten.
50 - number of yards picked up in overtime for a TD on a busted defense by Atlanta. He gained 70 yards the first 4 quarters.
Yes I'm on Baltimore for this game. Both teams are going to try and control the ground game. Balt just happens to have more options in that respect. The key is which team can make a few clutch passes when needed. Batch looked ok last week, but he was facing a depleted TB secondary and got a circus catch by Wallace (also on my fantasy team this year and last). Flacco looked like shit against Cincy (my defense) but I beleive he'll make the plays that will determine the outcome of this game.
Baltimore's the dog. They don't have to blowout a very good Pitt defense to cover.
Where are you getting your info? How does Balt have a much better running attack? Pitt averages 150 ypg (good for 3rd in the NFL) while Balt averages 89 (23rd in the NFL). Mendenahll is also averaging 111 ypg (4th in the NFL) while Ray Rice had to leave last game and is questionable for this game with a sprained knee.
And you should check the turnover ratio for these teams as well. Pitt's currenlty tied for first at +6 while Balt is tied for last at -6. If I'm worried about a team giving the ball away it's Balt.
For the record... Rice's knee was a bruise. He's had a second opinion and has made it clear he'll be ready for tomorrow's game. I'm having trouble picking this game, but I want to make sure you're aware Rice will be in and if not at 100%, pretty close to it.
Good Luck.
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Where are you getting your info? How does Balt have a much better running attack? Pitt averages 150 ypg (good for 3rd in the NFL) while Balt averages 89 (23rd in the NFL). Mendenahll is also averaging 111 ypg (4th in the NFL) while Ray Rice had to leave last game and is questionable for this game with a sprained knee.
And you should check the turnover ratio for these teams as well. Pitt's currenlty tied for first at +6 while Balt is tied for last at -6. If I'm worried about a team giving the ball away it's Balt.
For the record... Rice's knee was a bruise. He's had a second opinion and has made it clear he'll be ready for tomorrow's game. I'm having trouble picking this game, but I want to make sure you're aware Rice will be in and if not at 100%, pretty close to it.
This is going be a difficult game to pick. The line started at minus 1 Pitt. It's already at minus 2.5 Pitt. Finally, Pitt is playing at home......I have to pick the home team.
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This is going be a difficult game to pick. The line started at minus 1 Pitt. It's already at minus 2.5 Pitt. Finally, Pitt is playing at home......I have to pick the home team.
Yeah... I've made my mind up. If I had to choose a side it would be Baltimore and the points. I'd always rather have points in a defensive match-up. Flacco hasn't looked as strong as he has in the past, this game is in Pitt, and it's suppose to rain all day tomorrow.
I never thought the Steelers would go 4-0 without their QB, but with their performances the last three weeks (a little bit of luck), I wouldn't bet against them.
Good luck to those who play.
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Yeah... I've made my mind up. If I had to choose a side it would be Baltimore and the points. I'd always rather have points in a defensive match-up. Flacco hasn't looked as strong as he has in the past, this game is in Pitt, and it's suppose to rain all day tomorrow.
I never thought the Steelers would go 4-0 without their QB, but with their performances the last three weeks (a little bit of luck), I wouldn't bet against them.
Two rugged defenses, to be sure, but both teams loaded with scoring threats as well. Looking for Mendenhall to pick up where Browns' Hillis left off LW and Batch, Ward, and Wallace looked damn good down in Tampa. Flacco loving addition of Boldin (already 20 recepts TY and 3 TDs LW).
Ravens/Steelers "over" the low series totals 6 of L8.
Baltimore/Pittsburgh OVER 34
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Two rugged defenses, to be sure, but both teams loaded with scoring threats as well. Looking for Mendenhall to pick up where Browns' Hillis left off LW and Batch, Ward, and Wallace looked damn good down in Tampa. Flacco loving addition of Boldin (already 20 recepts TY and 3 TDs LW).
Ravens/Steelers "over" the low series totals 6 of L8.
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