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#76
brady quinn gets his first NFL win tonight after a frustrating loss last weekend. Brown 24 Bills 14.... Clev ML baby +210
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Cleveland at Buffalo (11/17/2008)
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#84
Quote Originally Posted by icemantbi:
Going to take the over tonight. Right now, it's at 40. Both defences suck, and both offenses should put 40 up on the board. Doesn't look like there is going to be any snow at all tonight
I called and got 39.5. I think if I wait a little longer, it may keep going down. Come on public, bang that under!!!
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Posted:
#85
Is it me or does anyone else think this line is begging you to take the Browns. I know they give the home team a 3 point edge right off the bat but what do you think the line would be if they met on a neutral field. Both these teams are on a downfall as of late, Buffalo going 1-4 (SU & ATS) in their last 5 and Cleveland going 2-3 (3-2 ATS). Buffalo has a slight edge on defense but that is about the only edge in this game besides home field. Both running games are stuck in the mud. Brady Quinn will be getting his first start on the road, Quinn went 23-35 239 yards 2-TD's 0-INT's in his first start granted it was against a shitty defense but it's still the NFL. Edwards has thrown 3-TD's with 5-INT's in his last 5 games with 2 INT's in each of his last 2 games. Earlier in the week I liked the Browns (even took them in a 16-1 pool) but now I don't know, I'm leaning Buffalo. Even the total is hard to figure, Cleveland looked like they might have finally got their offense going a little and then they put in Brady Quinn, he put up 30 last week (on Denver) but NOBODY knows what he can do. Buffalo has scored more than 17 points 1 time in the last 5 games (23 against S.D.) Is this going to be another 8-0 game like last year or are the offenses going to get things going tonight???
The SMARTEST bet tonight would be to sit and enjoy a game for once with NO action on it.
GOOD LUCK TONIGHT
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Posted:
#86
there is no conspiracy in the NFL with the refs, the NFL does a great job with the refs and handling the games....in 13,000 NFL games approx., wouldnt there be a few more games like that one in pitt if something (dirty refs?) were to truly exist? both sides were bet in that game, san diego and pitt are two very popular teams with alot of money backing both... squash the conspiracies, leave it for the NBA and tennis assoc..... brownies plus 5-1/2.... bottom line, the players have to play, play to win, and the refs keep the game on the up and up... brownies plus 5-1/2
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Posted:
#89
Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:
I have finally realized no matter how much I look at game it really doesn't matter. The players don't have control of the outcome...the refs do...each week there are bad calls that go both ways...some effect the outcome and some don't but we are all just guessing and hoping to be on the opposite side of the bad calls. 
Browns +5.5
Under 41.5
I have finally realized no matter how much I look at game it really doesn't matter. The players don't have control of the outcome...the refs do...each week there are bad calls that go both ways...some effect the outcome and some don't but we are all just guessing and hoping to be on the opposite side of the bad calls. I hope I got it right tonight...a winner is always nice. 
REFS 
FPRONK!
FPRONK!I was thinking after that Pitt game and SD/Den game I will start handicapping the refs rather than the teams. Just try to figure out who is on the pay and who is not. I think that's why they gave that game to the Boys' (w/ public money) with that BS touchback call on the punt. Well, at least I was right on side of Vegas for that game. But I am glad I didn't watch the Pitt game, I would have broken the TV.
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#92
Leave the weather out of the equation. This isn't Tampa and Miami playing, both these teams are used to the weather in the Northeast. It is not going to be downpouring, or dumping wet snow so it should not be a factor to either team.
I am leaning towards the Browns & Over
Neither team has a defense to write home about. The Browns have put up 27 on Baltimore, 23 on Jax, and 35 on the G-Men, all of whom rank much higher than Buffalo's D. On the flip side tho, the Bills haven't scored more than 17 points in a game but once in their last five.
Buffalo needs the game after their season has slowly gone sour, but needing and getting are two different things. The Browns have been playing good ball offensively and Brady Quinn is much more mature and talented than people give him credit for. If the Browns can beat the defending champs, and put up 27 points on Baltimore they should be able to show up a failing Buffalo team. Game can go either way, but my call is for a SU Cleveland win, and another Monday OVER.
Cleveland moneyline
OVER BIG
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Posted:
#95
Dog and the over........seems to hit on MNF more than not over the last 6-8 weeks. Buffalo will be ready to play and haven't showed much offense in the last 4 games.......Brady is very cool, calm and collected and will make the right choices in this game. I got it going to the end of the game with the outcome in the balance........Therefore, can't take the fav.
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Look for changes in Monday nite football schedule next year. Maybe they ought to move it to another nite
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#97
Quote Originally Posted by Bringiton_01:
Leave the weather out of the equation. This isn't Tampa and Miami playing, both these teams are used to the weather in the Northeast. It is not going to be downpouring, or dumping wet snow so it should not be a factor to either team.
I am leaning towards the Browns & Over
Neither team has a defense to write home about. The Browns have put up 27 on Baltimore, 23 on Jax, and 35 on the G-Men, all of whom rank much higher than Buffalo's D. On the flip side tho, the Bills haven't scored more than 17 points in a game but once in their last five.
Buffalo needs the game after their season has slowly gone sour, but needing and getting are two different things. The Browns have been playing good ball offensively and Brady Quinn is much more mature and talented than people give him credit for. If the Browns can beat the defending champs, and put up 27 points on Baltimore they should be able to show up a failing Buffalo team. Game can go either way, but my call is for a SU Cleveland win, and another Monday OVER.
Cleveland moneyline
OVER BIG
You are so on point and I like that theory. I flow with you on that pick also. Both team has no defense and road dog always win and it seems to be over 10-1. GOOD CHOICE MY MAN!!! I've made up my mind and will pick Buff-5 & Under 40..........SIKE!!!!
Thanks for the info dude.
Clev.+5 & Over 40
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Posted:
#98
Quote Originally Posted by Bringiton_01:
Leave the weather out of the equation. This isn't Tampa and Miami playing, both these teams are used to the weather in the Northeast. It is not going to be downpouring, or dumping wet snow so it should not be a factor to either team.
I am leaning towards the Browns & Over
Neither team has a defense to write home about. The Browns have put up 27 on Baltimore, 23 on Jax, and 35 on the G-Men, all of whom rank much higher than Buffalo's D. On the flip side tho, the Bills haven't scored more than 17 points in a game but once in their last five.
Buffalo needs the game after their season has slowly gone sour, but needing and getting are two different things. The Browns have been playing good ball offensively and Brady Quinn is much more mature and talented than people give him credit for. If the Browns can beat the defending champs, and put up 27 points on Baltimore they should be able to show up a failing Buffalo team. Game can go either way, but my call is for a SU Cleveland win, and another Monday OVER.
Cleveland moneyline
OVER BIG
True but Quinn did not play in any of those games. Buffalo's O has been anemic recently. So has Cleveland's D which would = OVER. The weather is somewhat suspect tonight. If the total dips below 40 it might be worth a risk going over the total. It is Monady night and the over is 8-1-1 in most markets.
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Posted:
#99
Quote Originally Posted by OffDaHook:
Is it me or does anyone else think this line is begging you to take the Browns. I know they give the home team a 3 point edge right off the bat but what do you think the line would be if they met on a neutral field. Both these teams are on a downfall as of late, Buffalo going 1-4 (SU & ATS) in their last 5 and Cleveland going 2-3 (3-2 ATS). Buffalo has a slight edge on defense but that is about the only edge in this game besides home field. Both running games are stuck in the mud. Brady Quinn will be getting his first start on the road, Quinn went 23-35 239 yards 2-TD's 0-INT's in his first start granted it was against a shitty defense but it's still the NFL. Edwards has thrown 3-TD's with 5-INT's in his last 5 games with 2 INT's in each of his last 2 games. Earlier in the week I liked the Browns (even took them in a 16-1 pool) but now I don't know, I'm leaning Buffalo. Even the total is hard to figure, Cleveland looked like they might have finally got their offense going a little and then they put in Brady Quinn, he put up 30 last week (on Denver) but NOBODY knows what he can do. Buffalo has scored more than 17 points 1 time in the last 5 games (23 against S.D.) Is this going to be another 8-0 game like last year or are the offenses going to get things going tonight???
The SMARTEST bet tonight would be to sit and enjoy a game for once with NO action on it.
GOOD LUCK TONIGHT
Thanks...Good Luck with that..
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