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    Dallas at Arizona (10/12/2008)

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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 10:19 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

    INTERESTING STAT:  

    The Cowboys have won 22 of their last 27 meetings with the Cardinals, including three straight. Romo threw for 308 yards and two touchdowns - including one to Owens - in Dallas' 27-10 victory Nov. 12, 2006.

     

     

    uH, i don't know about you, but I would be hesitant to bet against a pro bowl level Cowboy team that is fighting mad due to hatas and losing to the Redskins. 

     

    Sorry for my fourth post in a row here but this one is about football. 

    I agree that Dallas has a chip on their shoulder all the sudden and is probably going to be looking for a blowout, and they may very well do that.

    As for the trends that people post - I've never understood why a game that happened in 1997 has to do with Sundays game.  I just don't get why people handicap based on long term trends...

    Initial thoughts are for Dallas on this but i'd be weary that if Warner has some time in the pocket (which he may very well have) that he can throw for over 300...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

    INTERESTING STAT:  

    The Cowboys have won 22 of their last 27 meetings with the Cardinals, including three straight. Romo threw for 308 yards and two touchdowns - including one to Owens - in Dallas' 27-10 victory Nov. 12, 2006.

     

     

    uH, i don't know about you, but I would be hesitant to bet against a pro bowl level Cowboy team that is fighting mad due to hatas and losing to the Redskins. 

     

    Sorry for my fourth post in a row here but this one is about football. 

    I agree that Dallas has a chip on their shoulder all the sudden and is probably going to be looking for a blowout, and they may very well do that.

    As for the trends that people post - I've never understood why a game that happened in 1997 has to do with Sundays game.  I just don't get why people handicap based on long term trends...

    Initial thoughts are for Dallas on this but i'd be weary that if Warner has some time in the pocket (which he may very well have) that he can throw for over 300...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 10:39 PM ET #77

    Over!!!   
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    Over!!!   
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2008 - 11:30 PM ET #78

    bigdady-All of ur picks lost this week, that is nuts, almost as bad as that shepherd guy
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    bigdady-All of ur picks lost this week, that is nuts, almost as bad as that shepherd guy
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:12 AM ET #79

    Arizona Cardinals +4.5
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    Arizona Cardinals +4.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:50 AM ET #80

    This is a trap game if ive ever seen one the play is zona ML or nothing.  The line is extremely fishy with all the consensus on dallas wouldnt u think the line should continue climbing? No its gone the other way from 5 to 4.5 meaning vegas isant afraid of the action.  Take the cards i smell a romo meltdown....

    Cards - 31 Dallas - 20
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    This is a trap game if ive ever seen one the play is zona ML or nothing.  The line is extremely fishy with all the consensus on dallas wouldnt u think the line should continue climbing? No its gone the other way from 5 to 4.5 meaning vegas isant afraid of the action.  Take the cards i smell a romo meltdown....

    Cards - 31 Dallas - 20
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:57 AM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatest1234:

    bigdady-All of ur picks lost this week, that is nuts, almost as bad as that shepherd guy
    Listen jackass, big daddy has forgot more about winning than you will know. STFU and find another website
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatest1234:

    bigdady-All of ur picks lost this week, that is nuts, almost as bad as that shepherd guy
    Listen jackass, big daddy has forgot more about winning than you will know. STFU and find another website
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 1:30 AM ET #82

    AR +6 and over 50... easy $$$
     
    Fitz will burn the weak cowboy corners lol
     
    Adam Jones is the most over rated corner ever he is too much hype but he aint even good.
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    AR +6 and over 50... easy $$$
     
    Fitz will burn the weak cowboy corners lol
     
    Adam Jones is the most over rated corner ever he is too much hype but he aint even good.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 1:49 AM ET #83

     my final straight plays for sunday...
     
    1:00 st louis at WASHINGTON - 13
    1:00 baltimore at INDY - 3 (bought .5)
    1:00 CINCINNATI + 10 (bought .5) at ny jets
    1:00 CAROLINA + 1 at tampa bay
    1:00 oakland at NEW ORLEANS - 7
    4:00 DALLAS - 4 (bought .5) at arizona
    4:00 philly at san fran OVER 42
     
    and my sunday 6.5-pt teaser...
    NEW ORLEANS - .5
    CAROLINA + 7.5
     
    good luck cappers
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     my final straight plays for sunday...
     
    1:00 st louis at WASHINGTON - 13
    1:00 baltimore at INDY - 3 (bought .5)
    1:00 CINCINNATI + 10 (bought .5) at ny jets
    1:00 CAROLINA + 1 at tampa bay
    1:00 oakland at NEW ORLEANS - 7
    4:00 DALLAS - 4 (bought .5) at arizona
    4:00 philly at san fran OVER 42
     
    and my sunday 6.5-pt teaser...
    NEW ORLEANS - .5
    CAROLINA + 7.5
     
    good luck cappers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:03 AM ET #84

    Recent Trends to Consider:
    • Cardinals are 4-1 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
    • Cardinals are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games on grass.
    • Cardinals are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 home games.
    • Cowboys are 1-4 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
    • Cowboys are 2-8 ATS in their last 10 games overall.
    • Cowboys are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games following a ATS loss.
    • Cowboys are 1-7 ATS in their last 8 vs. NFC.

    Dallas Cowboys vs Arizona Cardinals NFL Week 6 Picks
    When: Sun, Oct 12, 2008 4:15 PM ET
    Line: Justbet.com
    Pick: Cardinals +5
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    Recent Trends to Consider:
    • Cardinals are 4-1 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
    • Cardinals are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games on grass.
    • Cardinals are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 home games.
    • Cowboys are 1-4 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
    • Cowboys are 2-8 ATS in their last 10 games overall.
    • Cowboys are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games following a ATS loss.
    • Cowboys are 1-7 ATS in their last 8 vs. NFC.

    Dallas Cowboys vs Arizona Cardinals NFL Week 6 Picks
    When: Sun, Oct 12, 2008 4:15 PM ET
    Line: Justbet.com
    Pick: Cardinals +5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:07 AM ET #85

    the Cardinals are 8-2 at home since Ken Whisenhunt took over as head coach at the start of last season and have outscored their opponents in Glendale by a 72-17 margin this year, thanks to a 31-10 win over the Dolphins in Week 2 and last weekend's 41-17 pounding of Buffalo.
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    the Cardinals are 8-2 at home since Ken Whisenhunt took over as head coach at the start of last season and have outscored their opponents in Glendale by a 72-17 margin this year, thanks to a 31-10 win over the Dolphins in Week 2 and last weekend's 41-17 pounding of Buffalo.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 3:36 AM ET #86

    Betting Trends
     
    Dallas -5 (83%)
     
    and the line fell to -4.5.
     
     
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    Betting Trends
     
    Dallas -5 (83%)
     
    and the line fell to -4.5.
     
     
    GLA
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 4:00 AM ET #87

    Arizona +4.5
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 4:42 AM ET #88

    I like AZ (funny line movement), ATL (should be a close game), Hou (Mia over rated now), and SD (payback is a bitch)
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    I like AZ (funny line movement), ATL (should be a close game), Hou (Mia over rated now), and SD (payback is a bitch)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 5:46 AM ET #89

    Enuff said already
     
    Arizona +4
     
    Under 50
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    Enuff said already
     
    Arizona +4
     
    Under 50
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 9:26 AM ET #90

    Cowboys -4.5 (2 units) vs. Cardinals
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    Cowboys -4.5 (2 units) vs. Cardinals
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 10:12 AM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

    this will be a hard game for Dallas...no doubt.  I didn't know Arizona is ranked # 5 in overall offense (thanks to Warner) and is ranked in the top 15 in Defense.
     
     
    Keys for dallas:  run run run, I said before the Dallas/ Cincy game that Dallas would run Barber and Felix jones for about 35 carries combined.  They ran for 32 combined.  I think Dallas gets it that they have to run the ball at people and take advantage of Jones. I'm wondering if Dallas tries a direct snap to Barber ala Dolphins, but maybe that's too radical. ( yeah, I know I called Dallas to cover in the Cincy game)  Barber pounds teams between the tackles and Felix Jones does damage on halfback tosses. Barber and Jones truly are "thunder and lightning".  It's like having Adrian Peterson and Reggie Bush on the same team, but on a lil smaller scale. 
     
    I've seen about 90% + of every Dallas game since 1989, and while that may be alot of hours wasted it helped me learn about dallas inside out.  Jason Garret's playcalling may look predictable but it's really not when you consider T.O. was called for an end around that did pretty good.  Arizona is clearly a much better team with Kurt Warner at the helm.  Matt Leinart may end up getting cut by the end of the season at this rate.  at the End of the day Dallas is still Dallas ( a top 5 team no matter how you look at it) and Arizona is still...well Arizona.  It is true, this is like a home game for Dallas. It's known that many dallas fans travel to Arizona and basicaly outnumber them.  INTERSTING STAT:  Tony Romo has averaged at least 1 int ech game for the past 8 games and has a winning record during that stretch. Just imagine if Romo plays mistake free football. and Romo is still ranked in the top 5 in qb rating.  Kurt Warner is ranked higher.
     
    Look for the Dallas D to shut down Edgerin James.  I'm looking for Warner to torch the Dallas secondary for another 300+ yard peformance, but I'm also looking for 150+ yards from Marion Barber and Felix Jones.  I'm looking for Dallas to win even if it takes the last 2 minutes to do so.
     
     
    Overall, do yourself a favor and bet the over. 
     
     
    I'm thinking more in line with
     
     

    Dallas 30
     
    Arizona 27
     
     
    Oklahomer, feel free to bash if you want.  I'm used to childish ignorance from some (you know who you are) on these posts. 

    Do the exact opposite of this retard, check out his posts yesterday on The TX?OU game, a true embarresment.....the funny thing is in his earlier post today, he says "Dallas -5 might be a gift", then he predicts Dal 30 - Az 27  

    I think he's posting from his mother's basement.

    Arizona covers or gets the outright win here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

    this will be a hard game for Dallas...no doubt.  I didn't know Arizona is ranked # 5 in overall offense (thanks to Warner) and is ranked in the top 15 in Defense.
     
     
    Keys for dallas:  run run run, I said before the Dallas/ Cincy game that Dallas would run Barber and Felix jones for about 35 carries combined.  They ran for 32 combined.  I think Dallas gets it that they have to run the ball at people and take advantage of Jones. I'm wondering if Dallas tries a direct snap to Barber ala Dolphins, but maybe that's too radical. ( yeah, I know I called Dallas to cover in the Cincy game)  Barber pounds teams between the tackles and Felix Jones does damage on halfback tosses. Barber and Jones truly are "thunder and lightning".  It's like having Adrian Peterson and Reggie Bush on the same team, but on a lil smaller scale. 
     
    I've seen about 90% + of every Dallas game since 1989, and while that may be alot of hours wasted it helped me learn about dallas inside out.  Jason Garret's playcalling may look predictable but it's really not when you consider T.O. was called for an end around that did pretty good.  Arizona is clearly a much better team with Kurt Warner at the helm.  Matt Leinart may end up getting cut by the end of the season at this rate.  at the End of the day Dallas is still Dallas ( a top 5 team no matter how you look at it) and Arizona is still...well Arizona.  It is true, this is like a home game for Dallas. It's known that many dallas fans travel to Arizona and basicaly outnumber them.  INTERSTING STAT:  Tony Romo has averaged at least 1 int ech game for the past 8 games and has a winning record during that stretch. Just imagine if Romo plays mistake free football. and Romo is still ranked in the top 5 in qb rating.  Kurt Warner is ranked higher.
     
    Look for the Dallas D to shut down Edgerin James.  I'm looking for Warner to torch the Dallas secondary for another 300+ yard peformance, but I'm also looking for 150+ yards from Marion Barber and Felix Jones.  I'm looking for Dallas to win even if it takes the last 2 minutes to do so.
     
     
    Overall, do yourself a favor and bet the over. 
     
     
    I'm thinking more in line with
     
     

    Dallas 30
     
    Arizona 27
     
     
    Oklahomer, feel free to bash if you want.  I'm used to childish ignorance from some (you know who you are) on these posts. 

    Do the exact opposite of this retard, check out his posts yesterday on The TX?OU game, a true embarresment.....the funny thing is in his earlier post today, he says "Dallas -5 might be a gift", then he predicts Dal 30 - Az 27  

    I think he's posting from his mother's basement.

    Arizona covers or gets the outright win here.

     
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    dddevin... apologize for attacking you personally as there is no need for that on covers, another cowboy fan pissed me off this morning....I do disagree with you statements though...best of luck buddy...

     

     

    Thanks dude I appreciate it. I was kinda joking about the other stuff. (in regards to my use of the English language I graduated in English Education in the spring of 1999, but I've worked in finance and housing ever since)  In regards to Dallas I watch Dallas pretty frequently.  And true Dallas fans know that Dallas is prone to depend on the running game.  I know the passing game is premium, but the game against Cinn was pretty pivatol.  I know football as well if not better than anyone on here.  We all are "experts" in our own minds when you think about it. It's just some on here don't know about certain teams like Dallas.  The x-factor for Dallas has always been Romo to Whitten straight down the middel.  Look how many times that happens today.  Another x-factor is Felix Jones. Think about it. We really don't know how good Felix Jones can be.  Just imagine if Dallas really tried to unload their Barber/Jones combo on the cards.  Dallas's main weakness is kinda obvious know. It's their secondary.  Dallas's D really isn't that bad.  It's kinda the trend now for some to bash the Dallas D, but there is a reason Dallas has only lost one game.

     

    Arizona may very well cover, but I wouldn't discount a Boy's team that hasn't reached it's potential.......yet. 

     

    Play the over/under if you want to be safe....I would lean towards over

    and if Dallas wins (whch most sports experts think they will, and rightly so) wouldn't it be by at least 5 or more? 

     

    We will know by the end of the day. 

     

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    dddevin... apologize for attacking you personally as there is no need for that on covers, another cowboy fan pissed me off this morning....I do disagree with you statements though...best of luck buddy...

     

     

    Thanks dude I appreciate it. I was kinda joking about the other stuff. (in regards to my use of the English language I graduated in English Education in the spring of 1999, but I've worked in finance and housing ever since)  In regards to Dallas I watch Dallas pretty frequently.  And true Dallas fans know that Dallas is prone to depend on the running game.  I know the passing game is premium, but the game against Cinn was pretty pivatol.  I know football as well if not better than anyone on here.  We all are "experts" in our own minds when you think about it. It's just some on here don't know about certain teams like Dallas.  The x-factor for Dallas has always been Romo to Whitten straight down the middel.  Look how many times that happens today.  Another x-factor is Felix Jones. Think about it. We really don't know how good Felix Jones can be.  Just imagine if Dallas really tried to unload their Barber/Jones combo on the cards.  Dallas's main weakness is kinda obvious know. It's their secondary.  Dallas's D really isn't that bad.  It's kinda the trend now for some to bash the Dallas D, but there is a reason Dallas has only lost one game.

     

    Arizona may very well cover, but I wouldn't discount a Boy's team that hasn't reached it's potential.......yet. 

     

    Play the over/under if you want to be safe....I would lean towards over

    and if Dallas wins (whch most sports experts think they will, and rightly so) wouldn't it be by at least 5 or more? 

     

    We will know by the end of the day. 

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 10:59 AM ET #93

    Dallas and the over
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 11:00 AM ET #94

    Dallas

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:09 PM ET #95

    "I know football as well if not better than anyone on here.  "

     

    - Dude you are out of your mind.  I think next week I am going to play on every single game against your picks just to see how i do - after all, I've got some extra cash lying around from that Texas game saturday. 

     

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    - Dude you are out of your mind.  I think next week I am going to play on every single game against your picks just to see how i do - after all, I've got some extra cash lying around from that Texas game saturday. 

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:26 PM ET #96

    I like Arizona + 4.5
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    also like Ari ML
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2008 - 12:48 PM ET #98

    Small Play on Arizona today.  Mostly due to Dallas's lack of pass rush and overrated secondary which i think might get eaten alive today. 
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